This doesn’t read well with me. You’re on video saying you took what others did as add ons, combined them, and patented it. You say you’d have preferred communication but when Vendetta reached out to you to open a dialogue he was threatened legally. The words you’re reading say one thing but your actions say differently. Yall can do better!

How could we make this worse ? Hold my beer

PRx won't be getting any of my business.

This is an interesting response fellas.

This response lacked class. It wasn't a clickbait video from Kyle. It was a guy from the community expressing his frustrations, not someone fishing for views. Also, rehearse the damn thing instead of reading from a screen that has probably got some script written by your legal team on it.

Anyone else feeling a nice PRx blacklist in the home gym community? 🤔

Oh boy… 😂😂😂 You can’t push this foot any deeper in your mouth you know?

Whoever advised you that this was the best way to perform damage control is not doing you a service. If you want a good example of how to handle situations like this, look at how Rogue handled its dip attachment situation with Mutant Metals. Reciting the particulars of your patent application in a statement read off a screen - and wishing your “competitors” the best of luck - misreads the situation. Kaizen isn’t just a “competitor.” He is a respected member of the garage gym community and a big part of its DIY ethos. Dismissing him as a “click baiting” KZfaqr shows that you are out of touch.

Lol fuck PRX, your third string company will go down for this.😅

So theoretically if KaizenxGymPin & Vendetta worked together with a manufacturer on a fully assembled lever arm that leverages both of their products, you’re not going to try and shut it down? Your patent abstract is a follows: “A lever arm and method of use are disclosed herein. An example lever arm includes a translatable positioning assembly having a handle assembly having a trigger lock, the handle assembly being configured to engage with a frame member of a rack in such a way that the handle assembly can be selectively positioned along the frame member. The trigger lock is configured to engage with one of a first plurality of apertures of the frame member when a desired position for the translatable positioning assembly is selected. An armature that is pivotably coupled to the handle assembly in such a way that the armature can pivot in a first plane. The armature is configured to pivot in a second plane. The lever arm includes a first guide that is rotatably coupled ot an end of the armature to allow the first guide to swivel.”

Yall should have used a teleprompter to read what the lawyers wrote for you

Im interested to see how much the sales will decrease after this video 🤷🏻‍♂️

So yall decided to double down instead of listening to the community

If doing the right thing is ripping off other peoples products and parenting them then yeah you guys seem dedicated to doing the right thing.

Oof this is worse than I thought it was going to be. Hard pass on PRX products for us.

Very disappointed to see this kind of scripted and insincere response. The tone of their message and their demeanor and facial expression say it all. That speaks louder volumes and it comes across as a middle finger to the viewers and small businessss.

This comes across like hostage video. Blink twice if you guys need help!!

😂 PRX just died

Well your shark tank journey has come full circle, you are now the shark, congrats on forgetting where you came from.

Worst statement ever. Bad energy. For sure will not support this company.

Is this an SNL skit?

Well this told us nothing. What have they actually patented?

"Yeah, we did it, but we are just like you. Hell, I made my own deadlift platform like a peasant." Will Halo V2 rip off Crandall Fitness by adding the ability to lock the arms on a converging plain?

I would NEVER spend a dime to purchase ANYTHING with the PRx name on it ✌

Thanks for the meme content PRX…. No one likes a douche

Yall are gonna be thinking “wow, that was a mistake” in the near future

Hopefully you weren't counting on the home gym community for your growth cause it ain't happening after this.

You just lost your whole demographic with this response ... first step to downfall 👏👏

PRX is just on a downhill slide. There whole thing is foldable racks and Rogue does it with better quality at same price point. Not sure why anyone bothers with them anymore

Wtf

I will no longer put PRX in any of my gyms. This is not the way to do things. Very difficult to come back from, what were you thinking?

You’re the reason people hate larger businesses.

nope, I will not buy anything PRx

That is a weak response in my opinion. You guys got caught trying to rip off smaller guys/companies that don’t have the $$$ your company does. I will not support PrX until you do right by the companies you screwed.

If your goal was to seem condescending, slimy, and disingenuous you succeeded. Corporate greed at its best.

No PRX products will be in my gym

Could you all make reading from a script any more obvious. 😅

This is a response to something, but it’s not a response to what y’all have done. This doesn’t serve the home gym community, it only serves your lawyers recommendations. You still have time to truly make this right. And until you do, I’ll be sure to never buy or recommend a PRx product.

Good lord this was cringy. Memorize a script next time? Lost respect for this company.

