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I get that. I only use the core file sync/sharing platform which I think is excellent. I've given the office/collaboration stuff a go... I didn't have performance issues but it did feel disjointed and half-baked. It's a very ambitious undertaking to try and challenge Microsoft 365, but it felt like it's several years away from being something I could actually recommend to most people.

My frustrations with it have been mostly just getting it to work with other services in my homelab and what seems like incredibly boneheaded decisions by them to not include some features enabled by default in their Docker image. I pretty much have given up on them. It looks nice but I'm not going to rearrange my whole homelab setup just to get it to half work.

I've tried installing the docker version on casaos, ive managed to install it no problem, but im unable to get email working nor am i able to get rid of stupid errors regarding security and HTTP/HTTPS

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No sponsored jackets - it's just really cold in my garage where I record these videos!

Thanks! That or the docker image perhaps. There's also an official VM appliance if you want something largely preconfigured. I've just installed it manually and haven't found the maintenance too onerous. Their web updater is pretty good. Once in a while it sends a notification that it needs an update and I basically need to click "yes" on a webpage and let it to do its thing.

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Nice. How are you finding it? I've got it running on CentOS at home. I'll likely swap it over to CentOS Stream now that CentOS has been chucked out the window by Red Hat, but not sure I'd be keen to do that in a production capacity...

@@ProTechShow why not run it in a docker container and don't worry about the linux distro?

@@1MinuteFlipDoc In the case of CentOS/Stream it's less about compatibility and more about stability. If the host is less stable (somewhat speculative) containers won't get around it. For my instance at home, containers aren’t a good fit. A lot of what I'm currently running doesn't work in a container, and a large part of the reason for running stuff at home is experimentation so I actually don't want it all nicely bundled up for me. I chose CentOS because the most common distro I come across in production is RHEL, so it’s a way of keeping me familiar with it.

@@ProTechShow Have you thought about using RHEL instead of CentOS/Stream? RHEL is allowing up to 16 servers for free without a paid subscription.

@@brentmobley6968 I've actually just recorded a video about that. I still need to do the editing, but it should be online for 2nd June.

Thanks 🙂 It does seem like a lot of work, so it will be interesting to see if it turns out to be worth it. They mentioned speed as a benefit, so I guess the intention may be to move to compiled binaries and remove some overhead resulting from the PHP interpreter. Whether it produces a noticeable difference in the real world is another question!

It depends on your goals. You will learn a lot more by building an on-premises server than you will by setting up a cloud service because someone else is doing a lot of the work for you in the cloud. That said... a lot more companies are using the likes of Office 365 than they are ownCloud/Nextcloud so you might find knowledge of OneDrive to be more useful for actually getting a job in a typical business. CentOS is/was a great way to become familiar with the Red Hat world, which is one of the biggest enterprise distributions; but if you're planning to run it in production you should know its days are numbered in current form. I've got a video about that here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pct2a5V6r5u2ZWw.html

Anybody looking to learn would be well-advised to either learn to install to a virtual machine or possibly to install to an online service that provides similar features.That way pretty much no matter how badly you screw things up, you still have a working computer. And for the most part, when you're learning new software that's preferable for the same reason as most virtual machines have the ability to save snapshots along the way.

Nextcloud does the syncing. Veeam does the backups.

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Interesting use case. As long as the other devices can resolve the address of the local server that should work fine.

Yeah, I'm a web dev, so I can set it up pretty smooth. As long as they connect to my router, I can send them to the raspi. We currently use DropBox, but if they don't sync up before we play, they will be missing stuff.

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You can run other things on it as well provided you've got sufficient system resources. You will need to pay attention to what ports each application is using as they'll either need to be configured with different port/IP combinations (e.g. if they use different web servers) or use a reverse-proxy like NGINX to split the traffic.

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Cloud is just a name for marketing purposes. Cloud storage is anything not stored locally, I know I'm simplifying it waaaay too much. If you had a flash drive with a Tb of storage on it, you could use it as a cloud. You can use an SD card as cloud storage, just keep whatever you want on it, and when You're not using it, unmount it from your phone, but keep it in. Sounds kinda dumb, but that's what I do, and it costs me 0 dollars. And I put my sensitive stuff on it, and I don't remove it from the phone unless absolutely necessary. That's why they are trying to get rid of having external storage on phones. Because it takes away from the fact that someone can have this cloud thing themselves, for free, and secure. Because billion dollar companies have multiple backups of EVERY single bit of data you have on your devices. It's in the terms of service. If you wanna get mad, get the main privacy and terms for Google apps. And Google itself and see what they get from not only your children, but even your neighbors and if you have other children at your house. It's disgusting they do it. And it's all to make more millions on top of the millions they pay the executives.

May as well!

If you're planning to use it for office apps as well as file sharing, Nextcloud is better aligned to that than ownCloud. The biggest thing about hosting your own server is you are responsible for the security. Making sure you're using HTTPS, multifactor authentication, and you're installing every update for the operating system and the applications as they come out will take you a long way toward mitigating the risks.

I don't, although maybe I'll make a follow-up at some point... The brief overview is that I have client devices syncing important folders to/from Nextcloud. Nextcloud stores the data on a file server. Serviio scans selected media folders on the file server for its library (e.g. sync'd copies of the Windows Music/Pictures/Videos folders). The file server is backed up by Veeam. The speakers and TV autodetect and connect to Serviio using DLNA. If someone deletes a file it can often be recovered within Nextcloud. If not, I can restore it from Veeam to the server, and Nextcloud syncs it back down to the client.

