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Күн бұрын

While I can appreciate the desire of the manufacturer of this style of bulb to make production cheaper, I think they may have gone too far.
The usual spring contact inserts that connect to the smoothing capacitor and the incoming supply have been replaced with direct solder connections that are disturbingly close to the aluminium substrate of the panel.
Add a good splash of glue that has completely obscured one of the LEDs and you have a low class bulb that has a high risk of failing with a bang due to poor electrical separation and heat.
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@stillraven9415
@stillraven9415 Жыл бұрын
It is hard to get quality children to build lights these days.
@RS-Amsterdam
@RS-Amsterdam Жыл бұрын
They will learn when they turn 7
@hornetIIkite3
@hornetIIkite3 Жыл бұрын
​@@RS-Amsterdam most don't survive that long
@stillraven9415
@stillraven9415 Жыл бұрын
@@RS-Amsterdam 🤣🤣🤣
@dabyd64
@dabyd64 Жыл бұрын
They work in factories illuminated using the same leds they produce. Originally they were top quality stuff, but when the first one failed it caused an unstoppable chain reaction, the lucky ones are working with candles now.
@MichaelBeeny
@MichaelBeeny Жыл бұрын
Yes, the 2 minuets of training seem to have been completely waisted.
@ConstantlyDamaged
@ConstantlyDamaged Жыл бұрын
Ooh, these are lovely. So short lifespan, dry joints (don't think I didn't notice that lead) on the incoming wires, and every now and again you'll have a free explosion. So nice!
@SnabbKassa
@SnabbKassa 11 ай бұрын
Free fireworks from the Chinese Communist Party. Coming to an ocean near you?
@jayseabie215
@jayseabie215 Жыл бұрын
So much for LEDs being the great long lasting low energy alternative to the old incandescent bulbs.
@Onequietvoice
@Onequietvoice Жыл бұрын
They are - from my experience. I have had no failures and have not had to buy a bulb for replacement in years.
@MLX1401
@MLX1401 Жыл бұрын
I live in a old, 6-store apartment building. The staircase was lit with incandescent lamps that now have been replaced with E27 led bulbs. Unsurprisingly, the landlord buys the cheapest they can find; a single bulb rarely lasts more than a couple of months. When covid restrictions hit I got annoyed by constant "blackouts" and fitted the fixture from my floor with a German brand bulb. It has been going ever since. The "cheap" bulbs are a total scam 😆
@Onequietvoice
@Onequietvoice Жыл бұрын
@@MLX1401 I too was a landlord - I replaced all the incandescet bulbs in both my buildings because I knew the tenants could not afford to. The compact flourescents I bought were disappointing - they were fragile and did not last as long as advertised. As they failed I replaced them with LEDs which were at that time getting cheaper and better. I left LEDs with tenants whose compact flourescents had survived. They (the LED's) never failed.
@MLX1401
@MLX1401 Жыл бұрын
@@Onequietvoice Nice to hear that ☺Indeed led bulbs are way better than CFLs, and generally do last a long time! My point was, that if the intent is to save money, cheap bulbs (like shown here on this video) are a poor choice as they're made to fail and need to be constantly replaced.
@Onequietvoice
@Onequietvoice Жыл бұрын
Agreed - just sharing my experience.@@MLX1401
@jkobain
@jkobain Жыл бұрын
- _It's quite a fun watching it evolve._ Said Clive with distinguishable pain in his voice.
@charllectric4842
@charllectric4842 Жыл бұрын
3:50 What a nice way for Clive to tell us without telling us which brand to avoid at all costs 😂
@gregorythomas333
@gregorythomas333 Жыл бұрын
I am really unhappy with the current (pun intended) trend of bare-bones LED lamps...low voltage light strings...fairy lights...are one thing but running mains power like this is uncool.
@maxcady7136
@maxcady7136 Жыл бұрын
Non-dimmable LED lamps are the worst.
@shanejohns7901
@shanejohns7901 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. I know that's the name of the game -- cost cutting. But there should be a 'best practices' level that they're not supposed to go below, because it is dangerous to either the life of the product (eg. 'Planned Obsolescence'...don't get me started on that one...) or to humans or pets. Whoever made the decision to import that shoddy work into the UK should be told about it. If it has an agency's name stamped on it, contact them. For example, "UL" might mean 'Underwriters Laboratories'. They can put pressure on the manufacturers to improve their standards, or they can let the government know to disallow it when it comes in through customs. Too many people would settle for an increased risk of a fire hazard if it just means that they can get their bulb for 30% cheaper. And fires spread to responsible people too. So it becomes an issue that needs to be addressed, rather than this 'buyer beware' mentality.
@getcartercarpark.
