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Owen Bosma's late 1870's Shingle Mill

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Owen Bosma's late 1870's Shingle Mill

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@JamesJones-cx5pk
@JamesJones-cx5pk 2 жыл бұрын
We had a tornado here in Mississippi back in March 2022. The hardwoods weren't leafed out yet so 80% of them survived. Every 100 yr. Old Cedar tree got topped off or cut in half for miles. I am now building a cabin, a barn and a shed out of cedars. Thanks for the shingle tip. Problem solved!
@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki
@Dwightstjohn-fo8ki 2 жыл бұрын
Those must have been white or red Eastern cedar. Cedar, in the proper growing ground with lots of water, can actually REPAIR itself from the inside. I've seen old growth hit by lightiniing on the wet west coast and the tree would literally fill in (over decades) and sent another top up into the sky. Most other trees can't do that and survive.
@thepain321
@thepain321 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, we are neighbors then. But only pecan trees around me. I use the fallen wood for the smoker. Making big posts for a hammock. Bird houses with the kids too.
@cennsa140driver
@cennsa140driver 2 жыл бұрын
If you have priced a box of cedar shingles now, that machine is about as valuable as a money printing press. You won't go to Federal prison for running it either!
@NoSoup4U2
@NoSoup4U2 2 жыл бұрын
I worked on a newer type of shingle mill out on the island in BC in the mid 1980's. Three of us could cut a whole skid of cedar shingles in about 6hrs. We'd have a 1 ton truck loaded and out for delivery to Washington State, every Friday. Earned a pretty good living at it too! My buddy's Dad had over 100 acres of virgin BC cedar. Trees were +200ft tall. It took a D10 dozer to haul out one tree, and it took us most the summer to cut up that one tree, into cedar shingles, shims & shakes. Getting old & reminiscing here, but I do miss it out there. Parksville Qualicum Beach! Beautiful area out there!
@rawbacon
@rawbacon Жыл бұрын
How big is a skid of shingles?
@NoSoup4U2
@NoSoup4U2 Жыл бұрын
@@rawbacon I don't quite remember how many square feet a bundle could cover, but our skids were 4x4 and the bundles on it were 4ft high. Each skid could hold 12 bundles, so it was 4 cubic feet and we could load 16 skids onto the 1 ton.
@joewoodchuck3824
@joewoodchuck3824 2 жыл бұрын
I drove past a flatbed truck load of freshly cut cedar shingles in Maine one time and the odor was incredibly nice.
@ToxicMrSmith
@ToxicMrSmith 2 жыл бұрын
odour /ˈəʊdə/ noun 1. a distinctive smell, especially an unpleasant one.
@joewoodchuck3824
@joewoodchuck3824 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToxicMrSmith Not unpleasant to me.
@zenrook1
@zenrook1 2 жыл бұрын
@@ToxicMrSmith In American English, odor is the preferred spelling of the noun referring to a property detected by the sense of smell. In all other main varieties of English, odour is the preferred spelling.
@deanerhar
@deanerhar 2 жыл бұрын
I love the smell of cedar as well. I line the closet with cedar to scent it on my clothes. Way better than artificial detergent or fabric softener scents. Also, freshly cut Douglas Fir in the morning.. absolutely divine. 🤤 For many thousands of years freshly cut wood was a predominant scent in many communities since we were hunter gatherers all the way up to the industrial revolution. From tools to houses and everything in between. These are fine scents of nature we have lost to modernization and everything being layered with drywall, chemicals, paint, and plastics. 😒 I sometimes wonder if the reason why common sense seems to be disappearing is because common scents are fading as well. 🤔🤷😂
@joewoodchuck3824
@joewoodchuck3824 2 жыл бұрын
@@deanerhar We had a cedar lined closet for olfactory reasons and for moth protection as well. Bare cedar will emit more odor again after fading by sanding it to expose new fibers. The move away from natural products takes away an element of richness. There's many people who have never been in the woods during and especially after rain to take in the fresh scents. There's nothing like a real Christmas tree either.
@unguidedone
@unguidedone 2 жыл бұрын
the coolest thing about state fairs is the food, and the engines displays. you can smell the oil burners everywhere in the park and its just magical at night.
@TheRestedOne
@TheRestedOne 2 жыл бұрын
I had to look this up. A full twist on the engine belt runs the machinery in reverse. A half-twist on the engine belt makes a mobius loop, allowing for even wear when the engine runs.
@Chris119.
@Chris119. 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, and they're also using crowned pulleys. Keeps the belt on track without the need of any guides even if it's not a very tight tension.
@yvespetit
@yvespetit 2 жыл бұрын
Also, you can use the by-products of shingle making. The shavings make a fine bedding for the cattle and the trimmings can be used as kindling.
