Chronos didn’t you know? Time is Money! And I have all of the money in the world!
@Ascarion12342 ай бұрын
But soon, Melinoë learned -- that Money is not Time.
@cocobard19282 ай бұрын
Ugh, return to shadow, now!
@dwightk.schrute86962 ай бұрын
You can get heroic chaos boons by getting the Duo that increases the LVL of your keepsakes and then equipping the chaos keepsake.
@kaanmuhammedgunes18792 ай бұрын
One way to make gold = damage boons more fun is to count the money gained instead of hoarded. Then as a downside lower the damage. "You deal extra damage equal to the +%10 of the money you've earned this run, -%50 damage from all other sources". This doesn't invalidate shops and still forces you to think out of the box.
@Andrews13channel2 ай бұрын
"you deal (and take) extra damage equal to x"
@Ballystical2 ай бұрын
Before people start coming in trying to argue with Dan's math. At 53:01 , the bag takes 681 damage broken down as follows: Formula = Base Damage * (Sum of Multipliers) + Golden Rule 681 = 25 * (1 + .50 + .29 + .15 + .14) + 629 Base Damage = 25 from specials Origination = .50 Uncommon Grace (Hera Boon) = .29 Dancing Knives (Hammer) = .15 Mean Streak (Hermes Boon) = .14 Golden Rule = 629 (12564 gold /100 * 5 = 628.2 rounded up to 629)
@PhilipAlexanderHassialis2 ай бұрын
Then the wording on the Golden Rule is wrong! It should read as "5 damage per 100g" not "+5% damage per 100g". The "5%" assumes that you take the damage you would have made without the golden rule (in that case 25 * (1 + .50 + .29 + .15 + .14) = 52 damage) and THEN do +5% per 100g on that 52. So 12564 gold /100 * 5 = 629 PER CENT. So 52 + 52*629% = 52 + 327.08 = 378. Since the video coincides with your calculations, this means that there is an error in the boon text. Incidentally, I would much rather prefer if it was 5% per 100g instead of "bonus 5 damage per 100g". Because then, damage, as "flat damage" should be subject to origination and other "damage augmenting" abilities/boons which would make the number skyrocket to the 10s of thousands. All in all the wording and the calculations in the game are VERY inconsistent. I would love to see the actual spreadsheet with base values and the calculation formulas that they probably have in SGG.
@gharn25942 ай бұрын
Yeah the tooltip is just wrong on this one and really it's just one simple mistake. It has a percent symbol on it. Should say "Bonus damage per 100 gold: +5". Not +5%. More correctly it could say "Bonus damage: 5% of current gold".
@PhilipAlexanderHassialis2 ай бұрын
@@gharn2594 Eff Ten then? :)
@gharn25942 ай бұрын
@@PhilipAlexanderHassialis Yep
@Razarex2 ай бұрын
12k gold is crazy and it could go way higher with Double Up, maxed out Moon Water gold, more Chaos
@trajanfalk92832 ай бұрын
Yeah I just had a run where I got 8k just through 2 chaos boons and a Poseidon boon. I wasn’t even trying to get that much, it just happened
@michaelsnickers39102 ай бұрын
The cast while charging Omega is a true gamechanger for me. Didnt know that before
@TheTrueCopyUniverse2 ай бұрын
I find great humor in the irony of Chronos is being beaten up by the very Gold that he stole, minted, and spread throughout the lands.
@oonanoodle28962 ай бұрын
Who wants to be a melinoenare?
@MentatRender2 ай бұрын
every dagger having enough damage to trigger blitz is nuts!! blitz should be thought of as how many hits to trigger. this was 2 (the minimum) on the fastest hitting weapon. nutz!
@gharn25942 ай бұрын
Except it was actually pretty bad. Blitz was only procing once per omega cast, so added very little for this build.
@majtravien43812 ай бұрын
@@gharn2594 then it wasn't skewing the results and was making it easy to see how much damage golden rule was adding
@salchipapa58432 ай бұрын
Dude, this was incredible, even though you definitely missed a pot of gold in one of the early rooms in Erebus. Big pot of gold too, see 45:00, on the left.
