Over Suspension device | Superb Upgrade for your bike Part 2 of 2

Over Suspension device | Superb Upgrade for your bike Part 2 of 2 | Much more than Tuned Mass Damper

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CORRECTION: the device weight is 440 grams not approx 1 Kg which I mentioned in the video . My Bad , silly error, sorry.
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@ChasingTenths 4 жыл бұрын

Here is the link for part 1 , it’s a must watch as then part 2 will make so much sense kzfaq.info/get/bejne/acmeltqhm7HOko0.html thank you, plz do subscribe if you like my work

@joshualevi 3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic video and explanation. Your channel is one of the few that I actually watch everything from end to end. Very in depth, well written, and thorough.

@ChasingTenths 3 жыл бұрын

Oo wow Joshua, thank you so much. That’s made my day on a rainy quiet evening , reading something like this is absolutely wonderful. Thank you for watching the full videos, I really appreciate the support 🙏🏼

@kalheer 4 жыл бұрын

Great part 2 and further analysis.. I’m glad we purchased one and could help showcase it 👍🏻

@ChasingTenths 4 жыл бұрын

Kal Heer thank you very much mate, i appreciate you lending the device so I can showcase it

@johnrobertfrench 3 жыл бұрын

I just got mine! Wow, just WOW!! The improvements are many and one, in particular, surprised me greatly. There is one fantastically curvey road that my sportbike club in my area use and abuse. We hold nothing back and almost every Sunday it turns into a TT race lol. Normally I fill up on gas before hitting it and my BMW S1000RR gives me a range of about 155miles when full. Before the dampener, after pushing hard through this road, my range would fall to about 55miles remaining. This Sunday I got to test out the Oversuspension and at the end of the run, my range was at 90miles remaining. This product calmed my bike down so much I found that I was not having to use trail brake and then push my engine as much to get back to full power after heavy curves and corners allowing me to save a giant amount of fuel. This is just one of the many improvements I found.

@ChasingTenths 3 жыл бұрын

John French wow John , that’s a hell of a feedback . Thank you so much , I really need people like yourself giving some proper feedback on the this device Very well written and a lot of detail there Thank you again I am so glad you can actually feel the difference

@cbr1928 3 жыл бұрын

simple question , did you propperly setup you're bike ? witht the supsension ? before you added this :?

@FirstLast-tx3yj 3 жыл бұрын

Where is the link to buy??

@DylanGSXR 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant mate and yes sometimes some people can't see past what has went into Inventing and making a product , it's a fair price imo .. keep up the great video's .

@ChasingTenths 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you mate, I am a very positive person , I always look to see what it took someone to come up with something and the whole learning journey. I have no direct close links to the company but I just like what they do

@mmotorcycles9497 4 жыл бұрын

It’s cool that technology from moto GP a few years ago is available for the masses. Another great vid.

@ChasingTenths 4 жыл бұрын

M Motorcycles thank you very much mate. I just think the physics behind the product has a lot of relevance in general

@philipm6666 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Abhi, I just received my over suspension for my Aprilia Tuono 1100 factory, and also my 2020 S1000RR. Ordered it after ur first video

@ChasingTenths 4 жыл бұрын

Philip M wow Philip really. Good to know that people are actually believing in the product . Did the discount code come in handy ? Or did you go direct to Italy ?

@philipm6666 4 жыл бұрын

Chasing Tenths I went direct :( didn’t realize the discount until watching this one

@GalactisBBLR 4 жыл бұрын

WOW!!! Now this is some really good information!

@ChasingTenths 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much mate

@jamiedaugherty1 3 жыл бұрын

Lots of good info, but a few mistakes too. One is the example of sitting at the back of the bus - very different than putting a mass damper at the end of the swingarm. Back of the bus would be similar to why Ducati places theirs in the tailsection, another time when he fails to accurately describe the situation. Kind of surprised its use in F1 wasn't discussed. Lots of info out there about that, if you enjoyed this video you should watch those. Mass dampers have been around for a very long time and are thoroughly understood. The author of this video far overstates the benefits for road bikes. You will only see them used in extreme cases where damaging oscillations occur. For example, buildings in southern California will have them but buildings in Indiana will not. In the same was racing motorcycles will have them and road going motorcycles will not.

@ChasingTenths 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback mate , much appreciate it, please watch Part 1 of the video , in there I discuss buildings, trains, F1 Renault 2005-06 car, pylons and quite a lot of things. The bus example is from Transport of London buses, I spoke to them to clear my doubts and they mentioned that the main reasons they started putting engines at the back was to counter the Giddiness please were feeling in the bus, the engine and torsion bars acted as a sort of mass damper which counter acted any undue back movement. I really appreciate the time you took to see the video in detail. I really request you to watch part 1.

@jamiedaugherty1 3 жыл бұрын

@@ChasingTenths I agree about the bus, however that maps to the Ducati arrangement but not the swingarm mounted location you were trying to compare to. Here at @DMrPerformanceSuspension we have been developing a mass damper for a few years. It's tricky to get tuned correctly and reliant on variables such as tire construction, so I am struggling with a mass-produced product.

