Stop over paying and stop moving in hoa type mob organization to steal from you. Seriously crazy like everyone is going to the bathroom and dumping wads of hundreds once they finish.

Don't bother with Co-op, townhouse, etc. Just get your own house even if it is a small one.

Sounds like the people of the condo need to replace the management company. And if the board will not fire them, they need to elect one that will. People seem to forget that the HOA board is an elected government.

Yes. There must be a reasonable medium between zero safety buildings in Turkey and this.

It's the NYC banks.

Its not fraud unless someone paid already.

If only. A lot of political figures and politicians would be sitting behind bars. As they should.

It's only fraud if you rip off someone richer than you

You have the right to wish for whatever you want but that wish is delusional as that's not a possibility. We live in a world where the exact opposite happens- a fraudster lying con artist gets elected to the highest office to lead the people. I used to be like you but I saw the light. When you do you'll no longer wish for that but instead, you'll live your life according to that reality. Even the people you would least/never expect can and will betray you.

@@the2ndamendment went on bit of a tangent there, you ok?

No way.

This, I purchased a car from an SF dealer, he was ok as he was getting older, the car sold to me was sound mechanically but not so great electrically. Did a little digging found he was arrested for money laundering years ago

@@AP-eh6gr Try being sick in Miami. The medical grifters will gladly kill you for your cash. I could write a book.

. Yup.

And your life.

You got that right

Depends on the commission. A property managers job includes all of the duties of a general contractor and more. If you already have a property manager who hires subcontractors, schedules their work, coordinates with tenants, provides site access, monitors the work, ensures the quality, pays the invoices, etc. then why hire a general contractor to do the same thing instead of paying a commission? If the presumption is that people are corrupt then this applies equally to general contractors. I just had one contractor bid $3000 for windows cleaning I managed myself for $450 and power washing $1500 I managed myself for $350. I'd rather pay a 20% commision to a property manager to manage the work than deal with it myself. But the bids I get from general contractors are 400% commission lol. Also, I think a property manager should be rightfully pissed if they're getting cut out of an existing commission agreement.

As the cost of re-certification skyrockets, it appears that the only solution would be for owners to kick residents to the street and let the federal government subsidize illegal immigrants as the new occupants. A word of warning: watch out for empty beer cans falling down from the upper floors. 😂😂😂

@robertklein007 A lot of buildings the HOA are selling out to developers and the buildings are being demolished and replaced.

This is not a fact at all-- it was simple conjecture by clearly biased condo owners. There was absolutely no evidence presented for, nor did the news segment say, that was the condo board was going to use their sister company.

Management acts on the instruction from the President of the Board, Period. They do not have the power to hire vendors for the association

Exactly. I like my rural area, also no pants sagger crime, no army of overzealous, overfunded cops either. These people can live in their rat box in their urbanite scumzone away from me.

Exactly

@@meep2253 nothing of any importance happens in your stupid backyards. Your Google search history is another story.

I personally want a gold plated toilet, so I can smear my chocolate drops all over it

✊️✊️✊️✊️✊️YOU TELL THESE M'FERS JOSH.....

Because the owners don’t want to spend any money -and vote no on any type of improvements and by the time they finally got an inspection, it’s too late they do it to themselves my building has an on-site building manager who is on salary. The HOA members are voted to the board by the members. We vote on every penny that we spend, and we have mandatory three-year inspections. We got three or four prices for every trade, and review each bed carefully and present to the owners.

As it should be. Since the collapse, each HOA is required to be fully funded. It is what it is. Insurance doubled because whiny p.a.b. DeSantass was too busy going after Disney and drag queens, and got laughed out of the primaries because he's so uncomfortablein his own skin, he needed to hire a consultant to teach him how to smile. Maybe if he wasn't bitching all the time he could relearn how to smile. @@dan797

@@dan797- did you bother to watch the video? AKAM's engineer over-inflated prices and it's suspected that was because they wanted to contract the repairs to their sister company.

Like I said, none of the owners would vote for any improvements we vote on every penny spent I don’t care about this stupid videos. We’re being fucked now.

@@dan797 , so basically no. You didn't watch the video so have nothing useful to add to this siutation.

LOL “Many”?? That’s pretty funny!

@@robertherman1146 Actually it's not "many", it's "most".

There are! It's called not going into one!

@@francismarion4450 you want to be gouged without the government protecting you?

