lmao

I think it's just because they believe in making deals and holding their end of the bargain. Easier to be a good deal maker then a rampant backstabber.

I just had a thought... Keeping in mind your point, IF kuma's destination was egg head and he SEES bonney again. Wont that be breaking the deal? I just thought this would add even more tension to their already intense situation.

It could be just reputation. Meaning that if you're famous for "making deals" only to alter them when you want, no one is gonna make any type of deal with you ;)

He's keeping his word because he can't step lower than an insect that keeps its word. In the end, I believe his superiority complex will be his downfall 🫡

​@@deaconstjohn4842 the problem is that most people in the word don't even know the gorosei existed, he isn't a famous dealmaker, he is just a devil that ended up making a deal no one knows about, unless stella just start screaming "THIS GUY BROKE A DEAL DON'T DEAL WITH THE DEVIL" no one there would know.

Grand Fleet of Sunny GO .

“THE NUMBERS MASON!”

@@TricksterEra "WHAT DO THEY MEAN?!"

It would be INSANE, if Sunny ends up some how ending the fruit, and then they can basically just teleport anywhere.

So the ship is gonna eat kuma's devil fruit. Honestly, that would make a lot of sense and be perfectly inline with onepiece.

Wait when does robin do that I missed it

came to say this exactly

@@santiagosenoran1217 Robin eavesdrops on Sanji interrogating the Lola Pirates' crewmembers about what happened. This is after Sanji woke up from being knocked out by Zoro right before "Nothing happened." But if I recall correctly it's before the post-arc party scene where Brook sings Bink's Sake.

@@stark5270 merry christmas!

I just commented this only to scroll down and see your comment 🤣 I’m glad I’m not the only one who remembers.

agreed,but that would put her and Kuma in COnstant danger unless they join the Revolutionaries

​@@Johndoe-ri9inKuma would explode when he returned to base. Hence the "self-destruct"

he has a bomb in his chest, he is still gonna die at some point in this arc Issac Netero style

no, that contradicts what we know about his bubbles. You're forgetting those memories are in bonnie now and kuma could just push them back out of her if he wanted.

If Saturn dies by the bomb set on Kuma, it'll be ironic.

Oh yeah,I forgot about Robin using her ears

Yeah but they dont necessarily know exactly what that nothing is that didn't happen.

​@@Eranellthats brilliant

I think he's talking about Kuma's memories as a whole. How it was edited made it seem like he was referring to only Zoro's 'nothing happened' moment, when he was using it as a transition into the wider topic

OMG ! You're right! I too forgot about Lola Crewmember 1 and Lola Crewmember 2 but they came to my memory as soon as I read you

It happened on punk hazard lol

​@@bluntslt8023no it didn't

​@@etlonjonhhe meant the devil fruit that killed that gas df user's pet with an axolotl or salamander fruit

@@RizzlerJones Smileys devil fruit reincarnated into an apple in a basket and was buried under the snow. I assume he's referring to the popular theory that when Monet was killed by Zoro her Snow Logia (which I believe is a tangerine) reincarnated on Namis trees. Some one piece theories have gotten so much traction people will just state them as if they're canon.

5+6 and 2+9 are both 11

You are wrong, don't worry

Gotta eat them all, DevilFruits!!!

Nahhh, he is getting them for his crew members. He needs to get all the powerfull ones for his crew so that they are on power with the best. It’s an easy way to get your under powered crew up to mark with the other emperors crews by simply having a ridiculous number of overpowered devil fruit user army. Just like Kaido wanted, but this time, real fruits. This explains why instead of going to get the ace’s devil fruit himself, he sent burguess to obtain and eat it.

The only reason I think that won’t happen is because it’s really hard to write. Hard to make Blackbeard use all the abilities in an interesting way, hard to make the back and forth of a fight interesting, and hard to write a way of losing where it is satisfying

​@@sarthakpatange2630 but all of his crew members have their DFs already. (Doc Q Sickness, San Juan Enlargement, Shiryu Invisibility, Devon Shapeshifting, Vasco Alcohol, Pizarro Island, Burgess Buff, Van Augr Warp, Kuzan Ice, Lafitte Wings) So why would he want boas or laws DF aswell?

