Origins of the vz.82: A Western Pistol for Communist Czechoslovakia

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The vz.82 and its cousin the CZ 83 are pistols that originated when the Czech state export company during the Cold War began looking for arms it could export to bring in hard currency. The current service pistol, the vz.52, was, shall we say, not widely desirable and its 7.62x25mm cartridge was not widely used outside the Warsaw Pact anyway. The earlier vz.50 and vz.70 pistols were also not really suitable, as they were old and rather clunky designs. Something new was needed that could appeal to customers worldwide.
So, the export firm approaches the state arms factory - CZ - about designing something new. The Ministry of Defense got wind of the project in 1977, and joined in - they also wanted a new pistol - specifically something in 9x18mm Makarov. In 1978 the Czech Ministry of the Interior also joins in, looking for a new pistol for the police. To meet all of these requests, CZ developed a remarkably modern and effective compact pistol which would eventually be made in three different calibers - .32 ACP, .380 ACP, and 9x18mm Makarov.
The first prototypes were completed in 1979, and full scale production began in 1982. Today we are looking at specifically a very early prototype vz.82 in 9x18mm (with a decocking mechanism that would later be dropped from the design) and the standard production vz.82.
The 9x18mm pistols were designated vz.82, and they used polygonal rifling because they were initially developed for a unique Czech 9x18mm cartridge which used a sintered iron bullet. That would cause undue wear on traditional rifling, and so polygonal rifling was chosen instead. The cartridge was eventually scrapped, but the rifling choice remained. The guns in .32 and .380 were designated the CZ 83, and used traditional rifling. Large numbers of both have come into the US in recent years as surplus.
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@pavelnecas3018 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for looking at this pistol, it means a lot to me, my great-grandfather designed it - Augustin Necas. He was an amazing engineer! My dad was telling me stories how Augustin was testing the gun in his garage when dad was a kid. Great video as always!

@aceman1126 Жыл бұрын

Damn your great grandfather seems like a total badass and I love my vz82. I hope he left you all some cool relics.

@StanleyKubrick-vi6sr Жыл бұрын

My dad is Santa clause

@pewpew9193 8 ай бұрын

That's cool. I hope you have a few of them to enjoy your Great-Grandfather's legacy.

@K__a__M__I Жыл бұрын

CZ employee: "Hey neat! Ian's back!" CZ employee2: "What are you talking about? He never left!!!"

@Pyrochemik007 Жыл бұрын

CZ employee 3: Hi, I am Ian.

@MrTrilbe Жыл бұрын

@@Pyrochemik007 CZ employee 4: I am Ianicus!

@aaa72317 Жыл бұрын

@@MrTrilbe NO! I AM IANICUS!!

@zz3690 Жыл бұрын

CZ employee 5: I drank a bottle of Becherovka, don't mind me...

@mattilaakso6834 Жыл бұрын

CZ employees (after #5's Becherovka): Všichni jsme Ian! Ve are all Ian! Magdump!

@pmgn8444 Жыл бұрын

Bought a Vz82 for my Cold War collection. I was so impressed that I bought a 2nd for my personal use as a second concealed carry pistol. It is a great little pistol!

@Pyrochemik007 Жыл бұрын

So, now you need to obtain the original czech ammo, it means 82% more power :D

@PavelKahun Жыл бұрын

@@Pyrochemik007 sellier & bellot : Yes, I agree

@thedaemonator3244 Жыл бұрын

I love mine. Only problem I ever had with it was a worn out mag release that I replaced shortly after acquiring it.

@jonallen761 3 күн бұрын

@thedaemonator3244 @pmgn8444 I also have been collecting warsaw pact/coldwar collection mainly because of this channel, my masters courses in Soviet economics and my long interest in mechanical items/cold war history. I've been replacing alot of springs.

@chasebarber6154 Жыл бұрын

I owned a CZ82 for a few years. It was an extremely well made pistol, though I never could get very good groups out of it. The coolest thing about it, imo, was that it was surprisingly easy to bump-fire in 2-6 round bursts. Discovered that on accident, then fine-tuned my technique until I could do 3-4 round bursts reliably and on-demand. Trips to the range were quite fun because people would see me bump-firing, ask if it was a machine pistol, express doubt at my semi-auto claims, then be completely unable to replicate the bursts when given the chance to try with a couple of full magazines. Had me in stitches the entire time watching them try to locate the non-existent selector switch.

@MrRugercat45 Жыл бұрын

I bought one of those years ago but I never knew you were able to bump fire it. Regret selling it but had to pay bills. How in the heck did you bump fire it?

@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 Жыл бұрын

@@MrRugercat45 this is what I'm wondering. I assume 2 hands, one holding the gun and a finger from the other through the trigger guard?

@chasebarber6154 Жыл бұрын

@@MrRugercat45 I don't know if it was possible on other examples, as I only ever saw the one I had. That said, you simply had to hold the pistol in a VERY slightly-loose, but still standard two-handed grip and maintain just the right tension/position with your trigger finger right as it fired. Any overtravel or the wrong amount of tension and it wouldn't work. From what I could tell, the recoil would push the trigger just far enough away from the finger to reset, then the forward momentum from the slide closing would tip it forward against the finger, operating the trigger again. I was young and couldn't afford a camera that would record at a high-enough framerate to be able to verify this, but that's the best way to describe what I felt happening through my hands. Accuracy was atrocious, but the giggle factor was through the roof.