That's why anyone who buys a home in a place with a HOA deserves what they get. We already get trampled by the government, toxic workplace leadership, and then you want to come HOME and deal with MORE BS voluntarily? Most Americans do not even like their spouses either. Most toxic society on Earth.

True but the woman saying it would cause people to lose their home needs yo be forced to sell by the hoa and go live in the burbs on the money she has not the money she pretends to have

Yes, absolutely YES!

Yes THE WHOLE WORLD bumbed up scamming and sketchy business by 68% since the pandemic locked us up for a year. Now all of a sudden these unnecessary fees are coming out of nowhere

Yes because if not then what are the point of the fees?

But HOA's don't work that way. If these assessments were part of the monthly HOA dues, dues might be $1,000 per month higher. Condo owners don't want to do that. They want to live in a fantasyland where HOA fees are cheap, but then complain when the bill comes due for needed repairs.

Well. Then you people need to form your own company

Classic move 🥲. Excessive greed will destroy us

They all do that. This same kickback dynamic occurs in apartment buildings.

Have the HOA management company sign a fiduciary contract. On the flip side, my neighbors is an HOA ran by a HOA management company. The property manager had been assigned to the unit for 2 years, and not once in those 2 years had he even been on site. I think to this day, he hasn't done a walk around on the property.

@@encinobalboa how exactly does that work with apartments....what you are saying makes no sense.....with apartments the owner of the apartment building is also the "HOA" and they are the "Management Company" and of course they are the OWNER......so if they decide to use a company that they also own or they are affiliated with to do major repairs or renovations and to over charge (or under charge) for than it makes no difference to anyone else.....because the owner of the apartments is the one deciding what company to use and what bids to accept......with a condo building made up of individual owners and an HOA that takes care of repairs and renovations it does make a difference to the individual owners who gets the bid and if the bid is competitive or if there is double dealing and over charging

Yes!! Me as well. A nice one on the beach when the boomer Karens start dying off. Not getting a condo in Florida. Screw that...

For real…😂

If you buy any property with an HOA, review the financial statements . If it looks like they need to make an assessment, use it to negotiate the price.

I'm cool with my rural farmhouse. Thinking of getting a hunting cabin. You urbanites can live in your rat cage among the rats. Please stay there away from me.

Really do your research . On top all of their rules where you don’t feel like you own your property , they do .

It is limited even in better climates. Steel reinforced concrete of second half of 20-s century is not that durable, time has shown

First reasonable comment.

To be fair, it seemed like a good idea at the time.

Hindsight is 20/20 as they say. They probably didn't have the body of knowledge or the building codes at the time

You have Good Knowledge I assume

Nailed it.

Owners are the HOA. Wouldn’t they be suing themselves?

The tenants own their condo not the building it’s in which makes the building owners the HOA.

@@MegaSunshineyday depends, on if they hired a company to act as the hoa !or preform maintenance But its a good question ! Also insurance could be involved ! As usual the news has no idea how to ask pertinent questions!

@@MegaSunshineyday looks like max answered our questions ! Thanks max !

If your HOA fees are low or if your HOA doesn’t have a savings account for expenses like this it is best to move. HOA fees that residents pay over time should cover this instead of pushing such a large bill all at once. Low HOA fees for such a large building are a red flag.

Idk if you live in FL, but it’s rare for communities not to have an HOA or even a CDD as well.

Don't live in Florida then! Those HOA scammers are in all the nice areas and gated communities.

That is so true. My HOA chatting ove$ 10 and k another 1 year over $500 to pay immediately and less than 1 year and HOA increase. If y pau special assessment y are not credited for what y pay. It is very bad in Florida

i live in florida and you can find communities that doesn’t have hoa its not rare. in fact you can find communities that doesn’t have hoa in every state and there is a lot of them in every state.

@@victoriavs7470 I don't live there.

Hier scheint es in der Tat deutlich weniger bekloppt zuzugehen im Vrrgleich zu den Staaten 😮

Its the same here. The board members have to approve. The issue is why the structural repairs we not evaluated and done sooner and perhaps staggered so the costs could be staggered and more affordable and the contracts for work should always go out to bid to reputable firms with no middleman.

I would like a döner with cheese, no onions, herb and spicy sauce.. and an Augustiner please

@@magnumxlpi Disliked you for the Augustiner.

@@friedrichjunzt why? It's the best widely available beer in Germany

Excellent work by those members!

