Thanks for the clip on increasing the high on the Baru, looks awesome! Am having a RallyTeK 2” lift on my 24 OBW and I know it will look amazing just like yours! Happy Trails ✌️❤️

My son has the 2022 Outback Wilderness and I have the 2021 Crosstrek Sport Quetico. I recently did the full Bilstein Struts and shocks and Eibach springs .. 33" to the top of the front wheel well and 34" on the rear. My son has left his relatively stock as he enjoys camping with his girlfriend up in Minnesota. I'm here in AZ and have done Death Valley 4 times and Moab 3 times with the Trek .. once you start doing the off road stuff the suspension mod's are the best thing you can do other then tires. I'm running 225/65 17" BKG KO2's on stock rims with 1" spacers all around. I send my son your videos so he can make some sound decisions. Liked the one wear you say to hold off putting stuff on your rig until you know you really need it .. winch for example. I am on the same page there .. 🤠

My neighbor has one he did the Ironman lift with Method wheels and 245/65/17 Maxxis Razor AT 811 that thing looks so bad ass and rides great! Also he's a single guy with a girlfriend and they go on trips every where. Don't fear the wagon single guys not just for family guys.😂😂😂

Before I traded my Crosstrek in for a gladiator I had the ironman 4x4 lift on it. And I can say I loved it. The lift did nothing but make the driving experience better and more clearance for larger tires. Very pleased with the company, and quality from Ironman.

Awesome guys. My late father knew how to disassemble/overhaul and reassemble vehicles and my bros learned the skill from him.

I was running the standard version of the iromnan kit on my '19 forester, and loved almost everything except for the sag. Just purchased the spec-c for my forester wilderness, and it'll be here tomorrow!

Every since I watched Casey Ledelle's video a week or so ago I'm really wanting to do the Ironman lift on my wife's Crosstrek. She just wants a 2in lift and I was going to just do the spacer lift but this is overall so much better even if we aren't really going to off-road her Crosstrek. I will probably save up and do it though cause that's how I am, why do cheap when you can do something for more? Lol it's way better than just spacer lifts so it's totally worth the money.

