I've gardened with roses for years and had various results (ended up buying only rugosas after some losses). But now that I'm in the second year of landscaping my first house, I've taken a greater interest in them. It started with some potted roses I bought for 90 percent off one November. They had to go through a polar vortex in the Midwest that occurred several weeks after planting, but that Summer the three of them filled my side garden with beautiful blooms ('Music Box' showed beautiful color changes from bud, to bloom, to withering away). Anyway, after some frustrating web page searches for basic rose info, I decided to look for videos about bare vs grafted plants. And this video taught me so much, made it seem so simple. It's rare to find a KZfaq video that can concisely and quickly deliver the facts you need in an easy to understand manner. This video had it in spades. Also, thanks for not making me wait first through a subscription plea!

Okay, so is it tacky to leave the first comment on your own video? There were a couple of things I didn't mention (I knew the video was running a bit long) but here goes: the variety 'Complicata' that I showed late in the video is a strong grower on its own roots, and roots from cuttings fairly easily - so I have no idea why the supplier would have grafted instead. Also, I should mention that when dealing with some garden roses that sucker heavily on their own roots (I'm thinking of 'Charles de MIlls', Gallica officinalis) it would be some advantage to graft them onto a less "suckery" rootstock.

I am in total agreement with you on own root roses . I just got tired of suckers appearing on my grafted roses.

Hey there! Just a quick comment to say thanks for your no nonsense, highly informative videos... Love watching them, and always look forward to the next one! Keep up the great work!

Thank you for your videos. I've been binge watching you. You are very knowledgeable and articulate, Jason. Very easy to follow, no dramatic presentation but not boring either. You have that true educator's trade!

I always learn so much from you. Thanks for making these videos.

Wow thank you so much you learn something new everyday

Very interesting, I grow roses from my own cuttings,and was pondering this very question. Thank you ☺️

this was the most thorough and intelligent explanation of rose grafting issues. I have been racking my brain trying to figure out why my plant all of a sudden shoots a different variety leaves and flowers. Thank you!

Thank you, I subscribed your channel because your content is really good, gives me a lot of the knowledge 👍

I love the roses. And I love your Channel. Thank you so much.

I'm just learning about this and the mystery about the red/yellow rose that just blossomed when I "could've sworn" I didn't buy this color, has been solved! You explained everything so wonderfully here and have been a big help. Thank you🌹. (And here I thought the store jipped me by selling the wrong rose...).

Great videos, so interesting. I've been binge watching them, thanks! :)

Thanks for the rose knowledge!

I've grown Canadian roses for years when you plant them you have flowers that same season. When I sold my house 15 years later they all was still doing very well I should have dug them all up and took them with me to the new house since seller dug them all up .

I very much appreciate ALL of your teaching videos. I was introduced to roses as a small girl in my grandfather's garden. Rose Love!! You have enhanced my knowledge greatly. Thank you for all you are doing to educate! Some days... I binge your videos 😉 🌹 Bless you and your passion for everything roses.

I am not a gardener...but love learning all the knowledge from you.... thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge

Great explanation. Grafted roses are so tempting because as you said, instant gratification, but it’s not worth the downsides.

Wow ... Jason, u've answered so many questions here for me !!! This is all very new for me , I purchased two climbing roses last yr and they have been putting out sooooo many suckers ( so annoying ) now I understand why 😳 !!! After watching this video I'm so mad that producers would sell a plant that causes this kind of annoyance .. t was not a bargain either but hopefully the blooms will make it all worthwhile 😁 . Thank - u for the lesson 👍 .

Thanks for the advice! I was wondering if its worth the trouble to graft.

Hello! I’m from Italy ( near Milan, the northest big city ) and I love roses. The major european rosaist breeder ( kordes, austin, meilland, poulsen and so many other ) reproduce and sell their roses in europe by grafting. There are some big plant nursery that reproduce and sell ( legally certified ) roses own roots from these rosaist; we have a big possibility of choice! In my experience, own roots roses are better FOR THE GARDEN not only for the assence of Wild suckering ( the maintenance is lowered ) and the longevity, but the roses own roots can make a better full plant with many canes and branches that sprout from the roots. Don’t remove them! I think that if your soil has no problem with nematodes, own roots roses are better plant! If a rose is a vigorous one variety, go own roots. Here in north Italy the majority of the shrub rose ( rugosas, hybrid musk, austin, old european roses once flowering or repeating ) are sufficiently vigorous to grow on own roots. I noticed that even kordes roses like parfuma serie, that are hybrid tea and floribunda, are more vigorous from the average hybrid tea and floribunda, and make a wonderful plant on own roots ( exactly like a vigorous austin rose ). In my garden I have the generous gardener, scepter d’isle, Gertrude jekyll, grossherzogin louise/spicy parfuma, louise odier, buff beauty that are higher and wider that a man!!! I swear❤ In the their 3-5 years they love horticoltural cares ( like a lot of good organic matters and mulch ) but when they are adult plant, they are unstoppable. They are like the other flowering shrub of the garden and not difficult plants to care!!!!! I love your videos! All the best!😘