@NikRsmn2 ай бұрын
I just did this run myself earlier today. Fear 16 nothing crazy but I really enjoyed that it's in the game. you can play very differently and make use of all those odd boons that usually are low use. Makes for a fun odd run.
@TheJPEMTube2 ай бұрын
haven't tried it in the latest patch but you could exploit heracles and revenants for infinite money in the launch build, fun times
@sklt00n2 ай бұрын
It's insane that I didnt realize that I've watched an hour long video
@isaacashton57722 ай бұрын
This would have been crazy with the old staff’s special spam😮💨
@zachk052 ай бұрын
Thank you for uploading during Australian lunch time we all appreciate that
@user-xr7fw4ks2n2 ай бұрын
the way you explained it makes me think the devs forgot a set of parenthesis somewhere.
@Haelian2 ай бұрын
It essentially works the same as Hoarding Slash did in Hades 1 weirdly.
@greggp48402 ай бұрын
Weirdly, the enemies in the final fight drop money - but they *still* drop money with Deep Dissent. I've walked into the fight before and noticed little money piles where the removed enemies would have been.
@Dinklechad2 ай бұрын
THANK YOU HAELIAN
@RoboSparkle2 ай бұрын
Possibly something to think about after they rebalance the boons, but it could be interesting to do a run focusing on each of the duos - can they work, can they be fun, how much effort does it take to unlock their potential, etc? Cause you made a great point that it's a limiting boon in how you play to make the most of it, but you were clearly having fun!
@armangutierrez36972 ай бұрын
3:49 i do hope they patch the golden so that it would affect other sources of damage. either that or rephrase the boon description so that its clearer what type of damage it boosts
@msadventurecomedy2 ай бұрын
They should change the color of Quick Buck and other non-boon "boons" so it's easier to know what's what
@imad67772 ай бұрын
That was a fun watch, thanks Dan
@DonaldPrevie2 ай бұрын
First time I’ve reacted out loud a Haelian video “DONT TAKE IT!” On the Heavenly Flourish pick.
@taylorvannattan722 ай бұрын
I had a run once. Started off with the chaos boom for plus 165% gold, I couple rooms ahead I got a chaos gate. Chaos offered me a plus 155% gold boon. I immediately went towards getting the hera dou boon. Had 4k gold by start of Oceanus. Sad sad times.
@LuckyTrout2 ай бұрын
Is it just me or did hecate sheep orb get slowed by frigid sprint?
@lourensmalan24312 ай бұрын
Cyclone slows proj (you can see it very prominently in the chronos fight), cant recall if the tooltip says this
@tomhendriks83042 ай бұрын
is this a glitchless record? :P there is a way to get infinite money on doggo with the charm hex o.o already F10ed this one twice the medusa's he summons halfway gave me 80g/hex yday but I ran out of mana because of common born gain at ~4k gold :P
@torguetopher83842 ай бұрын
I'd like to see this build with the heroic aphro special along with the duo that makes all enemies "close". I think you could maybe reach 20-30k damage per omega special with that
@torguetopher83842 ай бұрын
^ I don't think the blitz special did the damage potential of this build justice
@Haelian2 ай бұрын
The additional damage from Golden Rule wouldn't be affected by the Aphrodite boon, it would be a mild increase at best (I explain this at the start of the video).
@torguetopher83842 ай бұрын
@@Haelian Ahhh I gotcha
@reboot33322 ай бұрын
Fyi changing the arcana cards will change the initial boon you see when starting a run.
@Annokh2 ай бұрын
Well, damn. That thumbnail really works somehow.
