Dave changes cars more often than I change sneakers. Not exaggerating lol

My dad has a 2023 Lucid Air Touring, his touch screen is like lightening fast. He use to own the Model X Plaid, had on going , never ending multiple issues with the car, The car ended up being a lemon, got his $$ back, He Loves the Lucid, ride comfort and range

All Auto-Makers who want consumers to purchase their products especially EVs are clueless to just how horrible the CCS charging network is. Great content! Looking forward to what’s next on the horizon! Cheers!

Good for you Dave. You have enough presence and fame that this will reach the desk of those who need to make decisions on CCS. You’re the man!

Dave changes his cars more than his clothes

Dave, you may want to consider changing your channel name to "Flip My Car Dave" 😊

If you spend $100k plus on a vehicle, it should be able to do more than a Chevy Bolt. It seems if you need to charge outside your home area, the car has problems.

You know, I see guys in Lucid's and I tend to think that is a world where everything is perfect. Thanks for filling us in on the issues. You are not nitpicking as you should expect a lot given the price point.

I have a 23 Tesla MYLR I was forced to used Electrify America in the Islamorada as there are no superchargers there. All units were derated and slow - people whom have never experienced using a supercharger are going to be in for a pleasant awakening how ez the Tesla Superchargers and how fast!

You had one bar of cell service. That probably caused the nav to load slowly.

Wow, those would be enough issues for me to avoid. I hope they get these things resolved.

I feel so sorry to read that - CCS / European / German charging network works without hiccups

Thank you for sharing this. Dave. I like Lucid cars myself and I own a Model S. There are plenty nice EVs out there and coming, but as you have described in this video just how far ahead Tesla is amongst the others. Tesla has its quirks and imperfections, but they do think more about the peoples use when they make designs. I just wish Tesla would add Waze and Pandora to the system.

Very appreciative of the comments. I own a Lucid too, and would not trade it for anything. Far from being perfect, but also far more advanced than most. The driving experience is beyond amazing, and with every software update it only keeps getting better. ‘My pet is ok’ seriously….

Even as I own a Y, live in Calif, I still occasionally have range anxiety. E.g. return home from Santa Barbara, we found out Hw1 was closed. Wasted 75 mile of 🔋 range to backtrack. Another time, pull in Stockton/Hwy99 SuperCharger, it was full. Imagine what it'd be like in busy holidays as Teslas multiply like rabbits. So CCS issues by itself will cause Lucid to fail. What is an expensive car that's no good for road trips?

I sold my Mini SE for a gas one, and it was really more about the charging stations than the lack of range on the car. It was such a good car in town but just can’t go out of the city because of the charging infrastructure or lack thereof.

Now that Lucid has adopted NACS and released the Gravity SUV, it would be interesting to see a redux of this video!

One Lucid Air owner in germany wants to sue lucid because they refuse to take it back since lucid promised a lot of features the car does not have in its the current state. Considering the price. This is a joke how they delievered this car here in EU. At least your adaptive cruise control works 🤣

How many months do you think it will be before Dave sells his next car?

This family drives me nutz. You buy a EV that you know that uses CCS and you admit you are a road warrior but shocked charging is crap. Like no real common sense in this family.

That is 1 thing I tip my hat to Tesla for...their emphasis on software and how everything works pretty well together. You definitely lose in the luxury end of things when it comes to interior materials and all that. No doubt about that. But man my base model 3 is really functional...esp the center display.

Despite the predictable howling from the Lucid fanboys, Dave’s exactly right. My 8 year old MS has a better UI than my 23 Lucid Touring. I’m very disappointed in Lucid so far, and very concerned about their future. And, my concern has nothing to do with the charging infrastructure. Lucid makes a beautiful car that oozes luxury and advanced architecture, but is compromised by poorly designed electronics and clunky interfaces.

I was thinking of buying a Lucid. Thanks for pointing out the little things.

On the cables, they sell ones with a 90-degree connector.

Love my Lucid and buying more Tesla stock.

Should have kept the Lucid. They now have Tesla Supercharger access.

Sounds like he wants his lucid to be a tesla

Every lucid I see at EA while charging my rivian had no issues with charging.

I just drove a 2024 Air Touring last Sunday. They vastly improved the UX since this video. It was just as fast and responsive as my 2023 BMW.

Lucid should add an advisory sticker near the charging door “not compatible with 2018 MY Signet chargers “

He, above all people, knew what he was getting when he bought the Lucid. More money than sense, IMO. 😗

Old news.....Lucid can now charge anywhere......plus with the extra range you rarely need to use a supercharger.