Not cool, PRX. Not getting equipment from your company.

I have experience with patents. I hear what they're saying. Everything they said is correct, though tone deaf. But, BOOM. There. It just happened. This sort of "Just different enough to patent" business practice just DESTROYED innovation by the guys who create, give, share and price for value, like Kaizen and other small shops. Everyone is going to be looking over their shoulder, hoping someone doesn't steal their work. Rogue did it to Kabuki, too. But Rogue had the chops to distribute for Kabuki, too.

Glad I never got PRX products and I definitely never will. This is appalling.

Sad just because you CAN get away with this doesn't make it right. I always thought Mr. Wonderful had business morals he obviously was aware what you guys did and supports it. Most real gym owners would rather get real equipment like Rogue or REP Fitness. FB Marketplace and Craigslist are chock full of people who hated their jammer arms and are desperately trying to sell them. You should have watched video before uploading SHAME is all over both of your faces.

How is this supporting the Home Gym Community??? How is this respecting your competitors??? How? Please explain how... I'm sincerely trying to understand how or why anything you've said benefits anyone but YOU PRX. Would it hurt for you to collaborate with Vendetta or GymPin or DIY Kaizen? This is clearly profits over community from what I am hearing. I sincerely would love for anyone to explain to me how this benefits anyone but them, and why they can't or shouldn't work with their smaller competition (other than for profits for themselves).

Lame reply, on that note just ordered some Vendetta adapters for my Rep lever arms. Supporting a small business and supporting a large business like Rep (that actually works with creators and customers). The home gym community was forged and built by KZfaq, the hobby has grown from KZfaq. By not supporting KZfaq creators and inventors you alienate the very clientele you hope to have. Even Rogue isnt that ruthless. If you want to make your mark in the home gym community you need more than just a great product you need to work with the community. It just does not sit well.

This comes across very much as a corporate response that will not this to rest. Had even PRx simply used teleprompters and recorded this in a brighter lite room that came off friendly that would have been better. It’s not just how you say something, but the environment and body language that count. I’m going to bet this will slightly impact brand loyalty

The fact that you're reading a prepared statement from your lawyers sends a clear message to the community you’re trying to appeal to: you already believe you did something wrong. From my perspective as an average Joe doing some internet sleuthing, it seems likely that legally, you haven't done anything wrong. I'm sure the PRX team shares this view. However, the way you've handled this situation is akin to taking some shovels and digging your own hole. This goes beyond some random product release now and opens up you guys to the community questioning your integrity instead. Also, I'm no lawyer but if I was.... After the initial response from the community, I would have told you to not even bat an eye and to let it simmer down rather than pour more gas over the fire. So maybe consider better legal counsel. My rate is $ 1,499.99 plus tax.

Glad I bought my equipment from rogue back in the pandemic. I really considered this company in the beginning. PRX does not care about the home gym community.

Kinda pointless for me, you never released the pulley option with these arms which would have made them unique, and then you charged $1500 with what did roll out. How good is the patent if no one is going to pay that much for these arms to begin with.

I've been in the home gym space for over a decade. I will NEVER purchase a prx product and I will now actively recommend that people AVOID your products from here on out. Be better.

You don’t value collaboration. You value your patents, defending patents against small businesses and your sales. Boycott PRx until they have noticeable deficits in quarters 3 & 4. Return any PRx products no matter condition or date purchased.

Don't buy anything from PRx is what you're trying to tell me.

After watching all these rep videos where they’re obviously not reading from a script this is pretty funny 😂

Kind of weird to read off a laptop guys

Over recent years I'd gotten used to bigger companies in the homegym space owning their mistakes and trying to make them right. I expected that from y'all. You're not losing much from my continuing to not purchase anything from you, but previously it had been because I wasn't really aware of your catalogue. Now it's because I disavow your business tactics. PRx is shitting the bed and I struggle to imagine that the company will be able to easily wash away the stink that you're presently cultivating.

Yeah PRX is officially off my list.

How could the PRX team watch this and actually post it. Lmao the title just states “Our response…”

Huh, the choice words towards the end really solidified my perception of you all. I was actually considering PRX to replace my Rogue setup too. Guess REP it is!

This was hard to watch guys. If REP Fitness can collaborate with Pepin to give home gym owners what they’re asking for, why can’t you? Is it not as profitable enough? PRX this is unethical business practice and at what cost??? You say you are for the home gym community but do this BS. As a home gym owner I will NOT be endorsing or promoting your business or any of your products. 👎🏼

Wow just wow. Guys look at other companies in other industries. This approach never ends good. Personally glad I sold my PRX rack and now have a Rep rack. Won't be looking at PRX in the future. Mr Wonderful might be rich but the guy is a jerk. Find a better business mentor.