@ukiluser2 ай бұрын
I think the only enemies that dropped gold in the Fields were the miniboss and one of the dudes in the Cerby fight
@tanewby38612 ай бұрын
So I got the chaos Boone that you're talking about at the very beginning and I was in Tartarus and I got the three coins and decided to take it and it was $875 coins when I cashed it in
@jasperosterlund63082 ай бұрын
The money bag enemies give you money if they hit you with their beam. Just something To consider if you do something like this
@witox60282 ай бұрын
Perfect hat for billionaire run
@stevester5532 ай бұрын
Mourning Fields enemies did not drop any money at all. Inside and out of encounters
@rikkucrowe2 ай бұрын
Maybe I'll try this build once I max out my grasp I only just beat chronos for the first time
@Lbstee1232 ай бұрын
Watched live, hype. Ty haels
@shubhammarathe81862 ай бұрын
do enemies from further regions drop more gold? so that one fear vow would help?
@RoboSparkle2 ай бұрын
This is the timeline where Chronos wins - the Golden Age, exactly as he envisioned!
@pul5egaming3672 ай бұрын
Chronos when Melinoë the gold hoarder shows up:
@Dhieen2 ай бұрын
the omega cast is so slow i think they should make it faster, i rarely use it for that
@Purgingcrab2 ай бұрын
Midas moment
@vankuper2 ай бұрын
You get, and you get, and you get…
@doppelganger18722 ай бұрын
i farm 30k gold on surface form heracles with revenant but it take long time around 2h XD
@goodolarchie2 ай бұрын
There is something deeply appropriate of nearly two shotting p2 chronos by just hoarding money, but also not being able to spend it. In capitalism this is the equivalent of borrowing against your assets at an interest rate lower than those assets appreciate (eg. stock or real estate). So lenders are paying you to have more money that you also get to spend or use to lobby for lower taxes, without actually triggering any capital gain tax, because you didn't actually sell anything. Congrats on being the 0.01% wealthy! The ultrarich simply write their own rules because they write the politicians' checks.
@VivBrodock2 ай бұрын
It's not just about the money Mel. It's about the Mets go Mets
@MDoorpsy2 ай бұрын
39:30 I do like Binding of Isaac's money=power, but that game is different from Hades in that money is genuinely useless in the late game. Shops stop appearing past floor 6, and arcades aren't guaranteed, so it's fairly common to end runs with max money anyway.
@RubberGamesHD2 ай бұрын
Actually Deep Descent does give you gold for the enemies it takes away, it's like they die immediately instead of just not spawning
@sofdrink2 ай бұрын
does anyone know why he uses vow of forsaking here? it only makes it harder
@lourensmalan24312 ай бұрын
Theres a limited specific set of boons wanted from the gods (the money ones), as everything other than those are bad forsaken makes it so its easier to get the money ones
@Nighthawk200002 ай бұрын
Im confused, why is double up bad?
@sammygogo16592 ай бұрын
WAIT WHAT!!!
@uneededforlife2 ай бұрын
Thank you
@reboot33322 ай бұрын
Most broken boon in the game. My best was 11768 gold. I hope they dont nerf the Chaos Affluence boon...
@theduuuck90272 ай бұрын
dang man i managed to get ~5k once but this is crazy
@Genero2222 ай бұрын
This was a cool one
@Dhieen2 ай бұрын
Oh this is the jeff bezos run
@Kohcta2 ай бұрын
wow. but rolling for money in the earlier chambers? when in tartarus you can get triple coin, and most probably will have more chaos boons by that time.
@gharn25942 ай бұрын
Does anyone know if this works on Apollo's cast?
@Haelian2 ай бұрын
Most likely not (I have not tested).
@axllow39142 ай бұрын
I think this boon is useless in any run not centered around it. Think about it, you already have your build going and this gets randomly offered, why in the world would you start saving money when you could just get more boons or poms to help you out? Any damage you'd get from it is negligible, there's no way to just start saving up 4k gold halfway through a normal run.
@lucaswang98392 ай бұрын
is golden rule damage crit-able?
@Haelian2 ай бұрын
We think so? Have not confirmed.
@barelylooking2 ай бұрын
@@Haelian It is, judging from the code. It's the one way it's different from H1's Hoarding Slash.
@hilfazer2 ай бұрын
So much money and Chronos didn't notice. Disappointing.