The lucid SUV looks awesome!

Wow, software on that thing is abysmal. They aren't even where Tesla was with software back in 2012.

This is NOT a video that the Lucid advertisement department will be using.

Thank you for the commentary Dave. I didn’t plan on buying a Lucid. Now I definitely plan on not buying a Lucid. Picked up a Tesla 23’ Model S last week primarily for why you chose to sell the Lucid….. charging infrastructure. Tesla is years ahead of the competition.

The model X sun visors are far superior. Wow - those would drive me nuts also.

Can’t wait to see your new model s plaid 😅💯

Dave I received my Lucid last May. I agree with some of your comments. Although on my car the reaction time for the passenger function changing the seat is much faster. Also My slow driving is very smooth maybe some things have changed. Except for one quirk where my volume got stock last week the software seems to be faster. The charging network is not good. If you do not mind charging at home there are no issues but this is a big problem for all EV's not on the Tesla network. Lastly I agree on the Dream Drive Pro. One of my employees bought a model three and the software is really nice. I was hoping when I received my car as I ordered a Stealth Model Air Touring that the software for the Dream Drive Pro would wow me. Honestly It is one of my biggest issue. Lastly one thing I am surprised that was not brought up and maybe it is me as I use the key. Sometimes my key does not work and i will sit outside the car and have to open the car with my phone. I tried to setup my phones bluetooth as a key but I cannot get it to work. If they work some of these things out I believe it is a really nice car. I love how it looks how it drives and for the most part am a happy with it but they need to work on the software.

Dave, thanks for posting the feedback. I hope that Lucid Engineers take it seriously. There's nothing better than live demonstration of the concerns, especially when it comes with the intentions of improving the experience. I had the Model 3 (as well), and agree that the slow driving (traffic) was pretty smooth, so it should definitely be as smooth or smoother in the Lucid. Providing information such as the name of the song, or pet mode (temp inside the vehicle), are very valid and simple points. I had suggested to Tesla and Elon, that they consider allowing feedback from drivers after a vehicle initiated hard brake event to determine if it was legitimate or not... because my Model 3 had slammed on the brakes on the highway due to a falling leaf (it was a scary event). That instant feedback from the Driver along with the information captured by the vehicle should allow for useful datapoints for the Engineers involved in the Self-driving and safety features of the vehicle. It seems like you want to help us get better vehicles and I appreciate your efforts. Keep it up!

All true. But, when I drive every Tesla model, they are not nearly as comfortable to drive and the idea that I would have to hunt through screens for a virtual control to control the direction the air is blowing from the vents is a non-starter. I won't, not now, not ever. The BMW i5 and i7 probably do all of this better, but they lack the range and usable space. For now, Lucid is the best available, but they better get on it or they'll be left behind pretty quickly.

I'll miss the Lucid content. I worry that if you go to Tesla only content that this will just turn into another Tesla channel. I like some real information about other cars.

Thanks for update. Get the X. I did order a X. Problem… likely will not get in time for section 179 this year. Looks like Jan 2024 delivery. Wait times are up unless find new one at Tesla “in stock”. Color free is good. Can add FSD later to keep price where it should be. Wish Tesla had power boost option like the do on model Y. Would be easy to do. For those that do not need a Plaid with lower range.

After seeing Dave in the lightning I was sure he was going to buy one not a Tesla

TLDR; I wanted my Lucid to be like my Tesla in every way.

At that oprion moving screen you have to sing down and gps will drop into the ipad

$10,000 for Lucid “Dream Drive” which is the same as the free basic Tesla autopilot with ACC and lane centering. That is an overcharged feature, which Lucid never addressed updates. Shame on Lucid.

Thanks for sharing ur experiences. Yes the car is gorgeous but can’t only think of that. Little things on ur day to day add up if it’s annoying. Lucid needs to drop prices bc it won’t sell at all.

The reason for no dog mode is cause Lucid is burning cash quick and that dog is the least of their current priorities.. sadly.

CCS charging would've been enough but all points are valid here. This is not an inexpensive car nor should it be judged like one.

13:30…… Now finally something important. This is where Tesla model s’s smoke lucid. It’s not even close. I LOVE that I can turn on the car’s assist feature and just take a 1/2 nap while waiting for traffic to clear. Lucid’s suck in this area. The patents on this stuff are open sourced through Tesla. Why in the f*** would lucid just not borrow this feature from Tesla? Because they aren’t especially bright? Who knows.

Number one that influencer do to get a bigger chance to get higher views is that to pick an interesting title.