@chasebarber6154 Жыл бұрын

@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 Definitely not the technique I used. My reply to MrRugercat should explain it reasonably well, though I will say it's been over ten years since the last time I did it and my memory may be somewhat inaccurate as a result.

@1lovesoni Жыл бұрын

My old polish p64, basically a 9mmMak PPK, would fire 2 shot burst in double action mode. Probably just because any trigger spring that gave a DA pull under 16lb also gave a very light SA pull, plus the short reset.

@triggerfingerstudios Жыл бұрын

I LOVE my Vz82 and still carry it from time to time, though it's a little heavy. Definitely the best 9x18 pistol

@WardenWolf Жыл бұрын

Very fine little pistol. I love the look and feel of the PA-63, though. That two-tone color with the polished lower is just sexy.

@ralphwatten2426 Жыл бұрын

Naw, the East German P64 is the best Makarov pistol. I like my Vz82 but the Ernst Thaelmann P64 is better finished and better trigger pull.

@kylebradley3 Жыл бұрын

It's got a fantastic double action trigger

@triggerfingerstudios Жыл бұрын

@@kylebradley3 Single action is nice, but the DA is actually really great too! Best DA trigger on any gun i've ever owned.

@andrewfidel2220 Жыл бұрын

Is the roll pin attaching the barrel just in front of the chamber a standard feature?

@JunkyardBashSteve Жыл бұрын

The 82 was the first gun I owned, sold it about a year ago. My favorite story with that pistol was paying less than $200 for 1,000 rounds in Jan of 2020, riiiight before ammo prices skyrocketed.

@jma3586 Жыл бұрын

I own a CZ82 which I purchased from the surplus market. Mine came complete with the original CZ military holster. It’s one of my most cherished collectibles. Interestingly if you compare the Bersa Thunder 380 Plus combat(which I also own), you’ll find it’s almost a direct clone.

@Tom_SHTF Жыл бұрын

I was assigned this pistol when I was in the military. I never got used to her, plus we had glitches glitches where she shot bursts. Structurally very complex, in this version it is also intended for firing ammunition that was made from steel filings. I know that many people will not allow it (and the CZ 83), but the older I get, the more I believe that the best Czech pistol is the Austrian Glock. I will just add that in the army it replaced the CZ pistol vz. 52.

@georgelstuart Жыл бұрын

So fun to follow along with my own CZ82. I also like mine quite a bit and consider it to be a high quality carry pistol, if a bit heavy compared to modern plastic guns.

@helmsscotta Жыл бұрын

The better to pistol whip them with.

@JohnDoe-pv2iu Жыл бұрын

I'm OK with Glocks in 9mm, but I'll take the weight of a steel gun with no complaints. I don't buy electronics with a non-replaceable, rechargeable battery because I don't like the idea of something that have a finite lifespan. The plastic Glocks in .40 S&W has a finite life of a little over a 100,000 rounds before the frames break. I know that most people will never shoot that much (and the .40 S&W cartridge is junk) but I don't like the idea of something having a 'fixed' lifespan. Kinda reminds me of American cars in the 1970s. They would basically last through the 5 years of payments! Ya'll Take Care, John

@AneurysmHooks Жыл бұрын

I carry my P.38 gladly. Nimble and accurate, I've never needed more than 9 rounds. Military sidearms existed for a reason.

@immikeurnot Жыл бұрын

@@JohnDoe-pv2iu Do they? Because according to a lot of smiths, frame cracking is less of an issue in polymer framed pistols. Don't like it? Talk to Rowland, AKA the guy who came up with the .460 Rowland.

@JohnDoe-pv2iu Жыл бұрын

@@immikeurnot There's a Nuclear material Plant near to where I live. When I was a COP, I had a couple of friends who went to work with their security services. They, like we did at the time, used Glock model 22s in .40. They trained all the time and they maintained a round count on the pistols. A little over 100,000 rounds caused the problem of cracking. Glock agreed to replace the frames when they got to a certain number. So Bravo to Glock for standing by their products. The .40 was a Stop Gap fix. It gave a little more stopping power than the 9mm and a higher capacity than a .45. The downside of it was the Sharp muzzle flip that prevented keeping the weapon on target for 'controlled pairs'. Once better stopping cartridge designs were developed, everyone abandoned it for that reason. The Gold Dot 9mm hollow points have the stopping power with less flip. The. 45 GAP adopted by the State of Georgia (and other States) has a recoil 'push' instead of a flip. Qualifying scores went up across the board but especially with female and smaller statue officers. Now the FBI has even recommended 9mm for all LE and abandoning of the. 40... It was made a little too hot, it was loaded to the level of a slightly lighter 10 mm... Ya'll Take Care, John

@ilocosmetro Жыл бұрын

Hey! Late in the day special upload!