Long time no see, i couldnt see my late comments as i have changed my numbers. Nice video again...

Esses seus argumentos são preciosos, parabéns. Você conseguiu pensar fora do tradicional e ver o valor do natural. Comprei umas rosas e já estou enraizando uns cortes. Muito obrigado, o seu trabalho é realmente diferenciado.

i just discover your channel and i love it. I know that you came to hate retail, but you have to say, they gave you great qualities you would only get through the corporate vibe.

Thanks for this!

VERY INTERESTING INFORMATION ! THANK YOU ! LIKE :)

Nice Roses

good info

We ve been buying grafted rose plants, which die as you ve explained . I prefer root rose, but difficult to get on market

I tookk cuttings of a louis philippe rose this march and the plants that grew from it have done well and have grown with vigor

Very informative video as usual Jason. What brought me here was seeing footage of Golden Celebration and Abraham Darby grafted. I have both of those roses own root for at least 3 years and have yet to see the ridiculously large blooms that they're known for. Meanwhile, someone with grafted versions have not only beautiful, very lush and sturdy foliage, but freakin humongous blooms and buds! It made me wonder if those varieties just aren't as good on their own roots, or if I'm just being impatient.

Thank you

Just a comment here on my experience growing old garden roses in cold zones of Ontario, with the bud union/graft planted 3" below the ground in areas comprised of sandy loam... Established damasks and gallicas grafted on multiflora understock will eventually form roots ABOVE that graft and reject the understock altogether. They will throw runners above the graft as well. Tender roses like hybrid teas, floribundas, HP's, bourbons, David Austins, etc., require the support of a hardy understock as they typically can't survive frozen winters on their natural roots. With their bud unions buried deep for protection, they don't adequately root above the graft in cold zones. There are roses (ie; Agriculture Canada) that do suffer cane damage in winter, however; their natural root system survives solid frozen ground and puts out new growth each spring. In certain cases, pimpinellifolia and spinossissima hybrids are known to be grafted (for mass production) because they fail to root easy, despite their reputation for having the ultimate cane and root hardiness. Depending on soil type, there's a good chance that a tip hardy grafted rose will eventually reject its understock and root itself above the bud union. Pallatine claims to bud graft its old garden types on laxa. I believe Pickering's had been on multiflora.

Hi Jason! Thank you very much for your great videos and for your advise. I would like to propagate my favorite rose - rosa Double Delight from cuttings. The scent is amazing and I absolutely love this rose. I don´t mind waiting for the blooms longer but in this video you called this variery "weak". Should I give a try or rather buy this variety grafted?

This is quite informative. I wonder, is there any difference between the quality of the roses produced by the two types of plants?

I’m on a Fraser Valley Rose vid binge this week 😂. I notice that with my own root roses, they like to send out “summer” canes all the way from the bottom which produce thicker and bigger leaves. Typical grafted roses does not do that and when they do, it’s considered as suckers. The best alternate method is to re-graft the sucker instead of pulling them out.

Hi Jason in my opinion because of your videos you're an expert on roses. So by chance could you tell me or do a video on making your own rose trees are tree roses. I have been trying at myself and I've had some success with the shoots that come up from the rootstock but the rootstock stem still produces Bud's that grow into climbing roses. I would greatly appreciate it get back to me as soon as you can. Thank you Phil

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Very informative . Thanks. Once the rose gets more suckers than the original rose,can it be saved?

interesting. i inherited a garden from the previous tennant and dont know what types of roses there are. i let them all bloom and decided theres only two i would keep. i suspected the landlord cut them all down to the ground and the rootstock replaced the originals but i think there might be some sucker action going on too. i will be a bit more brazen about cutting them back

Hi Jason. Hope all has been well on the farm. I have been wondering I cannot recall seeing it. Do you attempt to propagate your suckers growing from your grafted roses to add for future grafting material ?

