IT LITERALLY WOULD'VE JUST BEEN BETTER IF THERE WAS JUST A REGULAR STORY WITHOUT ORION TELLING IT TO THE GIRL.

I wish they didn’t try to make a “Oh plot twist he’s actually telling the story as an adult to his daughter” and then completely ruin everything by confusing the story, nothing he said actually happened and another “double plot twist! The daughter has a kid and Orion married his crush!” Like it was so confusing and I wasn’t able to relate to the characters anymore 🤦🏾‍♀️

What angers me the most is how they just targeted the dark and not the other fears of orion, really messed up there

The whole idea of him telling his daughter the story would have been fine if it was real. It did happen and he's telling his daughter about his experience to help her.

I was so excited for this movie when I saw the trailer but then that- DAMNED SCENE OF HIM AND HIS DAUGHTER HAPPENS AND it just feels like all the magic the film was setting up just gets totally washed away 😭😭

I thought this movie would be bad after the reveal that it's a story but at the end it's a family passing a story down until the last kid used his child wonder and makes a bad ending but good for a kid, it's beautiful

They could have fixed this in one of two ways... 1. Have a scene at the start of the movie that establishes the fact that he's telling the story to his daughter, or 2. Wait to reveal that its just a story until the very end of the movie. The premise of the story just kinda shifts halfway through so they could have this new meta storyline. They tried to have their cake and eat it too.

It sounds like this movie's biggest flaw is that Orion telling his daughter a bedtime story about conquering one's fears, was written as a mid-point twist. If the movie had begun with Orion telling the bedtime story to his daughter, the movie would probably be more cohesive.

the second the daughter appeared i knew the movie was gonna go downhill, i havent even watched this but i know we are thinking the same thing

I fully agree with you. The minute they showed this was a fake story, that kind of ruined it for me. But I tried to give it a chance thinking that once the story ended Hypatia would still be scared of the dark. Only for Dark himself to show up a few minutes later, and have her realize the story her dad was telling really was true. But no, they decided to keep it fake, and add a disoriented story plots that didn’t make much sense. I think I would’ve actually liked this movie if Hypatia and later Tiko hadn’t interfered in the story, and adding themselves into it as well. That just didn’t sit well with me.

THE BEGINNING WAS SO GOOD UNTIL THE FRICKIN SELF INSERT. WHY DREAMWORKS???? WHY??????? MOM IM FAMOUS

the ending felt like a kid version of Rick and Morty

Onion and the dark

At first I was so happy seeing the start of the movie bc I have *extreme* paranoia just like child Orion so I can relate to him, but the ''everything is made up'' indeed ruined everything!!

I honestly can't believe how they messed this movie up so badly 💀. Like bro, there is no way they got someone to watch this before releasing it to the public without someone mentioning how the story just falls apart due to everything not being real in the plot

This movie probably could've got 80-90% on rotten tomatoes (audience score) if they literally just removed "the story's not real" and the part where she just jumps in the story like that makes any sense whatsoever

if they never added the old orion part and hypatia and the random time boy then this movie couldve been a 7.7 out of 10

The things that could inprove and fix in this movie 1.The story 2.the plot twists 3.the ending 4.the other entities 5.a magical land 5.cool dark entity vs light entity lore Thats it,thats how i fix this movie

I think that adult Orion is saying “it’s not real” is because he doesn’t want his daughter to try to go on the same goose chase of facelift fears that he has been on. And I also think that the reason why he’s still “afriad of the dark” is because he is still a bit unsettled by it but is not as scared of dark and the others anymore or, atleast not as much as before.

Over the past 10 years i ended up learning to never have much expectations with DreamWorks movies...

That ending was comedic genius

Brooo, I agree so much!!! I loved the movie until the ending. The ending ruined it so much…

saw the movie not too long ago, it was alright but it was kinda disappointing seeing the movie being told as a fictional story through the perspective of a grown orion, they could of potentially expanded the universe with a sequel if the night entities were actually real

To me though: The story is almost fine, even when we see adult Orion telling his daughter a bed time story. Maybe that's a story he didn't made up at that same instance. Maybe earlier he tried and told other stories to his daughter but it didn't work out for her daughter to overcome her fear of the dark, so he thought "i think this, the most personal story of mine about how i became friends with the dark has to be told". So he told *the movie version story* to her daughter and simultaneously telling about his childhood life, his parents, his crush, his *other fears*, how everyone didn't understand his feelings about the fear of the dark, but eventually they'll help him, in their own way, and so so, to her. But wait, it's not a ONE DEAL story. He became friends with Dark that's ok but it took time to actually overcome his fear of the dark. I mean, Dark (as an entity) is his friend but overall he's still a little bit scared of the Dark (the natural phenomenon). Ofc, lots of problems will arise eventually, specially "fear of the unknown". The walking down the street scene in the night with his daughter, it could've been a little more challenging if he could've just walk with his daughter to that park. Ofc his daughter will be scared but that same time he will tell the rest of he story about overcoming his real fear of the dark (the phenomenon). Eventually, it'll be a Twilight. His daughter can experience the meaning of both (Dark and Light) at that frickin same time and understand "it's ok to be scared of dark but sometimes dark can show you something that only be possible of the dark; Dusk and Twilight. They'll hug and shed a tear and go their home. ...and Orion's story will eventually pass on to his daughter and to his grand child. But ofc, not everyone will be impacted the same but eventually it'll. It'll take time to overcome the fear of the dark. and at the final scene, Orion and his wife (childhood crush) gazing at the night sky with glittering stars and then cut to the planetarium scene, they'll touch their hands, slightly. Frickin THE END PS- sorry for too long of a post and grammatical errors. Peace 🕊️ ✌️

This story could've been AMAZING! To be fair though, it depends what happens in the actual book (since the movie was based on a book). Still, really a shame how it turned out. Devastated.