@c3wichman Жыл бұрын

I built one from parts kit, and I love it. I found you can use the extractor as a tactile loaded chamber indicator. would like to get a threaded barrel for it though

@keithweiss7899 Жыл бұрын

@@erroneous6947 it will take carbide tools. That barrel is extremely hard. I got a bulged barrel from bad Fiocchi ammo and couldn’t take the slide off because of that. Had to cut it from the inside with carbide mototool. I’ve never seen a barrel that hard!

@utterbraindamage250 Жыл бұрын

Do you know where you got the parts kit?

@Ostenjager Жыл бұрын

I love my CZ 83 in .380 ACP. I’ve carried mine as an EDC for a time. It’s basically a 2nd generation Makarov.

@keithweiss7899 Жыл бұрын

My VZ-82 had a problem once, and the barrel bulged. Problem was that you cannot take the slide off if the barrel inside is bulged! I had to take a carbide bit and cut the barrel from inside the muzzle end and remove that piece so I could get the slide off and access the roll pin that holds the barrel in. I replaced the barrel and it’s fine again. The Italian ammo was the culprit. I found another round in the box that had 2 bullets loaded, base to base in the cartridge! The manufacturer sent me a new box of ammo. Was that sabotage?

@johndeere1951a Жыл бұрын

I recently sold my 83 .380acp which had a beautiful deep plum color finish, in like new condition. Sold very quickly on consignment at my local shop. Very nice pistol, as all CZ's are 🇨🇿 👍🇺🇲✌️

@pb68slab18 Жыл бұрын

I too love my -82! Bought it when the first hit the C&R market. It's become my permanent truck gun. Fortunately, I bought a dozen genuine mags at the same time. When I see the prices they bring today, I wish I bought a few more of each. Wide-spur hammers allow for reasonably secure hammer-lowering if you pinch the hammers wings between the thumb and fore-finger.

@Logovanni Жыл бұрын

They had the perfect ambidextrous mag release in 1982 and then they screwed it up on the P-10C so bad that they got rid of it. I literally was so baffled by this that I emailed them asking about it a few years ago. They have not responded.

@spd579 Жыл бұрын

I have an 82 for a few years. Taught my youngest daughter how to shoot it. When 9x18 dried up I sold it. Wish I had the 83 in .32acp or .380acp. Plus, mags were hard to find. Still, great quality!

@aljole683 Жыл бұрын

My 82 is one of my favorite pistols. CZ grips fit my hands like they’re custom made for me, and the large grip relative to the slide and barrel make the gun easy to control. Love this gun, thanks for the extra info on the S&B ammo and polygonal rifling!

@imadequate3376 Жыл бұрын

I just want to express as a CZ customer and fan how happy I am that CZ opened its doors and collection for filming. Thank you guys!

@VeraTR909 Жыл бұрын

Very clever safety of the dissasembly process, probably prevented at a handfull of accidents over the years.

@jasonanderson2403 Жыл бұрын

I got a cz 83 from a lgs and bought a 9mm makarov barrel from cz USA it's a little snappy but cool. Its been cera coated gray and has night sights and has the lanyard ring mainspring housing.

Жыл бұрын

My late brother had one of these (Vz83) was a nice, light and reliable gun.

@jamyers1971 Жыл бұрын

I bought a CZ83 at the Giessen (W. Germany) Rod & Gun Club back in '86. Still have it, still love it!

@Saltpork305 Жыл бұрын

As someone with a vz70 & 82, this was a great video and it really is CZ modernizing the small duty pistol. I had no idea S&B made their own 9x18 standard.

@mkshffr4936 Жыл бұрын

Someone needs to do a direct comparison between the 70 and 82/83. Both fascinating shooters.

@bwhog Жыл бұрын

I have each of the four pistols mentioned but I don't have an 83 in 32. The 50 and 70 are utilitarian, as stated. They also have _some_ engineering issues but if you do a visual inspection of these areas from time to time and correct anything you see, the pistols are fine. I like the 82 and 83. I think they're very well made pistols. A touch heavy, perhaps, but they are real troopers. The 83 is probably the first time I've actually run into polygonal rifling. Seeing a barrel that looked basically smooth was quite a surprise! I haven't really done accuracy tests on them but these are additions to my collection I was very glad to get. Great to see some of the early history discussed!

@mastercat381 Жыл бұрын

The Vz82 was the first gun I ever bought, so it's cool to finally see it on the channel and know a bit more about its history! One interesting thing I've noticed is that it seems like all the CZ 83s (for export market) that I've seen have a blued finish, whereas every Vz82 (Czech domestic market) I've seen has this horrible, flaky black coating that I have never once seen intact. Even the one in CZ's collection seems to have a bit of chipping, but nothing compared to most of what's on the surplus market in the US. Aside from that, it's a great gun; smooth, ergonomic controls and nice big sights. Definitely the nicest handgun in 9x18.

@EvilWiffles Жыл бұрын

It's the same finish you'd see on CZ 75's, I believe. Yeah, I prefer the blued finish.

@MeangreenJolene Жыл бұрын

CZ 83 is a great little gun. Love the safety that won’t engage with the hammer down. That’s a great touch

@johnschofield9496 Жыл бұрын

I have one in 9 Mak., made in 1990. It even has the original holster that looks more like a case for King Kong's handcuffs !! GREAT, accurate pistol with a fabulous trigger !! Thanks, as always !

