For everyone wondering how Checo got a 1 instead of a zero, it's because getting 2 DNF's in one race is impressive enough to warrant at least one point.
@tjeerd736010 ай бұрын
You cant get 2 DNF's in one race
@mia_adriana349410 ай бұрын
@@tjeerd7360but Checo kinda did get that though😂
@tjeerd736010 ай бұрын
@@mia_adriana3494 kinda... but not really
@charamia940210 ай бұрын
@@tjeerd7360You can't get an DNQ, DNF and DSQ in the same race either, except if you're Hans Heyer. Perez withdrew and was labelled 'out' in the timing tower, came back on track, withdrew again and was labelled 'out' again. That is, in my book, two DNFs.
@mia_adriana349410 ай бұрын
@@tjeerd7360 yeah I know
@rdvanbilgic34111 ай бұрын
Im curious as to why you guys didn't give Checo 0/10 considering (I quote you both) "He couldn't have a worse race"
@aliciag987411 ай бұрын
have they ever given a 0? i can't recall
@rdvanbilgic34111 ай бұрын
@@aliciag9874 Yes, they have given 0 to drivers several times before
@mohammadnashitsiddiqui216811 ай бұрын
@@aliciag9874 Lance got it last week
@soundscape2611 ай бұрын
For the quali I guess, otherwise Lance would've been -1 in Singapore.
@Jamaniak10 ай бұрын
Zero was 100% deserved
@the_dented_NPC11 ай бұрын
When I said I want a driver to unretire, I mean Seb and not Checo🤕
@gameofender446311 ай бұрын
Tommy gave him the same rating Russell got in Singapore. Ridiculous.
@jdm533011 ай бұрын
@@gameofender4463 Checo was a pure amateur out there, not a singular glimpse of comparison to his teammate in the exact same car, through practice or qualifying… And then a diabolical race that not even a rookie could be excused for, driving like a f1 23 online lobby player, a joke that he’s in a top team, and yet somehow he gets the same rank as George in Singapore. Stupid.. Checo is 0 this weekend and should be out of his seat asap
@mohammadnashitsiddiqui216811 ай бұрын
@@jdm5330 I want Checo out as much as the next guy, but the replacements aren't ready yet
@jdm533011 ай бұрын
@@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168I’d take anyone on the grid over him - Sargeant… ideally Lawson Ric or Tsunoda in 2025 though. Or Lando / Leclerc as their contracts are currently only through 24’ ?
@hakshustletv11 ай бұрын
@@jdm5330 Idk why Charles would make that move or Lando, they're going to be the B drivers and the car will be built for Max more than it will be built for them. The need someone to compliment Max more than anything and not someone to try and compete with him.
@bbombah786011 ай бұрын
Checo getting the same as George in Singapore is unbelievable
@gameofender446311 ай бұрын
Hating on George is the “cool” thing to do apparently. Hard to not feel sympathy for the guy even if he’s not your favourite.
@takeit122911 ай бұрын
1 out of 10 is too high for Checo, that race was an absolute 0.
@davyt024711 ай бұрын
@@takeit1229 that divebomb was so dumb
@magmacorex11 ай бұрын
seriously the hate I've seen online has been insane @@gameofender4463
@justusbeweel110911 ай бұрын
@@takeit1229this was the worst performance i have ever seen of a driver in a top team.
@jdbb3gotskills11 ай бұрын
Im shocked Checo got a 1. I was thinking 0 this week.
@laszlomatko998111 ай бұрын
They forgor💀
@MoliikCZE11 ай бұрын
He was decent in quali
@ForzaPolska0611 ай бұрын
@@MoliikCZEhe was what? ☠
@TimWells11 ай бұрын
I figured we would see our first negative score
@laszlomatko998111 ай бұрын
@@MoliikCZE ah yes, getting beaten by your teammat by 8 TENTHS is really a solid drive
@PyreEntei11 ай бұрын
How did Checo not get a 0? Will never know. That performance from Checo, as I like him, but it was an outright shocker of a race.
@mrsarkey11 ай бұрын
Their ratings never make sense. Mediocre race gets you a 7 or 8, everything else is a 4 or 5.
@Husshuss10010 ай бұрын
They account for Qualifying too. Stroll got a 0 last time because he qualified 20th and didn't participate in the race.
@Cloxxki10 ай бұрын
Maybe we need to blame Sainz and Hamilton for the start contact, the rest is on Perez.
@TheBest1418410 ай бұрын
@@Husshuss100if they are accounting for qualifying it should be a -1, not just 0. He was 8 tenths off. It’s horrific
@Cloxxki10 ай бұрын
@@_chosen1_ It's said he could not know there were two Ferraris on the right. See the empty road ahead. Where would they be? No I'm not full blaming Hamilton, but he's done enough race starts to know Perez likely can't give him room.
@andrewhazlewood456910 ай бұрын
Piastri didn’t have his best race finishing well behind Lando but he had never raced on this track before. That has to count for something.
@osclint10 ай бұрын
+ they dont even rate him as a rookie anymore (which is a good and a bad thing)
@JC-lu4se10 ай бұрын
The Lando bias is extreme with these two. To out qualify Lando on a track he’s never raced before and get a podium and a front row start is a 9 in my book.
@bjs744210 ай бұрын
@@JC-lu4se When you look at the ratings in the quality press that is the view that Oscar did well in quali but in the race Lando was on a different level. Remember he out qualified Lando by just .03 and that got him the front row start. You cant count it twice. Tommo docked Lando a point for that. He was in the second fastest car in the race . If Lando hadnt had issues and the virtual safety car hadnt happened (for once in Oscars favor) he could have ended up 30 secs behind Lando. Thats huge. Oscar admitted it wasnt a good drive. You dont like the reality of the drive being addressed rather than the hype around the driver. You need to get used to it. Oscar doesnt need the rookie excuse for a higher rating. He is a very good F1 driver.