I got a random theory, hopefully no one steals it, but I believe Blackbeard isn’t eating the other fruits, I think he’s putting them in his rings, like yk how u can feed inanimate objects devil fruits…idk I’m high asf but it makes sense

@@michaeldavis9826i like this idea!

@@michaeldavis9826 that only works with Zoans since they have their own will (according Vegapunk’s researches)

Who said they reacted on Bonnie eating? We never shown they look on her and not on Kuma. Maybe all this time it's Kuma was the one who took everyone's attention

@Zagryzaec The old man with the old woman are both wearing the same hats and are in the same design within both Chapter 498 and Chapter 1102. In Chapter 498, at a Restaurant in Grove 24, we hear a "Munch Munch" and a "Chomp Chomp!!" while loud smashing sounds occur... The same old man appears in the restaurant with the same old woman across from him and says "What an Appetite!" A younger man to the left of him with a younger woman says "Where does it all go?" Adding to the emphasis of their questioning, we also see Gang Bege say "Vulgar Woman! She's Spoling my meal. Go shut her up!" If you want to look at both chapters again to not look like an idiot and delete that comment I'd recommend it.

I remember that certain SBS. I had the One Piece manga copy back then. A reader sent this theory to Oda and asked him about that. Oda "claimed" to be surprised by that and he didn't really answer whether Kuma will join or not in the end. Man, it's been more than a decade ago I read that SBS lol

Finally someone noticed what coward writer Oda has done He made everything pointless cuz because of "split personality" thing Kuma gonna be fine

@@DaityaGod he's not going to be fine as Saturn threatened Vegapunk telling him not to do that and that as a scientist he would know if Vegapunk tried to deceive him

​@@DaityaGod??

@@JoshuaCrockford If Saturn was such a brilliant scientist, then Vegapunk wasn't really needed at all in the first place. He's just an old man acting tough behind the Transponder Snail and didn't even leave until Egghead Island arc.

Well, Sanji isn't as second hand iirc he was only unconcious for Zoro actually taking the pain, but Sanji saw everything else, including Zoro's state right after, i dont think any other Straw Hat saw that mucj? could be wrong though

Wait how does robin know

@@santiagosenoran1217 iirc while sanji and zoro were talking she put an ear on the ground near them and heard what happened.

Realistically yeah, the self destruct wouldn’t be that destructive, will probably just fry his circuits.

@collecter343 you are making alot of assumptions of the competence of these people. They didn't have a backup to open the gates of justice.

Kuma leaving the Revolutionary HQ was actually a good thing. If his self-destruct mode was activated by someone, it could have killed or severly injured most of the army (since every commanders were present on the Island still) Unless Lindbergh managed to remove the self-destruct device after Vegapunk told them about it

He already made a vid about that

If the theories are true, and Nefertari D. Lili did use the Paw Paw fruti to spread the Poneglyhs across the world, then it would be very fitting for Vivi to inherit the fruit from Kuma.

Sunny can not obtained the paw paw fruit caused is not a zoan type. Vivi could be the closest candidate.

Yeah I think Vivi is definitely the strongest candidate to be the next paw paw fruit user. I see her obtaining it in a hilarious way where Luffy accidentally fed it to her without realizing it’s a devil fruit

​@Stormrider1138 woahhhh that makes hella sense Kuma can make anything travel extremely far

Any evidence that its only a copy? I didn't get that impression but I could have missed something

Vegapunk specifically asked if the process erased Kuma’s memories to which Kuma replied that it was more like a copy.

@warsword4 ah thank you for reminding i do remember that scene

This

@@myboy_ yes I haven’t checked the official Viz yet today to see if the translation changed but based on the scans Kuma said as much!

Agreed. I had that theory myself for a while now. In terms of Vegapunk's accessibility to DF powers, Crocodile's use of poison in the past and sheer power the Venom Fruit would make the most sense. And it would be weird if S-Croc was the only Seraphim to not get a Paramecia but a Zoan fruit.

I think that fits perfectly since Crocodile did used his hook to TRY to poison Luffy from their final round in Alabasta.

I dunno if they'd know how to build it, i don't think they have a ship builder on their team.