@TheGearhead222 Жыл бұрын

Although it's crude by today's standards, the CZ-52 pistol in 7.62 Tok was cutting edge for the time,as it can handle any of the hot open bolt sub gun Tok rounds that were available back then. Glad that I bought one when I did.-John in Texas

@vitis65 Жыл бұрын

I got one through Classic Firearms a few years ago. Yes those holsters are impressive!

@tongravity5668 Жыл бұрын

CZ82 was a very complicated pistol with too many parts,which leads to a lot of problems. It took over a decade to solve at least worst few flaws and many pistols was retrofitted with upgraded parts during active service. CZ50/70 has decocker and firing pin block - while CZ82/83 has not.This caused several accidents when pistol was dropped and police units just received order to wear the pistol with empty chamber only.

@AtkinTheory Жыл бұрын

I carry an 82 daily. Tack driver because of the weight. Only failure I've had was with repro mags. Ian, you forgot to mention the firing pin protector block! I carry mine hammer down safety off, One in the pipe. Damn double action is so long it's not going off in my holster

@peewee102100 Жыл бұрын

That's how I carried mine.

@mattfleming86 Жыл бұрын

Are you aware that if dropped on the hammer, the slide can traverse backwards and contact the stationary hammer? In rare cases it can do so with enough energy to set off the round.

@AtkinTheory Жыл бұрын

@@mattfleming86 good thing I carry in a custom shoulder holster. I can see it happening under extremely rare circumstances but honestly negateble, considering the safety is sketchy at best. Rather trust the block than a cocked hammer and hair safety

@immikeurnot Жыл бұрын

@@mattfleming86 It's got a half-cock notch, something that was figured out three or four hundred years ago. The only scary part is as you lower it to half-cock, if your thumb slips the pistol will fire. Once it's in half-cock, you're fine.

@MrRufusjax Жыл бұрын

I love my 82. Seems like I can hit better with it than nearly all my other semiauto pistols.

@aksuperhero Жыл бұрын

I’ve got both the 82 and 83. My 82 cost $299 with 2 mag’s. The 83 was $599. Both are great shooters. My 82 was my carry gun for 3 years

@zz3690 Жыл бұрын

As a European, I'll never understand why you Americans keep insisting on those weird prices like 299/599 instead of 300/600. I would feel like someone is trying to make me look like an idiot if they offered me something priced like that.

@EdwardJoshu4 Жыл бұрын

@@zz3690 it is what it is bratan...

@kylebradley3 Жыл бұрын

@@zz3690 99 looks like two grinning faces, 00 looks like surprised eyes, like holy shit this is expensive.

@easongoldman1011 Жыл бұрын

@@zz3690 That's not a European/American thing, some other places do that too, it's an actual marketing technique

@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 Жыл бұрын

@@zz3690 it's often used in stores for smaller items so that the cashier has to open the cash register so there's a record of it. To stop them possibly pocketing the money from an even number sale. With higher priced items I suppose it plays on the subconscious idea "oh, $299 is less than 300, I'm getting a good deal" even when logically it's not enough to matter.

@sdgardner1954 Жыл бұрын

I have a couple of these (Vz82)s gave one to my daughter for her house gun, She liked it, and it has very good sights and trigger for a pocket pistol, better than a Makorov.

@reaperthemad8731 Жыл бұрын

OOOOOOOH YEAH! Love these little guns. Super accurate. Made nice cheap carry guns too before prices went up and the more recent wave of affordable carry guns hit the market.

@richardjames1812 Жыл бұрын

I have two of these. One has modern custom wooden grips that I bought on eBay. They are great pistols that AIM was selling for $200 in 2008, with their holster and extra magazine. The only small issue is that the front sight luminescent paint has flaked off. That could be easily fixed. i don't use them for concealed carry, just range practice, so not necessary.

@sinisatrlin840 Жыл бұрын

Never heard of any problems, hiccups or teething problems with any CZ gun. CZ guns seams to be born perfect. Well done CZ, keep up the good work. Greetings from Croatia.

@mungo7136 Жыл бұрын

Well, than maybe you should take medical exam of your hearing 😁 There were quite a lot of issues with older pistols ( CZ 50/70/82), they had lot of problems when pushing (and probably even using bribery) their compact CZ75 as police pistol, their assault rifle was also terrible failure with lot of dirty work behind. Smaller police units trying to obtain i.e. Glock were purposely attacked by collaborating media and so on. Special forces in Afghanistan that bought their own Glocks as CZ82 was failing in combat were forced (ordered) to drop them and get back CZ82s! Slovak police when rearming was somehow forced to buy CZ75 not just Glocks. Company responsible for selling (and some production) for CZ was run by former minister that has bad reputation when it comes to some "backyard transaction".