That is still too much money. If you can pay that, then why not just 'buy' a regular home, which you will have to pay for repairs and upkeep anyway, and you will own the bldg itself, not a piece of it, that will be at the whim of these crooks.

​@bernaclischurchill4463 some people do not want a house.

Way to go

No, the new rules require a fully funded reserve account. These owners have been getting away with partial or no reserve funding for years and now the law is forcing them to do the right thing. Also, you should have an inspection of not only the physical building but also association financials. If you don't pay attention before buying or deciding to continue to own then you end up like this.

you are assuming there was not money in that account. 46M / 175 is around 260. That building does not look like a 260 unit building.. Meaning there was money from somewhere else. Sounds more like they inflated the cost to hire their sister company to do the work@@bubbajones4522

I'm still confused by details here. The HOA itself isn't the property managers. There should be building residents on the HOA board. Those residents should be able to exercise the option to reject what the property managers are proposing and/or demand property managers present multiple quotes for work. Here in NY, I have never seen a property management contract such that it couldn't be vetoed. In fact many have walk away clauses where either side can quit their property manager with 60-90 day notice. Florida must be special.

@@bubbajones4522A fully funded reserve account is bot helping you if the management company commits a fraud, and wants to charge double price for the fixes…

The condo owners pick their management company. This story makes zero sense. They can vote to fire the current company and do it themselves or hire a new management company. The management company has zero power to do anything because the condo owners give them power that can be just as easily taken away.

Ouch!

AND SOMEHOW, just buying a house didnt make sense?? WOW.

@@comradewolf4901 they want to live high in the sky

What you really mean is be careful about buying into a neglected building. All those repairs are going to come up eventually one of your first hence will be the common charges are unusually low on an old building.

@@neilkurzman4907 Exactly, it requires looking and reading the HOA meeting reports which most people don't do. I bought into a brand new complex years ago and there were issues but not huge ones like $175,000 per. The condo only cost $180k at the time. Elevators, fancy brick, underground parking, etc. are red flags if you are going to retire.

Florida… the dumbest state?

Anyone else notice the algorithm tells me I have a reply but there’s nothing there. For a long time I’ve suspected my replies or just deleted or hidden-dead Internet theory

@@nickbeaucage4711 Can't see a reply, but yeah It happens with me as well

@@nickbeaucage4711 KZfaq been deleting replies for ages around here

@@nickbeaucage4711 Yes that’s been happening to me as well! Also if I have a notification I can click it and see a reply to a comment thread I’m on but when I go back to the entire comment thread I can’t see that comment anymore. Or I’ll see a comment thread that says 4 replies yet when I click on it only 2 will be there. It’s really weird how KZfaq operates anymore.

@@timtebowfan628 just because they can afford it doesn't mean they deserve to be conned.

@@timtebowfan628 their condos might only be worth $500k each. That’s 40% of the price they paid. They can’t afford that

Scam.😮

Haaaaa! I've always thought that too!

Based on that logic, no one should 'pretend' to buy a house.

@Frank G you’re buying airspace when you buy a condo, not actual land frankie boi

Should never pretend to..? Pretending how

@@megansands2861 It's a pun; a silly play on words; a joke - some folks get it, some don't.

Maybe just the shell. Each unit could be worth 2 million or more if currently remodeled.

A typical renovation is 10% of value every 10 years. If they haven't regularly improved the property then this is not surprising. I bought a 10 unit Class C building in Miami Beach for $2.5m. A full renovation will cost $1.25m or 50% of the purchase price because the previous landlords did not do any improvements. That comes out to $125k per unit a one-story building with concrete block foundation! Welcome to being a property owner: You have to constantly reinvest 40% of net income to maintain value.

@@nathanieltalcott8171 My brother's tenant was there for 5 years. My brother thought he was a good guy for not raising the rent but he did not keep up with the repairs either. Now, he is $500/mo under market and the tenant says he should reduce her rent because the house if falling apart. She left and he now has to spend $65,000 before the next renter can move in. You got to keep the monthly rent at market.

Lol regulations what are you a communist? People just need to vote with their wallets and fix the problem. Instead people are stupid and fall for deals too good to be true. They get what they deserve. Next time spend more time researching your home.

My sister did for 3 years, got high blood pressure, and all kinds of stress issues. She quit.

No way. 😮

You sound like a liar.

You can rent.

The fees aren't just the issue int his case. The property manger asked as sister company to make the repairs and therefore increase and share profits. The initial 46 Million repair bill seems pretty large to me too. But the 23 Millions bill is still huge but reasonable for building of that size and age.