Hmmm...I guess by the way you put it, if I had to road trip like ALL the time, then yeah, I would likely not keep my non-Tesla EV. But for normal use (what I think of as normal anyway) of road tripping of 1 - 3 road trips a year and the rest daily driving with charging available at home, I couldnt see my way to changing up bc of a few issues with CCS charging. And yes, I've only had less than a handful in about 3 years. With the whole NACS about to become (it really already has) the standard anyway and an adapter is all that'll be needed for use of the SC network next year, I'm good. I do appreciate your viewpoint as it does provide much value!

I just got my Lucid Air Pure a month ago despite seeing all of the issues Dave a Kyle experienced. I have yet to see the signet surge. Maybe the 700v lucids fast charge better than the 900v versions?

This is the best ownership review I've come across on Lucid Air. We own one. His talking points succinct match our experience. It's a great driving car marred by lousy UX/UI from underpolished software. It's a great roadtrip car beset by EA shenanigans. Knowing what we know now, we would've still chosen it over EQE, IX or Models S/X. But at its price point, it shouldn't have felt like a late beta product.

And, the fact that you're supported by Tesla surely couldn't have anything to do with this video.

Your reason is the same reason I got rid of my Audi etron. I too, take many road trips and I just got tired of the non-Tesla charging infrastructure here in the US. Pitiful and getting worse, IMHO.

18:50 Why did the passenger seat move forward? 😲

You can charge on the Tesla network in early 2025 (one year). Also, the visors would drive me nuts. Lastly, let us know what you think of the Lucid Gravity and maybe hold onto your Model 3 until 2025

For me, I’m willing to overlook a few luxuries (fine leather, CarPlay, ultimate range) for a smooth ecosystem and highest engineering/technology/safety. I want an established brand with solid financials, management and proven execution. Tesla has incredible software engineers, hardware and innovation. FSD is next level compared to others. Max range isn’t really my concern even with my old Model X-175k miles and 220 max range. I can travel SoCal to NorCal, Vegas albeit with more charging.

You would have bought another new car either way. You always do. ;)

Thank you David for the user-perspective view - which is great! They ask for a lot of money....and this does not look like a luxury car inside though. Its half baked? They still need to put a lot of work into it.

Let’s just be honest here. Lucid just sucks ass. I test drove and it’s jerky not refined. It’s worse than model 3. Dave is just being super nicely complaining here.

Someone, please send this video to Lucid!!!!!

Any regular maintenance you had to do? How many set of tires was used during your ownership?

I knew he would sell the Lucid. It was only a matter of time. Dave just get a Tesla and stay put, please!

The software in this car is garbage. For all the talk about how the tech in the Lucid is top of the line this video really lays bare all the deficiencies this car has. I think Lucid is in real trouble.

10:00……get the visor retrofitted to collapse. I know they should have thought of that but it’s an easy fix. Again. It’s common to make a lot of these mistakes in the cars infancy. That’s why the Tesla model s long range is so much better.

5:32 I feel like that's a quirk of Apple Carplay and sounds in general like they compromised on the processing and computer in general. At that price point, it should have some of the best on the market to ensure a smooth and seemless experience. Its a luxury electric vehicl after all.

That apple carplay padding is due to apple not lucid.

Spent 150k on lucid gt, software UI is terrible. Over the air update improvements are so slow. Didn't see much software improvement over the last 14 months. Very disappointing

The fit and finish is disappointing for a car with that price tag. The laggy software would drive me nuts.

Wow after looking at this I feel so blessed that I bought a Tesla as these “niggles” don’t exist whatsoever, everything is like a dream come true. Ok lucid is ultra lux but I would any day choose practicality over luxury & I have owned the best luxury ICE vehicles but Tesla just makes it so logical.

Would you have kept it if ongoing Lucid Air has NACS charging which will be featured in upcoming 2025 model year ?

At the price of the car you can nitpick as much as you want.

I didn't know Lucid is missing so many software functionalities that Tesla has, considering they have a lot of former Tesla engineers. What is really strange is the slow driver profile change. It's either as slow or almost as slow as the Audi fat etron's profile change, which could be measured with a sundial. Something that's almost instantaneous in even the cheapest Tesla should really be the same in a Lucid. A lot of the things on Dave's wishlist seem strange to be missing in a car like the Lucid Air for sure.

Tesla superchargers rule!