@rocketssss6
@rocketssss6 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, but, how can this help the plebs and their tik tok videos? We live in an era of regression and lost arts. Now "digital" code runs our life and entertains our children. Do you think in 120 years they will be showing off cell phones and dating apps? Probably not. If we even make it that far. -Black Pill out
@sweetkitty2798
@sweetkitty2798 2 жыл бұрын
That's what i was thinking shavings would make great tinder.
@yvespetit
@yvespetit 2 жыл бұрын
That's right Sweet Nara, I sharpen my cedar pickets with a chain saw and since I don't have cattle, I use the shavings as tinder, it's great!
@sweetkitty2798
@sweetkitty2798 2 жыл бұрын
Forgive me, do the cattle eat it?🤔🤨
@shanehiggins8040
@shanehiggins8040 2 жыл бұрын
@@sweetkitty2798 they lay on it for bedding in barns
@jerrytaliercio9087
@jerrytaliercio9087 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of my cousin who is still shingle. I enjoyed watching
@stevealaska73
@stevealaska73 2 жыл бұрын
You shingle-handedly ruined this video for me.
@austinwagoncompany
@austinwagoncompany 6 жыл бұрын
It would've been nice to see more of the mechanical part of this machine.
@johncourtneidge
@johncourtneidge 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely! Thank-you! From a Covid beached Canadian in Littlehampton, West Sussex, by the sea, England.
@centexan
@centexan 2 жыл бұрын
Never seen a shingle saw. Love these old pieces. Just wish the shingles went on the roof that easy!
@slowstang88
@slowstang88 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this video, history should be remembered
@johnlockesghost5592
@johnlockesghost5592 2 жыл бұрын
120 year old machines, still running. Untreated shingles that will outlast the most advanced asphalt shingles available today. *Progress* just means movement in a direction, it doesn't necessarily mean *movement in a better direction*
@leifvejby8023
@leifvejby8023 2 жыл бұрын
How long do they last over there - here it is only 15 - 20 years.
@CrimeVid
@CrimeVid 2 жыл бұрын
A lovely machine, but not the best shingles, sawn shingles are not as good as riven ones, same with plaster laths.
@panchopistola8298
@panchopistola8298 2 жыл бұрын
My house still has the ceder shingles under the asphalt shingles
@super6954
@super6954 2 жыл бұрын
@@leifvejby8023 Hi our family farm house in Manitoba Canada was either built in1974 or 76 I can't remember exactly which years for the house and workshop building. The house still has 90% of the original cedar shakes as they call them round here. My dad replaced 2 small flatter roof areas over the deck and stairs into the basement with modern asphalt shingles during the last 2 years, that had damage from overhanging trees before we bought the place. I'd bet there is about 2 years left in the rest of the original roof before it's replaced to, so if it's 74 I was born that year and 48 they'll be 50 years old if they last that long.
@leifvejby8023
@leifvejby8023 2 жыл бұрын
@@super6954 Thanks! They don't seem to last very long here, on a nearby museum they lasted about 15 years. The reason can be the climate - Denmark is wetter, colder and have less sun hours than Seattle, which is known for cold, dark and wet weather. Could very well be the reason! Thanks again!
@justdoingitjim7095
@justdoingitjim7095 2 жыл бұрын
When I started working as a carpenter in the late 60's almost every new home had wood shingles. As time went by and fireworks became more plentiful, roof fires from the wooden shingles caused the housing industry to shift to the more common asphalt shingle you see today. While they'll still burn, it's harder to get them lit than the old cedar shingle. Several fire proofing products were invented that could be sprayed onto wood roofs to reduce the chance of fire. But, they were costly both in material and labor to apply it, plus it had to be renewed every few years. So, it just wasn't cost effective enough to save the wooden shingle roof!
@deanerhar
@deanerhar 2 жыл бұрын
This is why towns stink now. There is nothing quite like the stench of hot asphalt in morning... 🤤🙃🤢 I much prefer the smell of "firewood" in the morning, even if it is my neighbors house. 😂 ...only my house can have asphalt shingles guys, everyone else must use cedar shingles, and point your fireworks in the opposite direction of me so I can smell the world burn... 🤤🙃😌
@LKRaider
@LKRaider 2 жыл бұрын
@@deanerhar are you sure you need the smell of shingles burning in the morning? Seems to me you could find a good work in a coal locomotive, coaling a steam ship or maybe commited to an asylum.
@suprememasteroftheuniverse
@suprememasteroftheuniverse 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine using ceramic tiles like the Portuguese, Spanish and all its colonies. It's like some Americans are smart and work for the advance of humanity but the rest are just plain $+vp¡d. I guess it's cheaper and warmer to die in a blaze.
