Our Customer Decided On A Fix For The 172 Ford Block!

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Жыл бұрын

This video is a quick follow up to last week's video which you can find here:
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There is often more than one way to fix a problem, and you have to take into consideration the budget, application, and the end goal. In this case, this is what we decided for this 172 Ford!
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@dwightwaldvogel2783 Жыл бұрын

My wife makes the stones for your sunnen machine

@eric63377 Жыл бұрын

That's awsome man tell her thank you for her service to the industry.

@northernmetalworker Жыл бұрын

Ill be buying a sunnen horizontal hone within a year or so. I guess your wife will have another customer soon!

@dwightwaldvogel2783 Жыл бұрын

@@northernmetalworker thanks for the support ! She’s been with Sunnen for almost 15 years. , they keep her pretty busy but new customers are always welcome !

@dwightwaldvogel2783 Жыл бұрын

@@eric63377 they just made a deal with Rousch racing as the only machine in their shop !

@nkb069 Жыл бұрын

@@dwightwaldvogel2783 as it should be!

@michaelhofer9149 Жыл бұрын

Make this engine a series please! These 2 videos reminded me what it was like when I was rebuilding engines in the truck shop I started at in 1972. Some of us OldGoats need to be reminded of simpler times.

@jeffcarpenter5147 Жыл бұрын

Good to see a shop with conscientious people. Not just trying to get it out the door!

@ryno6101 Жыл бұрын

When drilling out an existing hole always use a 4 or more flute tool like a core drill because it will follow the existing hole a 2 flute can wander because its point is not in the material keeping it centered. Don’t matter how good and tight spindle is. I’m a retired toolmaker.

@JAMSIONLINE Жыл бұрын

I’ll keep that in mind, although I can’t say I have had issues with these wandering any 😊

@ObservationofLimits Жыл бұрын

When you're removing little more than threads there's an almost zero chance of wander, especially in a fixed setup. Ryno, otherwise your advice would be saying every machinist who predrills something like a 1/4" starter to avoid the web of a 1-1/2" twist drill is risking "wandering".

@russelljackson7034 10 ай бұрын

Right on

@craigm.9070 Жыл бұрын

You guys always reinforce - There is no substitute for excellent machine work; and an excellent machinst(s). Thanks for your time on this guys!

@John-sl1rk 2 ай бұрын

Absolutely precision work gentlemen,good to see precision workmanship wish you were here in downunder land

@glennbarker222 Жыл бұрын

Beautiful work as always, very impressive. Look forward to seeing the new pistons being fitted. Or rather, the bores being sized for the new pistons.

@pollodustino Жыл бұрын

Makes me think of all the days I spent in my college automotive machine shop blueprinting my Mopar 360/408 stroker motor. Glad to see there are machine shops out there taking the time to do a fantastic job for their customers. Looking forward to the next video.

@ShawnEngland Жыл бұрын

Hope to see a part 3. Keep up the awesome work!

@pete540Z Жыл бұрын

Pressing the sleeves leaves them with compressive residual stress in the stroke direction of the sleeve from the pressing, along with compressive hoop stress, while shrinking them with a liquid nitrogen will end up with compressive hoop stress only. So there is a difference, I just don't know if it matters much.

@skurblord3401 Жыл бұрын

Probably not much. The compressive hoop stress is far greater and beneficial for the overall strength of the sleeve. I believe this is for a low RPM motor so it probably will not effect anything in a noticeable way.

@jimbob8969 Жыл бұрын

It won’t matter on this particular engine.

@RCjunkie Жыл бұрын

Love your vids, retired machinist, and old car guy.And did lead work on cars

@stephensomersify Жыл бұрын

Brilliant - educating and entertaining ---------- old git, UK

@andyjones357 Жыл бұрын

That's fun watching you guys rebuilding tractor motors and learn your tricks around some tricky spots

@bladewiper Жыл бұрын

Now I am hoping for a part three.

@65f100352 Жыл бұрын

I absolutely love your videos! I'd love to just hang out and watch these operations being done in person. Fascinating! Nice work!

