My favorite part 😂

Trying to figure this out for my band - if we build one of these, are we expected to roll up with mics and everything, or is the idea that the FOH sound engineer will be micing everything up and plugging into our system? Trying to figure out if I should invest in a big system like this or just a wireless IEM system that goes right from the sound person

@Noah Weinstein If you're playing at normal venues then you don't need to have it all (might be different if you're doing weddings or something). If you're typically showing up to shows and the sound engineer is running your stage monitors, then you can just buy each band member a unit and the sound engineer will literally just unplug their monitor send and plug it into your IEM unit. Very important though, make sure the venue/engineer knows BEFORE the show that you're using IEMs. Can be a massive headache if you don't tell them until soundcheck

@Noah Weinstein In other words, no you shouldn't need mics and cables and all that.

@@demontrav1918 That's so helpful thank you so much! Now I just have to decide if we should build a whole rig (splitting the signal and all) or if we just wanna get the wireless IEMs that the engineer can just send mixes out to... any thoughts?

@Noah Weinstein I don't recommend investing in the whole rig unless you have someone with the experience to operate it because an engineer is gonna expect you to be the expert on your gear. Buying an IEM unit for each band member is a good bet

Thank you dude! We actually had a spreadsheet of alllll of these exact parts written down since about 2018, this has been a huge goal of ours for the longest. Every sound guy thanks us for making their lives easy lol

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It’s comin’ soon 😈

You definitely should! There's always new things to learn about different setups, it's truly a never ending quest for the perfect gear >.>

Thanks dude! So glad to hear that this helps y’all, it’s been so helpful for us but every now and again we’ll run into a sound guy who isn’t really up to speed with these types of things which is always a bummer

@@ENOXbandthose are a dying breed. Sound guys who are against or combative over in-ear rigs are just guys who didn’t keep up with life.

Thanks Brian! We’ve been planning this out for years and now that touring is back we finally got to pull the trigger on this upgrade, but I’m sure as time goes on we’ll keep tinkering away at it with more improvements

Thank you! We sure hope so lol

Hopefully soon! We have been slacking on the videos recently due to recording, but it’s on our to do list. My goal is before this upcoming tour

We’ll do it just for u

​@@ENOXband Where's it at!? My band is coming sidelong dropping the half stacks and running amp sims and I can't find any more examples of people doing it like you. Please post it!!

Fingers crossed but so far no issues! It’s worked perfectly all year for us across several tour. We were pretty worried about those possibilities but it’s been exactly as stable as we hoped

Glad you like it!

Not enough outs/aux outs on the X32 (considering stereo mixes, all our guitar lines and DI lines), so we needed additional outs and ins for our setup!

@@michaelguevarez Yeah with the laptop running the amp sims your mileage may vary. I'm using a Helix Rack with can fortunately output the guitar and bass to both the X32 and the FOH patchbary simultaneously using the XLR, 1/4, and separate 1/4 "Send" outputs. I have a couple Sends available so I'm experimenting going to guitar/ bass cabinets like you're doing. I can drop the Send blocks in the patch before the cab sim, which is at the end. I'm using 10 outs for the stereo monitor mix and have 4 Aux outs still available to pass through the keyboard and backing tracks from the USB outputs. Everything else is going through a splitter or it's own separate outs to the FOH patchbay.

If you insist 👉🏻👈🏻🥰

Unless you’re linking mixers, they would need to apply phantom on their end! Have had few moments where FOH saw our tom mics quiet until they turned phantom on their end.

We’re gonna get that video put together as soon as our bassist gets back from tour! It’s on the top of our shooting list

It’s ok, next stop 6,900!

Haha yessss, that and guitar preamps. Also a digital snake is probably on the menu eventually too, the gear quest is never truly finished 🥵🥵

Honestly the majority of sound guys have really appreciated how much less work it makes. It’s really quick to plug and unplug tails when they are organized and marked, and they don’t have to worry about repositioning mics or if bands are using different cabinets etc. We bring our own mics so that’s all ready and plugged in side stage before we go on, so all we have to do is carry on drums, position our rack and run those few lines ourselves. it’s very important for us to make sure we are all really quick with the load on and off, and it can definitely be a lot to learn but once your band is all on the same page and everybody knows their role in setup it goes incredibly smoothly.

Fingers crossed, but so far no CPU issues! We are in a 2019 MacBook Pro, just before the m1 came out so i was a little worried but it’s been perfect, not a single dropout in practice or live so far. I have seen people talking about having issues with logic on an m1 though, so maybe we got lucky having to buy early.

Overall, glitches have been getting fewer and far between. If you can survive on your intel for another year or two, I bet all the kinks will be worked out. Thanks for the reply!