@paxundpeace9970 I only manage my own properties so no conflict of interest. If I hire someone to powerewash it might be $350. If I hire a contractor to sub the same job it will be closer to $500. Why have a general contractor manage subcontracts if you're already paying a property manager to do this work? And by this work I mean hiring subs, scheduling them, coordinating with tenants, supervising the work, checking the quality, paying the invoices, and dealing with complications. If you're already paying a property manager to do these things then hiring an outside contractor to do the same work is dumb. I manage my own properties but I know other managers charge a commission on work done. You either pay the property manager or you pay the general contractor. I wouldn't assume one is better than the other; it is very situational. But noone manages construction projects for free.

Those areas near the ocean were never suitable for the construction of high rise buildings. The developers literally got away with murder getting permits to build these buildings. The natural motion of the ocean itself can easily undermine the foundations and cause all kinds of structural damage and in extreme cases as we have seen buildings can collapse with disastrous results.

They've been getting pummeled by hurricanes and ts for decades.

@@1575murray Didn’t the recent earthquake in Turkey demonstrate just that?

@@1575murray Imagine the many condos in south Florida that are well over 50 stories or the complexity of a car elevator in that Porsche Design Tower condo. Why does one need to park their car 40 floors up? The maintenance on those elevator systems will be expensive.

@@1575murray Salt air corrodes steel, water seepage corrodes rebar. Remodeling of high-rise condos eventually results in formica and linoleum being replaced by tons of granite that perhaps weren't factored into the original plans. Years of wear from sun and temperature expansion and wind damage from hurricanes take a toll. One hopes that the long-gone contractors didn't cut any corners on materials, that the now-dead or retired building inspectors were honest back in the 70's or 80's and that whoever drove the piledriver for the foundations got far enough through the sand and seashells to reach bedrock before saying "close enough."

A studio in Miami Beach starts at $225k and you still have HOA dues.

Where can you buy a house with $175k?

@@AmoebaCulture Methville, Ohio. Fentanylston, Indiana.

With the homes in Florida the Insurance is high as hell

@@AmoebaCulture Wood frames in the south.

All foreigners anyway so they are taking a home from a local....

Exactly

For money

yes so they can raise the price of the units when the older residents leave

Facts.

It truly is hell. The people are manipulative, lying, greedy garbage 💯

I’ve lived in 5 states over 42 years because of job relocations. I’ve met honest and dishonest people everywhere. I’m now in Florida. Good people and bad people. Just like every other state and all over the world.

@@Mexicobeanpole Here are some of the things which happened to me in the 8 years I lived in Florida. 1. The guys who owned the condo above mine were drug addicts with a rap sheet. One of them got elected to the condo board, then fired the lawyers and manager, and with another board member, hired their cronies instead. They dropped stuff at all hours of the night, waking me up just about every night. The cops sided with them and said they were "model citizens"! 2. An older guy at the LGBT center and his friends almost drove their car into mine. I had to brake hard to avoid hitting them. Then he got out and walked over laughing at me. 3. Another guy at the LGBT center shoved me into a door as I politely tried to exit around him. He wasn't even thrown out of the meeting for his violence. 4. A cop rear-ended my car. The cop who came out failed to assign fault, but the other guy's insurance quickly paid all of my bills so long as I didn't sue. Years later, looking through old papers, I Googled the guy who rear-ended me. He made the local news because he was a fake cop! 5. I was hit while walking by a car which made a right-hand turn from the left-lane directly behind another car to enter the CVS at the last second. Luckily I wasn't seriously injured. 5. Several of my "friends" including many older guys I was dating would trash me behind my back. I found out about it because I did computer work and sometimes saw the message they sent about me to other people. 6. A drunk guy at my friend's condo yelled at me for parking in the guest spot. When I started recording him with my phone, he physically attacked me trying to steal my phone away. He later told the cops that he was saving that only guest spot for one of his guests. 7. An older guy who just moved there yelled at me because I was calling the score when serving at doubles tennis. So I stopped calling the score to appease him. Then my longtime tennis partner started yelling at me because I wasn't calling the score. Then they both yelled at me at the same time for completely opposite reasons. 8. I got yelled at for about 10 minutes for kissing my boyfriend before he went back to Boston for the summer, by a homophobic employee at the LGBT center. The center's director stood by his homophobic employee. 9. I was crossing the street with the Walk signal. A minivan failed to yield and turned in front of me! I tapped their back window to alert them that they almost hit me. The cop who came out sided with the driver of the minivan, who falsely claimed that I was on drugs. The cop lectured me that if I had broken their window, I would have to pay them $600. No concern that they failed to yield and almost ran me over which likely would have seriously injured or killed me. Florida is renowned for being a crazy state, if not the craziest state. Do a search for "Florida man" to find out.