A lot of people have channels on YT that spout misinformation unintentionally. They take information from press kits or old rumors and myths and repeat them. There's no malice or harm intended but it does make it difficult for people seeking real information to understand what a product or a vehicle might actually be capable of doing. First of all, your Power Wagon does NOT have 14.2 inches of ground clearance from the factory at the rear differential which is where every solid rear axle vehicle ever was measured from until RAM decided to measure from the highest point under the front axle tube and then pretend that meant the rear diff could also clear the 14 inch rock. Try it and you'll discover the truth. Guys who have actually measured the clearance to the rear diff get about 9 inches. Which is about right with 33" stock tires given how much the very large diff on the Power Wagon hangs below the center line of the tires. Adding full 37's would give you an additional 2 inches for a grand total of 11 inches to the diff give or take. Still not 14 as Ram claims or the 16 plus you stated in this video. The Power Wagon is still a worthy beast without the misleading marketing from RAM so I don't get the deception. Heck, Ford is doing the same sort of thing with tire sizes as their 315/70/17's on the Bronco and Raptor are actually 34.4 inches but they call them 35's. Sorry, but to round up you have to be at least half way there or more. Anyway, will it ever make a real difference? Probably not but rocks can't do math so imaginary numbers don't matter to them. In cases of serious wheeling know your real clearances everywhere. Now, as for the Outback, yes, you will get increased ground clearance but not increased wheel travel. In an independent suspension setup without changing the length of the control arms you will have the same amount of wheel travel as you did from the factory you will just start your up travel from a position farther down in the droop travel. If the new springs are too stiff then you will actually lose wheel travel as the car will begin to lift up on the springs before the bump stops are reached which would be the factory point of maximum up travel. So you can actually lose wheel travel with a lift with the wrong spring rates. The Power Wagon is an example of engineers softening the spring rates to allow for full articulation so the tow rating and payload go down versus a standard RAM 2500. Power Wagon has 1560 pounds of max payload and 10,520 pounds of max towing. Versus a Laramie Crew Cab 4x4 with same engine at 3130 pounds of payload and 14,660 pounds of max tow capacity. There's likely very little in the way of maximum available wheel travel between the two but the softer springs in the Power Wagon allow it to use all it has available to it. By the way, regarding the additional spring rate in the rear of your Outback, just because you add more spring rate to the rear doesn't mean the GVWR changes. Legally anyway. Less sag for the same weight is cool though. And you will lose wheel travel. It's the nature of the compromise beast. Anyway, back to the Outback. The Wilderness Edition comes stock with 225/65/17 Yokohama Go15's that measure to a manufactured spec of 28.5 inches. Or roughly seven tenths of an inch taller than the tires that come stock with every other version of the Outback except the Limited. Which actually wears taller tires than the Wilderness Edition at 225/60/18 or a factory spec of 28.8". So on the Wilderness Edition there is somewhere around a half inch of actual lift from the suspension and .35 inches from the tires. Which squares nicely with the Forester Wilderness Edition which gets the standard GO15's at 225/60/17 or 27.7" just like the highway tires and only has 9.2 inches of factory ground clearance because it doesn't have the .35 inches of tire lift, just the .50 inch of suspension lift. So, the two inch lift that Ironman and others are offering is pushing the suspension down into droop and additional 2 inches giving potentially 2.5 inches of total lift if they based them off the factory lift. But just two inches if based off the standard coils. Either way it still doesn't completely use up all the factory droop so it'll be fine. Now, switching out to the Nitto's was a good idea because of the lighter weight. KO2's are too heavy for almost every CUV application. Not because of fuel economy as same size tires will always perform about the same unless the weight is dramatically different or the tread pattern is TSL Swamper aggressive as you found out. But rotational mass is harder to handle when stopping whether on level ground or when a tire comes to an abrupt halt due to terrain which is more likely with a larger and heavier tire.. It's easier to break stuff with a heavier tire and components wear out more quickly. Put it this way, the typical KO2 245/65/17 everybody puts on these things is 46% heavier than the heaviest tire Subaru puts on the Outback from the factory. Whereas the Nitto is a hair less than 13% heavier. But folks really need to research their options as you can get much more aggressive tires in the 235/65/17 size at the same weight as the Nitto. The 235/65/17 is 29" mathematically and generally 29.1" to 29.3" as manufactured. So less than 2 tenths of an inch of ground clearance lost versus the 245 but without the need for spacers or new wheels. In the 235 size you can get a Wildpeak AT3W at 34#'s or the Toyo Open Country AT III also at 34#'s. Durability though more so than a super aggressive tread is what you need in most cases. It's surprising how little difference in traction there is between a mild A/T and an aggressive design in everything except mud. So, many tires will actually work. I've heard it said more than a few times that by the time you need more traction than a regular all terrain provides you need a mud terrain. I own a Subaru Impreza and it goes a lot of places haters pretend it won't. 186,000 miles on the CVT with no issues. Though I do think Subaru is missing a great opportunity by doubling down on the CVT and not developing a worthy 8 to 10 speed alternative as the AWD drive system is better than the tranny. The Outback is a great all around family and mild adventure car which is all Subaru ever designed it to be. Haters want to compare it to a built out Jeep Wrangler they don't own and say it isn't as good. Maybe not. But it's better than the imaginary Jeep they don't have. Again, I don't think you're trying to mislead people but when giving out information publicly, unless you're running for office, it's important to be accurate.

Wooooh! This is one I've been waiting for. Great choice.

Got it from your other video! LP7 wheels and BF All Terrain T/A KO2 tires. Such a cool machine. Driving a WRX now but had two Outbacks in the past. Loving this new Wilderness!

Thank you for a great video. Just put a Primitive Racing 1.5” lift onto wife’s Outback yesterday. Looking forward to the difference it makes, and to your next video!

Looks cool. We just picked up our Outback Wilderness. Lovin it so far and definitely nicer than anticipated

Put mine on with some 1/2 spacers a few weeks ago. Absolutely love it. Rides and handles better than factory in my opinion.

I was going to do the LP spacer kit on mine and you got me thinking . I am just waiting for the 2nd video and your comment to take my final decision .

Super cool tats dude. I bet they'll look great when you're 80.

Looking forward to seeing a long term review at the end of your summer adventures.

