Also rest in peace Donald Sutherland

I miss your Oscar talk. But we'll be back again soon enough )))

Hearing Chris refusing to watch Ordinary People reminded me when Joyce refused to listen to No Time to Die by Billie Eillish 😂 Also I love Ordinary People, it’s one of my favorite films of all time.

I love the Oscar’s playback! So glad you guys are back!

As an Oscar-mad (just) teenager in 1980-1981, I avidly followed this race. It was a year wherein the frontrunners were considered locks (I was desperate for a Tyler Moore win, but knew Spacek had it sewn up). Don't remember any talk about Hutton being a lead, or Tyler Moore going supporting, which she could do today. The big shock was Sutherland not getting a Best Actor nomination- watching his impactful performance and with the subsequent Globe nomination, it appeared to be a done deal (and deserved). I really felt bad for him.

Excellent these are fascinating insights into past ceremonies. Great work both

Wonderful video, as always. Love ‘Ordinary People’. Can’t wait for the next episode!

IMHO, Ordinary People does hold up. Yes, best picture for Ordinary People, maybe best director for Scorsese. Raging Bull was just revolutionary but Ordinary People was one of those pictures important for the time. Most egregious of the year for Me was MTM losing to Sissy. MTM was a smaller role but Stellar and Sissy needed to carry the entire film so I get it. The other part to the shock was MTM Doing this role; it was soooo not who the common public was used to when we saw this woman. Ah well, thanks so much for hitting the 80s. It doesn't hold up as my favorite film but The Color Purple is what got me into movies.

I just watched Ordinary People for the first time in decades. It is a much more powerful movie than I remembered, and definitely the best picture of 1980. It really makes you feel, and Raging Bull doesn't. And I certainly think the final scene between Timothy Hutton and Judd Hirs ch is masterful. Certainly category fraud for Hutton but yes, there was no way he was beating DeNiro in lead actor. Donald Sutherland disappeared for half the movie. I would have nominated him for supporting actor but I think his "snub" was because he got votes in lead and supporting and he didn't get enough in either category.

Thanks Joyce. MTM crying scene. Loved it. I feel her crying scene seemed so odd and unusual, and it's because she didn't cry, she didn't know how to cry. I've always felt that. There wasn't more for MTM; she was TV royalty. Maybe supporting for Flirting With Disaster but that's a stretch.

Yesss !!! More more more !!! ❤❤❤❤

I wonder if the emailer that started following the Oscars in the 70s(?) chimes in with this playback

I think Ordinary People and Shakespeare in Love vs Raging Bull and SPR is akin to acting vs awe, front of the house vs back of the house winning. Sometines its reverse; The English Patient vs Fargo. It's what Most get behind. Unless it's Crash, CODA or Nomadland, then kill me now for these picks.

Does anyone see similarities between Ordinary People and American Beauty?

Oscars Playback!!😍

I'm not a big fan of David Lynch, but I do feel that Elephant Man is his best film. I sometimes wonder whether or not Raging Bull and Elephant man cancelled themselves out since they were both in black and white? I also think that it was Anthony Hopkin's performance in Elephant Man that foreshadowed his role as Hannibal Lecter.

Finally!!!

Dressed To Kill. DePalma snubbed!

Wonderful entry. Remember this ceremony as though it were yesterday; all of Hollywood was scrambling, and that was 1981 -- now it would be rescheduling Armageddon. Watched "Ordinary People" again on the night Donald Sutherland passed -- rest in peace, rise in power -- and not only should he have been nominated, but the film totally holds up, and then some. Absolutely Timothy Hutton for Supporting Actor was category fraud, but he would never have beat DeNiro in Lead Actor, so that's alright. "Raging Bull" was simply too visionary Art House to take BP; today it would likely be a slam dunk. Also remember "Airplane!" when it came out; slid off my seat laughing. That film couldn't be made today. As ever, youse twose are the berries. More, please, thank you.

I agree ..people shouldn't just bandwagon everything. I am meh on Social Network, for example.

The Academy will always go for the more "Vanilla" choice.

Raging Bull stans are just delusional. Even if you think RB is a better movie, it's by no means an Oscar movie, especially back then. Oscars BP winners are always the more emotional films where people are connected to the characters. Scorsese's movies in generally just don't click enough with the voters. Another good parallel for Scorsese's loss is when Million Dollar Baby defeated The Aviator. Both Redford and Eastwood show class and restraint in their filmmaking and make the audience feel deeply in the end.

it is official. I have become a cranky old man who doesn't trust the younger generation in their tastes and/or their ability to be discerning. when I hear this host say in regards to AMERICAN BEAUTY "it sucks now, but It was really good back in the time." I have to work to not dismiss him and this channel immediately and move forward. and it is actually not about whether one likes or dislikes AMERICAN BEAUTY. it is his statement that "it sucks now" I find troubling. "it sucks now'?? it sucks now? are we in the 9th grade? are we discussing cafeteria food? or the car I have to drive which used to belong to my grandmother? it sucks now?? this is a critic speaking? who is an adult? and forgive me-i am not a prude. I am not formal usually. I am not even good with punctuation at times. but "it sucks"? i don't understand the sucking. (and truthfully, I have never understood that phrase, as I have a rather complex relationship to the act of sucking. there has been many a day when I have enjoyed sucking. there have also been days when sucking sucked, however.) I am confused how a movie can win best picture as a big hit one year, and then "suck" a few years later. yes, tastes change. ideas change. one could even argue that sucking can change. it can. trust me. disappointed in this moment. and as I keep watching I am not seeing anything that is suddenly redeeming the gaffe of such a remark. maybe I should just go there and ask you all to stay off my lawn! do your country a favor-cut your hair! or simply I will say-"aim higher". ps. wait. I didn't just hear that did I? wow. why are you laughing in mockery at simply saying the title STARDUST MEMORIES? folks-grow up! come on now. really? embarrassing. if you don't approve of Woody Allen-fine-that is up to you-and you do you. but his body of work is not a mockery. Michael Jackson's body of work is not a mockery. Roman Polanski's body of work is not a mockery. however one feels about their actions and controversies. how are we supposed to take you seriously? you are talking and acting like teenagers here in several ways. I am genuinely surprised by this. I thought gold derby was legit and such. wow.