@sinisatrlin840 Жыл бұрын

@@mungo7136 Well, maybe my ears are not good, but your ayes are probably not much better:) If that is all alleged corruption at CZ than you have 1% of Colt induced corruption, and maybe 0,0001% of L. Martin. Where arms go, corruption follows. France have choosen great new assault rifle and by pure coincidence powerful Frenchmen has majority stake in German company. I assume that you have not been in military, non standard issue guns (Glock included) are big no no. Court martial. Dishonurable discharge. You have backup gun only in paramilitarys, regulars have it only in Hollywood productions. "this is my rifle, there are many ones like this one, but this one is mine" word to word, literally it is like that. My point is; Bren works, VZ58 works, CZ75 works and it is one of the best guns of 70s, Škorpion, well it is Škorpion. Hunters around me have many CZ rifles, and there are none for sale. That sayes it all. By affection it is called; Moja ČeZa

@bungoboy5718 Жыл бұрын

Hopefully soon we'll get a development video on the Polish P-83 Wanad Pistol. I'd love to hear about the design and why they went with stamped steel frames instead of typical milled ones.

@beargillium2369 Жыл бұрын

My guess is cheaper

@rhaynesify Жыл бұрын

It was a cost reduction method. The P64 was a very high quality gun fit and finish wise. The P83 was pretty crude.

@bungoboy5718 Жыл бұрын

@@rhaynesify That's the thing though, the frame stamping is super complicated and weird and it looks like it was almost double stamped or something. If it was a cost reduction measure, it certainly was an annoying one to manufacture lol

@rhaynesify Жыл бұрын

@@bungoboy5718 it’s complicated to initially setup and create the tooling. However, afterwards it’s able to be ramped up with a dramatically lower cost per unit and with less skilled labor, time, and materials.

@tarmaque Жыл бұрын

The Wanad is not considerably different in purpose and size from the vz.82 or any of the other smaller blowback pistols. By all accounts it's a decent and reliable medium small pistol you can find for between $300 and $400ish. However you can get a Bersa Thunder in .380 for between $200 and $300 which is a smaller, lighter, and arguably better pistol, in a cartridge that's more common. If you're a collector then you want what you want, but I don't think this is the best choice for a CC pistol.

@darkoflight4938 Жыл бұрын

Cool and beautiful old school guns!!!! So interesting to see the design features here. The VZ 70 3:51 has design ques from the Walther PP series and the 82 has a resemblance to a Makarov. That was the shit back then and that´s not so long ago.

@ADHDWOOHOO Жыл бұрын

Glad to see my favorite pistol getting some attention! I've had my CZ82/vz82 for 13 years now. Bought it as surplus from a crate of them for $120. After a few thousand rounds from me and doubtless many thousands more in Czechoslovakia it still runs like a dream, zero malfunctions. Even as an owner of several other Makarovs, I think this is the best pistol that was ever chambered in 9x18. Great video, Ian!

@CeltKnight Жыл бұрын

I bought a Vz82 some time ago and carried it as an off-duty piece (along with several others in rotatin, LOL -- but it was one of the main ones). I love my Beretta 84 and figure it as among one of the most comfortable pistols I to hold. BUT for me, the Vx82 is even more comfortable, shoots very, very well, hits ... well as hard as 9x18mm can (i.e. hard enough) and mine feeds any JHP I've ever tried in it. Ditto for its cousin, my Polish Radom P64. I kind of had/have a 9x18 fetish, LOL.

@wadewilson8303 Жыл бұрын

Great timing Ian, I just bought a VZ 82. It's a cool little gun, I really like the sights on it.

@ShootAUT Жыл бұрын

Interesting detail about the ammo. I didn't know that. Now I wonder what the difference regarding penetration is between the sintered iron (typically light, hard, but relatively brittle) and the lead (heavy and soft) bullet. I'd love a vz. 82 in my collection. Ironically, they're quite hard to come by in Austria. 😐

@eozcompany9856 Жыл бұрын

I think that it was done as another of those typical “let's make fun of soviets” things. That is because if you fire more than about 100 rounds of the original vz. 82 ammo out of a standard Makarov you will destroy the bore. In other words, a nightmare of logistics in case of a war.

@ShootAUT Жыл бұрын

@@eozcompany9856 Yes, I bet that was part of their motivations, too. XD

@1972glm Жыл бұрын

My friend, a collector and owner of many firearms, swears by these. Sometimes a Glock 20, sometimes a 1911, but very often a CZ82 is the one in his waistband.

@UlookinMe Жыл бұрын

Please do one on the crazy early history of the design and designers of the Vz.75!

@AshleyPomeroy Жыл бұрын

There's a whole bunch of well-known pistols that he hasn't covered yet, which is a shame because who else is going to do it?

@TheGearhead222 Жыл бұрын

@@AshleyPomeroy Yah. Just about anything CZ makes is top notch. They're the FN of CZ-John in Texas

@DaveTex2375 Жыл бұрын

@@AshleyPomeroy Because they aren't forgotten.

@Jesses001 Жыл бұрын

I think I have a few of these in a box in the back of one of the safes. In fact I think most collectors in the US have a few of these someplace, haha. It is a lot like the Mosin Nagant. Every collector has a few and half the time we have no idea what trade they came in on.

@hooktriggertrail Жыл бұрын

I have an 83 and it's easily one of my favorite pistols. So accurate

@PhoenixFyre Жыл бұрын

I have one of these, mine has the polymer grips and it's been refinished, but it's a great shooter firearm.