@getcartercarpark. Жыл бұрын
An EXTREMELY good point made by Clive of typical cost-cutting that results in dangerous products being sold by companies with no safety checking of the goods they sell and probably no recourse if anyone is hurt by any of the goods they sell!! KW.
@paulblitz
@paulblitz Жыл бұрын
I don't see any safety issue, it's all well enclosed. Definitely going to potentially reduce product lifetime though
@hanifarroisimukhlis5989
@hanifarroisimukhlis5989 Жыл бұрын
@@paulblitz Yeah until it's time to replace it. Hope you got the mains fuse open.
@309electronics5
@309electronics5 Жыл бұрын
They usualy also just put a Qc sticker on it and call it a day usualy
@CollectiveSoftware
@CollectiveSoftware Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see those dangling components prodded with a non-conductive probe to see how little jostling could move the leads into shorting range
@Shaun.Stephens
@Shaun.Stephens Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this Clive. I really appreciate the effort you go to to keep uploading even when you're away from home. You'll get to 1 million subscribers soon, you deserve it!
@TheHookUp
@TheHookUp Жыл бұрын
I just did a test of all the bestselling bulbs on Amazon and the filament LED style bulbs were standouts as far as quality (low flicker, good CRI, good dimming curves). It seems strange that we are so focused on shaving a few cents off the cost of something that's supposed to have a long lifespan and rarely be replaced. There has to be a happy medium between the Dubai bulbs and junk like the bulb in this video.
@ulwur
@ulwur Жыл бұрын
That'll be the IKEA Lamps. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g5ehl8WXyNvNhnU.html
@linuxranch
@linuxranch Жыл бұрын
May be Dubai lights should be the standard "everywhere"!
@teresashinkansen9402
@teresashinkansen9402 Жыл бұрын
Is the chinese way. The irony is that in the long run it ends up being more expensive uses more resources and produces so much e-waste.
@Lizlodude
@Lizlodude Жыл бұрын
I've recently been reminded of the same thing with clocks. We've had quite cheap clock chips with accuracy far beyond anything a normal user needs, you'll almost certainly have a power outage or just accidentally unplug it before it drifts by a measurable amount. But do we see those in basically any consumer clocks? Nope. All still the cheapest possible oscillators and they drift by far too much.
@greentjmtl
@greentjmtl Жыл бұрын
@@teresashinkansen9402 Yes the evil Chinese brainwashed all the consumers into picking the $1.95 bulb over the $2 bulb on the shelf, no blame on the consumer at all, zero, nada.
@letstalkaboutcars2998
@letstalkaboutcars2998 Жыл бұрын
Oh BigClive, you’ve outdone yourself on this one-this really did live up to the title, you never fail to impress with the trashiest electronics available. It’s hard to tell how this legitimately gets away with being sold in this country!
@downtheshedwithjason
@downtheshedwithjason Жыл бұрын
i recently bought a 4foot strip light from toolstation, 14 quid with samsung led strip light. its flipping awesome for hte price point. been left on in me shed for last week continuously and no heat and working as it did day i wired it in. bloody excellent value and quality for 14 quid
@rpdom
@rpdom Жыл бұрын
The evolution of the LED lamp has indeed been amazing. I'm wondering how much further they can go? LED chips with built in voltage regulators and rectifiers so all you need is a string of LEDs? Or even one large chip... but that would probably get too hot unless the efficiency can be improved to get rid of the heat.
@Scodiddly
@Scodiddly Жыл бұрын
A "blob chip" covered with clear goop?
@CraftMine1000
@CraftMine1000 Жыл бұрын
​@@Scodiddlyi can imagine clear COB led strips being one of the first uses
@5umyn0n4
@5umyn0n4 Жыл бұрын
yeah it is pretty amazing. i can remember when they banned regular light bulbs in the eu and it was a real problem as the old energy saving lamps were just toxic trash and leds were just flickery and unpleasant... and then leds just became good and the problem was solved. kinda worried though this is beeing misinterpreted by some as a surefire way of how electric cars are gonna go...just pretty sure banning stuff and getting a miracle isnt going to happen again
@fredfred2363
@fredfred2363 Жыл бұрын
@scodiddly... Good idea. Quicker assembly too.
@SeanBZA
@SeanBZA Жыл бұрын
You already get led drivers with the built in bridge rectifier and the buck regulator all in one package. 2 pins for mains, 2 for the capacitor and then 2 for the coil and sense resistor. Only problem is it is a SO8 package, with the mains inputs 0.8mm apart
@markiangooley
@markiangooley Жыл бұрын
Dollar Tree here in the USA, which now sells most items at US$1.25, has not had LEDs at any location I’ve visited in the past three or four months. If they start selling them again I fear they’ll be horrible ones.