I bought exercise equipment from PrX before, but never again. Frankly, I don't respect or trust PrX because of this controversy.

Video response written by their lawyers. Classless response - what you say is different than how you say it. The final points were not in any way respectful and in fact was the opposite. Argumentative, abrupt and forceful. The tonality of the whole video showed that you didn’t give a shit. Would never and will never order from PRX. When i build facilities and outfit my own studio I use the best. You are not even close to the best but you are acting like a company who operated like any corporate entity. This was a sad tactic. It is responses like this that kill the spirit of entrepreneurship. Hiding behind lawyers and not doing what is right. So you requested for Kaizen not to release the podcast and Kaizen respected that and this was your response?

Imagine ever buying shit from prx 😵‍💫

Should have said “we are here to put out the best products to as many customers as possible and we made a decision to set our selves ahead of our competition etc” and shown off how superior their capabilities are. instead we got 2 non lifters reading word docs that sound worse than AI

This was hard to watch. Read a script the whole time. Not a good look. Lost my support

Just an awful look from PRX. I will never support them now.

Your rhetorical argument is not persuasive. Your presentation sounds insincere because it sounds like you are reading from a script.

You made it worse. We have seen with our eyes that you stole the design. This video only solidified that you see nothing wrong with what you did.

Ouch.

Not an ideal response. If I were you, I would sit down with the concerned parties and work it out. Then you can all make a video together where you appear more human.

Yikes, lmao.

Oof.

Here's the thing. A lot of the design looks like it was taken from other options on the market and put together as a single unit. It was even stated in another video that was what you did. Ok so be it. There is only so much to be done with any gym equipment and every idea gets stolen or remade at some point. I get it. BUT to come out with this video, not even crack a smile, not address it in a more friendly manner, and basically be like F off is not a good look. This video makes it seem like your plan was a malicious attack on other people's products to make money. I get it you're "Not KZfaqrs". Great don't act like one. Just be genuine instead. Talk from the heart and explain the situation. Do the exact opposite of what this video is. BTW, I think the Halo Arms are cool. The price is a little steep IMO but I think the variety of exercises that can be done and an all-in-one unit is a win.

You guys should be ashamed. I can't believe that's the best you could come up with. Everything about this is bad and looks bad. I won't ever buy or recommend any of your products to anyone.

Cringe. Classless. Glad I went with Bridgebuilt for my folding rack.

Well I know I'll never buy a PRx product after this unethical move. I don't care what your motives were when the end result is completely underhanded and shady and worse of all hurts the innovation and creativity from the community you claim to care about. What a shame

PRX take ideas then then has this trashy response 😂 well glad they lost many customers

won't ever buy from this company. Thanks for the comical video though. whoever said this looks like a hostage video nailed it

Terrible response...no thanks. I will buy from Rogue, Rep, etc. PRX is not an option for me anymore.

Is it PRX from Valorant xd

Looks like you did

😂

You guys couldve at least practiced this so it didnt look so fuckin scripted. Big yikes

Shame on you.

I dont think patenting others good idea, is the “best-to-go-solution”.. also wonder why you guys withdraw your wall mounted reverse hyper (that was actually something new and exiting, and perhaps it would be stuff like that that would giev prx some greater value). with that beeing said, isnt homegym development not a pretty identical business across the board?, whit alot of equiment beeing done by multible of companies. I dont think the big company vs. The one guy show, is pretty but if the product is more streamlined and improved i do however salute that progress in developement overall, and i dont think that to much, “not stepping on others toes”, is actually the the best in every situation. If this new prx is an overall improvement, i welcome it, and perhaps, it will make the former kings rise again, and we will see future progression in superior design. And so humanity will win, and strenght will have better circumstances. ✌️✌️.. conclusion…. If prx managed to put thes best of both gympin/kaizer and vendetta etc into one design.. i think it has its rightfullplace, and this is how progression is made.

Ass---...Boycott PRX

lol what a horrible response

Disgusting!

This reminded me of the movie Flash of Genius. In a sense, Vendetta, PRx, and Kaizen are competitors.

You guys stink at apologizing.

Just ordered mine, and if there is one of me , than there is many 🤷🏾

Good response message. Probably should’ve invested in a teleprompter, but good message nonetheless.