@inco-gneito7543
@inco-gneito7543 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone now is going to metal roofs. No more shingles.
@justdoingitjim7095
@justdoingitjim7095 2 жыл бұрын
@@suprememasteroftheuniverse In areas where they used clay tiles on roofs it was done out of necessity. There wasn't enough trees to build the homes, much less use them for shingles. That's why so many used mud brick and other materials used to build homes. In the U.S. there was an abundance of trees, so that's what we used. As for your opinion on "stupid Americans," I'm sure there's an equal amount of stupid people in every nation, including yours!
@pauleohl
@pauleohl 2 жыл бұрын
What comes off that machine is not high quality shingles, but underlay. Good quality cedar shingles are split, not cut, so that the individual fibers of the wood are not all intercepted. They are called hand splits, but they can be split by machine. Split shingles are much thicker than the crap we see here that will quickly split open in the weather.
@ackec-umsekkruch-ekucki952
@ackec-umsekkruch-ekucki952 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I thought. How come such thin shingles survive sun, rain and wind in the long run. The taper also makes sense now. It renders the surface much more flat ready for the actual shingles.
@johnaustin6673
@johnaustin6673 2 жыл бұрын
Shakes are split shingles are sawn
@Cody_Ramer
@Cody_Ramer 2 жыл бұрын
Wrong. Wood Shingles are cut, wood shakes are split.
@duncandmcgrath6290
@duncandmcgrath6290 2 жыл бұрын
Rough sawn shingles are older than that machine , I've got them on the side of my camp and they were put there in 64' . If there was any logic to your comment , sawn lumber of any species wouldn't last the elements.
@dherman0001
@dherman0001 2 жыл бұрын
Best used under porches or gables with limited exposure. Interior also
@jusdafax1
@jusdafax1 2 жыл бұрын
Right at the beginning, notice how he holds the crank to start the tractor all four fingers and his thumb on the same side of the handle. Youngsters, those younger than 70, may not know that if you grab the handle with your thumb on the opposite side, there is a possibility that the engine will backfire, the crank will turn in the opposite direction, and it will break your thumb.
@uncouthboy8028
@uncouthboy8028 2 жыл бұрын
Dude I think you meant to say under 90. It has been an extremely long time since a hand crank was a common feature on engines, and even when they were common loads of people never touched them.
@preciousplasticph
@preciousplasticph 2 жыл бұрын
@@uncouthboy8028 Actually Kubota still sells a hand cranked diesel engine. 7hp stationary engines start around 2k USD in Asia brand new.
@joshschneider9766
@joshschneider9766 2 жыл бұрын
He even uses an old line shaft system. Absolutely authentic!! Thanks for sharing!
@colinm1502
@colinm1502 2 жыл бұрын
Love the blade guard.
@donaldfrazier5244
@donaldfrazier5244 2 жыл бұрын
And yet this old guy has all of his fingers ,amazing isn’t it!
@PhilJonesIII
@PhilJonesIII 2 жыл бұрын
@@LazloNQ And some people don't need it anymore.
@Cocpain
@Cocpain 2 жыл бұрын
I was always taught to use machines and equipment like the safety features were not there. The safer you make something the more complacent people get around it, and that is when terrible things happen. Still today mills have huge saws that could easily cut you in two if not careful, but the people operating it Know that, and always take precautions, mindful, but not afraid, kind of a tradesman code.
@uselogicplease2380
@uselogicplease2380 2 жыл бұрын
Notice how he knows how to start his tractor without breaking his thumb
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 2 жыл бұрын
I expect that most people who own hand-cranked engines know that...
@richardpenny7813
@richardpenny7813 2 жыл бұрын
Come now, that's common knowledge for anyone that's been around hand crank starters. But for those that haven't; you turn it slowly until you get a cylinder on the compression stroke (you'll know because of the increase in resistance), preferably with the handle between 12:30 and 2:30, then you reposition your thumb. DO NOT grip it like a bat or a bottle, but rather put your thumb along side your index finger. This way if the machine kicks back the crank will slip out of your grip. Remember most engines fire before TDC, and most of these engines were to simplistic for an automated timing retarder. Then with a quick motion shove the crank through the rest of the compression stroke, hopefully starting the engine. With a cold engine I find that leaving the ignition off, activating the choke, and cranking the machine rather quickly for 15-20 seconds, before turning on the ignition and performing the steps listed helps. If requested I can do a video showing and explaining how.