@ben--
@ben-- Жыл бұрын
My local Dollar Tree still stocks LED bulbs, though only in 60w eq A19 and BR30 and 40w eq G30 and C17). I haven't bought one from them in a while, I may get one now just to see how bad they've gotten, especially now that incandescent bulbs are fully banned in the USA. My local 99 Cent store also has LEDs, including 100w eq LEDs for only $2 each.
@piconano
@piconano Жыл бұрын
IKEA makes good LED bulbs and lamps. Have many for years and no problems. 2xPack for $2 Canadian is pretty nice too.
@michaelcalvin42
@michaelcalvin42 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see they didn't cost-cut the fusible resistor. You're gonna need that.
@SeanBZA
@SeanBZA Жыл бұрын
Soon enough they will go with a fake fusible resistor, with a regular 0.25W film resistor in the shrink sleeve. After all, got to save that 0.1c cost between fusible and non fusible paint.
@309electronics5
@309electronics5 Жыл бұрын
Shhh dont give them any ideas!!
@andygozzo72
@andygozzo72 Жыл бұрын
@@SeanBZA i have a cheapo usb 'charger' that has no form of fuse on the mains input at all, apart from the thin wires going to the plug pins,, theres a place on the pcb for a fuse but not fitted, linked across 😁
@ben--
@ben-- Жыл бұрын
@@SeanBZA Or they'll just do what the cheap power adaptor manufacturers do and put a thin, squiggly PCB trace between the incoming line connection and the circuit. That way, they shave an entire component off the BOM.
@SeanBZA
@SeanBZA Жыл бұрын
@@ben-- Cheaper is to simply use thinner wire, 3 strands will act like a fuse anyway, saving precious copper on the PCB, and also saving on that very expensive wire as well, as you cut the copper cost to a quarter.
@PenryMMJ
@PenryMMJ Жыл бұрын
Nice video as always, but I was hoping to see some extra fine Sharpie lines on the schematic to accurately represent those dodgy input connections. 😁🔥
@GenaTrius
@GenaTrius Жыл бұрын
1:54 Notice he doesn't say "reverse engineer" since this thing isn't really "engineered." He just says "reverse this lamp" as it's a horrible thing meant to be undone
@charliesoffer
@charliesoffer Жыл бұрын
Hi Clive!! Highly entertaining video, as ever. Would be hilarious if you offered the manufacturers a right to reply channel on youtube :) Sending much love X
@davidmiller3709
@davidmiller3709 Жыл бұрын
Thinking about it, in the house the key lighting is incandescent, hall, bathroom, living room, lounge, main areas on dimmers, intermittent dwell time not so. The back-up lighting, wall lights, bedrooms, porch lights, are LED. The bedroom lobby has a PAR 38 armoured spot which throws down a lot of heat for winter dressing on cold mornings. The kitchen has a 40W fluorescent strip which is over 40 years old. Edit: the point being that the main lighting is seldom used so there was less incentive to go to the expense of changing to CF or now LED for the sake of it. EditEdit: don’t get me started on ‘smart’…
@FrontSideBus
@FrontSideBus Жыл бұрын
I was in the Imperial War Museum in Manchester today and I was quite surprised, and pleased to see halogen MR16 lamps still being used in 2023! They were decent GE ones to.
@manolisgledsodakis873
@manolisgledsodakis873 Жыл бұрын
To what?
@quantumleap359
@quantumleap359 Жыл бұрын
@@manolisgledsodakis873 I suppose "decent GE ones to boot". Hahahaha
@Giorgal
@Giorgal Жыл бұрын
What a coincidence. The main LED lamp in my room just blew off a couple of minutes ago lmao.
@dimitar4y
@dimitar4y Жыл бұрын
i saw that cutout "wtf. NOoh!" like, upset a very upset "no" with a "please" on top.
@davidpowell9965
@davidpowell9965 Жыл бұрын
I've had good luck with Bell's GU10s, the glass ones. I like the 3000K ones in the kitchen
@acmefixer1
@acmefixer1 Жыл бұрын
Wow. 😢 So disappointing. They've eliminated the capacitive dropper capacitor, which cuts a substantial amount of parts cost, and substituted a silicon chip in its place. There's no current limiting resistor, just the chip. And then they cut corners and compromised safety. The only thing I can think of that's worse are those 'corn cob' lights where the LEDs are exposed so they and their leads can be touched with the fingers. If you look at the good side, these lights have a built-in spark gap for overvoltage protection. It's just kind of unknown how big the spark gap might be, and consequently how much that overvoltage is.
@johndododoe1411
@johndododoe1411 Жыл бұрын
The simplistic capacitive dropper design with no smoothing capacitor was such a nice low cost idea, it was even dimmable as there was no counteracting regulator . It had a bad power factor though, but getting the LED count near maximum would improve that while allowing a cheaper capacitor . The fusible resistor would need to be replaced by an NTC or induction inrush limiter .