@michaelb379810 ай бұрын
Not just that...he let Lando pass...if he defended Lando would of worn his tyres alot more.
@BrandoN-ie1np10 ай бұрын
Also, his wage is way lower than Lando would not been mentioned either...
@Jerry-gv1cq11 ай бұрын
Ocon's race engineer actually agreed to swap back. You can hear it on lap 49, before turn 10 i think. They just forgot to tell Pierre
@Ho3n3r11 ай бұрын
Can't wait for the day you guys differ in ratings for 3 or more drivers. Gonna be absolute scenes.
@TheJubess10 ай бұрын
scenes it is then
@tomn276510 ай бұрын
we need katie back or a 3rd host so they feel comfortable having variety in their opinions
@stephencarney47710 ай бұрын
They even shared script for Zhou. “13th looks good on paper … only finished ahead of two Haas”
@twanvanderdonk250410 ай бұрын
They differed on 5 in this video...
@Cloxxki11 ай бұрын
How much pace must Lawson be holding back to be crash free after 4 weekends, performing so closely and even ahead of the 3-season veteran in the other car?
@KA9513210 ай бұрын
And still Tsunoda gets a 7 after being beaten by a 4-race rookie teammate It will be so so sad if we see Stroll and Sargent driving next season and Lawson without a seat
@soundscape2610 ай бұрын
@@KA95132 He qualified ahead of Lawson and was beaten in the race by a couple seconds... 8 for Lawson, 7 for Tsunoda seems quite fair.
@Cloxxki10 ай бұрын
@@KA95132 I suspect Perez will solving Lawson's problem. "What you say, we do like Daniel at McLaren, you pay me and I don't drive?" They could have him do some promo events in Mexico and such, gets some reasonable value from him and not ask a lot of travel. If Williams were to get Lawson on loan and THEN Perez retires from F1 racing, there is a real problem already. Put Iwasa, Hauger or Hadjar in the AT? For Iwasa they'd want Honda money, Hauger and Hadjar are meh. Then there's Caldwell, Maloney and Fittipaldi. Any of them show they "got it"?
@Evarakeus10 ай бұрын
@@soundscape26He was beaten but under a second, not a couple seconds
@ZyahCatDragonCat10 ай бұрын
@@Cloxxki Iwasa and then Maloney, but Im not convinced either of them are anywhere close to Liam.
@Michael-ll7tt11 ай бұрын
Liam and Oscar are definitely rookies of the year
@chriscampbell130910 ай бұрын
Competition from Logan hardly fierce
@Lastname695510 ай бұрын
@@chriscampbell1309 or Nyck De Goat
@LJRacing23310 ай бұрын
@@Lastname6955nah Nyck takes the win. He definitely impressed us all. I’m not sure how anyone with his experience, debut and hype could be any less of a driver. That’s impressive.
@iamr.o.b.therobot11 ай бұрын
The shocking part about Logan is that he seems to be getting worse. Bahrain and Saudi were his best performances of the year and it's been downhill ever since. Polar opposite to Oscar, who's been just okay early on and is now putting in amazing performances. Even Mick last year (since you cant really take Year 1 with THAT Haas into account), who had an awful start to the season, crashing lots and being generally slower than KMag greatly picked up the pace from Canada onward, being the faster Haas driver in an unfortunately yet again too slow of a car in the second half of the season. But compared to his teammate, he improved massively, even winning the race head-to-head despite less points - and he still lost that seat. Same goes for Yuki in his rookie season, he improved significantly and has been improving ever since. For Logan, it seems to be the polar opposite so far.
@pizzalover152511 ай бұрын
Completely spot on
@zordiark967311 ай бұрын
While Oscar seemed very much invisible until Silverstone, Logan began to be a Mazepin 1.5 We had 4 Rookies this Year, two of them do fine, the others are/were horrendous. I dont think that Williams is even capable of keeping Logan because he produces way to much costs with his crashes (not even taking into account that his skill is evolving backwards)
@Oscar42o11 ай бұрын
I mean for Oscar, the car he's driving is definitely getting better.
@AzureKite11 ай бұрын
Yeah Logan had a few bright spots this season, he even had that one session in which he made it to Q3 and... immediately crashed the car. So inconsistent, so many rookie mistakes. I've been a big supporter of Logan Sargeant, believing he deserved another season to show what he can do, but now I think Liam Lawson is more deserving of a spot than he is. Maybe F1 just isn't for Sargeant, I hope he finds himself a spot in IndyCar or some other category where he can shine.
@iamr.o.b.therobot11 ай бұрын
@Oscar42o 100%, but it's still not a guaranteed podium and all. Just look at Checo. Or Strolls 0 podiums compared to Alonsos 7.
@ThommyOcho10 ай бұрын
There is a sound bite of Max after Singapore GP, when it says in an interview that he is fine with his race performance. This race he lost by 20 sec so he will try to win by 20 sec in Japan. That MF called it 2 weeks ago. Amazing performance.
@FrancisFjordCupola10 ай бұрын
And.... you may have missed it, but he was also joking. In reality, just watch the interviews in Dutch on Dutch television, you see Max wasn't bothered at all by what happened in Singapore. Usually he wins by twenty seconds, so it's just his way of saying he would return to form. And he did.
@mamavswild10 ай бұрын
Lol, It reminds me of the Babe Ruth moment where he Called The Shot in baseball.
@aditsood936910 ай бұрын
@@FrancisFjordCupolaI think he'd be pissed off if the car was capable of being up there but he couldn't manage to do it. In Singapore however, the car was just nowhere near the front, so what's the point in getting bothered by that
@ThommyOcho10 ай бұрын
@@FrancisFjordCupola I don’t if I watched the Dutch of Spanish interview or both - I noticed he was “joking” or it was a tongue in cheek comment. But I can’t help but think, on some level, he really meant it. Similar to the comment after Q3, the “see 28” comment to GP as in saying, told you I could beat the 1.29 and it wasn’t really necessary
@eternal_trashero11 ай бұрын
Double DNF for Redbull and Max still won by 20 seconds.