@kaloosh2639
@kaloosh2639 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardpenny7813 yeah that sounds really interesting if you can and have a handcrank engine make a tutorial/tip video🌊🌊✌
@vaughanellis7866
@vaughanellis7866 2 жыл бұрын
There was an Old Boy over here in the UK called Jack Hargreaves OBE, who presented two TV programs, Out of Town and Old Country by himself and a children TV program with 4 other presenters which was called How! showing how things worked. He'd have loved to have seen that shingle mill running, his programs focused on country life in the UK from the end of WW2 on, there a page about him on Wikipedia that gives a good rundown of his life ; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Hargreaves
@k13ehr
@k13ehr 2 жыл бұрын
Plenty of Jacks videos on KZfaq. HOW!!
@thecaptain7411
@thecaptain7411 2 жыл бұрын
A childhood favourite, Jack Hargreaves.
@twatmunro
@twatmunro 2 жыл бұрын
@@thecaptain7411 -- I always prefered the hot girl myself. Susan Shanks? Susan Spanks?
@unclenogbad1509
@unclenogbad1509 2 жыл бұрын
@@twatmunro Susan Stranks (agree with description), but she presented Magpie, How! had Bunty James alongside Fred Dinage and - damn, now I'll have too look up the science guy's name. Jon something?
@unclenogbad1509
@unclenogbad1509 2 жыл бұрын
Countryman Jack - fond memories of a great old timer with such a calm and informative demeanour.
@deborahgeorge3238
@deborahgeorge3238 2 жыл бұрын
My grand parents used the offcut shavings toput in the outhouse to cover every time it was used.
@flhusa1
@flhusa1 9 жыл бұрын
the earliest shingles used were made of oak and split by hand. the tree that was used was called the shingle oak because of this.i had a shingle oak in the back yard of my old house and nobody could correctly identify it until i researched the leaf on the internet.the only way to properly identify a oak tree is by the leaf.The lumber of shingle oak is unimportant as a commercial timber tree, although it will be harvested if of sawlog size. The wood is not distinguished from other red oaks. Settlers discovered that it split easily and could be used for shingles or shakes, thus its common name.
@ghettohillbilly1
@ghettohillbilly1 7 жыл бұрын
thats not true at all
@mwilliamshs
@mwilliamshs 7 жыл бұрын
earliest successful shingles were made of chestnut
@maxdecphoenix
@maxdecphoenix 6 жыл бұрын
Any wood can serve as a 'successful shingle, the only difference being in how long they'd last. It's not like people were not going to put a roof on if they didn't have chestnut, they'd just use what was at hand.
@Mtbambeno
@Mtbambeno 2 жыл бұрын
I have a few shingle oaks on my place.
@leifvejby8023
@leifvejby8023 2 жыл бұрын
@@mwilliamshs We used oak here about 1100 years ago - as shown by a single shingle found in a well a few years ago.
@peteacher52
@peteacher52 2 жыл бұрын
In the mid-70s I heard a little American girl saying that her grandad had a shake mill. It took me some time to find out what it was as I had visions of a flour mill with the DTs! Col, NZ.
@scottandersen420
@scottandersen420 2 жыл бұрын
Bad idea to have office folk next to machinery!
@davearonow65
@davearonow65 2 жыл бұрын
Meh. A little 6 foot Razor sharp blade spinning at a few hundred rpm never hurt anybody.
@Sebastian_Dinwiddie
@Sebastian_Dinwiddie 2 жыл бұрын
Especially when one of them is Michael Harris from Newhart.
@nml5960
@nml5960 2 жыл бұрын
@@davearonow65 I lost both legs and an elbow last week...
@Criggster
@Criggster 2 жыл бұрын
This entire thread is made up of great comments 😂
@Xonikz
@Xonikz 2 жыл бұрын
Ye old classic sawstop action - put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus, and you've got to make it stop.
@joshuamasonseight-bitbasta2451
@joshuamasonseight-bitbasta2451 2 жыл бұрын
Man I love Canadians. don't ever change.
@danstrayer111
@danstrayer111 2 жыл бұрын
I worked in one of the last old-time big shingle mills, in Washington, in the early 70's. I believe it was from the 30's. In a two story creaking wooden building 200+ feet long was 10 of these saws, just like the one in the video. These were on the second floor. Below, huge logs were hauled from the lake, and bucked into 16" thick slices, then broken into chunks with air chisels. A conveyor brought upstairs huge blocks of cedar, 50-80 pounds, many cut from 1,000 year old trees 6-8 feet in diameter. My job was to pile those on a big steel deck behind the sawyer to await sawing.Working next to those 10 screaming saws was a nightmare. The volume of the noise is indescribable and was enough to actually make me sick.. It was one of the worst jobs I ever had, I started having horrible dreams after 2 weeks and quit.