@andygozzo72
@andygozzo72 Жыл бұрын
@@johndododoe1411maybe the chips have become cheaper than suitably rated capacitors, now... of course if the chip fails short, 350v ish dc shoved into a line of leds with no current limiting apart from hopefully a fuse or fusible resistor, something will go bang well ... maybe 'cause the power factor was poor, regulations have banned them? like its now almost impossible to get 'plug sized' and even small 'brick' linear psus due to 'energy inefficiency' .. i heard the EU banned them ...
@rovhalgrencparselstedt8343
@rovhalgrencparselstedt8343 Жыл бұрын
A few years from now, consumer electronics will be so cost cutted and atrociously low quality that you'll have to buy a new led lamp, fridge, freezer, microwave, stove, stereo, radio, amplifier, speaker, car, everything on basically a daily basis. And electronic components will likely be made impossible to get for the individual to prevent you from building somethijng higher quality yourself.
@idjtoal
@idjtoal Жыл бұрын
With everything on subscription, and relying on "cloud" servers that are shut off after a few years, bricking entire product lines.
@andygozzo72
@andygozzo72 Жыл бұрын
its already coming harder to get traditional wire ended components , many newer chips only available in smt packages although can sometimes get smd to dil adaptor pcbs
@Palmit_
@Palmit_ Жыл бұрын
it's been absolutely brill to see you, BC, bring a number of vids that weren't just "off the stack" from the archive. Thanks man. Sincerely. :) Aside, the led lamps..whilst they are mega prevalent... how can we, without taking them home to test, avoid these shoddy money wasters? is there anything on the packaging which we might be able to get a hint from? Thanks again :)
@mikepanchaud1
@mikepanchaud1 Жыл бұрын
The low price and the unknown brand is your warning.
@idjtoal
@idjtoal Жыл бұрын
Where it says "Made in China" ?
@mikepanchaud1
@mikepanchaud1 Жыл бұрын
@@idjtoal Good quality brands such as Phillips are made in China.
@xdarestx
@xdarestx Жыл бұрын
I fear that this is only going to get worse.
@Slovenec5
@Slovenec5 Жыл бұрын
Fortunately there's not much left to cut off
@Rob_III
@Rob_III Жыл бұрын
C'mon! Don't keep us hangin'! Make it go *BOOM*! As always, great video. Love your channel, never miss a video.
@Lizlodude
@Lizlodude Жыл бұрын
And on top of all that, such a nice cold solder joint vaguely attaching that neutral lead directly beside the AL PCB lol
@billdoodson4232
@billdoodson4232 Жыл бұрын
You are providing a public service Clive. Another one to avoid buying. Hope the IOM is treating you well. My brother is coming back to the Big Island after 30 years, fortunately I still have another relative who lives there, for when I come over for the TT.
@quantumleap359
@quantumleap359 Жыл бұрын
Depending on the retailer selling these cheapo lamps, they could go "Bang!good"
@paranoiia8
@paranoiia8 Жыл бұрын
One-use light bulb. What a time to be alive 😂
@BarneySaysHi
@BarneySaysHi Жыл бұрын
One of the incoming wires looks like a cold solder as well. I wonder how long that is going to last before the resistance, thus the heat coming from it, of it will melt the solder?
@channelsixtyseven067
@channelsixtyseven067 Жыл бұрын
Oh well, "Minim" should be anyone's Don't Buy List. Never thought I'd see mains-powered turds that you can hang from a ceiling.
@Onequietvoice
@Onequietvoice Жыл бұрын
When i first switched from incandescents the only alternatives were compact flourescents, they were expensive, fragile and did not last as long as advertised. Then LED's started to appear- again very expensive at first but tough, gave good light and lasted ... well I do not know how long. I have not bought a replacement bulb in 4 years and I still have unopened boxes. They were still quite expensive when I bought them but they were and are good value.
@CanizaM
@CanizaM Жыл бұрын
When I saw the socketed capacitors and input connections on the previous LED bulbs, I thought "that's probably going to disappear sometime"... and unfortunately I was right.
@ehsnils
@ehsnils Жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for the version where they only have LEDs and a capacitor in series to limit the current.
@stalkerfromvoronezh4493
@stalkerfromvoronezh4493 Жыл бұрын
Already exists.
@andygozzo72
@andygozzo72 Жыл бұрын
@@stalkerfromvoronezh4493 earlier leds lamps did use this idea and worked ok, just they had poor power factor, maybe they got 'banned' because of this?