@mohammadnashitsiddiqui216811 ай бұрын
"Sir, there's been a 2nd front wing"
@2Fast4Mellow10 ай бұрын
Technically it was a double retirement, not a double DNF!
@ftc-nl104110 ай бұрын
@@2Fast4Mellow A retirement is a DNF and a DNF doesn't have to be a retirement.
@tjeerd736010 ай бұрын
@@ftc-nl1041thats not true. You get a DNF because of a retirement. But it is not the same. You only DNF at the end of the race, when you dont cross the finishline. But you can retire the car during the race
@paulalexander887410 ай бұрын
"Yes he is in a good car, but the car doesn't drive itself" Well said Tommy 👏 I'm not a Max fan but he is a joy to watch and something every true f1 should appreciate being able to witness in real time. We hear the stories of Clark and Fangio, this is another chapter in that story so pay attention everyone!
@Tommyplodocus11 ай бұрын
It will be a shame if Lawson can't find a seat next season. His performances are looking promising!
@miguelsuarezygonzalez606111 ай бұрын
Agreed! I really hope Williams find some sense and replace Sargeant with Lawson.
@Melbourne-s4x10 ай бұрын
Looking more likely he'll be driving for Alpha Tauri, there's no way Sergio survives this embarrassing career demise.
@MikeD-ej2ho10 ай бұрын
I think a part of it is he's driving with nothing to lose. Not saying he isn't or won't be great but we saw the same thing with Nyck last year and its possible that is a contributing factor. Hopefully the rumors that he was promised a seat for 2025 are true.
@einstijn13810 ай бұрын
Rumours are that he has been promised a seat in the RB family in 2025 for signing on as the third driver for 2024. But with how Checo is performing, I could very well see Liam driving for either RB or AT in 2024 already.
@twanvanderdonk250410 ай бұрын
@@einstijn138 Nah, definitely not RB though
@FrankieMacYYC11 ай бұрын
With the amount of time Danny Ric has been out, I am wondering if Stroll has been driving injured for the season. He came back awfully fast from a similar injury and has never returned to form.
@michaelwilkie3510 ай бұрын
I’ve been wondering that for a while now. Not defending him entirely, but with how progressively “worse” he’s been as the season goes on it makes sense, (compared to the up & down “Strollercoaster” consistency he’s had really his whole F1 career).
@mamavswild10 ай бұрын
@@michaelwilkie35. I would agree but he’s been progressively detached in his behavior as well. And Ric’s injury included multiple breaks in a single area, not one (on each side, sure) with stroll.
@Drrolfski11 ай бұрын
From the first lap in FP1 (2 sec ahead on the grid) you could sense that Max was in slaughter mode and there was no use in betting against this guy this weekend.
@Cloxxki10 ай бұрын
Makes you wonder why the other 19 don't use that mode sometimes.
@johart30910 ай бұрын
Checo was in slaughter mode too, just with different targets to hit@@Cloxxki
@julianmunz816211 ай бұрын
Would be cool to give the team/car a rating as well that could be apart from the drivers. You guys like to rate the driver independently of the car or strategy blunders so it would be fun to rate that as well.
@fallenshallrise10 ай бұрын
That would be fun. Like the driver gets a 4 out of 5 but the team gets a 1/5 for forgetting to bring the tires out or something. Or the driver gets a 1/5 for running the car off the road and getting a pit lane speeding penalty and the team gets a 5/5 for a sub 3s stop and perfect strategy call.
@martinhalaj960411 ай бұрын
At this point I belive that you are giving Fernando a point for every breath he takes in a race.
@akirasouma756110 ай бұрын
Fernando: *Breath* That's a whopping 8/10 for me!
@n00RBERGx10 ай бұрын
Oscar piastri is the first rookie in 6 years to be on the podium and still it feels like you talk about him like he is not a rookie. Is it because he is so good that you forget?
@FrancisFjordCupola10 ай бұрын
It's because rookies have been bred out of the sport. There used to be little special about rookies since most drivers just ran two or three seasons.
@henrywilliams831310 ай бұрын
He really should have two podiums this year
@jcawa-2311 ай бұрын
5 is probably the best Lance Stroll have got this season lol
@MySeLf1234511 ай бұрын
lol
@KJ2855411 ай бұрын
He was actually good at the start of the season with a few 7/8s but now he’s dropped off
@thomasvrielink29911 ай бұрын
Stroll got an 8 (Matt) and a 9 (Tommy) in Bahrain when he did that sick overtake with a broken wrist. He got another 8 from Matt in Spain and a bunch of 7s early in the season when Aston Martin still had a good car. On average, he's scored a 4.8 over the season.
@hideouspatje11 ай бұрын
@@thomasvrielink299are you a stroll fan keeping scores or do you have an amazing out of this world memory?
@soundscape2611 ай бұрын
He got a P4 in Australia... under unusual circumstances alright, but that should have earned him a 7 or something.
@plinkspot875011 ай бұрын
Sargeant is becoming a joke right now. Surely there must be a lot of money backing him from the States or else he would have been long gone
@julianschwertzthewoodlands416110 ай бұрын
Long gone? Just because RBR did RBR things with De Vries (and Kvyat. and Gasly) doesn't mean other teams are as ruthless with their drivers.
@rosco310 ай бұрын
I mean A LOT of money indeed cause his crashes are already costing $4M
@joaogabrielxavierbino382610 ай бұрын
@@julianschwertzthewoodlands4161 f1 is not a school , he is to green to f1, they are just burning him.
