Over a Century of Hate: Millwall vs West Ham
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Күн бұрынUnearth the century-old feud between England's bitter rivals. Entire movies have attempted to illustrate the hatred felt between the two clubs. And though leagues separate these clubs in the modern day, West Ham vs. Millwall is still one of the fiercest rivalries in the world. Let's explore the origins of this legendary derby and uncover the passion, pride, and animosity that define it. Remember to like and subscribe!
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⏱ Timestamps
00:00 Introduction
00:28 Millwall FC History
02:40 West Ham History
03:36 Why Millwall FC and West Ham Are Rivals
05:40 Avram Grant Millwall Legend
06:20 Traitors & Teddy Sheringham
07:46 When The Fighting Stops
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@culturefootball Жыл бұрын
FYI, I reached out to both West Ham and Millwall fans. Leave a like! For more English rivalries, CLICK HERE: tinyurl.com/5n7knrnt
@CIMAmotor Жыл бұрын
David Martin was always a West Ham fan, his father is Hammers' legend Alvin Martin.
@TheWESTSIDE1967 Жыл бұрын
I'm WEST HAM & respect millwall for what they did for that poor little girl 👏👏👏 if i wasn't an hammer they would of been my club by choice because of the numerous similarities, both dockers & an East End club originally based in isle of Dogs,were proper working class fans, a bit rougher & tougher than your other London clubs, the fans are exactly the same, bit like 2 twin brothers that although respect eachother just don't get on & will always fight 🇬🇧⚒
@rodlevicount9834 Жыл бұрын
Don't like the Bobby Moore songs though no need for that even just after he died ffs ⚒️
@TheWESTSIDE1967 Жыл бұрын
@@rodlevicount9834 100% they crossed the line ⚒
@Isleofskye Жыл бұрын
Good Luck and if I had been born on the "wrong" side of The River and not The Elephant and Castle then I would have been a Hammer:)
@Isleofskye Жыл бұрын
@@rodlevicount9834 As a Millwall fan, you are 100% right though I have a story about Bobby in his Pub at Stratford(?). My mate went up to him while there and eulogized over his England Captaincy and winning THe World Cup and was full of praise for Mooro and once he finished his monologue,the great Bobby turned to him and said " xxxk Off, I'm with my mates!"....A Treasured memory of the great Man:)
@rodlevicount9834 Жыл бұрын
@@Isleofskye well that aint good and a lot of players treat the fans with contempt specially these overpaid ones that we have nowadays. Bobby was before my time so Trevor Brooking is my all time hero and a gentleman with it. Just a shame he got too involved with the FA though.
@MapleLeafsarecanadasteam Жыл бұрын
Best channel on KZfaq for this content! Keep it up
@yoclickz353 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video man I thank you very much as I remember requesting this video from you! ♥
@culturefootball Жыл бұрын
Thanks for being so active.
@manuelmesa3910 Жыл бұрын
Good video dude! Keep it going!
@SomeRandomPunk Жыл бұрын
Great video man. Would love to see a video on the south coast derby. But every video so far has been very well made. Keep it up.
@culturefootball Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion!
@rustyrover8100 Жыл бұрын
Would’ve helped the narrative if you had a hammer supporter inform you too
@glympse4513 Жыл бұрын
Funny how the Millwall podcast man only chose to highlight the bad west ham hooligan incidents as if Millwall isn't nationally regarded as some of dirtiest fans
@spencergrout6320 Жыл бұрын
yeah literally hahahaha
@culturefootball Жыл бұрын
I decided what did and didn't feature. But next time I'll work on getting both sides on.
@paulies5407 Жыл бұрын
@@culturefootball Yeah, why you only got a knuckle dragger from millwall on is beyond me. I'm surprise the guy even has the IQ to turn on a computer.
@ThatMillwallPodcast Жыл бұрын
@@paulies5407 haha so original fella and to think you said my IQ low😂😂😂
@ThatMillwallPodcast Жыл бұрын
Haha you’ve been reading the sun too much fella, best behaved fans in the world.
@Isleofskye Жыл бұрын
Good Video though it was not emphasized that Millwall's 4th move was to leave East London altogether and move to SOUTH East London. It said "New Cross" but did not say where that was. Also, it was THe DOCKERS dispute early in the 20th Century that really caused the animosity as one set went on strike while the others continued to work.One last thing. That "AVRAM GRANT" banner was brilliant but it was not explained who he was. He was THe , existing,West Ham Manager who got them relegated:)
@prod.twnt2153 Жыл бұрын
great video mate
@allerielinston8516 Жыл бұрын
Great vid mate, was wondering if you'd make rivalries from other leagues as well
@culturefootball Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Next is Schalke vs. Dortmund. Turn on notifications!
@allerielinston8516 Жыл бұрын
@@culturefootball Yes sir!