@Xitrial
@Xitrial 9 ай бұрын
When I remodeled my kitchen 8 years ago, I put some led lights like the one in this video (the type, not the quality), and haven't had the need to change them yet. On the other hand some other led lights around the house bought on recent years have failed more than once
@user-gx6jb6wc5g
@user-gx6jb6wc5g 9 ай бұрын
The older LED bulbs were more reliable than recent ones.
@amorphuc
@amorphuc Жыл бұрын
Thanks Big Clive. Dang. That sure is some real cost cutting and "not caring" in this example. I mean, the little sockets that the capacitor and line wires would go into must cost like a couple cents on the mass produced scale if that? Wow. Scary.
@leongyokeloong5083
@leongyokeloong5083 3 ай бұрын
"This is the future of LED lightings"....and the future is NOW..haha..thanks Clive.
@thepagan5432
@thepagan5432 Жыл бұрын
Do you think that the manufacturer is aware of the really shoddy assembly of the light ? It would not take much to make the lamp conform to a sensible standard, it just seems so short sighted. Good post, thank you 👍
@jamesbrown4092
@jamesbrown4092 Жыл бұрын
My first thought was 'electroBOOM', then I thought, "No, it's more like 'electroKABOOM'."
@GMMilambar
@GMMilambar Жыл бұрын
while not related directly to the video, I found googles auto-generated subtitles for this one to be hilarious. They translated "Bridge Rectifier" to "Bridge Wrecked In Fire". I wonder if it was a fire started by one of these bulbs...
@zh84
@zh84 Жыл бұрын
Those holes through the circuit board are a sort of unintentional plated through-hole 🙂
@CaveyMoth
@CaveyMoth 10 ай бұрын
That silicone glue over the LED diode is an intentional design decision. It is a physical dimmer!
@roberttaylor2328
@roberttaylor2328 Жыл бұрын
Last year, I finally purchased some LED lamps that matched my long standing vision of what form these things should take. So disappointing, for so long.
@chuuni6924
@chuuni6924 Жыл бұрын
I'd love it if you had a look at some of IKEA's LED bulbs. I've had very good experience with them myself, as I'm using quite a few of them and not a single one has gone bad for many years now, while at the same time they actually tend to be cheaper than the competition.
@MakeDataUseful
@MakeDataUseful Жыл бұрын
I was hoping you were going to show us it going boom :D
@SidecarBob
@SidecarBob Жыл бұрын
Suggestion: I'd like to see what's inside a rechargeable battery backup LED light bulb. They work like normal bulbs but if the power goes out they run from their internal batteries for several hours. What's really neat is that during a power outage you can turn the light on & off from the wall switch or unscrew bulb, screw it into the provided base (with switch) to use as a portable light.
@user-gx6jb6wc5g
@user-gx6jb6wc5g Жыл бұрын
I've featured a few of the intelligent bulbs.
@twerkingfish4029
@twerkingfish4029 Жыл бұрын
Ahh yes, progress.
@caseyrevoir
@caseyrevoir Жыл бұрын
Diggin' the bench.
@user-gx6jb6wc5g
@user-gx6jb6wc5g Жыл бұрын
Table in digs while traveling with work.
@Ekriirke
@Ekriirke Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see it go boom if you could bend one of those leads just ever so much?
@jackvisn
@jackvisn Жыл бұрын
I see a pattern here. It appears that many products have components such as earths that have been omitted in manufacturing. My guess is that either a design was copied or a proper model was presented to get UL, CSA approval then upon production safeguards were omitted to save pennies...at the cost of safety.
@richardbriansmith8562
@richardbriansmith8562 Жыл бұрын
Awesome Video Big Clive🙂
@CNCmachiningisfun
@CNCmachiningisfun Жыл бұрын
If THIS is the future of lighting, then we are in line for another Dark Age!
@Club_Michas
@Club_Michas Жыл бұрын
i just modified my LEDs a few days ago, The 7W COB LEDs failed so I bought 10W COB LEDS and soldered them in instead. The 10W COB LEDs run a little bit cooler than the 7W so I hope they will last longer by limiting the 10W Chips to 7W
@gavincurtis
@gavincurtis Жыл бұрын
MAXIM factory executive meeting next day: The beatings will commence until morale improves.
@hi-tech-guy-1823
@hi-tech-guy-1823 Жыл бұрын
Yay For "Brun my House Down LEDs & Null Void your House insurance "
@ShadowzGSD
@ShadowzGSD Жыл бұрын
does that really meet the requirement to be CE marked? did not notice if it had UKCA on it, got to think twice about the safety of everything else if this passed.