@rosco310 ай бұрын
@@julianschwertzthewoodlands4161RBR is the only one with money enough to do that They're the only top team with a proper sister team that they don't care (or don't until next season) finish 10th
@plinkspot875010 ай бұрын
@julianschwertzthewoodlands4161 you recon a team like Williams can afford the estimated $4M in damages, they publicly stated that their development for next year is being hampered by these costs
@EX_WIZARD11 ай бұрын
5 for Stroll? The only point i would give him is if he got out of the car and let Jessica Hawkins drive.
@scoobydoocd900710 ай бұрын
So you think lance deserves a 0 out of 10 for being 10 seconds behind alonso, then alonso must be a 2 out of 10
@justliech394810 ай бұрын
the battle between Yuki an Lawson was amazing, they battled without hitting each other, pure sport
@vincent507510 ай бұрын
Great podcast!! Matt close your door and put a nice (F1) banner or poster up
@BwInNewJersey11 ай бұрын
Perez had a bad race even if he were a rookie at Suzuka.
@gameofender446311 ай бұрын
And yet he gets the same as George in Singapore 😂.
@BwInNewJersey11 ай бұрын
@@gameofender4463 Excepting George was racing for win and Perez hit 3 cars in the best car.
@nommchompsky11 ай бұрын
Especially when a rookie who had never driven Suzuka made the podium
@soundscape2610 ай бұрын
@@nommchompsky Given Piastri's display at Suzuka and Lawson at Singapore, I wonder how much weight never having raced at a given track really carries...
@nommchompsky10 ай бұрын
@@soundscape26 True. Modern simulators with laser scanned tracks are probably huge for track knowledge
@davianglover793910 ай бұрын
Lando challenged max for 1 and a half turns. 10 is a little generous
@andrewf942310 ай бұрын
He beat his teammate by 20 seconds though
@decentish854611 ай бұрын
You guys are giving Alonso way too much credit just because he’s Alonso. Any other driver got destroyed like that in the race you’d give them a 5 or 6. Sure it’s mainly the teams fault but Alonso didn’t have a particularly impressive performance. So how do you justify such an impressive rating?
@juannacenta416111 ай бұрын
I mean that Aston it seems is nowhere near the top 4 cars, so what you expect from him more than a solid 8th
@FrancisFjordCupola10 ай бұрын
If you had listened, you would have know that the car is not as developed as other cars and therefore Alonso really had to throw his weight around and push upwards to get that result. Same thing as with Max, basically; you may have the better car, you still have to pull through and he pulled through.
@decentish854610 ай бұрын
@@FrancisFjordCupola yeah but he didn’t really push it upwards. There was nothing particularly notable or good about his performance unless you count making Q3. He still finished behind all the Red Bulls, Mclarens, Ferraris and Mercs. Which are the only cars the Aston is currently worse than.
@bullymaguire1410 ай бұрын
Bruh if he maximized everything, didn't made a single mistake, made a perfect start, if he pitted during vsc in start could have max p7. 8 is pretty good
@BlissifiedHH10 ай бұрын
No lol, its because that's where the car is atm. Alonso likely got the most out of the car since we know he can in fact do that, minimum 8 for Alonso tbh. He got the car as high as it can be
@napi110111 ай бұрын
Carlos always very good with strategies and very smart, still, it was himself that asked to stay longer on that 2nd stint
@selder_711 ай бұрын
I find it very easy to believe that Gasly burnt bridges at Redbull when you see things like his reaction at the end there. Let’s his anger out more than most
@fkez051010 ай бұрын
Well its no secret that RB didn't get on with how he worked during a race weekend and that they didn't want him back when they had a vacant seat
@soundscape2610 ай бұрын
Gasly was always a hothead.
@Hammertime440410 ай бұрын
Max is probably the most angry driver on the grid, on the radio and in person, as shown in Brazil 2018. But the difference is he’s among the best F1 drivers ever so it’s fine. Gasly is an average F1 driver so can’t get away with the tantrums
@DawidSikora11 ай бұрын
1/10 is generous for Perez, it was a solid 0/10 performance
@ThommyOcho10 ай бұрын
He made to Q3, credit where credit is due 😂
@xwhogafx81510 ай бұрын
Logan is a beast, he started losing the car kept his foot down and up shifted. Absolute animal! Pin it to win it. Colin Mcrae style
@Alex-md6bu10 ай бұрын
I feel like you’ve not really given Ferrari drivers enough responsibility for the lap 1 incident that ruins Perez race and damages hamiltons car, it was absolutely a racing incident but if you’ve had a bad start and head to the left you can be fairly sure that someone is working their way alongside….
@Tele_gram_me_mattp1tommy10 ай бұрын
Thanks for being acting on my KZfaq channel 🙏 you're selected as my winner🎁🏆🚀
@willynelson875010 ай бұрын
Oscar deserves 10/10 being a rookie. Oscar has the potential to be as great as Schumi and Lewis. Might be Max's greatest competitor in 3 years. Oscar will become the no1 driver at McLaren when settled. I called Oscar moving to McLaren 1 year before it happened, and I am sure my predictions will come true. 40 years of watching F1 helps :)
@Tele_gram_me_mattp1tommy10 ай бұрын
🎁🏆🎀🚀
@WrecklessMEDIC10 ай бұрын
I love the picture of Hamilton holding his back and giving a thumbs up! Always gives me a chuckle when I see you guys use that shot. Every...single...time....lol. 😂
@PopeCanyon11 ай бұрын
Dude, how do you rate drivers when you are not even acquainted with their strategies? Tommy didn’t even know Russell opted for his strategy and you didn’t know that until the recording? Do some research ffs
@MikeD-ej2ho10 ай бұрын
It's entertainment bud, relax.
@tomhatton251210 ай бұрын
If we changed F1s points system to top 15 gets points assuming they finish could you maybe do a video on who would have how many points? It would be interesting to see Yuki's points
@andymoss428511 ай бұрын
Lando should have got an extra 1/2 point because of his epic start into the first corner. He almost had max from p3!