@that_biker_boy5550 3 жыл бұрын

Just spoke to a ‘racing contact’ at Ducati. He seemed to suggest that this damper shown on the the Motogp Ducati was merely to assist with preserving the Integrity of the ECU and other electronic sensors located in the carbon fibre ‘Lunch Box’ on their motogp bike, as without it their electronics would get shaken to bits. As you are probably all aware, that’s where Ducati located a lot of their electronics. It was mentioned that the bike could be a bit ‘vibey’ and the dampers help to reduce the chatter and shake in the tail section of the motorcycle. This guy isn’t a tech on the Motogp team, but is part of the racing programme for Ducati. I’d love to see more data on this from an actual racing team though for sure! 👍

@ssrsuspension8247 3 жыл бұрын

Hats off to a well produced video, I wish I had the time to produce such quality with the graphics etc. I work in BSB as a Crew Chief and run my own suspension company (i've worked for Ohlins), I have seen said data from our Superbikes as we have tried this device but bear in mind it was given to us by the company who made this device. It did not benefit in any way, the data from the bike shows this clearly it made no difference to the issue it was supposed to combat! You have to remember every mechanical device will give the rider a placebo effect when you tell them a device will make something better! My friends in WSB who work for some major teams as Crew Chiefs have also tried this device, it ended up in the spare parts bin. Remember with clever marketing you can sell anything...I was contacted by Nicola about selling his device 2 years ago along with just about every known suspension company in the UK-none of us chose to sell this device. I asked for real data and none was forthcoming, I would not recommend any product without intricate knowledge of the product design/application and its proven worth but I am an engineer. In my opinion you really need to get the basics right first, springs/damping and geometry as expensive bling does not solve an ill handling bike ever and if you have a bike that has no handling issues, you should really NOT have to spend £400.00 on a device to make a good bike better.

@ssrsuspension8247 3 жыл бұрын

Also ref the Ducati, that device that was first seen in the GP is not quite the same. I have read the technical paper and even Moto GP Engineers stated that they could not proove the worth of a mass damper system due to the complexities of tuning frequencies found within the chassis of a Moto GP Bike. But as you know Moto GP is experimental, alot of Tech is as the cutting edge of the Motorcycle Industry.

@DynamixsEd 3 жыл бұрын

@@ssrsuspension8247 This raises a few questions. What frequencies were you specifically aiming to attenuate? How did you tune the device to the specific requirements? And what damping ratio were you aiming for? I assume you didn't just fit it and run it?

@ssrsuspension8247 3 жыл бұрын

@@DynamixsEd thats something you'd have to ask the Crew Chief/Data engineer on the affected bike and probably info they would not share - yes the team tried the device thru its range of settings and yes on the data you could see that the device beared no effect to resolution. (Do feel free to email me to discuss further). During a race weekend setup time is minimal, official testing is also minimal, be great to have a week in spain testing countless setups but then we return to the UK and the setup has to evolve to our topography/climatic conditions. Currently as we speak a friend of mine is in Spain testing this device with a WSB team, he has said that as a mechanical device yes it works mechanically but it is not a bolt on device that is plug and play, they are trying variances in frequencies, currently testing on 800hz. Theoretically if such a device increases grip (this is a simple SAG mass damper) - it would increases acceleration out of corners and reduce yaw velocity at corner entry. There would be Zero benefit if the device was NOT tuned and/or kinematic/dynamic setup of the bike not changed. This would certainly not be a plug and play device and remember this device was aimed initially at race teams not a track day rider, road rider which is where it appears to be marketed now. How many road riders or trackday riders would test and adjust correctly as thats alot of track time. you have to start at the basics with correct springs/damping rates and tyre pressures for the carcass before all else. You may or may not be surprised how many people would rather throw a fancy exhaust on vs having their suspension optimised for their weight/pace/discipline and how many people do not look after their tyres properly. The Race Team market is a very limited market, business run at the end of the day to make profit, if it was as good as all that every team would be after one would they not? The settings of the device have to be changed and tuned depending upon your carcass design, your shock setting would also require fine tuning. The info for tuning the device on the site confuses many, but it is a simple sag mass damper so you just adjust the preload on the device accordingally which requires a bit more than guess work to get an effective setting. Its not to say the device can't work, its to say it is not the simple bolt on device that it is plugged as.

@stevemurtz3546 3 жыл бұрын

@@ssrsuspension8247 thank you for this detailed answer from someone who is in the know. I am no boffin by any means but when it comes to motorcycle suspension I am of the view that nothing can ever be plug and play. There is simply no way a device can work for every weight of rider on every type of bike. One rider uses Pirelli the other uses Bridgestone. It's just impossible. Then add the fact they want you to tune it on feel without data?? How is that even possible if most riders can't even feel if their normal suspension is working? Slapped a ton of go faster bits on my bike but the biggest time jumps came from proper tyres being used in the proper manner and paid a suspension technician to set the bike up for my weight and pace.