I started it and thought everyone who said it was trash was wrong, then I got to the grandson part and agreed with everyone

Oreo and the duck

I feel like it would be so much better if he told his daughter it was a story, but at the end scene when he’s really old and he’s sitting all alone on the balcony, I wish dark popped up it was like “hey kid, it’s been a while”. And then Orion just smiles in the movie ends! That would have been so good!

i like to think that the girl introduced and weird time travel never happened and the movie went along with orion and the entity's just came for him and the rest of the movie happens also why would the story not be real!?!?!?! i hated that part too where he says the story is not real to

For the first half an hour of this movie, i was HYPED. Netflix was teasing me with trailers coming out everyday, and when it finally came out, when it was revealed that it was just made-up? I just dropped the movie as soon as i could. when the flying turtle scene and the daughter self inserting came on, i turned the tv off.

I would've been fine with the whole thing if the grandson hadn't shown up and ended the story with time travel.

The ending jumbled my brain like a broken rubix cube

I thought it was onion and the dark tbh

Hypacia lowkey looks like a 2d model while orion looks like a 3d model Idk why this is but it looks like this for me at least.

As soon they introduced that it was actually just Orion telling the story to his daughter, i just didn't care about the film anymore

To be honest, I thought it was deeply implied that the story told by Adult Orion was an exaggeration of what actually happened to him; putting a neat spin on his own personal experiences for his daughter to understand.

"Hypatia" Subtitles: "HIPAA"

Before I watch this, just wanna say that I just finished watching the movie after it’s been in my watchlist for a few months and I loved it. Sigh, alright here we go.

Idk why this movie gave me 2015-2016 analog horror vibes

this film has stellar voice-acting!

They should've just cut out the whole "surprise-its-all-fake" and the "time-travelling-elves-and-time-monsters" part

“He just like me fr😭”

Ooooookay........ I'm gonna create a bit of a balance here and say that. I actually liked the movie and how it ended. Even though a little part of me wishes everything was real in that movie's universe, at the same time, I actually like the route they went with it just being a story the dad made up, because usually in movies/shows, the magical beings are real in the cartoon universe the characters live in. I like the more realistic approach they went. And yes I know, not everything has to be realistic especially in fiction, but I like it when some movies add a bit of realism here and there. And I didn't mind that the daughter added herself in the completely made up story her dad couldn't finish, sure it was weird, but she's was an imaginative and creative kid, I didn't expect it to her approach be totally normal I mean, the whole thing was made up from the beginning, with Dark and the other magical entities. Plus, her son and the whole time travel entry wasn't weird or rushed to me (Keywords: TO ME), just another imaginative, creative kid helping his stuck parent finish the story, it was cute in my opinion. Apparently people find the plot twists of it being made up story a dad is telling to his daughter and then the daughter having her own kid and it being revealed that Orion married his childhood crush confusing and unrelatable? But personally I wasn't confused by any of it and I find the reveal of Orion marrying his crush to be more predictable than confusing. Plus, I was still able to relate to the characters. Overall, I'm satisfied with the movie and it's ending. I may be the only one, but 🤷🏿‍♀️

“The Dark” looks like my Profile Picture.

This movie was so random. It went from the story of Orion and the dark, which turned into grown up Orion telling the story to her daughter, to the daughter which turns into a tech kid traveling to Orion and the daughter, to the daughter being a grown up and the tech kid is actually her son, which means Orion is an old grandpa- like what

I only really disagree with Orion being afraid. Fears don’t go away completely, they stay there. That’s realistic!

Wait, when was it released? Also, how many movies are DreamWorks releasing in just this month?

This is "Had me in the first half, not gonna lie" the movie.

The problem I have with going back in time is, how do you know that the kid will still exist?…. because depending on what time it is, his crush could’ve been in a different mood and met another boy

Watching it I was like “wow this is actually good” until the last half where a literal self insert appears and time travel?…monsters?

They showed the plot twist too early, before we could bond with the characters, and right before what was supposd to be a fun scene.

if you know. Bfdi you know Woody he is scared of everything. And that kid is woody

popping off my dude🎉 keep up the great work!

Dark, darker yet darker

That’s because the GOAT Charlie Kaufman wrote the first 30 minutes of this film and then Dreamworks brought in several writers to change his script

This movie tried to do what Umineko did, but it's really really rushed. I belive they could've done better if they had more time to flesh out the meta aspects.