@andrewhazlewood456910 ай бұрын
Part of that is Max was trying to squeeze out Piastri so he was moving sideways a fair bit instead of holding a line.
@Melbourne-s4x10 ай бұрын
Disgusting McLaren bias stinks
@Alan.livingston10 ай бұрын
Maybe he lost that 1/2 a point by getting beaten in quali.
@nakki12310 ай бұрын
Almost. But he didnt take the lead.
@RoysIdea10 ай бұрын
16:14 very strange to see Lewis get the same score as Oscar, while Oscar performed so much better. Would give Lewis a 6 this race
@kyroseven10 ай бұрын
Charles was a 9 for me, his quali was not far off the McLaren's while slapping Sainz and couldn't have got more out of the race.
@matyonsticks649110 ай бұрын
Also his overtake on Russel was amazing and he had similar pace to Piastri most of the race
@MegaClyde77711 ай бұрын
don't forget that piastri as never drive there...
@willynelson875010 ай бұрын
I obsessively follow all motor racing, and i've commented before the season started that Sergeant is going to be the new Mazepin. Easy to see in other series when a driver is not up to F1 standard.
@JMRope10 ай бұрын
How often did he crash in F2 though? Genuine question as I don't actually remember. What I do know is that he was only 1 point behind Lawson who very much looks to be up to the standard of F1 so I'm not so sure you can judge drivers by how they perform in other series.
@Surfsaus10 ай бұрын
Does Piastri need to win the race to get a 9 or 10? Pretty tough on a track he's never raced on. It's funny how everyone keeps banging on about the 17 seconds that Piastri finished behind Norris but it was likely his engineer that was telling him to race at that pace to save his tyres. There was no need to race Norris as McLaren prioritised Norris as usual. All Piastri had to do was finish in front of LeClerc which he did by 8 seconds. Too much focus on the time he finished behind Norris when that wasn't his race and he was still finishing 3rd regardless of the gap. The fact Piastri beat Norris in qualifying on a track he had never raced on showed who will be the better driver next year. Isn't Norris the highest points scorer in history without a win to his name? Would be rather awkward if Piastri beats him to a win in his first season.
@GloomGaiGar10 ай бұрын
The fact that he still needs his engineer to tell him how to manage his tires means he still has room for improvement. It's not perfect so why argue for a 10?
@ariedebruijn118910 ай бұрын
I always enjoy your channel, already when it was still called WTF!. One tiny thing though: I don't think it's necessary to mention OUT OF TEN every single time.
@danielwilliams31011 ай бұрын
How can you not give Perez a 0 for that race, it was absolutely pathetic 🤣 If he somehow manages not to come 2nd in the drivers championship in that car he should just be sacked on the spot imo
@FrancisFjordCupola10 ай бұрын
Some of it bad luck, some of it being Lewis Hamilton taking out his front wing at the start.
@Nasherwood10 ай бұрын
You mean Perez jolting to the left, pushing Lewis onto the grass and damaging his front wing as a result? I’ve seen a lot of people twisting that moment to make it sound like Lewis crashed into him, it’s crazy
@danielwilliams31010 ай бұрын
There's no way you actually think that was Hamilton's fault
@timothyward664410 ай бұрын
As a race fan, Red Bull and Max are amazing. As a Mercedes fan, man it is awesome seeing the silver arrows battle. And as a team LH Stan, I'm disappointed in George. But as a George fan. I'm just happy that F1 is in our lives.
@Tele_gram_me_mattp1tommy10 ай бұрын
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@tomn276510 ай бұрын
wow an 8 for oscar.. might be my bias but 20s behind a teammate without losing a spot doesnt seem that bad especially since he'd be keeping the wear and tear on the car down as well for future races. no point caning it to be 1s behind lando when 20 is the same result.
@remeah221110 ай бұрын
I’m sorry to tell you but it matters. In Japan McLaren pace was way higher than the other teams that’s why his position wasn’t in serious threat. And that’s why Oscar wasn’t happy with his performance because he knew if teams were closer (like hungry) he was going to lose some positions.
@JMRope10 ай бұрын
I'm also an Oscar fan but I think 8 is actually a bit generous. Considering he got lucky with the VSC and Lando got held up he was actually well off the pace. I don't think it will last though. I don't think it will be too long before Oscar is a genuine threat to Lando in races as well as qualifying.
@deporvida10 ай бұрын
I think I only disagree with the 10 for Norris, because the VSC was a huge mistake. 9 or 9.5 would be more than fair. It was an awesome race, but 10 would mean perfection. Other than that, I can pretty much agree with every other ratings. Great content guys!
@Tele_gram_me_mattp1tommy10 ай бұрын
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@leondarley281111 ай бұрын
Don't know how Lawson is supposed to do any better, the cars ahead of him are unbeatable under normal circumstances.
@FrancisFjordCupola10 ай бұрын
But that is what everyone wants from an unknown rookie; utter ruthless genius and exceeding all expectations and making the impossible possible. I think we have too few teams (should be 13 at least) and all of them holding on too hard to their current line-ups.
@Evarakeus10 ай бұрын
He was slower than Yuki in qualy and the race
@leondarley281110 ай бұрын
@@Evarakeus Liam was faster in Q1, but failed to hook up the lap in Q2, and was on pace with Yuki in the race. Everything I said is on the premise that Liam is still a rookie, who jumped in the car mid season nontheless, and the fact I rate Yuki.
@Surfsaus10 ай бұрын
A lot hype for Lawson but let's see how he goes over a full season when he gets the opportunity. The Alpha Tauri car is completely different now from the AT car that Yuki raced in for most of the season.
@Johann_Gambolputty_of_Ulm11 ай бұрын
Tommy giving Lando a 9/10, while almost every pod he is eager to give ALO 10/10 for the sole fact that he had participated in a race, is probably the most washed opinion since the invention of washing capsules. Insert "What else you want me to do" gif from American Dad
@martinhalaj960411 ай бұрын
spot on
@fkez051010 ай бұрын
its literally just for fun calm down man
@nicoh.714010 ай бұрын
Sad Lando Fan 😢
@walover16510 ай бұрын
Maybe a point off for being a whiny brat on the radio?