@SirNilooo Жыл бұрын
I hope you do a special one on the Club America vs Chivas de Guadalajara rivalry 😉💯
@bermondseyboycbl9261 Жыл бұрын
We got harry Cripps from westhamsters but we all loved harry
@chairmanalf7856 Жыл бұрын
And Terry Hurlock. Billy Bonds also once managed you after leaving us.
@PublicVoodoo Жыл бұрын
There is alot more to the rivalry than just football. Alot of Millwall and West Ham supporters worked in the docks and shipbuilding yards and them workers all went on general strike in 1926 against the government due to pay and working conditions. Millwall supporting workers refused to lend their support and returned to work rather than stick it out which provoked mass outrage and violence. So its also a rivalry based on the economic situation of the time and the impact it had on the workers back then to provide adequately for their families which was stopped by Millwall supporters.
@essexanglosaxon3949 Жыл бұрын
I am west ham . But I think we are both very similar fans in culture. Maybe it's the docker connection. I respect millwall fans for thier loyalty . THATS IT COYI.
@Isleofskye Жыл бұрын
it was not emphasized that Millwall's 4th move was to leave East London altogether and move to SOUTH East London. It said "New Cross" but did not say where that was. Also, it was THe DOCKERS dispute early in the 20th Century that really caused the animosity as one set went on strike while the others continued to work. Good Luck and if I had been born on the "wrong" side of The River and not The Elephant and Castle then I would have been a Hammer:)
@essexanglosaxon3949 Жыл бұрын
@@Isleofskye if I was born deep saff I would be millwall. We ain't that different..cheers mate.
@Isleofskye Жыл бұрын
@@essexanglosaxon3949 Good Luck,mate:)
@mickrobinson6518 Жыл бұрын
I am Millwall through and through, 2 of my best mates are hammers..I hate Chelsea more than any other team.
@essexanglosaxon3949 Жыл бұрын
@@mickrobinson6518 I've got a millwall mate and he's a top bloke. SPURS I can't stand SPURS.
@patrickturner3999 20 күн бұрын
I've been a Millwall fan for most of my life, I've never hated West Ham or any other club, it's just a game of football.
@chairmanalf7856 Жыл бұрын
A lifelong West Ham supporter here. The Wigan relegation match was the penultimate match of the season, which had effectively relegated us. The last match of the season was at home to Sunderland, which we went on to lose 3-0. Personally, I’m pretty ambivalent towards Millwall and have no animosity towards them. The team I dislike the most is definitely Tottenham and always have done. All the best and I hope you achieve promotion at the end of this season.
@Isleofskye Жыл бұрын
Thanks Alf and I like your Vlogs even if I oo banter with you at times ,mate.
@chairmanalf7856 Жыл бұрын
@@Isleofskye 😂😉👍🏻
@ThatMillwallPodcast Жыл бұрын
that was a mistake but still the best bit of football banter ever though.
@paulc5935 Жыл бұрын
I’m a West Ham fan Respect for Isla My great great grandfather worked on Millwall docks in early 1900’s
@dev0nSA1nt 7 ай бұрын
I’m obsessed with this derby! It’s so interesting but not as violent as Saints vs Pompey (4-0❤️🤍❤️🤍)
@arejaycee5704 Жыл бұрын
Read somewhere that there are 2 lion ramparts on the Millwall badge to emphasis there links to Scotland.
@iainrae6159 Жыл бұрын
As my granny said, ' you can't beat culture'. Lets hope Millwall get promoted to the Premier league and bring some extra happiness to our lives.
@ijamesedit Жыл бұрын
Not looking likely mate, anchored in 6th ain't gonna do it.
@eddiegrimm9462 11 ай бұрын
next season maybe ?
@benkelly2968 Жыл бұрын
The rivalry really kicked off due to a dock strike
@WYM22 Жыл бұрын
No it never
@benkelly2968 Жыл бұрын
Yes it did
@paulies5407 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, this millwall knuckle dragger hasn't got a clue
@matthewcoombs3282 Жыл бұрын
That what I was told by a Millwall fan. The Dockers from The Surrey and West India Dock were Millwall (Rotherhide and Isle of Dogs) and Dockers from Royal Docks in Newham were West Ham. Not sure which is which, but one side supported the 1926 strike and another didnt and it caused some bad feeling between the two.
@TheWESTSIDE1967 11 ай бұрын
@@matthewcoombs3282 we both striked but millwall went back to work WEST HAM never hence the reason we call them SCUM 🇬🇧⚒
@niclin22 Жыл бұрын
Great vid, waiting for Schalke - BVB
@culturefootball Жыл бұрын
🔜
@WRBhammer Жыл бұрын
Good vid but definitely could've done with a more balanced approach
@Loki1815 10 ай бұрын
Any chance you could turn the Bass right up and make it more boomy!