@je19oct 4 жыл бұрын

Wow...you have a deep knowledge of 🏍.

@ChasingTenths 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you mate, very much appreciated

@user-fr6ry7ic5q 3 жыл бұрын

Brilliant thank you for your research and efforts.

@ChasingTenths 3 жыл бұрын

No problem mate. Thank you for your kind comment I really appreciate it Do watch part 1 too :)

@superfastmonkeysim5200 2 жыл бұрын

Your my new go to. Subbed. Cheers 🥳

@ChasingTenths 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you mate , really appreciated, apologies for the late comment, I was in the states, now back in UK. Hope to upload some more decent content for you to watch

@SarwarUddinOnYT 4 жыл бұрын

This video is killing it

@ChasingTenths 4 жыл бұрын

The Financial Freedom Network thank you very much

@sean0387 2 жыл бұрын

Great Video

@ChasingTenths 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you mate Much appreciated

@greyanaroth 3 жыл бұрын

Abhi this is a fantastic video. Top research. Really appreciate it. This device would be fantastic for dodgy tarmac situations for better traction.

@ChasingTenths 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate, I appreciate your understanding of the subject Wonderful comment

@greyanaroth 3 жыл бұрын

@@ChasingTenths no matter how good your rebound setup is for spirited riding, we often get uneven tarmac that the rear wheel just refuses to stick to. The kerb video was like whaaaaaaaaat

@user-oz5ui5qe3v 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Very nice 👌

@ChasingTenths 4 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate it מתנאל אזולאי thank you ,

@mzvarik 2 жыл бұрын

very informative 👍👍

@ChasingTenths 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Martin. Much appreciated

@stevebritt9456 4 жыл бұрын

Ha ha I thought u was gonna say the dogs Bollox acted as a mass damper ha ha 😂

@ChasingTenths 4 жыл бұрын

steve britt hahahahaha , o my God, that’s actually a fantastic point lol 😂... never even thought of that . You might have a point lol. It’s time to make part 3 then totally on dogs bollocks theory lol ... love the comment mate and thank you for watching the full video . Only when you watch the full video . You truly understand this particular concept

@hoslyr86bass 4 жыл бұрын

Haha so i can't get one for my dogs 😆😂 great video funny too mate. Its on my to buy list one day should help lots on rough corners on the street one would imagine can be scary hitting a corner at lean and the roads rugged from trucks and tractors haha

@ChasingTenths 4 жыл бұрын

hoslyr86bass hahaha you are too funny, Feel free to buy whenever you want and yeah curing instability is what this thing is for so yeah same as here in the uk, you can get all sorts on country roads 🤷‍♂️

@krisjohnston3026 4 жыл бұрын

On the other hand i am all for any tech that can prevent a high side, so it will be interesting to see the feed back once the product starts being used by track riders.

@ChasingTenths 4 жыл бұрын

Kris Johnston I agree, I have spoken to 2 guys in Italy and 2 in Portugal who have used this already and they are quick guys and can feel the difference . Let’s see what the others say when it gets popular. You are right . It’s too new to judge yet

@krisjohnston3026 4 жыл бұрын

@@ChasingTenths i have had a look through the SAG moto 2 Facebook pictures and it looks like they used this tuned mass damper all last year which is a promising sign for the product to have value.

@anthonyenglish5709 3 жыл бұрын

Very informative

@ChasingTenths 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Anthony :)

@ManxTT 4 жыл бұрын

Only just come across your videos. Love what you're doing bro, interesting and very informative. Keep up the good work. ps. If you every get across to the Isle of Man let me know and I'll show you round👍🏾🇮🇲🏍🇮🇲

@ChasingTenths 4 жыл бұрын

Nick , sorry to reply late mate , you know what , I am gonna take up that offer , lol. I have always been fascinated by that amazing Island. It's beautiful in so many ways and not just cause of motorbiking. Really would love to visit it next year after COVID calms down. Do stay in touch please, you can Like the Chasing Tenths Facebook page and message me whenever. Would love to see some of your footage too

@ManxTT 4 жыл бұрын

@@ChasingTenths Yes no problem at all, its a beautiful island with lots to see so more than happy to show you round. I'll check out your fb page and drop you a message.

@interlochen318 Жыл бұрын

I can tell you this it rides rougher, I feel every bump the rear tire sticks better and dosen't float over the bumps and my traction control doesn't go wanky through those rough corners on low lake road like it used to, before it would be flashing like crazy, now it doesn't. I have highsided before , so this device was recommended and installed, at the shop i have all my work completed, on my v4 Tuono.

@ChasingTenths Жыл бұрын

That’s very interesting, thanks for the after install update and comment.. I am not linked to the company in any form but I like to hear opinions out there

@sonotover 4 жыл бұрын

Dorna needs to hire you as a pit commentator.

@ChasingTenths 4 жыл бұрын

TimeAttack hahahahaha, Ducati might file a case against me lol 😆, I talk too much lol

@jaykay1168 4 жыл бұрын

The device seems good. It would be nice if you were able to get practical live examples videoed of the same bike on the same track with and without the damper. The bike clips you used are not the same bike on the same place. Maybe after we are allowed out again then?