@gunshipzeroone354611 ай бұрын
The one we have been all waiting for at 5.25 in this video.
@diegocalatroni906210 ай бұрын
You should also add a teams ratting after every race, it would be hilarious to see you guys rating Ferrari after races like last year Monaco
@chillfish70211 ай бұрын
I clicked on this video strictly to see the Logan flaming bit. Lol
@Oscar42o11 ай бұрын
How come Zhou never gets the same excuses other drivers get?
@tom.m10 ай бұрын
Did he even get damage on lap 1? I know he had debris from another car stuck to his wing, but I must have missed it if he was in a collision as well.
@yonglizhang926310 ай бұрын
Feel the same. 5 points for 13th finish vs 5 points for DNF doesn't make any sense to me. Is this Japan GP rating or personal preference rating?
@Oscar42o10 ай бұрын
@@tom.m he had damage and had to pit.
@tom.m10 ай бұрын
@@Oscar42o He had to pit because he got showered with debris from a collision ahead and some jammed in his front wing. It was completely unavoidable and it's not clear if there was any actual damage. It doesn't look like he ever touched another car. Again, unless I've missed a bit? Seems real harsh to knock his points for it.
@justice4g10 ай бұрын
these guys never really pay attention to 90% of the drivers, they just rate them based on results
@Squiggy110 ай бұрын
You should start doing overall grades for the teams too on a scale of 1-10
@marshallmarthes10 ай бұрын
George is such a snake. He is eighth in the championship. And he is fighting like he's going for the championship Battle with Lewis Hamilton, who is clearly much better and ahead of him in the championship. What if George Russell was seventh and Lewis Hamilton was fighting for the first in championship and he would be behaving like a cry baby. And fighting his teammate the way he was is just bad Strategy and teamwork by the whole Mercedes team.
@gameofender446310 ай бұрын
What a load of delusional rubbish 😂.
@--DW10 ай бұрын
I think to be fair to Yuki, Oscar, Alonzo and some others I think the 1st pit stop undercut seemed a pretty Washed Strat. Seemed like you got track position at the cost of 20 laps going slower. The more even stints got to the finish line much quicker. The elbows out from George was great the Radio after Lewis elbowed back was weak as water. Made the wall tweet from last race really hit home
@landofantho495011 ай бұрын
Ha got it super early. I’m so glad mclaren turned their season around
@Paris_dc10 ай бұрын
So Charles in Singapore had a "bad weekend" ending p4, but for Japan, it's a good weekend with the same result because he's in front of Carlos!? Lmao
@Tele_gram_me_mattp1tommy10 ай бұрын
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@nttsight156411 ай бұрын
Did Matt really give Piastri a lower grade here than singapore?
@remeah221110 ай бұрын
Oscar race pace was so bad here. I think in Singapore without the upgrades was closer to Lando than here
@ajwasthere10 ай бұрын
He beat every car except his teammate and Max.@@remeah2211
@xXMINIJARVISXx10 ай бұрын
Love these videos but I have a suggestion: maybe rate each team as a whole over the weekend and at the end of the year you can add up all the points for drivers and constructors and make a video on who is your highest rated drivers/constructors
@chumpmu111 ай бұрын
You gave Lance a 5?! What?!!
@FrancisFjordCupola10 ай бұрын
Terrible qualifying. Unlucky race ending... but during the race he quietly did move up through the pack, taking plenty of positions. Which was good, but sadly missed by most. Then the rear wing threatening to fall of and the subsequent retirement made for a complete unremarkable day at the office.
@chumpmu110 ай бұрын
@@FrancisFjordCupola I guess I didn’t know there were real Stroll fans. That’s fair.
@Real2811 ай бұрын
How many other times have you graded with your heart for first podiums...lots. Ok, so Logan, a rookie gets a 1 for hitting 1 driver, but Checo gets a 1 for hitting TWO drivers, should be second every race??? That's a 0
@soundscape2610 ай бұрын
Logan also trashed his car in quali.
@JS-te2vj10 ай бұрын
Feel sorry for Perez. He was so instrumental in Max's championship in 2021, but now he's a meme. But yeah, if RB give Tsunoda a chance mid year in 2024, he'll be dominated by Max and RB will have a reason to get rid of him like Gasly How Max continues to evolve is insane.
@avisscher235210 ай бұрын
at 7.31 one emptyheaded says to the other, we qualify the race and not the qualification. then at 9.51 the qualifying round is recorded again by the other empty head, and then miraculously the one empty head speaks again, and yes, based on the qualifying round, a word for you. blowing tree wood. you hear something but it doesn't mean anything.
@Tele_gram_me_mattp1tommy10 ай бұрын
Thanks for being acting on my KZfaq channel 🙏 you're selected as my winner🎁🏆🚀
@__-lt4hm10 ай бұрын
Another peculiar strategy by Alpha Tauri not saving much harder tires, starting on softs, covering a HAAS at the race (knowing they will be doing 3 stops). And 10/10 for the trophie!
@Tele_gram_me_mattp1tommy10 ай бұрын
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@tsjawesome628911 ай бұрын
VER 10 PER 2 LEC 8 SAI 7 HAM 7 GR 6 ALO 7 STR 4 NOR 10 PIA 9 OCO 7 GAS 8 BOT 5 ZHO 6 HUL 5 MAG 5 TSU 7 LAW 8 ALB 5 SAR 1
@vernice447910 ай бұрын
There shld be a constructor’s ratings too… pitstop strategies and all 🤔
@PetrosTheBullet10 ай бұрын
this > power rankings
@BOBBOBBOBBOBBOBBOB6910 ай бұрын
Russell is doing the right thing on battling Hamilton, he can't let himself get into no. 2 mindset.