@justicier10-7 Жыл бұрын

Used to own a CZ.83, had one of the final batches of the new ones before production ended. It was a great pistol, good carry gun though large for its caliber and capacity. The only down-side with it was it needed to be meticulously cleaned in order to prevent stoppages. Due to it being blowback operated, you get to fully appreciate how dirty the .380 ammo burns. You'd only get so many shots at the range before it started jamming and needed to be taken down for cleaning. Despite its quirks it really is a great pistol.

@bumpercoach Жыл бұрын

in order for the hammer to strike the firing pin (as w/ most revolvers) you have to HOLD the trigger all the way back... if you hold the hammer while releasing the trigger the then released hammer wont go past half cock

@csorgb05 Жыл бұрын

One of the best pistols I own. CZ makes awesome products. I used to have a CZ52, but traded it for a CZ 75.

@olddirtbiker5088 Жыл бұрын

Haven't shot my 82 in a while but as I recall, it had a nice trigger, even in double action.

@faceless2302 Жыл бұрын

It's very smooth before a very sharp trigger break, you could operate these reliably even while very excited from adrenaline or etc.

@propdoctor21564 Жыл бұрын

Another excellent video as always... I have had a CZ 82 for many years and have always thought it was a fine firearm.

@terencepaul7475 Жыл бұрын

oh man this is bringing me some feels. My Father passed away in 2018, he had some guns in his possession which he passed on to us family members. One of which is a CZ83 that he calls the "Señorita" because its smaller than his other guns. I haven't given it much thought until now and apparently its now a collector's item. It still has the original case it came in with and other stuff and its definitely gonna need some cleaning. I might try shooting it when I get the chance, I'll update here if it happens.

@faceless2302 Жыл бұрын

Never know what family heirlooms are going to go for one of these days. 83's are on the rise and are probably only going to increase in value as time goes on.

@rootbeerpoptart Жыл бұрын

Sintered iron bullets is bizarre and I want more info

@michaelrains64295 Жыл бұрын

Appreciate the history lesson. Some nice details in there that I didn’t know. I enjoy my 83 in .32acp.

@michaelrains64295 Жыл бұрын

FWIW, I too would love a CZ75 episode.

@matthewdylla6090 Жыл бұрын

If remade with a functional decocker and in something more relevant and available I'd buy one. I love the simplicity of take down even with the safety red flags.

@kafs1822 Жыл бұрын

I shot one of these at my old pistol club and achieved one of my highest scores, I still don't get how I scored so well the sights are dead basic and the trigger wasn't terrible but not like a target pistol, overall was very impressed

@johnmcclain3887 Жыл бұрын

Had to go in my room and get mine out of the drawer. It's really a top quality pistol, one of my favorite. Something about Czech firearms!

@DSlyde Жыл бұрын

I still don't get how polygonal rifling helped increase barrel life in guns like this but decreased barrel life of the Lee-Metford.

@immikeurnot Жыл бұрын

The sharp edges of typical button rifled barrels would NOT play well with the very abrasive sintered iron bullets. The sharp angles on the rifling would be worn out very quickly.

@tomnekuda3818 Жыл бұрын

Good upload......I always enjoy your programs. I learn something every time I watch.

@vibeslide Жыл бұрын

Now this might sound a bit crazy but i remember having a plastic toy gun in the 80s that looked exactly like the prototype with the wooden grip. I never really liked it much as a kid because the handle was to large and it also looked weird to me because of the small slide in relation to the rest of it. I always liked my toy 1911 much more, better looks and ergonomics. Damn, this video really brought back a lot of memories.

@MrSkeltal268 Жыл бұрын

I had an air soft pistol named vz something. I remember the weird shape and designation. Always thought it was just a made up gun… so cool!

@jesuriah Жыл бұрын

I have an 83 I carry from time to time. Great little gun.

@JF-xq6fr Жыл бұрын

Love mine, Made in 1985 and has a solid pin on the frame. Shoots very , very well with handloaded Hornady 95 grain XTP bullets, and .365" 95 grain cast bullets driven to 1050-1100 fps. The chrome plated polygonal barrel handle both extremely well, and no fouling at all for the cast. Function for both is perfect, and I do suggest if you acquire one to buy the Wolff spring kit. Love that it is C&R which I believe Ian had a part in by writing to the ATF and presenting his case. Wonderful all steel pistol.

@lavida57 Жыл бұрын

You have made a very nice job for yourself while educating all of us. Win win!

@AllAboutSurvival Жыл бұрын

I love vz82!! Thank you for sharing your knowledge once again, Ian. You and your team are great!

@witchywoman165 3 ай бұрын

I just bought one of these on my 03 license, had been wanting one for years and its so much more superior to an old school Makarov. I love the fact that it is single action carry like a 1911 (not a fan of decockers) and the larger cap mag as well as the double action pull in case of a misfire or a hard primer which is common in warsaw pact ammo. Very inexpensive and good pistols.

@xmeda Жыл бұрын

Heh.. my favourite pistol.. finally! With functional de-cocker and made out of stainless steel it would be exceptional.. but what we can do. Even the standard one is still very good. Some CZ-83 in 9x18Mak also have polygonal barrel. And some have rifled.

@douglaslarue4264 Жыл бұрын

You need to look into a S&W 3913 in 9mm.