@culturefootball 10 ай бұрын
Next time 😉
@hiitdon8630 Жыл бұрын
This is deep
@HR-3 Жыл бұрын
Both East London clubs by Origin Newham and Tower Hamlets boroughs. Obviously Millwall then relocated South London ground wise.
@monkeyharris2667 Жыл бұрын
Teddy sheringham was a West Ham United fan
@chairmanalf7856 Жыл бұрын
Correct. There was a childhood photograph of him wearing a West Ham light blue away kit with claret hoops. I found it on the internet a few years ago but it now seems to have been taken down.
@ayatmomyhi3725 Жыл бұрын
Continue
@Richthelionheart64 Жыл бұрын
All things have their day & these days I would be happier simply saying God bless Isla Caton & her family. 🙏🏼 You find in life, eventually you have to let things go.
@jlockers52 Жыл бұрын
Rate David Martin so highly 😂😂
@theeagle4118 Жыл бұрын
Funny when talking about the start of it all they don't mention that they were scabs
@ijamesedit Жыл бұрын
They wouldn't would they, I mean.... they're scabs after all. Also the bloke from Millwall killed in the 70's fell off a train platform. What one-sided tosh.
@MarknoblesAcidhouseparty Жыл бұрын
RIP Isla
@jonathanlongworth4590 Жыл бұрын
West Ham started as an Essex team . The old boundary was the river Lee ( Canning Town flyover ) there side was Essex our side was East London. It wasn’t until 1965 when the GLC moved the boundary to Barking that’s when they became an East London team Just saying 😂😂 MILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLWALL
@sepelinit1185 Жыл бұрын
lol
@harryfoley2294 7 ай бұрын
And you lot haven’t played actually played in Millwall for over 100 years, go figure that
@jonathanlongworth4590 6 ай бұрын
Your correct , however we still are the original East London team !!!
@dnbdevastator5786 Жыл бұрын
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@jamesianbarber Жыл бұрын
West Ham was not from East London it was from Essex
@daniellastuart3145 Жыл бұрын
no I got told by a Millwall fan the hated started over a Dock strike were Millwall went on strike and Teams Iron works did not it got nothing to with football this game has always been bigger for Millwall fans
@TheWESTSIDE1967 Жыл бұрын
Wrong both Thames ironworks & millwall went on strike ,but millwall returned to work while we still striked hence the reason we call them SCUM 🇬🇧⚒
@summercoat Жыл бұрын
Yes and no. Both docks were on strike, but it was the Millwall dockers who broke the strike.
@benisbonus Жыл бұрын
Your mate got it wrong, the dockers strike was mostly West Ham fans. The rumour says it was the Millwall fans that didn't strike alongside them
@ChrisBrown_1959 Жыл бұрын
It was the Millwall dockers, mainly from Scotland that walked through the picket lines hence the hatred. There was hatred before that but the dockers strike made it a lot worse.
@daniellastuart3145 Жыл бұрын
@@summercoat ok
@antonjames8589 11 ай бұрын
Millwall run from no one milllllll
@lewisstubbs6569 Жыл бұрын
This video feels very much like why they hate eachother but only from a Millwall perspective. Needed a bit more of a fairer two sided argument here.
@justin2897 Жыл бұрын
I am Millwall & teddy is a legend fact
@TheWESTSIDE1967 Жыл бұрын
& WEST HAM ⚒
@HePlaysThePiano Жыл бұрын
Several people die EVERY time Celtic and Ranges play in Glasgow .... i think the average figure is six people die due to football related violence according to the Scottish Gov figures. No messing about in Glasgow. Currently there are no away fans permitted in either ground atm. Mostly always noon kick off's to ensure people are still half asleep etc ...
@Ledoux26 3 ай бұрын
Portsmouth and southampton next please
@MarshyGoose Жыл бұрын
when is luton v watford
@culturefootball Жыл бұрын
We're moving away from England for now. Next is Schalke vs Dortmund.
@joshuavernege5586 Жыл бұрын
Millwall forever in our shadow
@michaelharrison3602 Жыл бұрын
Don't talk such bollocks dear
@davidc4849 2 ай бұрын
Millllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
@WA4AndyShaw Жыл бұрын
Unbalanced and the narrator's voice is way too deeeeeeeep. Had to turn the bass down on my woofer 😂
@DamnedDave Жыл бұрын
COYL
@dannybrown4699 Жыл бұрын
wrong
@eddiebirch2067 Жыл бұрын
Should of fought for their streets not the stupid football
@sepelinit1185 Жыл бұрын
Both are a waste of time
@robj8201 Жыл бұрын
There was a natural local rivalry but it became what it is because of a strike at the docks…⚒
@Mute040404 Жыл бұрын
Local historians & the Museum of London Docklands say there's no evidence of this claim. The Dockers went wherever the work was, be it north or south of the pipe
@ThatMillwallPodcast Жыл бұрын
the strike being to blame is a myth
@barrywright3895 11 ай бұрын
Load of bollocks
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