@ChasingTenths 4 жыл бұрын

Jay Kay I totally agree with you mate, I really wish this lockdown wasn’t it otherwise I had 2 tracks booked one after the other and I can properly test it myself or through a faster guy than me . But a great point that

@ursularathee5430 4 жыл бұрын

Part 2 👍👍

@ChasingTenths 4 жыл бұрын

Ursula Rathee thank you , yes you got this perfectly right . It’s certainly part 2 😋

@toddmurray589 2 жыл бұрын

Hello - the principle of using a tuned mass damper to "damp" out chatter (seismic osculation of the unsprung mass) is sound. But, the mass damper needs to be tuned to the same natural frequency as the device you wish to damp. Does this product offer different different bouncy masses and spring rates to tune? I'm very wary of a one-size-fits-all solution. For example, a Ducati 848, using stock wheels on a single sided swing arm (heavy) with a Pirelli tire (soft spring) and softer shock spring will have a much lower natural frequency than a ZXYFZRRR with a lighter dual sided swingarm, aftermarket wheels, (light) and Dunlop tires (stiff).

@ChasingTenths 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, absolutely you make a lot of sense Todd, and this it has various settings , it’s not one size fits all Have a look at a video on Cali moto Tv KZfaq channel , they did a video recently with well known suspension guru Dave moss , especially on this device , that would explain everything in practical terms

@Crimson_Strider Жыл бұрын

I've been waiting for them to make one for 2011-2015 zx10r and monster 1200s. C'mon over suspension.

@ChasingTenths Жыл бұрын

Gutted for you , I hope they make them soon for you :)

@bronch6370 3 жыл бұрын

Do you have a link to they study that showed a 95% reduction in high sides? I'm curious how they determined that.

@ChasingTenths 3 жыл бұрын

Hi mate , the figure is 90 percent , however as mentioned in the video unfortunately it’s the race team’s testing data from the Barni Racing team and because they are currently using that device in world super bikes with Marco Melandri (2020-21), under no circumstances they are prepared to release that information, I have asked the factory 3 times now and the response is no. The data comes from Michele Pirro and Michael Rinaldi testing the bike relentlessly in 2018 to 2019 with the device on. However , I will be doing a 3rd video on this device with hopefully if I gain something from that race team’s data until then we’ll just have to take their word for it .

@BizAutomation 4 жыл бұрын

If you want feedback, here's why I havn't purchased one. Just one man's opinion. The reason is that while you show great theory, I don't see it in a demo of some kind, and not enough testimonials from real riders not being paid by the company. But as the say goes, if theory matched the real world result, we'd all be communists (ok ok some of us are too stupid to learn from history, but that's another thread all together). What the OEM of this product should do, is take a GoPro and show the rear tire on a road with lots of undulations, particularly on the corner. Show the bike from a macro and micro view. THEN do the same with your oversuspension. PROVE how the tire stays planted with the device and how the chatter causes slip without it. You do that ? And you'll prove your case and people will buy. At this point, it's too new, and it's not cheap enough to be an impulse buy.

@ChasingTenths 4 жыл бұрын

BizAutomation Automating Small Business I understand exactly what you mean mate. A few people have bought this and I have told everyone to give me honest feedback and I should have one soon too . So let’s hope UK and Euro tracks open soon and general lockdown opens and then I will test it alongside actually feedback from others with visuals

@sashababich827 3 жыл бұрын

Do you have some more info? Did you test for yourself? I have serious doubts about this product because placing a damper in a salad box or in the swingarm is not the same as adding at the end of the swingarm ...

@ChasingTenths 3 жыл бұрын

Swingarm is actually an excellent place to put this , That’s where they put it on the British Superbike Ducati and World Superbike Ducati , MOTOGP are prototype bikes, the R and D for them is totally ok different level, and like I mention in the video , they can put the damper where ever their rider tells them to put or sensors . In Moto2 they put it on the swingarm, and front axle. Due to lockdown all my euro Trackdays are cancelled : Almeria 3 days , Jerez 3 days , Portimao 4 days and I had tests planned with another Aprilia , same bike, same rider weight , we both even do same laptimes but unfortunately coronavirus spoiled everything. I will test it in U.K. on the one day Trackday not I think in one day I don’t think a thorough test can be done but I will still try . Other people have tried this in Italy, Portugal and Spain and everyone’s feedback has been positive. But I will make a third video on it , on the track with hopefully some sensors in the swingarm and I will post it. The science behind the product is proven otherwise major race teams wouldn’t use it , plus they never release the data on it which is frustrating, as it’s race data

@doctorstephen 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Abhi, great 2 videos on this. I went on to the RRSP website but it couldn't recognize discount code OVER15.

@ChasingTenths 4 жыл бұрын

Stephen Tsao I am so sorry for the late reply. Sometimes I don’t get notified , are you still struggling with the code and link . Thank you for the appreciation by the way

@greyanaroth 3 жыл бұрын

Wow. Holy shit. Can we beg them to make something for the triumph 675r/765rs swingarms??