@colindegrow1475 Жыл бұрын

Friday afternoon Forgotten Weapons. Really needed this after work. Thanks

@markyoung2981 Жыл бұрын

Very interesting presentation, thank you for your time posting this. I have been able to shoot a vz on several occasions, very nice pistol.

@special_kitty7195 Жыл бұрын

Damn Ian always popping off these great videos. Best inda bidness

@davidinsvaz7883 Жыл бұрын

Excellent firearm. Have it in 32, 380 and 8x18. Looking for the 22 model...someday.

@jacksona4919 Жыл бұрын

This is the only pistol I’ve ever used in a defensive setting. Say what you will about it, this little gun saved my life

@DL-ij7tf Жыл бұрын

Is it crass to ask for details?

@RadiantFeline Жыл бұрын

In the end, thats practically all that matters in a defensive shooting.

@TrumpIsRetarded Жыл бұрын

uh huh sure bud

@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 Жыл бұрын

@@TrumpIsRetarded what, you think nobody's used a gun for self defense? It happens more often than you hear about because in those cases a shot isn't fired.

@jacksona4919 Жыл бұрын

@@DL-ij7tf yeah, I was washing dishes before I headed back home for thanksgiving break ( I was still in college at the time). And a neighbor I didn’t know came to my back door and spit a massive loogie over my back porch. For context I’d never interacted with this guy before and we lived several units apart. I lived with one other guy and neither of us partied or made noise late. I had my pistol on my because I was completely packed and about to hit the road once I finished up. So I headed over to his unit to see what was up. I calmly asked what was the problem and if we had made him upset . Without saying a word he charged out of his room and started throttling me with both hands around my throat. He was much heavier and about my high ( I’m 6 ft ~ 170). He tried to push me over on my back as he kept choking me. So I pulled out my pistol and as soon as he saw me draw he ran off into the woods behind where I lived. When the cops showed up all of my neighbors saw the altercation and backed me up. He ended up catching an assault charge and getting evicted . Thankfully I didn’t have to harm him or draw any undue attention to myself. To be honest looking back I could have handled it better. But I was relatively untrained back then and I made it out ok. So even though I have better guns now, I still love my surplus cz. It’s the only gun that’s actually protected me . TLDR: a skitzo tried to choke me and my CZ convinced him to stop doing that

@justanothergunnerd8128 Жыл бұрын

Wow - the different rifling in the 82 vs. the 83 is a neat story - love it.

@wildcardbitchesyeehaw8320 Жыл бұрын

When I first saw the title of the video I was like "wait wasn't CZ 75 even more western pistol like decade before this one" but then i realized oh this one was actually adopted by the Czechoslovakian military while 75 was only adopted after the two countries separated

@jiribatysta87 9 ай бұрын

We were making some cool stuff, but the all the quality products were for export only. We couldn’t even buy zinc coated nails and screws (rust resistant) and had to buy them on the black market from factory workers who stole them. Communist govt. loved and needed hard western currency, which is pretty ironic for a communist government. Atleast on paper. All the party members were crooks who joined for their own benefit, the higher up, the more corrupted and rich they were.

@Krow884 Жыл бұрын

I have the vz82, love it! Accurate, easy to shoot, but the Makarov ammo is loud.

@nobodyyyyy556 Жыл бұрын

as much as he appropriately trashes the VZ 70 I would never get rid of mine. I miss regularly carrying it. I had a midnight cerakote done on it to kinda clean it up. the pinkie extension on some mags makes it perfect for my hand.

@seanbaker9796 Жыл бұрын

Great video! Thank you. I really want to see a video on the origins of the Cz vz50 and vz70.

@csorgb05 Жыл бұрын

If you have a CZ82 or 83... DO NOT take it completely apart. Normal field stripping is safe, but if you take out the trigger parts you may not be able to get it fully back together. Most gunsmiths wont even try to do it. CZ, if you contact them, say they wont do it.

@EvilWiffles Жыл бұрын

I learned that the hard way when I took my CZ 83 apart for cleaning. It took me four hours of fiddling with the spring leg and the sear. By far the hardest pistol to reassemble that I've come across.

@melodymakermark Жыл бұрын

“By far the hardest pistol to reassemble that I've come across.” You’ve obviously never dealt with the Ruger Marks 1 through 3. 🤣 Jk, you prob have, and they’re not bad once you get a knack for aligning that little tang.

@rhaynesify Жыл бұрын

It’s difficult, but it’s not as difficult as you’re making it out to be. I’ve my 82 and 83 apart a to fix spring issues.

@egglisboingo335 Жыл бұрын

Still have it in a sandwhich bag for another day, even when it's put back together all lined up shooting shakes the ejector pin loose which then of course makes everything loose tension and bind up, and don't get me started on that dumb spring that sits on the roll pin for the slide release, it fell out while shooting and I narrowly noticed it on the ground after the slide release wasn't working. Very nice to shoot when it worked though, definitely a fun piece

@melodymakermark Жыл бұрын

@RH 9.3, yeah, it’s not bad after a bit of practice. It just popped into mind when yall were talking difficulty. I’ve never fully disassembled my CZ83, so thanks for the heads up.

@davidkanengieter Жыл бұрын

Great video. Vz82 is my favorite combloc pistol.