@marcogenovesi8570
@marcogenovesi8570 Жыл бұрын
CE marking is a self-certification (i.e. the manufacturer saying "trust me bro"), so it's not a guarantee of anything these days. You must look only for actual electrical certification done from third parties and hope the manufacturer didn't just print the symbol on the box/product, as chinese manufacturers often do
@samuelchamberlain2584
@samuelchamberlain2584 Жыл бұрын
I thought ukca was just rebadged ce mark
@phonotical
@phonotical Жыл бұрын
I've never heard of maxim before and looking at this product, I can see why
@dogwalker666
@dogwalker666 Жыл бұрын
Actually they have been around for a very long time, However like most companies the build quality has gone down the toilet recently.
@Mark1024MAK
@Mark1024MAK Жыл бұрын
Maxim used to make reasonable cost and reasonable quality filament lamps.
@phonotical
@phonotical Жыл бұрын
@@Mark1024MAK let's be fair though, it's pretty hard to fuck up a filament lamp
@Mark1024MAK
@Mark1024MAK Жыл бұрын
@@phonotical - not having a gas tight seal makes the illumination “interesting” for a few seconds… 🤣 Also, it’s been known before for the weld that attaches the filament to the support and supply wires not to be properly done, resulting in the filament falling off… Although both of these faults were seen in other manufacturers lamps.
@phonotical
@phonotical Жыл бұрын
@user-dl6pn9kp8m with machinery to match!
@ianphilip6281
@ianphilip6281 Жыл бұрын
When everything had gone to shit we'll just have to make our own. Get the features they should already have from the get go then: No flicker, No ghosting, Extraordinarily long life, Good colour rendering, Efficiency, Low temperature, Quality components, Sturdy build, No EMI emission, No shitty cold solder joints, Sound electrical design, Pricing that doesn't represent greed or corner cutting. In some respects once it has gone to a pile of jobbies anybody can takeover the market by not putting out instatrash grade bulbs. Awesome!
@andygozzo72
@andygozzo72 Жыл бұрын
no emi emission would be very difficult as for best power efficiency it'd have to be a switching regulator , low temperature also difficult as watts are watts, all these would make it extremely expensive and not a viable business if people only buy it once!
@ianphilip6281
@ianphilip6281 Жыл бұрын
@@andygozzo72 harsh reality spoils my fun daydream again. Fair points though.
@MattiaFabbri
@MattiaFabbri Жыл бұрын
Next short: "Dirty cheap lamp goes bang!"
@45KevinR
@45KevinR Жыл бұрын
It feels safe to set the box on fire to get some light. It might even last longer... PS: have you ever made a list/video of LEDs actually worth buying?
@user-gx6jb6wc5g
@user-gx6jb6wc5g Жыл бұрын
The best bulbs are the ones you hack to reduce their power and extend their life.
@iamdarkyoshi
@iamdarkyoshi Жыл бұрын
Oh jeez, that's horrid It'd be a tiny bit better if they made the pads not near the edge of the PCB and ran the insulated part of the wires up onto the top But that'd be too much spent on wire, can't do that
@SnabbKassa
@SnabbKassa 11 ай бұрын
Video idea: LEDARE GX53 600 lm (dimming/adjustable beam angle) teardown. Some people say the dimming fails mechnically or electrically and that they don't last. They go in the Stockholm lamps.
@dglcomputers1498
@dglcomputers1498 Жыл бұрын
The moment I saw the folded over mains wires I thought "bang!", not a good design decision. On the other hand I've had an IKEA Solhetta LED bulb fail with proabably less than 30mins of use on it, only brought a couple of weeks ago and used as a landing light in a property we have not moved into yet.
@PaulSteMarie
@PaulSteMarie Жыл бұрын
Is/was Maxim a reputable brand in the UK? In the US the primary reputable brands are Sylvania/OSRAM, Phillips, and Cree, while the large disreputable brands are GE and Feit. I track lifespan of bulbs by simply writing the installation date on the back of the bulb with a marker. GE and Feit rarely last more than six months, while the other three typically last at least five years.
@user-gx6jb6wc5g
@user-gx6jb6wc5g Жыл бұрын
It's a cheap brand here.
@7XxZz7
@7XxZz7 Жыл бұрын
Saw the title card wrong... seriously thought for a moment that you had wired a slice of banana into a flood light 😂
@2down4up
@2down4up Жыл бұрын
Who here has ever had an LED house lamp last anywhere near even half of the rated 50,000 hours? Heck even a quarter of the 50,000 hours? I know I certainly haven’t. All the lights in my house are brand name LED bulbs and all except for the Hue lights get changed due to failure every 2 or 3 years. The Hue might be the only ones that get close to that rating but add they’re only 12 years old, they’ve got to last another 18 or so years to even be considered close to that many hours.
@mernokimuvek
@mernokimuvek Жыл бұрын
I know about several people who lave 1980s fluorescent tubes in 1960s fixtures wtill working. They will outlive any cheap chinese lamp made these days.