It was fine but I hates all the plot twists I wish it was just a boy who is scared and overcomes his fears what was the whole time travel thing about too 😭

I actually thought this was a show😭

1:34 SpongeBob Reference? Btw theres a episode where spongebob reads a scary story and he places millions of nightlights

Dark is depressed

I usually like most movies I watch but this one, this one.. I really agree with you on the “its everywhere” i just can’t understand some parts and had to rewatch it sometimes. I thought it was gonna be about Orion’s school life and how every fear of his has a lil entity but dark is literally 50% of the entire movie. I don’t like any of the hypatia parts as well it’s out of reach yk? 5/10 since I like movies

I just tried watching it myself and when they switch to adult Orion in the first act with zero warning right before a core moment in the movie I was like "... Why did they do that?" 😅 On top of that I felt like unlike Corpse Bride or Coraline I just found it hard to get into, maybe since I'm an adult and this is very much a middle schooler story. I tried watching for Jacob Tremblay but man.

I honestly wish they could show Orion transitioning from school to night to build up a world of characters.

Boss baby did a better job with the dad telling the movie as a story to his daughter thing than this movie did

Are we? Not gonna mention the fact how there's a mysterious father.Person of the third generation at the end of the movie like we don't know who they are

Finn from adventure time was afraid of the ocean

It was a good movie . I just want something that’s entertaining and it is entertaining.

Orion

What background music is this? The piano in the song is really nice to hear.

This is exactly what I thought when that first scene of them just breaking the story happened, and I was just like, “soo none of this was real or at least a day dream to conquer orions fears?” And honestly when dark died I didn’t really care..

I liked the “story is told in the future” plot twist. What I don’t like is that THEY HAVE 9 BEJILION PLOT TWISTS

I hate the scene with his kid in it.

I haven’t even watched the full movie i dropped it after it showed him as an adult 💔💔

This movie was SUCH a mess. It was going alright EVEN AFTER the first Hypatia scene believe it or not. But they just kept pushing this narrative further and further, and forced the future shenanigans down our throats like they're nagging you to remember that it's all not real. WHATS THE POINT OF THE STORY THEN? A story has to be immersive! but no, they kept poking you like they're trying to grab your attention to the fact that this is all not real. AND they always cut to older Orion in the most terrible moments! not only that, but the did NOTHING with Light's narrative when they were clearly building him up to come back later and do something! Also the night entities seemed like such, insufferable, horrible people. They just immediately backstabbed Dark. I'm so disappointed because I genuinely thought it was going great at first.

that whole bed time story part kinda didnt hit but still a good movie

I half agree with you, but I liked the movie anyways because I used to make up stories in my head to try to convince myself that my fears were okay, and I used to make characters like the guy does in the movie, so it was super relatable to me because when I realized that I was still scared well it wasn't okay. But in the movie they go past that point and when he says "I _am_ scared, but I will do it anyways" that's the best part of the movie and everything before that is worth it imo.

i still loved it

onion and the fork

I kid you not when the second self insert happened I shouted out “What is even happening anymore”

this movie was awesome

EXACTLY as soon as I saw this scene I verbally said “whaaaaat” and I was disappointed the rest of the movie

a quick fix would have been making it a story that orion told himself as a kid to comfort it. that and giving clues that it was just a story. also do you believe in gosts

Tbh I think Orion and the Dark was better than Trolls 3. DreamWorks should have released it in theaters instead of stupid Netflix

THANK YOU! I loved the Dark and the Night Entities, and I was wondering why everyone said the movie was mid. And then Hypatia was introduced. Ohhhhh man, words can't describe how much I hate her character and how she's suddenly inserted into Orion's story. She adds nothing to the film, and she had no reason to influence the plot that much.

I think that the same thing, I really think that the movie would have been incredible if it hadn’t tried to make a storybook type ending

i feel like the scene with his daughter should've played at the end at the film tbh.

When was the plot twist revealed in the book anyway? At the same point? I guess it doesn't work for a movie.

Was I the only one where after it turned out he was telling a story to his daughter that it started to feel like it was made by ai?

great video!!!

Ngl, I didn't even know this movie existed

I kinda just wish that they never introduced the daughter, which probably would just stop the movie from making no sense.

1:01 Ah, a foundatioi! Never knew those existed.

Dank oreo🥲

I only wish they hadn’t shown them both old.

There was no steaks because they made it a story so if Ryan died, no one would care the story really falls apart when the daughter gets added into the story

I’m so glad someone can agree with me that this movie was AWEFUL! The plot line would just go wherever the hell it wanted to go and completely RUINED MY RESPECT FOR IT, they make this into a giant confusing plot line for some reason which makes absolutely no sense, they decided that in the middle of the movie to just tell you it’s fake and expect you to still feel immersive in the story, IM NOT GONNA FEEL IMMERSIVE IN THE STORY IF THE PLOT IS MADE TO SHOW ITS NOT EVEN REAL, I’d rather watch turbo again god damn.

I like this movie!!!🙂

Dark.... Ther you go ....

I fell asleep after dark took Orion for him to see he's not scary.

It would have been cool if the movie went on and then Hypatia was introduced at the end and then she also meets dark