Interesting comments! I was considering BMW electrics but with their insistence to stay with CCS and partner with "like-minded" companies and build their own network, BMW was removed as an EV candidate. I own a BMW, so I have nothing against the Brand, outside of their nutty pricing. If Tesla had lowered the price of their product line, and in particular the "S" about 2 weeks before they actually did, a Tesla "S" would be sitting in my garage instead of a BMW. I think I'll go with the company that can, by OTA updates, unlock an additional 100HP

The fact he mentions "we put a man on the moon" tells me he isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. Seriously dude?

Much frustration is rooted in high expectations of technology. Folks would be much happier if we depended on simpler things. Manual seats, buttons, knobs, air louvers and such. Automating everything and activating everything on a screen is just setting us up for disappointment.

2025 will be the year many EVs will have real access to NACS, and until then have to deal with CCS.

I would just remove the sun visors and tint the windshield

I don't get it. You are selling the Lucid because of all of these supposedly issues yet you said you may give the new Lucid Suv a look when it comes out? Wouldn't you run into the same issues that you already hate to begin with? Sounds like you should stick with the tried and true Tesla Model 3 or get a new Model S for more range.

Well done. Thank you.

Tesla is still the Ultimate Road tripper. Nationwide electric car acceptance will never arrive until the US charging infrastructure is overhauled.

I approve a validate your request / wish for the particular lucid ammendments. You pay the money and in an ideal world, they should make the adjustments. I hope they can and do, for everyone's sake. :)

You can play music but only for a a short period there is a time limit not sure how many seconds it is, I'd stick to less than 10sec if possible. KZfaqr in the UK I follow his entire intro is licensed music but doesn't play it for longer than the time period for each song he has in his intro so doesn't get tagged by copyright. That charging issue on 800v is Tesla issue not the car as it happens to Ioniq 5/6, Kia EV6 as well in Europe on Superchargers as well, therefore I agree with Lucid and Hyundai/Kia same issue with any 800v car as has been shown by people using SC on their 800v cars in Europe.

RIP Lucid

If it wasn’t a 6 figure car I would say you were being too picky. But it does cost what it cost. With an elevated price tag comes elevated expectations.

Interesting he's in Fort Myers. Across the river in Cape Coral there's all of 1 Tesla Supercharger available, not really, unless you're a guest of the Marriott hotel it's located at. See the front desk to use it. The Tesla supercharging options in Fort Myers while better didn't look great either. Was thinking about renting a Hertz Tesla but yeah screw that. Really surprised Cape Coral a city of nearly a quarter-million people had one supercharger and it's for the exclusive use of guests of the hotel. You'll see quite a few EVs on the road too, they're all locals who charge at home. If you're a visitor who's traveling and are looking for a Supercharger in Cape Coral you are boned!

white man becomes bored with six figure toy that he knew had problems with.....

Lucid is a Grandpa Car. They’re also just not ready for prime time. Lol. Hope they’ve seen and learned from videos like yours, Dave. Thanks for posting. :)

Good video. Sorry about your experience with the CCS networks. I occasionally have had an issue but no more than when stuck in line at Costco for petrol for my Lexus.

I am so pleased my Lucid was returned in January. Like Dave, I hated the phone charger and only one worked so wife and I bickered on who gets it. About a foot shorter than Dave, I need easy entry & exit, and not sure if they finally added it. When the radio was playing, GPS instructions were fixed at the same volume so you can’t hear them. Agree with Dave that you want Waze on one display while other display shows route to DC Fast charger. Opening the charger door outside vehicle was a hit or miss operation. At $155K plus another $10K sales tax, it simply too much money to spend for all these quirks. While not perfect, my EQS 580 is so much better than Lucid. Adaptive cruise control with lane centering and automatic lane changing is outstanding. I love rear wheel steering, but some days miss the frunk and dislike nuisance start/stop button. Hey Dave, I could send you a really cute dog mode sign for the dashboard in case your next EV isn’t a Tesla. First world problems.

I get it. The DCFC networks have GOT to up their game. Hopefully the transition to NACS will ramp up quickly. I just wish the E-GMP cars would also finally decide to get on board.

I guess Dave's video's are now going to nick pick Tesla and the infrastructure. He may find out the grass may not always be greener.

The charging station in Florida sucks...

You list many wishes in the video…I wish Dave would keep a car for 1 FULL YEAR! Someone call Guinness Book of World Records (if) that happens 😂. Can you do a video recapping every car you have ever owned? That would get some views! What’s the Over/Under on the Model X Purchase?

So now I know that any new car he's excited about, he will be disappointed and ditch it soon.

Yeah I would not buy a BEV in the United States unless it has the NACS charger. CCS is dead. It would still be hard for me to buy anything but a Tesla right now