@JohnH20111 Жыл бұрын

outstanding work on that engine block and especially with getting the cylinders as straight as possible much love and respect from a ‘Shadetree Mechanic’

@pettyfogger2305 Жыл бұрын

The specialty machines (and their level of sophistication & accuracy) are amazing! At one time I was rather liberal in calling an operation or it's operator "fussy"; after getting hooked on your channel it turns out that I owe a whole bunch of people apologies. Thanks for the infotainment!😊

@lannywestgard6131 Жыл бұрын

@Petty fogger This is some of the best Infotainment out there. Gives @This Old Tony a run for his money !

@satibel Жыл бұрын

@@lannywestgard6131 ToT is still the best as far as editing goes

@cobra02411 Жыл бұрын

Love the follow-up. Seems like a reasonable compromise to cost and for what the engine is it will likely last for years and years.

@AustinCoulson Жыл бұрын

Awesome video, thanks for keeping us in the loop on that engine

@ericvogel1126 Жыл бұрын

You have a very interesting site and you both obviously care about the quality that you give to your customers.

@NukeXombie Жыл бұрын

🫨That drill bit set giggled my jibblets😂

@danhunik7949 11 ай бұрын

My experience with with thread repair taught me that while helicoils work well they do not stand up as well to repeated tighten loosen cycles as the threaded inserts you used. We used many thread repair inserts on the knife heads of sawmill equipment. The bolts were tightened and loosed at least once a day as the knives were changed out. Helicoils did not stand up well to that use.

@joannaatkins822 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this update! It might be a shorter video, but it's a good one and I appreciate it. I think going for oversized pistons is a good compromise here, and I hope you're pleased with the end result

@d00dEEE Жыл бұрын

Good call on the customer's part. Keep the cost down, yet get a good result.

@fm00078 Жыл бұрын

HUGE THANKS for a wrap-up video. 😉 Glad to see caring machinists again. Yah, it's been a REALLY LOOooong time.

@JoseLuis-ur3ho Жыл бұрын

Love seeing things like this and getting to understand how things go from broken to fixed . Always great when people explain the process from start to finish . Great work . Looking forward to seeing the next 1 .

@crypkrazee Жыл бұрын

It is difficult to always be perfect but when can surely try. Great job guys and pup

@bluecollarmage4512 Жыл бұрын

What a beautifully proper fix assisted by the customer, I love it.

@ABEULER1981 Жыл бұрын

Love the DETAIL Great Work

@QCDoesIt Жыл бұрын

The attention to detail is great. You guys to phenomenal work. Wished I lived closer so I could bring some work to you

@loviedebiasio8864 Жыл бұрын

Very Nice. Reminds of the engine rebuild class I took 4 times in College. I had some projects 😀

@christophercastor6666 Жыл бұрын

You do a hell of a job with machining and with spitting on video about the precision game. Keep kicking ass and taking names. Thank you for the spectacular quality and entertainment

@wilsonrawlin8547 Жыл бұрын

She's going to last a very long time if the owner takes care of her. So well machined. Critical part is setting the rings up too.

@somethingabouttractors241 Жыл бұрын

The honing machine is awesome!

@bryanpiereson8083 Жыл бұрын

Thanks, enjoyed the thorough explanation.

@scrivyscriv 9 ай бұрын

Thanks for the update, and great work! It's good to see guys take the time to do a thorough job and use the right tools for it.

@lloydrmc Жыл бұрын

As always, the quality of your work, and the care you take doing it are quite impressive and inspiring

@tca375 Жыл бұрын

Excellent work and video.

@ahndeux Жыл бұрын

Its great to see true professionals doing a great job. I would never be able to maintain these tight tolerances. No matter what your standards are, it is light years ahead of how that engine was when it showed up in your shop.

@donhuebert9151 Жыл бұрын

Yup, keep 'em coming.

@HeinzGuderian_ Жыл бұрын

At least your customer is reasonable and understands you are trying to fix what the previous shop messed up.

