I was so bothered by that Squirrelflight-Hollypaw conversation back when I read it and wasn't sure why. Aaand yep turns out I'm asexual 😂

As much as this book might be disliked/criticized by the community at large, tbh it will always have a special place in my heart because of when it came out- I was really sick as a kid, and at the time Outcast was released I was in the hospital because of how sick I was and I can remember so vividly the excitement when my mom showed me the book she’d brought me. Just seeing the (original!) cover for the first time is burned into my memory. Having a new book from my favourite series was one of the biggest bright spots of that hospital stay, and so no matter how the book objectively measures up I can’t bring myself to really have any negative feelings towards it, haha.

Honestly I read this series in school and they didn’t have outcast, I went from Dark River to Eclipse and didn’t miss a thing. They talked about the mountain and journey, but it didn’t do anything for the plot, so I was able to just keep reading the books without needing to read Outcast. When I did eventually read it I found it boring and grating to read, I was sad Stoneteller and the Tribe were made to be weaker because I always wanted to see them prove that clan ways weren’t superior. But that didn’t happen. I hope we don’t go back to the tribe, the clans have already ruined that sadly.

So, a confession: when I got that book(in french, I wasn't good at english back then) on christmas 2012, at the age of 10, I devoured it, and then for the next nearly 3 years, I considered it my favorite book of warrior cats. How did that happen? Well, a couple reasons. First, it was a complete surprise. I had asked my parents to get me Dark River for Christmas, which I previously considered my favorite warrior cat book(I still really like this one even now, probably always will:D), but when I opened the package, there were not one but two warrior cats books. In the following years, it became sort of a tradition for me to get one translated warrior cats book in the spring, and one on christmas. This lasted until the end of arc 4, where I finally started reading them in english. I think all of those positive memories helped it stand out in my mind. Second, I adored two of the protagonists, Hollypaw and Jaypaw, so anything that featured their povs was better by default in my eyes. They're still my favorite characters pretty much, but it not longer automatically means that I'll like a book with them. Third, I loved learning more about the ''lore'' of warrior cats. So, Fallen Leaves's character in Dark River was super interesting, learning that the tribe originally lived near the lake was super interesting, and seeing it happening in long shadows's weird time travel plotline was even more interesting(to me).

Ah, Outcast. The book that made me drop Warriors for *years*.

Me thinking or Outcast be like: N-no j-just no! CAN'T YOU JUST LEAVE THE TRIBE OF RUSHING WATER BE!? Half the FANDOM ARE DONE WITH IT! What I want to see is Cody the kittypet make a return.

smh im a minute late bit more on topic, am I weird for liking the tribe? I know a lot of people dont like them, but thats because boring chapters surrounding the tribe from the eyes of our protagonists. I like the concepts behind the tribes, them being there before the clans existed. Splitting their group into 2 separate parts that fit as a whole group. I want to know more about them that isnt a cat calling their customs weird and wrong. I want to know a day in a tribe chat's eyes. I want to see HOW different their life is compared to a classic clan cat.

This is one of the few books of mine that survived a house fire, so it's special to me.

Vicky said what now about the Tribe's inspiration?! When I saw that on the Warriors Iceberg graphic, I thought it was a joke ._." I'm... morbidly curious but I should probably be glad I've never seen any of those comments. SMH.

In my own Rewrite I’m giving Hollypaw to BrightHeart LeafPool fakes a sign to make Jaypaw her apprentice Jealous of how close her kids have become with BrambleClaw and SquirrelFlight. Lionpaw starts with AshFur but is given to BrackenFur after Ashfur tries to kill him And accidentally admit you’ve been holding Lionpaw back to Spite BrambleClaw and SquirrelFlight Which gets him Confined to Camp

Outcast was the first book in the series I read from my library and never felt the need to read again

I’m a character over plot person and I like this book a lot bc of that but even I could tell that it has its problems. ESPECIALLY with the tribe.

as an aroace the conversation between Squirrelflight and Hollypaw hits home

I didn't...hate this book. Honestly, I felt that there was more going on than the two previous books. Even the clan stuff didn't feel like a drag this time, as I found the Lionblaze/Ashfur fight pretty intense and foreshadowing. Plus, I like that all the Three had a reason to make the journey to the Tribe, had Jayfeather try to seek advice from Stoneteller, and that Lionblaze finally got to show off his power. And even if it was filler, the Tribe plot still had potentially. Instead having the Tribe pretty much submit to the way of the clans, why couldn't there have been compromise that reinforced the strength of their culture? Like, what if there were cats that were assigned to second-in-command, deputy-like roles for both Cave-guards and Preyhunters, showing the strength and potential of both ranks with someone acting as their head? And, in addition to this, I feel it wasn't just the Tribe members who got the shaft in terms of characterization. If the reason for this book's plot was because of Stormfur and Brook's banishment (the book is called Outcast for goodness sake), why were they given so little to do? They could have been at the forefront of this mission, working to earn their place back in the Tribe, and perhaps taking on those second-in-command roles I mentioned. Stripes and his crew could have also been more interesting and threatening as villains, instead of the ragtag diet Bloodclan bunch they were portrayed, they could have been a real force to be reckoned with.

Ooh yeah this was where I stopped reading Warriors for a good few years before trying to go back to it and then giving up officially after Sign of the Moon lol I only read a few novellas and super editions in between

I almost completely dropped Warriors because of this book. I got really bored with it halfway through, put the book down, and didn't touch it again for a long time. I did pick it up again though and finished the entire thing, but I'll always remember it as the book that almost made me abandon Warriors lol.

Funny that this came out literally the day after I finished the book lol

this is the only wc book i own amd it's so boring but i'll still treasure it

This book was actually my first book I ever got and read. But yeah it does have its issues as any other Warrior Cats book :/

I have waited for another trip trough time!!🎉🎉😅

Great video! Love the outro music

I dunno why I'm watching this cos I'm only on dawn but HOW IS FIRESTAR STILL ALIVE

I haven’t read outcast ( because I’m on fire star quest or I will be on November 5 ) I’m kinda excited but I don’t know by the comments and what you said

i first read outcast when i was suuuper young, so i had no clue that it was just so, so wrong in so many ways. now watching this video. it just makes me mad. how was this allowed??

How would you fix this?

I did not like the book. the moments i liked where just between Hollypaw, Jaypaw, Lionpaw, and Breezepaw. The tribe part was bad, and gross with how it was said. Outcast is one of my least favorite main arc books

I absolutely HATE outcast it was a huge waste of time and it annoyed me so much that 9 year old me sold the book

Man I hated this book lmfao

I got to this book, then I literally got bored of reading warriors- I guess I should proooobably try reading them again, but I dislike this book so much, along with the rest of the power of three. I just find them kinda boring