Man... THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH!! I was looking for a little business to make a living for myself, was thinking about buying this... Saved me $$$$$!!

For all the CM Labs employees (whether being directed by your leadership or not) who are commenting and/or disliking our videos now. 1) We are not questioning you believe you make a good product and have plenty of customers who would agree....we are just stating we are not one of them. Instead of getting angry at the messenger maybe focus that energy on trying to keep this from happening again. If you think ANY of this information is false by all means reach out either publicly or in private and we can clarify any of it. 2) Many CM Labs employees have no idea how we were treated by your senior leaders. It was very clear they (well ONE for sure) only cared about the dollar and not about doing what is right. Again, if you want more details feel free to reach out directly and we have no problem sharing more about our experience. 3) Thank you for the extra engagement on our videos, fortunately ANY activity on a video is great for our channel so keep up the dislikes on this. Funny how we had none on this video when the first CM Lab person commented (then they deleted their comment) and now we have 12+ dislikes on the video.

Please make a review of Tenstar Simulation :)

Thanks for sharing an honest review!

I got a CM Labs desktop simulator in 2009, and it's still working no issues...

Thank you for this review. Have these issues been resolved in any manner? A local company is considering a purchase and any advice would help.

Counter point... I have one unit, I've had a really good experience with CMLabs. They did a massive software update some time last year that really improved... everything. I noticed you were running the older software. I had my hard drives replaced but I didn't have any problems prior. But to be fair I currently have a bad software issue on the dozer sim after another software update. We left the old software on the computer though for a trial period to make sure there were no bugs. So even though I have a problem with the new version... I can run the older version fine while they fix it. But that's strange... I only have the one machine, but I've had a great experience with them. I would agree that the yearly "subscription" sucks. But I only have the one... so it's not really that bad. And when they did the massive update on my machine I kind of saw the purpose of the subscription. So... not trying to be a hater, just wanted to give a counter point. I've faired well with CMLabs.

Is the desktop program available to the average person? I just want something fun to practice and mess around with lol.

How much is this to buy and how do you purchase it , I am looking for just the software and joysticks , how much are they and do they sell there products to the average person ?

Thats crazy. I was running equipment and cant now due to health reason so i set up with my wifes computer and a couple screens set of joysticks and farming simulator game. I have about $1,500.00 in everything and i honestly get the same feel as i have on the actual equipment minus the vibrations. I can dig with escavator, loader dumptruck even logging!. I programmed all the joystick functions as they are for each equipment. The simulator game is garunteed from were we bought it and they fix whatever needs to be fixed. Screens and joysticks for waruntee and accident insuramce and all through wallmart. Wifes computer is full warantee.......they even moitor them and advize us of issues if need be. Sorry you had that problem. Thats just sick what they did to you.

Is this game for free?

90 k is not worth it lol

Shame on CM labs!😡 I thought they are good company and I was going to buy one of those units. Hell No I am gonna do that after seeing of how they full customers around. Shame on CM labs and for a god sake Go OUt of business!

what a horror story. they are even using the unreal engine, one of the best video game engines out there. Given the capabilities of that engine, the simulator looks like crap, let alone behaves quite poorly. But the worse part is their service model.

So far 10 minutes in, you guys have only complained about 3 issues with the company, Pricing, Charging for unnecessary things, and Support. The rest from what I can see you guys are blaming them for either Hardware or Software that they are taking advantage of to create the simulation. The SSD failing isn't really on them however they should have tested the simulator more before shipping it out, as for the bug in the simulator with the lines that's a GPU Rendering error that was fixed roughly 2 weeks after the video was uploaded. I'm not even going to bother watching the rest of the video because I know what you guys will say past this. The Blue screen issue and such really is not an issue that is caused because of their design, it's just the hardware they're using fails. That's common within the Computer world as well as the Heavy Machine world. Nothing is 100% Reliable and sometimes you get a Hitachi and sometimes you get a cat if that makes any sense to you guys. In conclusion, their support and pricing should be better however you guys should be more open-minded toward who's at fault for what as in the video you're fully pushing the blame onto Vortex and not the hardware. Have a blessed day and please understand I'm not hating I'm just trying to make you a little more aware.