@ChasingTenths 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Anupam , so sorry for the late reply , some comments slip through the radar , I think they are working on most of the bikes now. feel free to contact them or Road Race Performance Shoropshire in Uk who deal with these products. Link in description

@ktkace 4 жыл бұрын

You should take a look at Yamaha's performance damper , esp on youtube , imho it does something like what you said!

@ChasingTenths 4 жыл бұрын

Aahhhh really!! I haven’t actually looked at that , I searched a lot on dampers online and only saw the Moto2 dampers and Ducati. I’ll look again, thanks for the tip and appreciate you watching the video mate

@ktkace 4 жыл бұрын

Imho the over suspension system is much more superior in terms of simplicity . Been using a diy version , sick rear wheel feel in the wet when on the throttle on painted surfaces and drain covers. Feels like a controlled slide! And I'm running pressures higher by nearly 3 psi !

@ktkace 4 жыл бұрын

The J dampers are the next step up in.the F1 suspension systems.

@BizAutomation4U 4 жыл бұрын

Anti-Slide control already does much to prevent high sides. Why are you suggesting that there is a benefit to the late model Aprilias, they all have anti-slide and cornoring ABS. What am I missing ? Also, what about improvements to handling such as affects to turn in, enabling the bike to feel more planted and plush, etc.. ?

@MrilModena 4 жыл бұрын

It makes work Every Tc Better....when a Tc works it causes many vibrations on the rear...this device reduce or nullify this vibration and keep the tyre in contact with tarmac....it also reduce sliding and tyre temperature and consumption ...

@ChasingTenths 4 жыл бұрын

Hi mate , seems like Andrea explained it quite well. Electronic aids have actually got nothing to do with this device but on the contrary when this device nullifies the oscillations it prevents electronic aids to come on and reduce the power. TC works through torque reduction . And this device makes sure that you have a constant contact patch so electronic aids don’t even intervene and reduce power or unpredictability. When ABS comes on it causes huge vibrations so this counters that. Improved handling is purely by stabilisation of rear and front, and better contact patch so you get better grip and dynamic ride-ability. The bike goes through many changes, vibrations, oscillating movements... and some vibrations are good and they get countered by tyre, chassis , swingarm and a good rear shock but many vibrations get missed out which can trigger instability. 1 vibration is measured in 1 hertz and any undue hertz which cause issues get countered by this device . That’s why it’s used in WSBK, MOTO3 , MOTO2 and MOTOGP plus F1 in 2005-06 (Renault F1, it was too effective on aero so it was Banned by the FIA)

@cbr1928 3 жыл бұрын

still a bit doubting, yes i did evertyhing dailed everything in , suspension , engine braking tyres, slipperclutch etc etc a good test would be on track before and after with data with a fast rider love the tech stuff

@ChasingTenths 3 жыл бұрын

I totally agree mate, I am personally waiting to do a 4 day test at either the Portimao or Almeria circuit to test this out myself . At the moment I have only done one day Trackdays in the U.K. and I deliberately not tested it yet plus I upgraded my suspension to ohlins FGR front and TTX GP rear , so the bike has totally changed in feel so that’s why I can’t wait to put the over suspension device to a full test on a euro 4 day event , feedback from riders from Italy , Spain and Portugal and two from New Zealand and some Americans has been excellent... the science behind this device makes sense and it’s proven and now it’s used in world superbikes and British superbikes ... so let’s see , personal opinions are definitely subjective .... thanks for watching mate I really appreciate it

@cbr1928 3 жыл бұрын

@@ChasingTenths i learned alot during the years, i rode a stock bike for a season. i upgraded every year i was doing trackdays improved adapted my posture on the bike clipons changed learned the do elbow down's made exel sheets' etc etc now days if you see the current leven of a trackday .. .. they have all the goodies but never get it dailed in . (my bike weighs 168 in track setup wiht 5 liter of gass) an fully tanked it weigh 178 the bike was 187 kilo orginail the 10 kilo difference is huge . myself on the other is a bit different hehe setting up a base for the bike is alot work , i my weight is 110 kilo with my race gear on so i setup the suspension for that . not my actuly weight without the race gear we could write back an fourh hehehe i subbed the chanel ;) good luck with youre finding's on this topic :D

@ChasingTenths 3 жыл бұрын

@@cbr1928 thanks very much for subscribing mate I really appreciate that And I agree with everything you said there , I reckon sometimes you really got to start with a blank sheet of paper and move their way upwards , just the way you have done and weight shredding is best thing one can do, no one needs 210 bhp, but everyone needs manageable power and smoother power curve, unspring lighter mass.... keep in touch mate, on chasing tenths Facebook page .. we can have some great conversations, very like minded we are .