So far zero issues! We’ve used the same splitter snake for over a year now and taken it across the country and it’s been great. I’m sure there are better ones, but this thing has been an absolute workhorse for us. No complaints

We haven’t looked into the Behringer though to be honest, so if it’s as good or better for cheaper than that’s probably the best choice. This one works really well for us though so we probably won’t upgrade or tinker with it until we do a huge overhaul in the coming years

We use the focusrite bc we ran out of inputs on the x32 😅

Unfortunately I'm pretty sure it only works with the shure combiner. Each antenna combiner has its own antenna or range or antennas that work with it. For what it's worth, we deal with interference issues ourselves from time to time, depending on the venue/city/amount of radio frequencies bouncing in the room that day, and there are definitely better combiner systems on the market than what we have but ours works pretty well most of the time for us and the price was right.

So the focustrite is connected via usb to the computer to get tracks/samples/guitar tones, but everything that comes out of it is in audio form so we are running the 1/4th inch outs from our focusrite into our splitter snake, which passes it through to both front of house and into our ears. The x32 isn’t usb connected into anything, it’s just standing alone receiving all the audio lines

Doesn’t the X32 also have an interface function? Was wondering what the Focusrite does in your rig in the first place as its function could theoretically also be taken over by the Behringer? Thanks for any comment!

We're gonna do a video about our guitar routing soon, but at the moment we are not running wireless. We plug our guitars into the scarlet and have them routed out of the back of it running neural with cabsims into our ears on one side of the split and into power amps with no cab sim enabled from the other line

Well, it’s cheap lol. We have only had to replace it once, so for the money we have definitely gotten more than enough mileage out of it! Price was the main reason for this choice, but honestly I haven’t looked into splitters since we built the rig. I’ll try to remember to ask Mike what he thinks about it when i get home today

Well damn, now we GOTTA! Coming soon

We needed more inputs lol. If you don’t need as many inputs as us the x32 will do the same thing

Once they understand how easy it makes it for them they’re stoked. Some sound guys have been worried about changeover times but we are super fast with it and typically end up standing around onstage waiting for the sound to be ready to check for a few minutes.

We’ve only had issues once, and that was due to our computer overheating (we were in Florida AND our computer is a model that has heat issues). If you have any sort of recent Mack book (m1/m2 processor) you should have no issues, as they run much cooler.

Thanks homie! Yeah, just hit us up if you’ve got more questions, or post them here bc we are always lookin for more video ideas that people want to see

We’re working on the guitar video right now! It’s long overdue lol, but we are gonna get it out as soon as we can. So we do have a 5th wireless pack, but when we bought the system there were tons of supply shortages so our drummer had to get a different unit and it didn’t attach to the rest of ours, so we ended up putting it on the rear rack at the very bottom just in top of our rack drawer. We actually just redid the whole rack and moved some stuff around, so we’ll be making a new video on that soon too. As far as the outputs, there are 8 xlr outputs on the x32 as well so we are using all of those and then we use 2 aux outputs for those final 2 lines.

We’re gonna make a video about that soon, but the short answer is we run them through our scarlet into neural dsp plugins

That’s deff an upgrade we’d like to do in the future, but so far we have been fortunate enough to barely have any sort of interference issues over the past 3 years with this rig, even on shows with multiple other bands on wireless setups. Fingers crossed lol

The boys

No stops! Once we hit play on our session toy runs from front to back unless we manually stop it. We have all the songs in the same session with interludes and all that stuff in between so we only stop playback if there’s some sort of issue. Thanks for watching!

@@ENOXband That's awesome! Thanks for the reply! Awesome channel and keep up the good work!

He’s also got a set of wireless in ears, we just have his transmitter in the back of the rack bc we ran out of space. We’ve considered using a hard line for him but it’s just so much easier to set things up on stage without having to make sure the rack is next to drums

The main reason is that we just ran out of outputs on our x32. We’re gonna be making the neural dsp plug-in live video soon and that might help explain more of why we had to make certain decisions

I don't fully get why you need a focusrite 1820 if you have x32 :/

I was just telling Michael we need to make that! We’ve been super busy with the new music/videos/release stuff but we want to get it done before we leave for tour. and lol we feeeel you on the money for toys. We got ours on credit and just finished paying stuff off, it was a big investment overall but it’s been essential to our touring over the last year. -Roy Tech reply from Michael: you could definitely use an x18 but you’ll be limited on your inputs. We use an x32 bc it does everything and we need the mixing capabilities as well as the lots of inputs and outputs. We have a ton of outputs bc we run everybody on an individual stereo mix for ears, so that’s 10 outputs right there. The focusrite is bc we need even more outputs, we run guitars with cab sims to our ears/front of house but also have additional no cab sim lines to send to our power amps when we do use cabs live as well.

Thx for the reply! All clear :) Maybe just one q before the next vid :P Looking from a perspective of a band who's just starting to rise ranks - You guys carry all your stuff with you. I'm just hearing you say how you set your own mics for drums every single time, probably have to change all mics which messes up cables on the stage and the FOH engineers setup for other bands playing... any advice how to approach that? E.g. we're the 2nd of 4 bands that night. We're the only ones that have to do this activity mid-bands. Any tips how to do that?

That’s a great idea! Also a hilarious one, because Michael is a pro tools guy and logic gets him so frustrated.

@@ENOXband lmao :D so , do you have a project file for the whole set or you guys have to change manually from project to project for every song?