@laius6047
@laius6047 2 жыл бұрын
I know your pain. Worked in enough workshops to know how annoying constant loud noise can be. But it is mandatory to wear ear protection nowadays. Not sure about 70's.
@Brain69420
@Brain69420 2 жыл бұрын
Its crazy people cut down such magnificent trees, a shame really when there are so many decades old that would do just fine.
@k13ehr
@k13ehr 2 жыл бұрын
I wish we could see a longer HD version of one of these Machines.
@dougeverett4350
@dougeverett4350 2 жыл бұрын
Cool as shit. Worked with cedar shakes most of my career . Roof and wall. Love these specialized old machines. Shudder maker cool also. Could all be powered by water wheel
@rivernet62
@rivernet62 2 жыл бұрын
I’m enjoying the sophisticated system of guards and fail-safes
@roberthorn3587
@roberthorn3587 2 жыл бұрын
IMAGINE SHOWING UP WITH GOGGLES. EAR PROTECTION A HARD HAT STEEL TOE BOOTS,GLOVES, GREEN GLOW IN THE DARK VEST!!? YOU WOULD BE THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE WHOLE TOWN MAYBE THE STATE!! AND THEY WOULD SAY TO MUCH SISSY SAUCE ON THAT BOY!! IS WHAT MY GRANDFATHER AND FATHER AND UNCLES WOULD HAVE DEEMED THE GUY A FERRY!!!? THEY CALLED IT CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM AND FK YOUR FEELINGS LEAVE THEM HOME WITH THE WOMEN AND BABIES!!???
@stronghammerv
@stronghammerv 2 жыл бұрын
"safety" as a concept was later invented after the turn of the century.
@pv2870
@pv2870 2 жыл бұрын
The failsafe back then, was having 10 kids.
@mikestroman353
@mikestroman353 4 жыл бұрын
Great machine no doubt . But did anyone notice the studabaker truck behind the folks as they talked ? That a nice looking truck .
@curbmassa
@curbmassa 2 жыл бұрын
1940 Dodge.
@colinbateman8233
@colinbateman8233 2 жыл бұрын
We had a single mill on the farm when I was a boy love the smell of cedar when your cutting
@MichaelKingsfordGray
@MichaelKingsfordGray 2 жыл бұрын
Single?
@Howardhandupme
@Howardhandupme 2 жыл бұрын
I tore down my old home built in 1905. Under a asphalt roof and metal roof was original cedar shakes. Ones protected from exposure were just as pretty as day they were layed. Neat knowing how they were made.
@donaldfuck
@donaldfuck 2 жыл бұрын
Why bro
@ronskancke1489
@ronskancke1489 2 жыл бұрын
My great grandfather owned the first bandsaw in minnehaha county south Dakota. It was steam powered. I have a stable biult in the 1860s . There are half inch boards in the walls holding concrete so it wouldn't blow away. I'm sure these boards were cut on his band saw. It was still around 40 years ago but has now dissapeared for ever.
@gregorymosher5008
@gregorymosher5008 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that. Nothing lasts forever, but pictures and stories, and most importantly how and why to do things must be passed down to our children!
@PalmettoNDN
@PalmettoNDN 2 жыл бұрын
Walnut was used often in the east and in Europe. It was the favored shingle material going back to the Anglo-Saxons and wooden shingles in place of thatch is one of the methods used to divide Anglo-Saxon from Celtic habitation of a village.
@walterbeech9690
@walterbeech9690 5 жыл бұрын
Outstanding vid and a great machine!
@bushcrafter6416
@bushcrafter6416 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool!!!! Love old tools.....
@kirkglundal4289
@kirkglundal4289 2 жыл бұрын
A periodic application of linseed oil and pine tar to a wooden shingle roof can make it last 100's if not a thousand years... depending on pitch and quality of shingles/shakes. I bet the oil industry doesn't want you to know about that!
@rogercarroll1663
@rogercarroll1663 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. This film is great work.
@littlecabininthebigwoods5720
@littlecabininthebigwoods5720 2 жыл бұрын
There’s a huge saw that’s 100+ years old and i’m staring at those haircuts and her vest. Ah, the early 90s.
@Tre16
@Tre16 2 жыл бұрын
Cool, i used to work at a shake and shingle mill in British Columbia. Takes me back!
@obhobo
@obhobo 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that this awesome dude has all of his fingers is proof he possesses more wisdom than 3/4 of our current population. (*and I am being generous)
@davidsmith4363
@davidsmith4363 2 жыл бұрын
At the Port of Everett Marina there is a park where they have information on shingle cutters(the workers). They were easy to recognizes by their multiple missing fingers.