@chickenwing111
@chickenwing111 Жыл бұрын
the RAB stuff is quite good
@dogwalker666
@dogwalker666 Жыл бұрын
Especially with that dry joint on the mains supply wire.
@shaunclarke94
@shaunclarke94 Жыл бұрын
Is the aluminium core bonded to anything or floating? If it's floating it should be fine if only one wire shorts to it?
@general0ne
@general0ne Жыл бұрын
Seeing them evolve? It seems more like seeing them devolve.... I have quite a few "old" first-gen LED lamps around the house (they're fairly horrible - cold white, not the brightest) after all this time, they still work. I've had much newer bulbs fail after a few months to a year.
@mikewillis1592
@mikewillis1592 Жыл бұрын
Are you sure it isn't counterfeit? I doubt that would pass safety regulations.
@SkaBob
@SkaBob Жыл бұрын
We bought some walmart brand led lights and they were terrible, one lasted a few hours and the others died with in weeks. Should have saved them and sent them in for dissection. What's weird is some of the led bulbs we bought 8 years ago are still working in other fixtures, seems they are designing them now to fail as quickly as possible.
@user-gx6jb6wc5g
@user-gx6jb6wc5g Жыл бұрын
They are. They've genuinely engineered them to fail fast.
@mernokimuvek
@mernokimuvek Жыл бұрын
Many people in Central and Eastern European countries have 1980s fluorescent tubes in 1960s fixtures still working. As long as I can but fluorescent lamps I will not replace them with LED.
@spectrHz
@spectrHz Жыл бұрын
Im sure this has been asked before in some way, but could you do a reccomendation for an inexpensive and accessible ionizer for the home? I have not had much luck with the cheapy wall plug ones and am looking for one that is a robust design that doesnt need too much deeply involved maintenance like my last one. Thanks!
@mattmoreira210
@mattmoreira210 Жыл бұрын
Another step in the devolution of LED lamps lol
@CutterElectronics
@CutterElectronics Жыл бұрын
fun watching it evolve, wow, deadly bulb adding to the global landfill, magnificent
@GeomancerHT
@GeomancerHT Жыл бұрын
Having just one resistor doesn't make it more easier to hack but shouldn't make it more flexible if hacked? a variable resistor would work to make it dimmable? could you show?
@andrewprettyquick2070
@andrewprettyquick2070 Жыл бұрын
I just have two prongs wired to the grid and if it's dark, I throw an eco warrior on them.
@twocvbloke
@twocvbloke Жыл бұрын
Cost cutting to meet a profit point, because money makes the world go round the u-bend... :P
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 Жыл бұрын
I wish you would do a collab with your local trading standards guys (or building regs !!)
@matthewhopson964
@matthewhopson964 Жыл бұрын
Very worthy Clive but is it dangerous (enough)? You'd have grabbed me right away if you'd have included the term "Death Trap" in the title. As it is I'll probably watch it tomorrow.
@FerralVideo
@FerralVideo Жыл бұрын
Gotta love how they're still marketing these on the branding of efficiency and long life when both of those traits have long ago been destroyed by overcheapening. How much more before an older CFL (you know, the ones they're banning) is both longer lasting and more efficient due to the LEDs being pushed so far past their peak efficiency territory?
@mernokimuvek
@mernokimuvek Жыл бұрын
A lot of fluorescent lamps can have over 80 lm/W, some special ones probably more. LEDs are around 100 lm/W. The efficiency of the low pressure sodium lamps is still unbeatable, with some lab samples being around 300 lm/W.
@GERALD_786
@GERALD_786 4 ай бұрын
@@mernokimuvek the theoritical limit of yellow phosphor led efficiency is 250 lumen per watt, 300 lumen per watt is just crazy
@mernokimuvek
@mernokimuvek 4 ай бұрын
@@GERALD_786 I was talking about low pressure sodium lamps, not LEDs.
@GERALD_786
@GERALD_786 4 ай бұрын
@@mernokimuvek i know, im just saying that lps is far more efficient than the limit of led efficiency
@michaelmiller641
@michaelmiller641 Жыл бұрын
Like the one that went AWOL on me recently! That must have been one of those!
@jhsevs
@jhsevs Жыл бұрын
At least it has a rectifier 😂
@CNCmachiningisfun
@CNCmachiningisfun Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if it suddenly diode!
@debochch
@debochch Жыл бұрын
According to the sub titles, it has a bridge wrecked in fire!
@curtishoffmann6956
@curtishoffmann6956 Жыл бұрын
"Are we not LED? We are DEVO."
@ymirthefrostgiant
@ymirthefrostgiant Жыл бұрын
We are not LED anywhere! Life hangs but by a filament of imagination.
@JendaLinda
@JendaLinda Жыл бұрын
Linear regulators are lame and such lamps have poor efficiency. The trend is that all lamps must be as efficient as possile, so all kinds of lamps other than LEDs are being banned. When there will be nothing to ban anymore, they might start banning lower efficiency LEDs.