The whole set is one project file. Once we hit play everything just goes from there and we don’t have to mess with anything. Guitar patches are midi automated as well, so there’s nothing for us to worry about except playing a solid show

Do you also have "Hail Mary" patches between each song in case something goes wrong?

The splitter? It’s honestly been great, just plug and play. We have had no issues with it, it’s been going a year strong now.

It is an OSP rack case, and we have the shock mounted version. The racks are 28 inches in total interior height and the rack without the lids is 12 inches deep. The lids are 3.5 inches each, with about 3 inches of clearance so you can still stick 14 inch units like axe fx's in it comfortably. If you're building a rig for your band though I wouldn't worry about a brand of case so much as just figuring out exactly what amount of space you need for your build. Things that I think matter aside from the measurements are shock mounting to protect your expensive stuff, and also really good wheels and handles. Once you've mapped out exactly what you want to store inside your rack I'd recommend checking local fb marketplaces/craigslist type websites and asking around with your music friends. That's how we found this one and it was a major help in overcoming the costs of the rig.

In Neural you can use 2 cabs at the same time. You can also Pan them do each channel (L+R) so you can turn off IR on one side and use any IR you want on the other.

So on each channel on the x32 (kick, snare, guitar etc) has channel sends and we bus them off through the lines out the back of the x32 into each in ear system

@@ENOXband Sick, I'll give it a try. Appreciate the response! The vid has helped tremendously, by the way. Super stoked to see an in-depth look at the guitars! 🤙🏻

You would take the outputs that we have from the x32 and run them into your headphone amp ins instead of the transmitter ins.

Lol but we’re wrecked if that happens no matter what. At least we got our trusty power conditioner!

Well we did have to replace it once, but our first one lasted us almost 2 years and they honestly sound fine. It’s a budget piece that if you had the funds to upgrade would probably help things, but it certainty isn’t hurting our quality and for the price it’s unbeatable.

@@ENOXband Thanks! I do see that it’s a budget item. If it last for more than two years, it should be well worth it. What is it that failed on your first splitter?

Hey you dropped this

We are using 1/4 to xlr TRS cables I believe, I’ll double check with Mike about this tomorrow if i remember. If i don’t, hit us back and make us remember 😅

@@ENOXband okay, will do. Thanks brother, much appreciated.

We can neither confirm nor deny the size of our balls, but so far it’s been smooth sailing! Our axe fx’s were actually giving us more instability than neural has. Fingers crossed but it’s been going great so far, we’ve done more than a full tour with it with no issues

It doesn’t have enough outputs for our setup because we are running our ears in stereo

I'll check when I get home next week, but honestly I'm pretty sure we just got the most basic linksys router to save $$. We haven't had any issues with it aside from setup being a little annoying, but that's any router.

Roy here, I’ll have to ask Michael when I get back from this tour I’m filling in on but i believe it’s because we ran out of outputs from the x32 since we run all our in ear mixes as individual stereo. We’re gonna be making updated rig/guitar rig videos very soon

That video is in the works right now actually! Not sure the eta but it’s definitely in the pipeline

Behringer X32 is the wifi rack

It’s a 3u, which worked out to fit 2 layers of foam from Amazon into it perfectly.

@@ENOXband thanks I'll look more into it :)

We hope it helps! If you’ve got any questions let us know, we’ll try to steer you in the right direction

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So glad you enjoyed it dude! For hardware we have a 2019 MacBook Pro 16 inch, pretty sure it’s an i9. From what i hear m1/m2 is even better, but even with a few years on our laptop it hasn’t had a single issue.

Latency issues is a computer thing. Make sure the specs are up for the job. The new m1/m2 are incredibly efficient!! And this is coming from someone who has never bought an apple product until the m1 came out. Literally just about a month ago. CAN NOT beat it!!

@@warrenroberts1912 One word or rather DAW... Pro Tools

@@ENOXband Thanks the response! Means a lot but as an "asshole" meant audio interface by hardward or it all down to the BRUTE STRENGTH of the Focusrite (vox) and Behringer drums, with guitars D/I? Hahahahaha as mentioned below, the m1 is bloody fantastic! Except all that processing power is somewhat wasted on Pro Tools... RAM 64gb recommend of the stuff because you know us AVID kids are toooooooo kool Logic

Lol I feel ya, it's a little complicated but it makes a lot more sense once you start physically putting it together and figuring out routing and stuff. It just takes a little bit of work

We never said cheap lmao. It costs a lot but for the price (and split among a band) this is one of the more optimized bang for your buck in ear setups that we have seen

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Ask and ye shall receive! Coming soon

Actually we have not, but sometimes the house will use the same kick mic so we might use that if it makes things easier for them. In our experience though it’s less work for them to worry about since we do all the mic and cable setup, and they appreciate that

It’s simple to use once it’s all plugged in 😅 It does have a lot going on though.

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Deff not a stupid question! Yeah, the xlr lines that come out of the splitter that we send to the house. Tbh I’m not sure why they’re called tails lol