Should the grafted section be below soil or above

Hi Jason, I am going completely off topic here. I live in New Zealand and we are at the start of blooming time. I watched your video on aphids and have been taking your advice on not spraying. ‘Digital ‘ control is good, for most roses. Our problem is black spot. I am being pressured to spray to reduce it. What would your advice be?

I recently bought a house with a few rose bushes on the property. One of the rose bushes has a huge thick stem (maybe 4 inches across). Anyways, I notice that 2 different types of roses grow from what seems to be the same spot, but one side is much thicker and is full of cream/pink flowers (sometimes totally pink sometimes totally cream). On the other side is a consistently pink rose bush with maybe 3 lanky stems on it - these look gorgeous and smell heavenly but I only get maybe 3 blooms a year. Is there any way to bring this plant back? I'm concerned that if I cut off the "sucker" that the plant wont have enough leaves on it to survive.. Can you advise?

Could you make a video about how to do to potted roses that sort of outgrow the pots but you just can't grow them in the ground or give them bigger pots anymore? I heard of their performance would decline and die eventually. Is this true?

I've always grown grafted hybrid tea roses, but next spring I think I may order a couple of own root roses. Have you ordered any from Heirloom Rose's? Thanks, John

HI, thanks for uploading such an informative video about how deep should we bury the crown for a grafted rose. For the same I wrote to David Austin experts and they said to bury the crown 1 to 2 inches below the ground level. But still I had the question what if scion develops its own roots, then the purpose of grafting technique is gone a bit (the same you clarified here, thanks). Regarding the suckers it is clear that they should be removed carefully by digging down to the root. But what if we get new scion shots development above or on the crown, should we remove them too or they are considered to be as bonus scion shots. My second question is, can we get the same beautiful flower verities from the own root plants as we get by the grafting technique. Like David Austin’s Gertrude Jekyll is available in both and they claim it similar in characteristics and quality.

This video is spot on! I’ve been researching either buying own root or grafted for an upcoming DA order. I’ve had people tell me either is fine but I do not want to be dealing with Dr. Huey suckers…….ever. I bought 4 DA roses in 3 gallon pots last year from a local nursery and they were phenomenal. All before I realized there was a difference in own root and grafted. I relocated one of them recently and took pictures of the rootstock but I cannot tell if it is own root or grafted. Is there a way to send you a picture so you can help me figure it out? Also do you know if there are varieties of DA roses that are only sold exclusively as bare root? I am after Oliva Rose Austin but I don’t want to purchase grafted of this variety.

Can you propagate the grafted rose to create an own-root rose of the desired variety? Thanks for the great video!

Is it possible to get a grafted rose to root from the stem if I plant the graft far enough below the soil line?

Just started collecting roses last year so still learning the basics! More familiar with peonies, specifically tree peonies. They are typically grafted, sometimes on the other tree peony roots but more often onto the storage root of a herbaceous peony, mainly lactifloras because they aren’t known to be adventitious. After several years the tree peony will grow its own root and the herbaceous root will rot away. Does anything like that ever happen to grafted roses?

Thanks for this video. I bought a lot of rootstock originally to try grafting but my main issue is that it seems to be very difficult to do. Own root is easier to do. I now have about 100 rootstock in the back garden which I’ll probably try again on next year when they’re more established but I don’t think I’ll be buying anymore.

Noticed there seems to be so much debate recently about own root and grafted. My take has always been it depends. Depends on what you are going for, what you need etc. Something you did miss on the grafted side was disease resistance, which is why I chose grafted for my fruit trees (Also we have fruit salad trees to help with lower land space). Most of the rootstocks they are grafted on are disease resistant to a lot of the stuff we have here locally. Which I think is great, here in Australia, we don't have the same diseases as the US and in turn, are different from Europe. So you can tailor your tree. Also for things like apples and pears, you have zero choice but to graft. That said, something you didn't mention on the own root side, is at least from seed, if you grow it in the position it will stay in, aka not pot. Then it will grow the strongest roots it ever will. Any growing in pots will always damage roots, either in the pot or when planted into the ground. But if you plant the seed in position, its the best way, although for nearly everything will take years to get to a good size. I am in the process of growing a rootstock to make a multi graft of 3 varieties of pears. Mainly to see if I can do it, or learn something new.

I've had grafted roses like 'Paul Noël' and 'Perpétue et Félicité' simply root themselves in various places by their own, they "rambled" on the ground and where the canes were sheltered from the direct sun they developed roots in the soil and start from that point to produce new canes acting as own root rose while still connected to the grafted rose. This was not done intentionally nor was any thought at any point that the canes might root here and there on the soil.