@katrinabryce
@katrinabryce Жыл бұрын
That is likely to happen. They have re-alighed the efficiency bands. Under the old bands this would have been an A+ efficiency, under the new bands it is probably about a D.
@JendaLinda
@JendaLinda Жыл бұрын
@@katrinabryce "D" is pretty good rating for LEDs, lesser LEDs are usually rated "F", where "G" is the bottom of the scale.
@andygozzo72
@andygozzo72 Жыл бұрын
@@JendaLinda someone needs to ban those that do the banning😉
@JendaLinda
@JendaLinda Жыл бұрын
@@andygozzo72 True. They have apparently nothing better to do.
@dfgoui
@dfgoui Жыл бұрын
I had a couple of LED gu10s go within a short time of eachother, each with a bang. Took them apart and both had blown capacitors and lots of soot in them from the bang. Not sure on the cause but i bought better bulbs to replace them and all the remaining ones
@loddude5706
@loddude5706 Жыл бұрын
Now have a supermarket own-brand 2w LED candle bulb (£5!) running 24/7 - it replaces an old Thorn 15w Pygmy in a dark corridor - but how long will it 'chooch'? (Dramatic chord : )
@18robsmith
@18robsmith Жыл бұрын
There's nothing quite so much fun as a lamp that goes bang.......
@williamsquires3070
@williamsquires3070 Жыл бұрын
Fixing these is a lot easier than fixing glitchy Pokémon sprites. I guess I’ll have to remove the 1 Megohm resistor - I want mine to fade out. 🙂
@user-gx6jb6wc5g
@user-gx6jb6wc5g Жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that the capacitor will hold a charge for a long time once the resistor is removed.
@6F6G
@6F6G Жыл бұрын
What was the smoothing capacitor temperature rating? Usually they use 105°C rated but if they are trying to save every last fraction of a penny then they could use slightly cheaper 85°C capacitors.
@andygozzo72
@andygozzo72 Жыл бұрын
doesnt always mean they'll last , google 'capacitor plague', and they're miniaturising them too far
@mernokimuvek
@mernokimuvek Жыл бұрын
@@andygozzo72 DiodeGoneWild opened a brand new power supply which has reused scrap capacitors and they even tried to hide the dents with wax and put a new fake heat shrink over it.
@andygozzo72
@andygozzo72 Жыл бұрын
@@mernokimuvek 😲 sacre merde! that said i do have a plug type 12v psu that looks if its been 'repurposed' as it has input and output wires cut off and the new ones soldered to pads on the track side 😲 or maybe the cutoffs were for testing?
@mernokimuvek
@mernokimuvek Жыл бұрын
@@andygozzo72 Dont use cheap noname brand chinese power supplies including phone chargers. Sometimes there is no isolation except the enamel on the magnet wire between primary and secondary of the transformer. You have a few micrometers of enamel separating the output from mains input.
@andygozzo72
@andygozzo72 Жыл бұрын
@@mernokimuvek i know, thing is not everyone can afford the 'top' brand ones, the ones sold 'fairly low price' by UK shops are usually ok, luckily,
@Altezza1999
@Altezza1999 10 ай бұрын
Have you checked out any Airam bulbs yet?
@ABaumstumpf
@ABaumstumpf Жыл бұрын
And i am sticking with Ikea for the foreseeable future. While their furniture is just cheap paper crap and will not last, most other things they sell is surprisingly good quality, specially for the low price. With LEDs i had some Philips and Osram with "7 year warranty" and yeah of course they didn't last. Sadly back then i didn't keep the check of small things like lamps - NEVER again.
@boatman323
@boatman323 Жыл бұрын
It’s the everlasting gobstopper problem: the manufacturer’s business depends on the product not lasting too long.
@chickenwing111
@chickenwing111 Жыл бұрын
Part of the 'green' rating for a product should be associated with its quality and expected lifespan. Cheap junk like this clogs the waste stream.
@KarldorisLambley
@KarldorisLambley Жыл бұрын
I tried to buy a bulb yesterday, an incandescent one. i went to 3 shops. Nary a one anywhere. LED bulbs are okay for light but they are rubbish as a load in a circuit, when something says 60W of light i want it to use 60W. where the blazes can i find incandescents?
@quinbus51
@quinbus51 Жыл бұрын
Clive can you help with looking at higher wattage bulbs? I'm coming across designs that seem to feature multiple smaller current limiting chips, each with their own resistor. One of the 100w bulbs I currently have apart on my bench, for example, has 30+ SMD LED chips and 3 small 3 pin current limiting devices, each with it's own current sensing resistor. How does this all work together?
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