@cbr1928 3 жыл бұрын

@@ChasingTenths 220 hp hehe nah , on a 600 would a death wish hehehe , fb i dont use any more , mostly twitter. i read alot on how race teams build up a bike stock, superstock on the 600'ths and the 1000's even if youre at a low level you learn so muche from it ,. even the preperation to a trackday i bought a small camera , but a cleaned the house.. i cant find it ... (oopss..) to share some stuff with clips and added text in the description as you can see and find in other clips i have . what is also founded on YT is an overkill on " race experts'' iam very selective on channels. they dont even know how to set the brembo rcs 19x20 to 19x18 ratio ;) ore remove the freeplay from the throttle going to check the other vids out ;)

@lcr7781 4 жыл бұрын

How would it work on a twin shocks?

@ChasingTenths 4 жыл бұрын

LCR77 hi mate, same principle with the twin shock , it gets installed to the lowest part of the bike , mainly swingarm and it goes the same job. It doesn’t mount to the shock and you don’t need two of these for twin shocks . One does the job big time

@naturalsynth3tics439 9 ай бұрын

Nice video. Do they make one for Ducati Hypermotard? Thanks

@naturalsynth3tics439 9 ай бұрын

Let me rephrase the question ... Does it fit on the Hypermotard? :)

@ChasingTenths 9 ай бұрын

@@naturalsynth3tics439 thank you for appreciating … I’ll be honest I am not aware, they are big on Ducati , all their r and d work was done on a Ducati V4 and V4R… there’s a link in my description of the video for road race performance, give them a shout, they keep the U.K. stock and they will tell you if they have one for the hypermotard.. good shout though

@svig137 2 жыл бұрын

Do you have this on your RSV4? If so, what is your personal opinion of it?

@ChasingTenths 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, this year I did 9 Trackdays on it in the fast group . I found the differences subtle but they were certainly noticeable at certain points for example when my rear grip was gone & home out of corners , the slide was beautiful & progressive. No nasty surprises , the rear end feels much more stable , even on braking hard the rear was much stable , mid corner there is stability too but it’s all very subtle and hence I deliberately didn’t have this on my bike last year as I totally upgraded my suspension but this year I feel definitely there is a sublime difference

@josephdefelix 2 жыл бұрын

Habebe, do you know what's going on? I have already placed an order on that website on July2nd & have heard nothing from them? No tracking number, no email?

@ChasingTenths 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Joseph. You mean you placed the order on Road Race Performance website or directly with supreme technology?

@josephdefelix 2 жыл бұрын

@@ChasingTenths No worries. I'm going to delete these messages as I don't want to reflect nativity. I appreciate your support. They are waiting to hear from the manufacturer hopefully by next week.

@ChasingTenths 2 жыл бұрын

@@josephdefelixno problem Joseph, it’s ok, you can keep these comments on here my friend , I am a very transparent person. Don’t worry , cheers

@philipm6666 4 жыл бұрын

I am having troubles understanding how to adjust the oversuspension. I mean how to tune it +- , when should you increase and decrease? Looking for some help after purchasing this after seeing ur video

@ChasingTenths 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Phillip , I am ever so sorry for the late reply, I don’t get notifications for all the comments. You have to go by the feel on the over suspension, once you install it, you can go up, medium or down depending on how you feel on the track or road . I am installing mine next month and I’ll be doing some work on it . I’ll keep you posted. Let me know if you need further help and I’ll speak to the factory in Italy for you ASAP

@philipm6666 4 жыл бұрын

Chasing Tenths thanks bud test it out first :)

@khairulanwar8218 3 жыл бұрын

@@ChasingTenths hi..did you got yours? Did you found the best setting on the over suspension? Please help by giving more info. Thanks.

@ChasingTenths 3 жыл бұрын

@@khairulanwar8218 hi mate, yes, I am using it this year . It’s great , gives you more confidence coming out of bends very aggressively . Perfect settings depends on the individual, but I am working on a video on that

@khairulanwar8218 3 жыл бұрын

@@ChasingTenths Great to hear that. But at least, from your experience can give the respond received from this device if we put more on MINUS or we put more on PLUS. What's the different feeling bring out from this device. Hope you can share the experiences. Thank you in advance.

@user-fr6ry7ic5q 3 жыл бұрын

Do you have any information towards them making on for the 2017+ GSXR1000R

@ChasingTenths 3 жыл бұрын

I have just asked the question to the product designer for u direct in Italy , as soon as he replies I will come back to you :)

@user-fr6ry7ic5q 3 жыл бұрын

@@ChasingTenths i appreciate that thank you and if not one of the existing may be a close match i can't imagine there being too much of a difference between yamaha kawasaki or Honda

@ChasingTenths 3 жыл бұрын

@@user-fr6ry7ic5q yes mate Suzuki 2017 is there , see the description, contact road race performance, I just contacted the owner in Italy , he said they make them so Road Race Performance who is the U.K. supplier must sell them ... if you get any issues let me know

@RoryMacdonald-pfff Жыл бұрын

So did this “up to 90%” data ever get released?