@dedwin8930
@dedwin8930 2 жыл бұрын
The art of making old machines with no computers
@johnguindon2319
@johnguindon2319 2 жыл бұрын
cedar shingles are the best, my friend replaced the 100 year old cottage roof with a tin roof, shingles weren't leaking but had tons of moss and buildup ;-) they did a great job!
@codysimmonds2944
@codysimmonds2944 2 жыл бұрын
Some of the barns I have re roofed had cedar shingles that were well over 120 years pretty crazy
@ErikPukinskis
@ErikPukinskis 2 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, were they sawn or split?
@codysimmonds2944
@codysimmonds2944 2 жыл бұрын
@@ErikPukinskis both.
@TheShorebird
@TheShorebird 2 жыл бұрын
That's really neat. I've installed and removed a lot of Cedar Shakes and never knew how they were made back in the day. Thanks!
@suprememasteroftheuniverse
@suprememasteroftheuniverse 2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand. Where are the gay black disabled minority and the social criticism? Did they call that journalism?
@littlecabininthebigwoods5720
@littlecabininthebigwoods5720 2 жыл бұрын
Technically these are shingles. Shakes are hand split and shaven flat and last a bit longer.
@TheShorebird
@TheShorebird 2 жыл бұрын
@@littlecabininthebigwoods5720 Thanks for the info.
@craigslattery934
@craigslattery934 2 жыл бұрын
Love old machinery and seeing how things were done in yester year
@andyjohnson3790
@andyjohnson3790 2 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking that all that cedar sawdust was used to pack ice sheds to keep the ice cold most of the summer
@GregKrynen
@GregKrynen 2 жыл бұрын
Or insulating animals sheds, or maybe bedding for some.
@ralphh4131
@ralphh4131 4 жыл бұрын
look at how that massie starts! easy as pie!
@leepinlepin
@leepinlepin 2 жыл бұрын
Sunsets were really beautiful in the 90s
@colincrooky
@colincrooky 2 жыл бұрын
Very good Owen, it looks well looked after. I noticed your thumb whilst cranking, you’re looking after that too. Thanks very much great video.
@orbsphere-
@orbsphere- 2 жыл бұрын
When folks and I moved down from NoCal Trinity Alps to LoCal Los Angeles area brought several bundles (called squares - enough to cover 100 sq. ft.) of shakes and shingles with us. Dad and I (10y.o.) roofed front porch roof and rear corner of house walls. 60 years later roof shakes turned into what I considered equivalent of match sticks waiting for something to happen (replaced now with compo roof) but wall corner still in good condition but much darker. Don't think shakes were true shakes but what dad called combed shingles with small shallow groves.
@bphenry
@bphenry 2 жыл бұрын
That mechanism is super interesting. All of these machines are terrifying! Those open blades, the giant belt just waiting to grab the unwary. It is amazing that more people didn't lose limbs or die outright.
@teebob21
@teebob21 2 жыл бұрын
The people too dumb to work around such machinery weeded themselves out back then.
@mercoid
@mercoid 2 жыл бұрын
@@teebob21 ….Now that we’ve (corporate lawyers) have made just about everything safe as can be, we let idiots do all sorts of things. The result…., decreased productivity, shoddy work and the perpetuation of even more idiots. 👍
@MrBrody420
@MrBrody420 2 жыл бұрын
Outlived the town that built it. Nice
@roo3566
@roo3566 2 жыл бұрын
No computers, just a good eye and brains!
@joeschmoe7099
@joeschmoe7099 2 жыл бұрын
Had no idea id be watching this today, love it
@justwondering786
@justwondering786 2 жыл бұрын
Those were the good old days !
@idahogreen2885
@idahogreen2885 2 жыл бұрын
SUPER AWESOME VIDEO DUDE!!!! thank you for resurrecting it, just watched it at lunch with some guys on the job and we all loved the action of the machine and how it made that basically foolproof to get good, consistent material out of it. We all kinda thought it would be cool to be back before battery operated tools and air compressors and extension cords and shit makin houses that way. We all decided it would be way funner.
@localeightironworker
@localeightironworker 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, that would be fun. less safety crap but a lot more backbreaking manual labor. lot more time laboring onsite. but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. would be real interesting to see some of the tools that got put to task back then. i imagine they'd put up some kind of gin pole to set rafters with.
@garettanderson6772
@garettanderson6772 2 жыл бұрын
That thing is super cool!
@jackierandall2230
@jackierandall2230 2 жыл бұрын
Very impressive. Been putting those on my house as siding . They look beautiful. Nice to see how they are made
@donaldfrazier5244
@donaldfrazier5244 2 жыл бұрын
Our cape cod style house has a double layer of cedar shingles as siding and it’s awesome looking!