Hi @fraser vally rose farm. I want some tips for growth as you are gaining. Your roses are amazing but i have a question for you. Which type of soil mixture you used in your rose plant which you shown at 01:46 & what is the rose name ? Give me fertilizer name that you are using on your rose plants.

Will thornless climbing rose grow from cuttings. ???? I tried all year and havent had any takers yet.

I love your videos! I i’ve watched many of them before, but this one came up in a search because I am having a problem with a grafted knockout rose tree. I don’t typically buy knockout roses and this is my only grafted rose. It is sending up a crazy amount of suckers. And I did not cut them back at first because I was curious if I could possibly end up with a new kind of rose from the rootstock. But they do not seem to be budding out at all even though I have let them get quite long. Whatever it is appears to be a climbing rose with flexible canes. Is it possible to let them continue growing and see what kind of rose these knockout roses were grafted onto?

What difference detween a seven leave Rose and five leave rose plant

Hi Jason again…. Do own root roses throw up suckers? I’ve an own rooted rose .. 2 years ago just replanted it in the garden and now looks like it’s throwing up 4/5 suckers … ? They’re lovey deep red and healthy … help. Many thanks B

Hi, can you tell me any GOOD roses to do own-root roses that are not patented that I can start my own rose garden to sell in a few years time please? I'm new to roses, but are fascinated to get some roses going myself. So are there any that I can reproduce without issues? We are in Suffolk UK. Really appreciate your knowledge and advice. Thanks Jo

It is difficult to purchase own root roses here in Australia. Having said that, I have found an organic nursery that sells Cecile Brunner, Duchess de Brabant and Multibilis (I don't think that is correct spelling) on their own roots.

Quick question. Does it matter what time of year I cut back the suckers? Should I wait until it is time for the heavy pruning in early spring? Thanks!

Would the same logic & principles apply to airlayered roses too?

Hi Jason. I have a rose that used to have large white blooms but now has small five petal red blooms. I have since learned that it was probably not growing on it's own roots. My question is: Will it regrow the grafted white rose if I keep the suckers below the bud union cut back? Thanks for your helpful videos. Bee

My brother told me couple of weeks ago that his roses has grown gigantic in two years. Couldn’t believe so I went to see and found that root stock has made a jungle and I could not even find the grafted roses in side.

I recently had a branch on my rose bush to die back pretty much to the base of my own root china rose bush. How can I encourage a new branch to come up?

yes..own roots all the way..the only time i except grafted is if i cant find own root...the only other time might be for a climber. Ramblers are good on own root but climbers being modern mostly can be shy on height if own root,,,the root stock seems to boost the climber to , well climb ..but if you would rather have it shrub size then own it....i landscaped 3/4 an acer around my parents home in the 90s and early 2000s..i had 1,986 roses with only a repeat of mabe 10 and then only one repeat...old garden roses- OGR, hardy shrub, rugosa hybrids, species, climbers/ramblers, David Austins of course, and some FL, HT and GR...one thing i found in my zone 5b garden is i lost alot at first that where supposed to be hardy...so i looked at it this way..since old roses grow in their won roots and the bud union is the weak leak , then burry them...so i started planting the bud union 4 to 5 inches below soil level and with much that could be 1 to 2 inches more...after that i didnt loose a single rose that was rated hardy in my zone period!....I did like to flirt with some that where zone 6 or 7 hardy in micro climates and i lots a few on colder winters, but in all i was very happy...now so many more are own root and i try to get as many as i can find...but still i have to get a few grafted....oh yes the suckers, i had a root stock sucker on a Conrad F Meyer, a hybrid rugosa, and cutting it out was, well that kind of language ill let you fill in....but on the up side roses that do sucker will do so if planted the way i did, and i was able to give friends babies of old roses and rugosa hybrids..i had an Alba semi-plena send out a sucker in just 1 year..i let it do its own thing and i had a HUGE bush in a few years...sadly where i was able to find the majority of my roses has gone out of business, Pickering Roses, possibly one of the largest retail sellers to exist defiantly in the Americas and possibly the world!...if you havent seen their catalog i feel sorry for you, it was a wonder to behold...i hope this has encouraged some colder climate people to try the deep planting system...if you give them a good home, roses are like anything else..they will stay and be happy

Having mucked with roses a bit, and only just began watching this... grafted roses are good for mass production of same roses for commercial market and also handy for some of the fancier hybrid roses that are insanely hard to keep alive as a true rose where a grafted version is more resilient. Otherwise true root roses are brilliant, even more so if you want to muck around and hybridise some out for your own enjoyment.