@ChasingTenths Жыл бұрын

All I can say is Ducati are absolutely adamant they don't want this data to be released , they won't even allow Barni racing team to release it. That can only mean its good data , this is coming from a very high profile source. all I can say is , this year I did endurance racing and I nearly had 6 high sides in my long stints but I was ok, I am not saying it was this device who saved me , could be a million reasons , but its definitely there as a safeguard. I am gutted that Ducati have been so tough with this data , I am still keeping my fingers crossed and I will definitely make a follow up video , its been long time in waiting , thanks for a very valid question and I am so sorry for the late reply , I try to answer all comments asap

@josephdefelix 2 жыл бұрын

I am at check out now(online) & mentioned 15% discount code, is invalid.

@ChasingTenths 2 жыл бұрын

Have you tried the code OVER15 If that doesn’t work then contact them directly I know recently they cancelled the code because it was Father’s Day sale going on and people were trying to use the codes on top of the 10 percent . Send that company an email and tell them you have seen the video And mention my video and he will give you a discount

@josephdefelix 2 жыл бұрын

Tried that one, also no luck :/ Thanks I appreciate the help. Have a great race season, be safe! here’s to a good weekend and an awesome 4th, cheers

@ChasingTenths 2 жыл бұрын

@@josephdefelix ooh mate, I am sorry it didn’t work , I will message the guy tomorrow to see what’s happened to the code but honestly if you really wish to buy him Contact him through their Facebook page He will give you some money off 100 percent Thank you for the best wishes and kind words Means a lot to me mate Joe

@josephdefelix 2 жыл бұрын

@@ChasingTenths Habebe, can I directly purchase this device from you? I have already placed an order on that website on July2nd & have heard nothing from them? No tracking number, & they have never responded to the multiple emails I've sent.

@chrisandtori9083 3 жыл бұрын

Hey buddy I put in your code on the website and it does not work for some reason for the damper

@ChasingTenths 3 жыл бұрын

Ooo Chris I am so so sorry for the late reply I didn’t get notifications Is everything ok now ? Any issues ?

@chrisandtori9083 3 жыл бұрын

@@ChasingTenths I will try the code again now and see what happens thanks

@chrisandtori9083 3 жыл бұрын

I just tried it again capital like it says OVER15 And lowercase nothing works the code does not work...

@beekeeper937 2 жыл бұрын

discount code doesn't work anymore :(

@ChasingTenths 2 жыл бұрын

It might have expired now , try CHASE10 or CHASE15

@that_biker_boy5550 3 жыл бұрын

One thing that leaves me questioning the effectiveness of this product is... If it’s such a ‘big thing’ in racing suspension, Why aren’t Ohlins already manufacturing them as bolt on kits for road & race applications?? Because I’ll tell you this for nothing.. Having spent a LOT of time with the Ohlins lot, there isn’t much if anything they don’t know when it comes to motorcycle suspension!

@ChasingTenths 3 жыл бұрын

I agree with you mate and so sorry for the late reply ... these dampers are on some touring road bikes but in electronic form like the BMW GS and the New Honda too, I already had a conversation with ketch and ohlins about this, the reason they don’t make this is purely for Cost cutting , it just costs bike manufacturers too much and it’s hard to just to justify to the accountants the reasoning behind such innovation and gains

@adrenalinejunkie301 Жыл бұрын

Looking at purchasing for my 2016 zx10r. I pretty much only street ride. Is it worth it for just street use? It’s $500

@ChasingTenths Жыл бұрын

Personally i would say not worth it for street unless you ride like your underpants are on fire every single turn lol … it’s just my personal opinion that I think it’s more suited for tracks :)

@adrenalinejunkie301 Жыл бұрын

@@ChasingTenths I appreciate it brother thank you!

@ChasingTenths Жыл бұрын

@@adrenalinejunkie301 no Problem at all

@adrenalinejunkie301 Жыл бұрын

@@ChasingTenths hey btw bud I picked up my 10r last night! I love the -1 front +1 rear. Definitely can just pass someone in 6th gear now!

@ChasingTenths Жыл бұрын

@@adrenalinejunkie301 brilliant stuff Just changing 1 tooth back or front can make a noticible difference

@azhaguabinesh8655 Жыл бұрын

I wanted to connect with you regarding this device how can i contact you..?

@ChasingTenths Жыл бұрын

Facebook page Chasing Tenths . You can msg me there

@jackj8510 3 жыл бұрын

Where can I get one for my fireblade ?

@ChasingTenths 3 жыл бұрын

Jack Jauncey www.roadraceperformanceshropshire.com/products/oversuspension-for-the-aprilia-rsv4-and-tuono-v4-all Here is the link mate , it’s in the description of the video with with a code OVER15 you get 15 percent off

@jackj8510 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you bud

@ChasingTenths 3 жыл бұрын

Jack Jauncey no worries mate, let me if you have any issues

@krisjohnston3026 4 жыл бұрын

Great explanation of the principle behind the mass damper, but have you actually tried and tested this product before you give the sales pitch. I am sceptical of how useful this is to the average rider, I have no doubt before race teams are using it that it helps but they have a team of date analysists to set up to perfection. I would say if it can prevent a high side if it is set up correctly then it’s probably more likely to cause a high side if it is set up wrong, plus have you read the instructions on the web site fairly vague to say the best. In your next video you should try the product to see if it is worth club racers and track day rider investing in this product before you plug it too hard and it ends up being just a lump of metal for £300.