@barryrhoads8716
@barryrhoads8716 2 жыл бұрын
In Tennessee, white oak is the product of choice for split shakes. You split on the grain for the best water resistance. Plus white oak has tylosis in the parenchyma cells that retards water entry.There are buildings that I know of that have oak shakes that are 80-100 years old. Sawing is ok, but cutting across the grain opens up the pores an allows water penetration. Having hand split a bunch of white oak shakes by hand with a froe and wood mallet, I can tell you the work is a man killer.
@zachsheffee8458
@zachsheffee8458 2 жыл бұрын
There are average houses that are 100 years old. 100 years is not a big deal anymore.
@johnfahey7215
@johnfahey7215 2 жыл бұрын
Purrs like a kitten!😃 Thanks
@charleshillman2010
@charleshillman2010 2 жыл бұрын
In Australia the preferred timber was Casuarina (commonly called Sheoak. It had a very straight grain and was split by hand.
@lorenelkin9415
@lorenelkin9415 3 жыл бұрын
Sawdust was often used for packaging, like today's bubble wrap.
@paulnovak833
@paulnovak833 3 жыл бұрын
Its called excelsior
@mrfester42
@mrfester42 2 жыл бұрын
They didn't use sawdust for packaging. They used the shavings which were called excelsior.
@steveg2479
@steveg2479 2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather had a sawbench very much like that, belt driven from his tractor. Probably safer than the 60 Navy Cuts he smoked every day.
@servicetrucker5564
@servicetrucker5564 2 жыл бұрын
That’s breathing in more smoke than air
@steveg2479
@steveg2479 2 жыл бұрын
@@servicetrucker5564 He did give that up at 62. Breathing air that is.
@servicetrucker5564
@servicetrucker5564 2 жыл бұрын
@@steveg2479 Damn
@jamespurvis8880
@jamespurvis8880 2 жыл бұрын
I have one that was made by Waterous Engine Works in Brantford Canada. PATD. 1874
@nimmen
@nimmen 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, Bosma is a Frisian name and when he speaks, there's this slight accent that I recognise as being from there in the way syllables with R and L are pronounced. He must have some ancestry from that region. Groetnis út Fryslân! ;)
@hekjeee
@hekjeee 2 жыл бұрын
Of gewoon bij de buren oet grunn
@nimmen
@nimmen 2 жыл бұрын
@@hekjeee kan ook inderdaad
@vincenttavani6380
@vincenttavani6380 2 жыл бұрын
Owen was born closer in time to the shingle machine than to now.
@GratefulNPC
@GratefulNPC 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe this was filmed in 1870
@jhart7304
@jhart7304 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for posting this
@CascadePacificNW
@CascadePacificNW 2 жыл бұрын
It’s part of history, but it’s not like these things aren’t being made still. In fact I am working for a guy out of oregon who owns a shingle mill in Siletz oregon. Everything is run off electricity now but his saws look and work just like this one with some other minor upgrades. Hearing that this saw is used in shows and stuff is interesting, I can’t wait to tell him that his equipment belongs in a museum lol.
@leslieholman3121
@leslieholman3121 2 жыл бұрын
my great grandfather and grandfather used to make shingles with a machine similar to this one , I love running any old belt driven equipment .
@mirriulahwaterdog
@mirriulahwaterdog 2 жыл бұрын
Shingles sure beat the heck out of the lino imitations today.
@mrbrown6421
@mrbrown6421 2 жыл бұрын
For 2 years, the KZfaq Algo has wanted me to view this. Finally. Do I win any awards Mr YT Algo? Dear YT Algo: How many body parts how been affected by the big beautiful blade?
@billmorris2613
@billmorris2613 2 жыл бұрын
Good morning to all from SE Louisiana 27 Jun 22.
@gladdingman
@gladdingman 2 жыл бұрын
That giant spinning blade he used to trim them makes me really nervous
@briangery7963
@briangery7963 2 жыл бұрын
Scary looking machines if you aren’t paying close attention. No safety gear designed into those old machines. Very cool mechanisms though….
@kristianskov4841
@kristianskov4841 2 жыл бұрын
Them old machines had the best and most versatile form of safety installed... It's called "common sense"... But it's not used very often these days....
@anthonylemkendorf3114
@anthonylemkendorf3114 2 жыл бұрын
Not every carpenter with 10 fingers has common sense. That’s a foolish assumption.
@trumpdonald6911
@trumpdonald6911 2 жыл бұрын
That equipment also kept the local doctor in business.
@grassroot011
@grassroot011 2 жыл бұрын
Or undertaker.