@gameofender446310 ай бұрын
Apparently he’s getting hated on because he was a “bad team player” 😂.
@BOBBOBBOBBOBBOBBOB6910 ай бұрын
Sounds like Lewis stans are upset.@@gameofender4463
@belladonnaRoot10 ай бұрын
Honestly, I do think it was generous to give Logan a 1. Stroll got a zero in Singapore and earned it. Logan had his worst weekend to date with double crashes. Liam. AT's probably kicking themselves right now. I don't think Yuki's the one at risk...but it's shocking that a fresh rookie can come in absolutely on par with a 3rd year driver....and they've already signed a streaky veteran that's shortly to have his second "return" this year. Perez...1 may be a tad generous. Between Japan and Singapore, there's just stupid inexcusable mistakes and a lack of pace all around. Between the two races, he has half as many penalties as he deserved, and it's still a lot of penalties. Even though the car's won 15/16 races this year, he's missed the podium half of the time. Given Liam's current performance and Perez's current performance, I know which one I'd want driving for my team next year. They're gonna try to clinch P2...but Perez making it to the end of the year is likely dependent on Hamilton's performance.
@AnotherJoe11 ай бұрын
You know what would be a good rating system? Rate the car and the driver and take the average. Might just produce interesting results.
@boxpleasebox10 ай бұрын
Yuki is pure entertainment can we have his radio on constantly during the race🏎🏎🎤🛸🧋💕🛞
@Tele_gram_me_mattp1tommy10 ай бұрын
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@Tele_gram_me_mattp1tommy10 ай бұрын
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@xtherealbasedgodx10 ай бұрын
I feel like lance was actually having a decent race, super unlucky that he had to retire cause I think he would’ve been just behind Alonso. Also I do think he is having a bad season but I still think he deserves to be on the grid. If you look over the years he has had some standouts, just lacks consistency
@bullymaguire1410 ай бұрын
Yes having a great race, I watched his onboard but yeah a bad season too. I don't think he is a f1material but anyway
@charamia940210 ай бұрын
Verstappen is an exceptional driver with and exceptional car in an exceptional team. Remove either factor, and you won't get the level of dominance he's displayed this season. I am a fan of both Gasly and Ocon, with Gasly being ever so slightly above, and I see both sides. If Gasly wasn't told they'd switch back I definately understand his frustration - keeping in mind he comes across as very emotional over the radio be it positive or negative. Still, it was the right desicion to switch them back considering Ocon had let him through voluntarily. F1 is a team sport, with egotistical (as they need to be in order to get that far in motorsport) team players, who sometimes feel unfairly treated when they are objectively not.
@davidmildon327810 ай бұрын
If you watch the slow mo of Sargeant and Bottas, he actually locked up after locking up. He locked up one of the fronts, bottas round the outside, then locked the other wheel and took bottas out
@michaelwilkie3510 ай бұрын
If Lance got a 0 for ruining only his own race weekend in Singapore, surely Perez should be no higher after ruining his, Magnusson’s & blocking Lando under the VSC, (to be fair that may have been strategy). I have to say though, him retiring, then unretiring 20-something laps later to serve a penalty then retiring again rivals Hamilton’s “by himself” race start in Hungary a few years ago.
@TheVeyron62310 ай бұрын
And after a weekend where he ruined Tsunoda and Albon's races by doing the exact same thing he did to Magnussen.
@texantactical778711 ай бұрын
Is Sargeant having a worse rookie season than Mazepin?
@whyareyoureadingmynickname815811 ай бұрын
I would honestly say yes. Mazepin was painfully slow but he didn't crash as much as Sargeant does.
@texantactical778711 ай бұрын
@@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158 I agree. And I think the team would rather have a slow weekend than one full of damage and costly repairs.
@julianschwertzthewoodlands416110 ай бұрын
He's having a terrible second half, that's for sure. I think people see Piastri and forget that it's actually normal for rookies to do rookie things like crashing. Just look at Tsunoda. He crashed a lot during his first season and was even surprised they re-signed him.
@texantactical778710 ай бұрын
@@julianschwertzthewoodlands4161 I feel like Tsunoda still had a couple of decent weekends though. Sargeant has not had a single weekend to show he deserves a seat in F1.
@conflict-tv10 ай бұрын
I reckon Yuki and Daniel staying is to pave way to get rid of Checo for Daniel, and promote Lawson into AT.
@V8VRUte10 ай бұрын
Yeah, this is EXACTLY the same I've been thinking for a few weeks now. It makes the most sense. Checo's underperforming, and needs to go, but it would be risky to put Lawson in with little experience. I just fear that it would be a repeat of Gasly and Albon, not being ready for the pressure of going up against Max. So put Danny in there to keep the seat warm, while Lawson goes in the AT for a year or 2 to get some F1 experience so he doesnt suffer the same fate of all Max's previous team mates.
@walover16510 ай бұрын
And if Perez keeps driving like this, it will happen before next season begins.
@BlissifiedHH10 ай бұрын
Its basically confirmed that this is their thinking. Danny stays in AT for 24, takes Checos seat for 25, Lawson moved into AT. Then my guess is Danny stays at RB for 2-3 seasons given I think that's about how much time he has left in the sport at that stage. Then I see Lawson taking his place and might be moving into being the No1 driver after 2028 since I think Max is leaving to do other racing categories after his contract is up
@accent166610 ай бұрын
@@walover165not likely, other than Horner insisting that Checo is staying until next year, performances like in Japan are a rarity for Checo. You can be sure that Checo will get back to the top 5 or the podium in Qatar.
@walover16510 ай бұрын
@@accent1666 Horner also said Gasly was safe and Albon was safe, too. And performances like Japan haven't been rare. Singapore and Monaco were like that too.