@Cobalt-60 Жыл бұрын

I own both a Vz.82 (and P-64) in 9x18mm partly because there are very few surplus pistols that were available with modern features (like being ambidextrous or at least left-hand friendly) and being a C&R eligible firearm. Maybe a little heavy for concealed-carry, but I consider this to be a perfect truck-gun. I carried it in 3 different belt holsters -- the standard Czech Army flap-over holster; a Zili Praha leather thumb-break police holster (the most comfortable); and a polymer & leather Akah German Border Guard P5 holster (the most secure if engaged in vigorous activity or climbing), but most of the time it is in the glovebox (plus an extra mag in a leather single mag pouch) being available "as necessary."

@leandrodelgiudice Жыл бұрын

The best videos in You tube about firearms!! thank you from Argentina!!

@jonallen761 3 күн бұрын

I took both my 82 and 83 to a gunsmith recommended to me about a week ago, asking him to replace all the springs. I asked him how the pistol barrels looked. He used a bore scope and looked into the 83- "plenty of life with this one" He looks in the 82 a moment later..pause. "this one is....done" Took me awhile to convince him it was Polygonal rifling .

@jamespenson8912 Жыл бұрын

Great information, thank you! Very well presented.

@snook1249 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely bloody brilliant. Class content!

@krystofpavlicek4297 Жыл бұрын

I work in czech republic customs administration and we had this gun two years ago still in active service. It is really nice gun but i am glad that we moved into 21st century and now we use glocks.

@bigslice47 Жыл бұрын

I still carry my CZ82 occasionally. Fantastic gun despite not being quite modern or relevant.

@g54b95 Жыл бұрын

Great video, Ian. I am proud to own a Vz.24, Vz.52, Vz.70, CZ 75 (Cold War Edition...I was a SGT in the Army (MI) during that time, so had to pick that up) and a Vz.82. An amazing country with a great tradition of small arms. Also, fantastic beer and insanely hot women.

@walcrow7319 Жыл бұрын

I have 2 of them. They are great concealed carry guns, especially with the Hornady ammo. Complete sear cage disassembly is a bear due to the size compared to the CZ P07, 09, 75, etc. Thanks for the history of these small, reliable little gems.

@tristanthefiendishlombax5752 27 күн бұрын

I came here to learn about my new pistol. It was very informative as always, bought it 2 hours ago now

@kylemckenna4165 Жыл бұрын

This was the 1st gun I ever bought. It's surprisingly easy to find 9mm Mak. Glad to finally see a video on it!

@nunyabidniz2868 Жыл бұрын

Wanted to get one of these while they were still cheap, but the PRK mag-ban was still in effect even after the AWB sunset in 2004, so no joy for me. Looking forward to life beyond the Granola Curtain in a few more years when I retire and can have nice things again!

@99Racker 7 ай бұрын

Rock solid, reliable, and accurate pistol. The one difficulty is reassembling it. It seems you need 3.5 thumbs --- but 4 is too many to put it together. Great carry gun for summer.

@DL-ij7tf Жыл бұрын

Definitely heavy and have a pretty tall footprint but they're nicely rounded and the thin barrel doesn't take up much room. I actually love the feature set, with a hammer, ambi safety and mag release. I wish the CZ-75 matched the controls (aka ambi mag release). You have more options than on a lot of gun designs. They do recoil fairy sharp I think, snappier than most 9mm pistols since they'll have proper pressure relief systems. My 83 has been very reliable and accurate and I dig the Cold War feel. Cool to know that there were actually quite a few decent conceal carry options going back through the decades that more or less stack up with modern standards.

@TMPAugusta Жыл бұрын

I've got a Vz 82 on the way from Atlantic Firearms. I already own a Radom P64 and Bulgarian Arsenal Pistole Makarov, which are both shooters chambered in 9Mak. I also have a Vz50 with a 1970 proof stamp in 7.65. My Turkish CZ75 clone is also a great shooter. I'm looking forward to taking the Vz82 to the range when it arrives. The Czechs always bucked mother CCCP.

@Swat_Dennis Жыл бұрын

That wooden grip on it looks really nice! I always like these types of pistol with wood on it. Am I the only one who gets a sort of P226 feelings from it?

@johnnyappleseed6415 Жыл бұрын

Is Soviet Czechoslovakia, comrade, you will be satisfied with Bakelite and really expensive ammo... :))

@petercollingwood522 Жыл бұрын

Interesting. I look forward to a video on the 83 as I carried one for some time before emigrating from South Africa. Was unaware of the reasons behind the devolpment of them. Very good carry pistols.

@robinj.9329 5 ай бұрын

I've always been a big fan of classic, all steel handguns. And of CZ guns especially. My first purchase of a handgun was a CZ75b. The only change I made was to solid walnut grips and several extra magazines! Still a very accurate and sweet shooting gun.

@jamesalexander7540 Жыл бұрын

I had one of those in .380 ACP and it was a delight to shoot.

@cmdrcriton Жыл бұрын

The prototype looks so much nicer than the production run. The pistol is heavy but still nice.

@The_Hi_Life Жыл бұрын

One of my favorite all time pistols! CZ82s are some of the best shooters out there. I had a 9x18, restored it and sold it. I’ve wanted another one since then, but in 32acp this time.