@@Mexicobeanpole Also, I have lived in 6 states and two countries over 53 years. Florida is by far the worst.

@@georgeh6856 i lived in 3 countries, 2 continents and 3 States, I’m very glad to be away from Florida, the worse place in so many ways.

Hey Henry Ford I loved his book the world's foremost problem

They shouldn’t pay a dime! What can they do besides have a lawsuit!

@LM Jo the signed up to live in a HOA. It's a contract not much else they can do unless the have a time machine. But this is why people buy into HOA so they know only other people like themselves will be able to afford to live near them and protect property value.

its a 40+ year old building on the edge of the water with decades of under budgeting for repairs and deferred maintenance like most of the buildings from that time period in florida. It probably needs to be mostly rebuilt. No surprise there. People just assume structures last forever. They don't. Especially if you aren't constantly taking every precaution to protect them, which MOST Hoas do not because it -is- expensive. Most people dont know what theyre getting into and dont understand what theyve bought.

@LM Jo , if one doesn't pay fees or assessments, the condo association can likely foreclose on the property and sell it leaving the former owner with nothing but bad credit.

I agree. You would of had to have ignored every single problem over the last 40 years to justify 23 million dollars in repairs,,, unless of course the problems are the result of original construction failures. I think they need to sue the heck out of this place.

The association is the homeowners. Ultimately They still need to come up with at least 15 million at least it seems. As is the property is worthless until it’s certified,

Not really true - you individually own the interior but you are part of the collective that owns the common spaces too.

No doubt. Imagine there's only one resident in the entire building, would that mean they need to pay the full $23 million? This doesn't make any sense.

The owners are the association! It's mind boggling that people don't understand there isn't some magical, mystical pot of money that can appear out of thin air.

What about hundreds of housing subdivisions with HOAs. Beverly Hills has HOAs, as does homes in Detroit. Research before you buy.

So rob them back. If caught claim you are a crackhead and the law will let u go. This is the perfect loophole

Like a governor? You get what you vote for🤷

Perhaps if the Governor of Florida would spend less time on his anti-Woke policies and focus on the real problems that Floridans face, things would be better. You get what you vote for.

It's all of FL. Property management companies energy and Sugar monopoly are some of the biggest Republican donors.

Unfortunately, a lot of property has been mismanaged, with lots of deferred maintenance. My condo bylaws stipulate that 5 percent of the sale price of each unit gets claimed by the building. It keeps our monthly fees low and our prudent reserve flush with cash. It also discourages property flipping. We recently did our facade and balconies refurbished and our assessment is only 110 dollars a monthly for 4 years. We also have money set aside to replace both elevator controllers. Most of our condo board members have backgrounds in finance. If you are buying a condo and see any deferred maintenance in the common areas, don't buy. It's a huge red flag. The building I live in was built in the late 60s. Everything looks pristine. Hallway carpeting is replaced on a rotating schedule. I've been here for 9 years. It has been a good experience, quite different from the horror stories you hear.

It is very annoying to see owners, especially investors, whose sole aim is to minimise spending of money, even if it is best in the long term to spend the money.

You are spot on, but i don’t think it’s all stupid people. There’s a lot of desperation and bad understanding of the costs/expectations of managing buildings

@@Ken-er9cq it’s systemic, most people on live somewhere a handful of years. So they want to avoid anything long term. It’s selfish and wrong but that’s how it’s done

Spot on! Happens at condo complexes everywhere.

We also do the same thing with our local, state, and federal governments. Higher irresponsible people who are going to pass the buck. Or put the buck in their pocket.

Need to do research before you buy is all! If you can afford to own and or rent the condo; condo ownership can be very profitable If managed properly!

@@La-familia-de-Fazio HOA

that's the illusion lol. you don't actually OWN anything. they can take it from you, ANY TIME. it's all a scam. most homeless people HAD a home, a family, a future so bright. Until they encountered SOCIETY.

Slaw brained, lol.

For me, owning a butth0le is a scam, because many people are full of sh!t.

You don't love never ending fees? KAREN!!!!