@coinage_x_daic11 ай бұрын
Am the only one understanding “finishing in front of the Ass’s” instead of Haas’es? Probably just me 😂😂
@noobstar999510 ай бұрын
From all us Lance fans, thank you Matt
@kaas564411 ай бұрын
Where’s the stats guy when you need him most 😭😭
@gameofender446311 ай бұрын
So Tommy thinks Checo’s weekend was as bad as George’s in Singapore? Really?
@tiebiriusg11 ай бұрын
Yup they were both bad
@gameofender446311 ай бұрын
@@tiebiriusgDifferent levels of bad. Russell tapped the wall too hard. Perez destroyed how many cars and wings in THAT car?
@soundscape2611 ай бұрын
Well, Matt gave him a 4 (I think) so better focus on the positives.
@gameofender446311 ай бұрын
@@soundscape26Yeah I’ve always respected Matt for being fairer and more objective.
@pellingjk10 ай бұрын
you're being very generous this week!
@bluechucky10 ай бұрын
You guys are always too harsh on Piastri and too soft of Norris and Lawson.
@alessandromazzini702611 ай бұрын
For tommy, the strategy Ferrari did with Carlos wasn't actually Ferrari's fault, but Carlos' because he asked to stay out more to have fresher tyres at the end
@budthecyborg457510 ай бұрын
It would be really good for F1 as a whole if Red Bull does swap their #2 driver during a dominant period, assuming Red Bull can keep winning past 2023. Whether it be Schumacher/Barichello, Vettel/Webber, or Hamilton/Bottas, all of the dominant champions settled in to driving against a passive team player, we haven't seen a rivalry between teammates since Rosberg in 2014-2016, and that was short lived.
@lluvik245010 ай бұрын
I would honestly be extremely surprised if logan stayed for 2024
@mol-o276610 ай бұрын
I would actually drop seperate ratings from you guys. I noticed once again that you echo your scores, so it would be more interesting to give a grade on average and argue out eventual modification. Some even gimmick like a Man of the Weekend +2 points, Goatifi award or whatever to spice it up if you disagree.
@Tele_gram_me_mattp1tommy10 ай бұрын
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@piak503210 ай бұрын
"5/10 for Lance Stroll. He wasn't absolutly horrendous" Gave me a good laugh. How low has the standard for Lance beccome...
@Tele_gram_me_mattp1tommy10 ай бұрын
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@nealwilliams702711 ай бұрын
Right Liam is great.....Buuut he didn't win.... Tsunoda was left out to dry on a huge long stint on the mediums, he did what 7 laps more than Lawson on the mediums, so it's Alpha Tauri's fault, And this isn't a Tsu v Law thing. All season they keep leaving Tsunoda out on the mediums for way too long, go back and watch the previous races.
@CrAzY__SaM11 ай бұрын
Video idea : u guys can do a video were u could find out were would redbull be if checo wasn't in the team and redbull just ran max only
@tak826110 ай бұрын
Plenty of other youtubers have done that already.
@CrAzY__SaM10 ай бұрын
@@tak8261 they have done one without mac or redbull i said one without checo just to se if he was actually useless in wining this championship
@tak826110 ай бұрын
@@CrAzY__SaM Not sure how that is meaningful in any way. So, RB without Checo would have 400 points, which still puts them ahead of other teams, but then other teams would have picked up more points so it might be close. So, let's say that after running the numbers, RB end up being second without Checo. Does this make Checo's contribution more meaningful or makes his performance look any better? Not really, all it shows is that, Max has been so dominant that he still almost single handedly won the title for the team, and the fact that you could probably have had Nick De Vries or Logan on that seat and RB would still have won quite comfortably. Also, I think the fundamental issue isn't necessarily about Perez's point contribution since the car is so fast that any driver should be placing P2 every race. It is the fact that, his pace is so significantly behind Max AND that he has made too many errors that, if the other teams start catching up, then Perez would start finishing much lower, and this could cost RB the championship. To put it into perspective, at Suzuka McLaren scored 33 points in total. IF Perez didn't screw up and finished P6, that would put RB at 34 points, barely beating McLaren. That kind of scenario is what RB need to be afraid of.
@abel684610 ай бұрын
Perez: minister of bumper cars.
@Zer0G10110 ай бұрын
8/10 for Oscar you are washed. He was told to let team mate past!!!! he could have kept him behind.
@slimbrady669110 ай бұрын
I still think Miami was Max's best drive of the year. This was a close 2nd tho.
@Tele_gram_me_mattp1tommy10 ай бұрын
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@alastairjones011 ай бұрын
Nico was ahead of Mag on track before the first stops and Mag getting attacked by Perez.
@rickinielsen110 ай бұрын
Yes, but only because KMag got held up behind that 3-way bump down towards turn 1. He lost about 4 positions on that because he had nowhere to go. I honestly don’t think Nico deserved a 5, because he still only ended up just ahead of KMag despite KMag losing so much time and many positions twice...
@johart30910 ай бұрын
Checo should have gotten a 0. Also Im glad someone finally noticed, that GR asked for the one stopper himself, he just tried to be greedy
@gameofender446310 ай бұрын
How’s it greedy? 😂. The team had already thought about it before the race 😂
@Delenklint10 ай бұрын
Are you both drunk when you are doing these ratings? 6 for KMag for finishing last? 5 for Stroll for having a single good lap (first one) in like 14 races, 6 for bottas who had a miserable quali and never got to show anything in the race? Oscar 8/!0 is a good example of a good rating without putting to much heart in it. He did great, first podium and all, but as he have said himself, need to learn how to manage the tires in different stints. And also, perez gets the same score as george in singapore? C'mon!! And yes, I'm a Red Bull fan. George did NOT deserve anything less than a 5 last race, Checko deserved a frickin 0 this race! Ps. I'd also drop Chucky from 9 to 8 and boost Sainz from 7 to 8 purely because he was so utterly shafted by pitstop strategy.