@chrisoakey9841 Жыл бұрын

lots of people say liquids wont compress. but its simply not true. there are even tables about compressibility of different liquids. some things hydro lock because the liquid compresses initially then presses back. thanks for the content.. its just one frustration when engineers say this but know its not actually true.

@73honda350 Жыл бұрын

Really interesting update. Hope to see the rest of this Ford 172 project.

@bad406camaro Жыл бұрын

Love the content ! sorry it took me 6 days to watch the video. Weather warmed up days got busy ! but looked forward all week to this video after seeing the thumb on monday !

@normcameron2316 Жыл бұрын

I notice the first replacement sleeves are rough. That is because they are rough repair sleeves meant to be finished in place. Dry sleeves will distort during installation, depending on the condition of the block and how they are installed.

@Loyzfr1 Жыл бұрын

👏🏽👏🏽 Awsome work young Man.

@billkea7224 Жыл бұрын

It is a pleasure to watch you guys work.

@douglasmayherjr.5733 Жыл бұрын

Appreciate your attention to detail. Machining seems to be a lost art. There used to be machine shops in every town. Thanks for the videos.

@Joe___R Жыл бұрын

Do you have a lathe that you could make your own sleeves on. That would be a good solution for a lot of your odd ball engines.

@justinadickes4770 Жыл бұрын

Cool to see the options laid out then executed to the best of your abilities

@patrickwendling6759 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for your knowledge and video's USA 🇺🇸 USA 🇺🇸

@andyjones6361 Жыл бұрын

I believe you guys do awesome work. The step by step process is so nice to see! Keep the good work going!

@wanjockey Жыл бұрын

Great! thanks for the update.

@sincityvogel Жыл бұрын

I'm excited to see it finished out.

@glenncourtney4876 10 ай бұрын

Beautiful!

@philzellmer6073 10 ай бұрын

Nice job guys!!

@mikezimmermann89 6 ай бұрын

As always, loved your video. Your great videography and narration are much appreciated by this “shade-tree” mechanic who’s always been curious about what gets done to heads and blocks when they’re sent “out” for work. Question: Who are those short-haircut youngsters that are always showing up in you “outro”? 😊

@MyChava69 Жыл бұрын

You guy do great work!

@downtheshedwithjason 7 ай бұрын

thats one of the honing machines i used. started on the horizontal machines lol

@SightsNjunk Жыл бұрын

Nice work! As always.

@texastopshotsphotography2997 Жыл бұрын

I would love to see a part 3 if you do any more work to this engine. Thanks for putting out these videos.

@mattorendorff8858 3 ай бұрын

Great edit.

@chrisbarnes2823 Жыл бұрын

Nice machine work.

@RicoCantrell Жыл бұрын

Machining is so satisfying to see.

@stevewaterhouse3025 Жыл бұрын

great stuff guys!

@memadmax69 Жыл бұрын

Very nice, I hope we get to see the finished, painted engine when shes all done.

@moldmaker1234 Жыл бұрын

always like seeing you guys and Steve Morris Engines videos, would love to see some kind of collab, race engine builder and the similarities with machining repair.

@rafaelfelix8806 Жыл бұрын

Keep up the good work love the video’s your dads hair is hilarious

@miceinoz1181 Жыл бұрын

Agreed, and at least he still has a full head of hair, many small business owners or farmers do not. But a small business owner and a farmer.........it is a wonder he still has his sanity these days.

@pettyfogger2305 Жыл бұрын

I take exception to the term 'hilarious', friend. As a cue ball myself, I worship Dad's ability to grow and keep his hair; I personally would have torn mine out in frustration and stress if I was doing their brand of micro surgery promptly and dependably with their degree of accuracy. Be nice to Jim's hair, Dude; if it was an animal it would be on the Endangered List.

@327JohnnySS Жыл бұрын

As always great work and video.

@maldo72 Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@bill8by5 Жыл бұрын

you guys do such magnificent work!!!! Shame you are so far away. Of course, I say the same thing about Richard Crich about my 4L60E I need to rebuild.