I still have a little bit of confusion so which one do you reccomend grafted roses or own root roses? and what species of rose is that when you showed in the starting of the video

Is there a way to tell if my roses I planted last year are own root or grafted without completely digging them up? Should I just pull away the dirt to see if there is a graft union or not? Also I’ll be trying to purchase some roses this year from a nursery that will be in 3 gallon pots, can I do the same thing, pull the dirt away to confirm own root or not?

Jason, why do you cut and throw away the root suckers? I have them on some of roses and they bloom.

when you are buying a rose bush is it marked “graft” or rooted? or how can you tell?

Jason, are there any resources for finding out which rose varieties are strong on their own roots/weak? I’d like to try cloning roses again, I’ve gone through at least 4 dozen failures

Take your point it is always better for the gardener to grow own root

Hi Jason, I have rocky sandy loam soil in my Connecticut(zone 7a) house. The winter temperatures sometimes go down to -8/ -9 degree F. I found a nursery in California selling the Yves Piaget rose which is grafted to Dr. Huey rootstock. It is 2 years old rose bush. I just wanted your opinion whether this rose will do well in my weather and my sandy soil. Or should I buy ownroot Yves Piaget rose from another nursery.Please advice.

I also prefer own-root roses. Here in FL our sandy soil is infested with nematodes, and the roses we have available are typically on Dr. Huey or Fortuniana root stock. Can any rose be budded to any root stock? Louis Phillippe grows readily here, and propagates easily. I wonder if it could be used as a root stock for something else.

The rose bush I want was sold out. I saw another place has the rose bush I want, but is grafted. Can I just buy the grafted rose bush that is available and get the cuttings to create an own rooted rose bush? Hope you understand my question.

I like roses with own root. For my experience there can be only one problem. If rose variation not tolerant for drought that can be problem. But If you lives at home you will water that rose. So I continue to plant and propagate roses with own root. And off course own rooted roses will live a lot longer then grafted. When I see some old tree it's look amazing, rose also.

For years I have looked to canes that did not have any thorns on them - they would be suckers. This year one of my roses shot out a couple long vigorous canes with plenty of thorns from the union (not below) but will not bloom. Do you know or are you aware of any root stock or ramblers that have thorns?

I have too mention that I lost many of the own root roses, I did not know why.

I’d like to grow my own roses from seed. Which reputable US website will provide variety of rose seeds?

Hello from London Jason.. i have a question Please.. i got liquid tomato feed for my roses .. i wonder if that will give them the boost they need to get going & stay healthy…as my childminder used to use tomato grow bags for her extremely healthy house plants.. i thought this feed might be ok for roses too.. thanks Jason

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Is there a list of roses that do/dont do well on their own root?

What kind of variety are those red roses

😅oh no. For my evil curiosity…I purchased two grafted and two own roots. 😅 good luck to me battles with suckers in the future. Thanks for the useful information!!!

Should scions be grafted onto hardwood?

I have 9 month old own root rose plant can I hard prune it in the first year

What about English roses do they grow well on their own roots

I was not clear on one point: can you take cuttings from a grafted rose, to create own- root roses? Does anyone have success with this?

Can we get own root rose with grafted rose cutting ...???

Understanding you have a lot of experience. If you don’t mind me giving some advice you need to rip it with pliers rather than cut the suckers. Rather than promote growth with pruning, twisting and ripping will for one create dieback or at least slow the process of promoting growth. You can also cap that rip with glue, white wash paste or some other form of healing to prevent disease and insects from entering.

Hi I want to know which rose plant i had beacuse it is dead few years ago... How can i share it to you?

Are all Hybrid Tea Roses grafted roses or are they own root roses also.???

Is this rose is real "Alakazam rose", if yes do you have one ???

Sounds very complicated! I have bought both own root and grafted roses. I think the grafted types did better.

So, the cheap roses they sell every spring at Walmart or farm stores are more likely to be grafted roses? I’m guilty of buying a couple. They’re the ones performing in this fashion. Hilarious actually. No worries. I now get my roses from an own root company now in Colorado. Have to say I was baffled until this video. Thank you Jason.

When you get a sucker, graft it and you get another rose bush

Please consider selling your roses online!

bury the graft under the soil