Man..I need a Matt in my life 😆

Looks really nice. The first Iron Man review a while back showed that the lift in rear was great until you loaded it up with gear and then it lowered back down as if it didn’t have a lift. They admitted it was a bit soft, from what I was told, and were hoping to come out with a lift that would hold under load. PLEASE take measurements before you load it up and then after you fully load it with all you would take on an outing. Also very interested in knowing where you are able to get it aligned. I assume Iron Man provides new specs for the alignment person to use? Thanks for sharing the fun!

Thank you for making this video. BTW… those are the front struts you’re holding up.

Looks amazing!

Looks great!

Looking really good Bro

Like the looks. Put our Outback up with a 2 in left and taller Geolander and LP Adventure Wheels. We like it for light off road . Thanks for sharing

Thank you for info!!

Hi Josh, I’ve installed the same lift kit on my Wilderness. I’ve discovered a problem and informed Ironman. They are looking into it. Take a look at the clearance between the exhaust pipe and the CV boot by the differential. I’ve only got about 1/8” clearance. I’ll be installing some aftermarket exhaust hangers at the mufflers to resolve. Ironman said they could not provide me with their hangers because they are packaged in a “kit”. The initial response from them was that it is not a problem. After I sent some pictures, they said they would look into it. Take a look at your install and see what kind of clearance you have. I’d be interested to learn what your status is. Thanks, Scott

looks good! Did you have to go get everything realigned professionally after the install? you made the comment about how your camber was off on the front after installing

Whish they would come out with one for the SJ Forester XT like they hinted at 2 years ago.

Love the build, I would have used blue thread locker on the bolts.

I wish ironman made lifts for the 2014 Forester 2.5i

Matt get over here and install your brother in laws 6.5in Jeep lift 😂

Have measured the new approach, breakover and departure angles? The big bugaboo for me is the stock approach angle of the Wilderness.

Did you ever notice any thuds or clunks in the front or rear in your original equipment suspension set up while off-road or going over bumps/speed bumps? If so what do you think it was?

You actually only get an additional 1.2 inches, The strut difference was 2" difference from the Original Outback model, but the struts on the wilderness were already .8inch longer.

Awesome! I want to do the same. I didn’t hear you mention anything about the LP Adventure 2 inch lift? Wasn’t that on the OBW originally? Did you add the IronMan 4x4 lift on top of it? Also… I like the Garmin, I just got the Epix 2. I’m excited to see you test the OBW!!!!

Not yet tho liking may get one thinking the stock suspension is just. Crap for me and causing somthing to rattle under the dash or somthing mounted somewhere

What year vehicle? I didn’t catch it… looks killer btw! 👍

Hey Josh, this is Mark from Palubaru_Adventures. You're going to love it! I am curious if you had it aligned with or without the tire carrier and wheel/tire re-installed? I am still debating if I want to have Ironman send me the Spec-C's for the rear. As you know, I have the DirtCom carrier with a wheel and tire and didn't see any sag with the standard lift coils, but I didn't have my fridge, fridge slide, power supply or gear in when I had mine aligned. I am curious to see how it handles when it's all loaded up and if it effects the alignment. Since this is a daily driver I also didn't want it to be too stiff. Hit me up next time you're here in Utah. I'll make time to have a chance to compare each vehicle.

It looks great!

Won't that mess up the original design effectivness? (and make it wear out or break sooner??) Curious to see what happens over time-- please make another video later after about 6 months using this. ONe guy on here has that-- but he also installed a LOCKER-- and cvt cooler, and a few other things.... check it out.

Can you get a different color spring

Hello, I appreciate all of your videos and I think i've watched them all. I bought a 2022 OBW in Geyser Blue and I would like to get the ironman 4x4 suspension and the Nitto Nomad 245/65/17 added to the car. Just want to confirm that the increased height from the ironman 4x4 suspension adds 2 inches to both front and rear? I read somewhere that the suspension only adds 1.25 inch for the wilderness trim. Also, because I do not plan on towing anything other than attaching a bike carrier to my hitch, would you recommend I get the medium load and not the Spec-Cs? Also, do you get any rubbing from the Nitto Nomad tires in the wheel well?