@ChasingTenths 4 жыл бұрын

Kris Johnston no mate, it won’t cause a high side if installed incorrectly. It will just not work properly. I haven’t personally tried it as all my trackdays have been refunded due to the lockdown . But 4 people I know who are quick riders and have tried this and it’s worked for them . Rest we will learn along as this thing gets common . Installing this device isn’t quantum physics, you just have to adjust it properly and calibrate it, plus I have spoken to the company . They are always there to give a helping hand over the phone if someone struggles. 7 other guys I know who have bought it, everyone is just waiting for tracks to start again

@Weracemachines Жыл бұрын

also who owns the company and who gave the secret (lol) data to the italian acu and who in the italian acu got this ruling approved, have any of these people any link to the company selling these? Either yes or the Italian acu are scientifically illiterate. Examples look ridiculous, a weight oscillating and then its counteracted by the same size weight, then you have a miniture baby weight mass damper attached to a 190kgs bike osciliating with force, what a snake oil sham this is, but hey fools and their money..........

@steverielly Жыл бұрын

Are you still running this on your bike? Has it proven itself to be a worth-while investment?

@ChasingTenths Жыл бұрын

I am running it for 2.5 years now and all I can say is I don’t feel it physically but my tire wear is unreal now and it has definitely saved me from a few maybe high sides during my endurance races when the rear tire was gone but I definitely need to do another detailed video on it It’s definitely on the cards but I want to do it properly , hopefully with some data from Barni Racing team which is a very hard thing to get .. but yes, it’s been good , but like I said , it’s not magic , you don’t feel it It’s just doing it’s thing in the background

@steverielly Жыл бұрын

@@ChasingTenths Very interesting. I'm rebuilding my 1198SP as a track only bike, going for a very light flywheel to maximise engine braking, and looking at this to help keep that rear planted even more...the theory is there, so good to see there are people finding it is working for them.

@ChasingTenths Жыл бұрын

@@steverielly thats a good point, rear planted, thats what it basically does with small tiny changes, most Moto 2 and motoGP teams use it to get rid of those tiny oscillations which can cause bigger stresses and issues for the rider. it's definitely a brilliant invention, I loved the science behind it , when I did the two videos , I only wanted to decipher it or explain it but since then its been used in British and World super bikes and got banned after 3 races lol with other teams complaining, they wouldn't complain if they knew it wasn't any good

@BillMaryon 4 жыл бұрын

A rather disingenuous comparison of the Honda Torque control system with the traction control systems of the 2010 S1000rr and 2011 Aprillia APRC considering neither of those utilised an IMU for traction control. A fairer comparison would be the 2016 S1000rr, or 2015 R1.

@ChasingTenths 4 жыл бұрын

Yes I totally understand what you mean Bill and I know what you are trying to explain. But I was only trying to explain the terminology more than the actual technology behind the Honda Torque Control. I am definitely aware that recent traction control is definitely much much better than ones from a decade ago. But I appreciate your understanding. Thanks for watching the video :)

@CheapskateMotorsports 4 жыл бұрын

300 euros isn't too bad for a safety device, don't most airbag vests cost about that much?

@ChasingTenths 4 жыл бұрын

Mustachio's Motovlogs yes true, I think the concept a mainly around safety but I am more of a performance guy lol so I keep talking about performance. Yes I can there is one Xeon or something company selling air vests for a decent price

@joshuasylvester6910 Жыл бұрын

Where in India are u from I know u living in uk

@ChasingTenths Жыл бұрын

I’ve been in U.K. now for 21 years , I am from north india , a lovely city outside the capital New Delhi called Karnal

@joshuasylvester6910 Жыл бұрын

@@ChasingTenths yeah I was wondering you might be a haryanvi desi londa .. I think I wasn't wrong .. I like your indobrit accent tho ..I am from Calcutta, tho born and brought up 24 year old year moto geek like to learn lot about riding universe and love your info ❤️🙏👍 keep it up ..

@joshuasylvester6910 Жыл бұрын

By the way missed out your name -- ??

@ChasingTenths Жыл бұрын

@@joshuasylvester6910 thanks mate, much appreciated :) Abhi Khullar is the name :) Cheers for the nice words and following the channel … stay safe on the roads , Calcutta is a busy place but full of character

@user-nh8tc9po2l 4 жыл бұрын

did you try it? did you ever touch this part?? or do you only talking theoretical about??? 😂😂😂😂

@ChasingTenths 4 жыл бұрын

I’ve got the part mate, the part is brand new and definitely not tried it yet due to lock down but I am flying to Mugello race track next month so it gives me 4 day’s to test it. I recently did Silverstone circuit and Donington part circuit and I did not install this part yet because I have recently changed my front and rear suspension to race spec ohlins so there was no point testing this device on brand new suspension. Once I know how my suspension is behaving on the track and it’s characteristics then I will install the over suspension device .