@rickjohnson1632 Жыл бұрын

Beautiful work

@JAMSIONLINE Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

@ihavethedocuments2580 Жыл бұрын

Nice work

@anthonylehner3643 Жыл бұрын

Very impressive brother!

@DC-dd7cz Жыл бұрын

I have a question, why when you are boring a bank of cylinders why do you start with one of the middle holes vs the end holes? Been wondering that for a while

@JAMSIONLINE Жыл бұрын

Generally the main bore webbing in the block is closer to the bottom of the bores in the middle than on the end; If you start on the end cylinder, you may think you have your z-axis stop set in the right spot, but then you move over to the next cylinder where there is more webbing and crash the machine. So we start where the webbing is closer & then don’t have to worry about crashing lol

@DC-dd7cz Жыл бұрын

@@JAMSIONLINE makes sense thank for responding. Love the vids

@JAMSIONLINE Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment and for watching 👌

@vrm86gt Жыл бұрын

Nice job!

@PRE11.22 Жыл бұрын

Please continue to make videos about this engine build I am very interested in the whole process

@projectdirtbikes Жыл бұрын

Cool fix!

@fredproctor6973 Жыл бұрын

Good job

@Gogibear Жыл бұрын

That was a rough fix to my curiosity. I need a fine fix. More content.

@JAMSIONLINE Жыл бұрын

Will try for a longer video next week but I needed a break this week lol

@pettyfogger2305 Жыл бұрын

@@JAMSIONLINE In this age of increasing indolence and the marked decline in anything resembling personal pride and ownership of the job accomplished, you guys deserve to take a month off! You could take a trip to Switzerland to help them reimage the glory days of Swiss watchmaking when timepieces marked "Swiss made" were the benchmark of sterling attention to detail-even the ones your average Joe could afford.

@OUSWKR Жыл бұрын

Great video as always!

@mdfishman1959 11 ай бұрын

Great video

@cameroncashatt692 Жыл бұрын

check out ttc review on tread inserts

@crxtodd16 Жыл бұрын

Beautiful work, as usual, gentlemen. Wish you guys were local to me as I'd happily send my machine work to you. My local shops seem to do sloppy work in comparison to you guys on everything I send to them.. 😵‍💫

@michaeldunagan8268 Жыл бұрын

I am so glad that the customer decided to do it right. I don't care if it is a low RPM engine: and Anton can be put under heavy load at low RPMs if it's pulling heavy equipment tearing up the ground like a plow or a discus. Having egg-shaped oars is just not the way to rebuild a block.

@bowez9 Жыл бұрын

Plugging the hole is the gold standard but those Kienserts are good too.

@FlockingmMollifordsonite Жыл бұрын

Always interesting. Thanks for updating. Do you have people bring their equipment by that’s been operating for a decade or more since you’ve worked their issues? That would make great content, customers showing their appreciation by bringing your hard work back to show off what taking care of something means to them and you and viewers.

@philliphall5198 Жыл бұрын

Wish you were closer to me I have one that needs you

@gartwilliams3347 Жыл бұрын

Love watching this soon-to-be lost art. FJB!

@mccradyfarms6410 Жыл бұрын

We will be waiting on part 3

@davebutler9142 Жыл бұрын

Thread inserts should always be installed before the block is decked, to avoid distortion.

@eprofessio Жыл бұрын

I just size up to the next bolt size and drill the the head and put virgin threads in the block.

@bigal878 Жыл бұрын

Great job 👍🏻🇦🇺

@tonymengela3575 Жыл бұрын

There is not a metal shop in the world that doesnt have that harbor freight drill set! They may not be the best but man have they come in handy for me

@JAMSIONLINE Жыл бұрын

These are actually from www.kbctools.com 😎 I like them!

@gazza116 Жыл бұрын

the headgasket isnt going to seal the liners, allowing compression down the sides of the liners.seen this happen on a perkins engine,compression got between sleeve and parent bore causing the piston dragging the sleeve into the sump.