Homes are moneypits regardless if they are condos or SFH.

The fees are there for a reason. You haven’t seen a condo collapse in Miami? Because of shady construction and owners were stalling repairs for a decade. Truth is if you are not willing to deal with repairs you can’t afford to own anything. In collapsed condo repairs were also worth 200 k each owner but people stalled, the more you stall the more damage there is ,the more expensive repairs become

beats having the building fall over like that other condo in Florida

80k each to repair forty years of neglect really isn’t terrible; that’s 2k per year which is pretty much the cost of maintenance on a home.

@@jayd1687a yea but nobody lived or owned that place for 40 years. What about someone who may have just bought it?

@@efonwang that's why you ask pertinent questions when buying a condo in Florida. Get the HOA financial statements, how much is in the reserves, are there any special assessments, get the minutes of last HOA meeting, talk to current residents.

How could you possibly determine if that is too high or not? Are you a structural engineer that assesded this building?

And how did it even pass inspection from the get go 😂😂

The numbers make no sense , I would think a million max like what are those repairs cause at 46 million even 23 million you could just build a new building almost

@@charljrhode2 You don't have no idea what these buildings need.

With all these, what's the point owning a condo?

Whoever put that 50 up tryna get they money back 😂⏰

Yup, those high HOA fees make them unattractive

It's not the same. You can just leave an apartment if the rent is too high. You are the owner of the condo, so you would have to put it on the market and hope to find a buyer at a profitable cost.

a stand alone house better, more private

Pink Parasol Lise- Let me know where I can get a roof for $3,000.00

@@armchaireconomist8648 I would say read that comment slower. New roof versus a simple repair, yes i could picture the difference in amount. Imagine replacing an area of shingles for example from tree damage on part of the roof for less where maybe an HOA would say they prefer a whole new roof for what ever reason.

@@2wheel_freedom so years later a realeatate friend examined each of the 48 townhomes and determined that these roofs could have been repaired for $3,000.00 each instead of being replaced for $18,000.00 each. The realestate agent is either a genius or a liar.

So are you saying some KB action? As in Kick Back...

Repairing a roof for $3k is much different than a new roof for $18k. A $3k repair may need to be done again next year, then again and again. A roof that is 30 years old may need new underlayment, all new tiles, etc then it is good for another 30+ years. Repairs are just putting off the inevitable for an old roof.

it was built by Latin Americans

@@billydakid9814 🤣🤣🤣

It was the Colombians laundering the coca money through the 70s into the 80s

@@billydakid9814 thats what happens when you pay them $4 like tru mp when he hired undocumented immigrants

That’s a building defect, you shouldn’t talk about things you don’t know anything about. I live a few miles from that building

I was thinking the same thing. At that price, just tear the whole thing down and start over. What the heck?

There's a dozen ways to transfer a large amount to a crooked commie country.

Lmao ran to Cuba with that money? You have no idea

@Rich Casino they could pay a boat to take em to cuba and im sure they are still connected there .. they are loyal to them and are like spies

What's attempted theft, how would you define that

So what you’re saying is they should allow the building to collapse, then collect the insurance and sell the property? It’s people exactly like you that caused the building to collapse in Miami.

@@Unpopularity Tenants? no the condo owners decided that instead of running the building themselves, they would hire a management company. they are not tenants. Extort? The status extorting them. They told them if they don’t inpect their building, and correct, the faults, they’re going to lose their certificate of occupancy. The building needs millions of dollars in repairs. The question is how many millions. If they don’t like the management company, they can hire a different one. Or they can manage the renovations themselves. Capitalism? They are free to get as many quarts is they want. And they want to pay for. If they want shoddy, barely passing work, that’s their choice. Basically, they hired a contractor to do the repairs. And don’t like the price. I don’t see how that’s extortion. I’m not sure where the defending themselves from. They own the building.

Some peeps are into that kind of thing.

Why anyone wants to manage their own properties is beyond me. I own and manage an apartment building in Miami Beach. And I live in a rental. I bet you do your own lawn care and painting too! Because someone doesn't understand basic economics. Why would a software engineer making $150 an hour not pay a property manager $25 an hour to do the job faster and better?

@@nathanieltalcott8171 I apologize for the confusion when I said property I meant ones residence. Meaning putting the welfare of my home in the hands of others leads to this kind of situation.

Unfortunately we have become a soft society always looking for convenience and easy.

Be on the board yourself... you can run for seats too