@imdeplorable2241
@imdeplorable2241 2 жыл бұрын
I've never seen how "cedar shakes" were made. Thanks for the education. 👍
@franek_izerski
@franek_izerski 2 жыл бұрын
Now that's a machine I could use!!
@DeanMk1
@DeanMk1 2 жыл бұрын
...and all powered by the family tractor. That's pretty cool.
@mikecrystalrobert7898
@mikecrystalrobert7898 2 жыл бұрын
My grandparents camp was over 200 year old historical house it had them cedar shingles for many years we just recently had changed them to new cedar shingles but the old ones were much nicer
@richardlilley6274
@richardlilley6274 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@DrinkinDaJuice
@DrinkinDaJuice 2 жыл бұрын
Man I bet he gave everybody shingles with that thing
@geedubb2005
@geedubb2005 9 жыл бұрын
and that is the proper way to crank an engine!
@jimiumm
@jimiumm 9 жыл бұрын
That is correct Many old timers have broke or lost a thumb by holding the crank wrong while cranking the engine
@geedubb2005
@geedubb2005 9 жыл бұрын
I learned the hard way!
@thra5herxb12s
@thra5herxb12s 9 жыл бұрын
Gee Dubb Me too, I blacked my eye when the handle snatched back. It was kinda funny though.
@geedubb2005
@geedubb2005 9 жыл бұрын
looking back it's kinda funny. My dad was so pissed at me because I was told not to crank it and I did anyway. I was soaking my arm in the livestock water tank and it didn't help so he made my mom take me to the hospital where I was fitted with a cast for two month. Oh, the dumb things we do when we're young! I don't crank anything bigger than a chainsaw. Almost 50 years later and I still remember the pain! LOL!
@thra5herxb12s
@thra5herxb12s 9 жыл бұрын
Too true. These days I dont lean over the starting handle just in case it does kick back and never wrap my thumb around the handle either.
@alitlweird
@alitlweird 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine all of the horrific accidents people have had with machines like that!! 😖😳
@catseatcheese
@catseatcheese 2 жыл бұрын
Working with those open blades would scare the bejezus out of me.
@Sayitaint_So
@Sayitaint_So 2 жыл бұрын
Galt is all i heard ... In Canada the Galt group had special rights by the British governors to buy Clergy Reserve land in the early 1800's. They could buy entire townships for super cheap. The government intended them to develop it for future income to the government. I am certain that the Galt group had no trouble supplying such mills with the large supply of trees in those townships. The Galt group also played a role in developing St Marys near Cambridge and from that base sent surveyors and developers into the Haliburton forest and so on... The machine was built in the 1870's when the British gave up control of the British North American colonies ( provinces and territories ) to Canadian bureaucrats ( 1867 Dominion of Canada ) .... this vid says something about cutting shingles and a whole lot about the evolution of machinery and of a nation.
@s2art720
@s2art720 2 жыл бұрын
Back in a better time, when people had better values and knew who and what they were.
@SebastianScholle
@SebastianScholle 2 жыл бұрын
funny how it's amazing to people that old things are useful.... 😄 this should be the norm, not always buying new equipment. often good maintenance is all that's required.
@brianpstn74
@brianpstn74 2 жыл бұрын
The closest to Green we could’ve ever gotten. But everybody wants convenience and I have to admit HVAC is very nice
@austin2842
@austin2842 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing.
@yodapapavintageamericana
@yodapapavintageamericana 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, my new friend
@AirCrash1
@AirCrash1 2 жыл бұрын
How a man goes from this to mudering thousands of innocents is hard to imagine.
@QIKUGAMES-QIKU
@QIKUGAMES-QIKU 2 жыл бұрын
Australian Cedar is Rich red and Can produce a lot of sap but is strong as Hell and burns so well, I made a red cedar baseball bat and was heavy as iron and it was hard as to !
@laius6047
@laius6047 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure what species you're talking about. Just fiy it's not real cedar. There are only 4 cedars that grow in middle East, the rest are pines and trees that have name "cedar". Those real cedars are quite soft, but very durable in terms of rot and insect attacks.
@Opinionatedguy1989
@Opinionatedguy1989 2 жыл бұрын
The Phillips mill would run that all day every day.
@MDR-hn2yz
@MDR-hn2yz 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool video.
@42lookc
@42lookc 2 жыл бұрын
Even the original reel of this video is 32 years old now.
@shingleflex5064
@shingleflex5064 2 жыл бұрын
Love it!!
@geza96
@geza96 2 жыл бұрын
I still use shingles from BC, would you believe I live in Australia! I like working with them. I wish I had one of these, I would be a rich man
@randomconsumer4494
@randomconsumer4494 2 жыл бұрын
120 in the 70s... I wonder where that machine is today.
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