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Hey can you please comment a bit about how it feels on washboard roads and over speed bumps compared to the stock wilderness suspension? I noticed a big difference with the previous model stock suspension and wilderness stock suspension... curious how this differs in performance overall but specifically related to washboard dirt road areas and speed bumps all over?

Thank you so much for posting. Biggest question I have. How’s the ride quality for everyday driving.

Looks good!

It's really hard to get the parts in Australia as the Subaru mods markets are too small. The order from the US has just arrived and finally will have them installed next Monday. Just curious does it make a huge difference on offroad capability please?

Hi Josh I just received my kit and went with the SPEC-C on both front and rear. I wanted to know how you were able to verify the invoice receipt Ironman4x4 give as an email match what you physically received? Only reason why I ask is some 6th gen owners in the forums received the standard when they ordered the SPEC-C. One even went as far as installing it to find that their rears was wrong and sagging on a trip. Love your wilderness content BTW.

Can u use this same lift kit on an Outback Touring? Or is it only compatible with the wilderness trim? Thanks

This only for the wilderness? Non of the other outbacks?

Good video except the ironman lift only lifts the outback wilderness 1.2" it is a 2" lift on a standard outback

Did you need to make any alterations to fit that size tires with the ironman lift? That's a bit bigger than what most people i see running on their crosstrek with a 2" lift. Is it because of the wilderness package? Are the wheel wells a bit bigger with this package. I am holding off until next year to see what the crosstrek wilderness looks like before i buy. Great video, tons of information. I would 100% go this route rather than spacers even though i don't offroad seems a bit better option.

Great videos! What LP Aventure wheel model is that?

No thread sealer?...I too like to live dangerously!

How are you liking the spec c in the back so far? I know it says on their site that if you get the spec c’s and you’re not constantly loaded up they will be stiff. I believe your wife daily drives the OBW and I can’t imagine it’s loaded down daily. Is the back pretty stiff?

I see the Nittos didn't last long lol

New subscriber here. Did you use jack stand pads and/or floor jack pucks with grooves to avoid damaging the pinch welds? Also, is it safe to use the center jacking points? Looks like you have an aftermarket rear diff cover. Anyway, there seems to be no consensus on the forums. BTW, are those OEM mud guards? And what is the lug nut torque spec? I know those are probably dumb questions for most Subaru owners, but I’ve come from the German car scene, and the jacking system is way different and we use lug bolts. I typically do more searching, but winter is fast approaching, and I need to do a couple things to this car before it snows. I just got my OBW and I don’t have tons of time to search. You seem like an expert regarding this vehicle, so I am coming straight to you.😊 Thank you.

What's the offset of your LP's? 35's are tough to come by. wondering if another offset would work.

Nice build! Can you give me the actual rim and tire sizes you used? Also, we’re there any other rim brands and designs you were considering before you chose your LP’s?

Nice! What about EyeSight though?

I was looking at the iron man site and did not found anything specific to the wilderness , are the strut really longer by 2 inches over the wilderness one ?

No spacer go in the front?

Does the kit come with camber bolts for alignment? How does all that work?

Can you clarify this. I have read so many different things. When it comes to subaru if i have a brand new Subaru and i upgrade my suspension doeit void the warranty or will the subary dealership void any claims because i changed my suspension to a none subaru part?

No way, the Subaru guy has a man bun?

how much mpg do you have after the lift? Just curious.

is there any company that have air bags to go on the subaru outback?

Does this lift dramatically change the angle of the cv axles? Increase wear?

Question: how does this impact towing a trailer? +\-

Does this affect the warranty or anything?

I no you drive off road alot did ur car ever develop a front end rattle when driving over washboard dirt roads.

Why would someone want a Subaru outback instead of something like a Toyota 4runner?

Did you sell the stock wheels?

how does this effect Subaru eyesight?

becoming a tank lol.

This tires is good?

What size are your wheels ?

Not to sound like an ass. But what's the point of lifting this vehicle? It's already at 9.5, that's not enough?

Both rear and front spec-c?

What tires are on it?

You’re gonna need a bigger engine

You’re gonna need a bigger engine.

I really struggle to understand the motivation behind lifting an Outback with a CVT transmission - I'd suggest figuring out how to install a winch because you're likely to get stuck. 😅 CVTs are not good for situations needing low speed torque - you're going to trash the transmission.

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