I'd definitely also be interested in your setup! Sounds pretty amazing.. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

@@ProTechShow Thanks for this video. This was the video I was looking for. As Nick asked, I am also intrested on video guide on this. Not sure if you got enough time to make it. But If you can make it then it will be helpful for lot of people like me.

@@jazboy01 I probably won't do a detailed install guide, but I have it on my todo list to make one covering the sync & backup aspect in more detail.

@@ProTechShow thanks for reply and acknowledge. I am sure that video will be great too. I will be waiting for this to come.

Glad to hear it's working well for you

It's self-hosted so it's intended that you deploy your own private server. That's where the data primarily lives, and is typically synchronised with your various devices. Think OneDrive but using your own server instead of one owned by Microsoft.

The prices I listed in the table were per user, per year, assuming 100 users to make the published price brackets from each side comparable.

And that's assuming you don't run a 24h business yourself, and you're in the right time zone to get support at a reasonable hour. I could understand if 24/7 was only available on a more expensive tier, but not to have it at all and still call it "enterprise" support? Strange move, that one...

It's not a feature I use, but on my mobile app under settings you can select auto upload folders; which sounds like what you're after. Nextcloud should create the thumbnails automatically.

@@ProTechShow the media on nextcloud can only be seen either just inside next cloud app or their website not inside phone gallery

Ah OK, I misread and thought you wanted thumbnails in Nextcloud because you were syncing to it. If you're after a two-way sync I don't think the Nextcloud mobile app does that automatically. It does suppory WebDAV so you can use 3rd party sync apps. There was one called "FolderSync" I used to use on my Android phone for a two-way sync.

@@ProTechShow thanks bro let me try those and get back to you , much appreciated :)

@@ProTechShow i am having some connection issue with that app bro , i have messaged you on twitter if u have some time can u check that

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Nextcloud is a client-server setup and can't operate purely peer-to-peer. There is software available for this but I haven't used one in many years that I could recommended.

If you only need peer to peer file syncing, not storage, syncthing is a better solution.

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I'm not sure which way around you mean, so I'll try both. You can run Nextcloud on a QNAP NAS - I don't have a QNAP myself but I believe they support both virtual machines and containers, so either is an option. I suggest searching KZfaq for a video guide for your preferred method. You can also add your NAS to Nextcloud as storage. There are a few options to do this. You could use the "External storage" app in Nextcloud to add it as an SMB, SFTP, or WebDAV target; or you could mount it to a directory on your host and either add that using the external storage app or just put your Nextcloud data folder in that path to encapsulate the everything.

Nice. Did you use the app from their marketplace?

@@ProTechShow I manually deployed it on a ubuntu 20.04 server . Market place only had option for debian

It WAS the protocol for transferring files... about 20 years ago. Assuming you mean SFTP or FTPS and not the original insecure FTP, these serve different purposes. FTP and "S" variants are simply about moving a file from A to B. Nextcloud and ownCloud are Enterprise File Synchronisation and Sharing platforms. They have way more features and cannot be compared with a simple FTP server. They are more comparable to OneDrive or Dropbox. You can actually use an FTPS server as a target for Nextcloud to store data on, with Nextcloud providing the brains and FTPS providing the storage.

I've been using it for years and it is definitely free. It's both free as in beer and free as in speech. As a general rule: if you're interested in using open source software on servers, you should take the time to learn Linux. You'll tend to have an easier time finding information and fixing problems because most FOSS devs are using Linux themselves and a chunk of it simply hasn't been ported to Windows because there isn't as much interest to do so. If you really want to run Windows on the server, a workaround could be to download Nextcloud's AIO containerised version and run it using Docker. The container would still be using Linux internally, but that would be mostly abstracted from you.

@@ProTechShow they don't like the free version at all as they do a nice job buring any reference in the web page. What I'm looking is to replace the filezilla server I'm using now because while the server side is extremely simple, the client side requieres the instalation and config of a program, a thing not everybody gets so I am wishing for a web interface. Obviously changing the os is out of the question so I want to know if there's a windows app that glue this two extremely simple and old concepts: ftp-like and a web interface. Do you know some?

@@tektel None that simple that I could recommend off the top of my head. There will be tons of little web apps out there for uploading files, but you have to consider the security side of it quite carefully and some of the ones I've come across were pretty bad. If you want something that's easy for users and minimises effort for yourself you might want to consider a SaaS option like OneDrive/Dropbox. That way problems like MFA, patching, encryption, operating systems, instruction prevention, etc. aren't your problem.

At the time of this video, there was nothing visual to compare as they looked and behaved identically, other than their chosen colour schemes; so I focused on their differences in the video. I could have shown them both quickly to demonstrate their similarity for people who hadn't seen either, though. That's something I'll keep in mind for future videos.

Maybe this was recorded on a phone. Maybe I'm your new AI overlord. Who can say for sure?

These are both self-hosted. It's your computer.

Haha. It's larger than "small file support", obviously! 🤣 I have a difficult time trusting comparison charts from a vendor because they all cherry-pick the features to make themselves look the best. Useful to find limitations of other solutions, though. PS - The actual answer is that the file size is ultimately limited by the OS/filesystem/browser rather than Nextcloud itself.