​@giwrgospetrou1159 What? I wasn't about the chapter numbers, I was talking about the character's ages. And it doesn't even need to have been planned out from the start, Oda has very clearly shown his capability to take info from old chapters and write new narratives and revelations around it.

​@giwrgospetrou1159 sound the alarms, a butthole has arrived

@giwrgospetrou1159 "Comprehend better what I wrote" That's the single most ironic thing I've ever read.

​@giwrgospetrou1159you sound hella stupid

@giwrgospetrou1159 bro what the fuck does this mean

Yoooo that would be dope 😎😎😎

Zoro tanked it. Wouldn't do much

Or Maybe it was his haki b4 haki Correct me if I'm wrong ( about haki being haki then)

@@vaehbaaby6011 The amount zoro tanked would be different than what saturn would have to take on now. The fruit took the pain away from luffy and made zoro take all that pain on directly 1 to 1 and luffy's current fatigue would not be equal to that of what was on thriller bark.

@@ghudbob8613 thanks bro . I thought of that but had to get a better opinion

@@ghudbob8613 could you give me a comparison on how strong it was back then and how strong it would be now ? I still think hd will tank it tbh. I think zoro rn will tank that pain again. So Saturn must be able too. Sorry my English isn't so good

Ussop can't have Devil fruit "BRAVE WARRIOR OF THE SEA" who can't swim 💀 Totally makes his dream worthless

@@ashileshbhagat1276 Does that mean Luffy wanting to become King of the Pirates but can't swim like Roger is worthless as well?

@@TheWarmachine375 Pirate king is just a stepping stone for luffy to achieve his real dreams luffy real dream is not revealed yet but it's not to become pirate king he says that in recent ep " if i became pirates king maybe then it will possibly "

He definitely should feed it to his living slingshot instead. . . He could literally shoot anything then

@@ashileshbhagat1276 Luffy's dream is probably holding a massive fun party for everyone in the world where they can eat, drink and be merry. It's a Luffy thing to do.

The copy is gone tho

Kuma can still make more copies. Maybe even give a copy to his Seraphim ​@@altoturtle695

@@altoturtle695 it doesn’t matter. Kuma never lost his memories, it’s his mind that was erased (his personnality, will, pride, critical thinking, emotions)

Kuma still has his memories. It’s just that he lost his will and consciouness (his mind basically). Vegapunk said « Your death will hurt everyone that loved you » because he assimilates erasing his mind as killing him. Technically, Kuma is alive but his mind is dead. He’s a robot now

Usopp paw pawing himself while Van Augur keeps warping would be pretty funny in the anime. Hey! Usopp might win by forcing Van to warp to what looks to him like an advantageous position, only to realize Usopp already paw pawed a giant 5ton hammer there 5 minutes ago, thus showing him that his fate was sealed before he even decided to move!

That means Ussop will be able to beat a giant easily. Don't forget that Kuma basically one shot Oars Jr. with Ursus Shock

And if the Straw Hats end up fighting the Blackbeard Pirates, then the sniper batle between Ussop and Van Augur would be them constantly firing and teleporting 😂

@@justawanderingoldman7699 To be fair, with constant raise in power, that's not really as massive feat as it used to be then. Robin just got new form, and Nami still has Zeus, I believe. Long range ursus shock doesn't sound AS ridiculous as it would during Thriller Bark. Tho I feel like it would be nerfed somewhat, either due to Ussop not been a buckaneer, or being new user. Still, fun idea to explore

💯💯💯

So do 2 members of Lolas crew and Sanji and Robin know second had from them.

I vaguely remember a panel where he had the shadow ability in one hand and the quake in the other…been casually following for awhile now as I’ve gotten older so my memory may not be as great as some of you youngsters 😄

so far i think the blackbeard haku taku theory aligns most well with him. He basically has already a mythical fruit that allows him two extra fruits, cause he has three souls, thus the jolly roger with three heads. But in the end it is made up as a secret which might be lifted in the now beginning final arc.

blackbeard in a way is not exactly nullify the abilities, but can absorb things but has to expulse them at some point again. Like his black hole technique. Or the conch shells of skypia who could absorb damage and put it back on people when touching

Also to protect himself a la his use of the impact dial on Water 7