Owners of Crooked House ordered to rebuild West Midlands pub destroyed by fire

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The owners of the Crooked House have been ordered to rebuild the pub “back to what it was” prior to the suspected arson attack which destroyed it last year.
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@sarahemerson6567 5 ай бұрын

A council with balls Rarely praise but credit deserved

@nimmichagger165 5 ай бұрын

The owners obviously torched it themselves.

@oilylampman7252 5 ай бұрын

People must learn, that you need permission to destroy and to build.

@user-jq5yb8rj1d 5 ай бұрын

What do they need permission for? Don't blame People , Please blame government policies

@user-jq5yb8rj1d 5 ай бұрын

Government is worried that they are not going to get business rates, they are losing it so the are insisting and bullying as white collar robbers to rebuild it

@joshfensome 5 ай бұрын

@@user-jq5yb8rj1d they need permission because thats how its set up you div

@davekeith576 5 ай бұрын

A meeting place of many cultural views . Rebuild it.

@openorwap5412 5 ай бұрын

Wow. Staffordshire Council taking no nonsense. Fix your mess - I like it 👌🏽

@brianingarfill1773 5 ай бұрын

Wonderful news. Everyone has to abide by the rules of building codes!!! Ask Capt. Tom's daughter!!!

@petermichiels8333 5 ай бұрын

Hi Brian. Building codes are very subjective when it suits. There is so much corruption with local authorities, especially when there are brown envelopes are passed around as I know from many years of experience and the ordinary person in the street knows nothing about. The corruption which is all coming out about the Post Office, then we also have Royal Mail and the corrupt county court system which we have in Durham City who are accountable to no one

@wesleymcglone6937 5 ай бұрын

Amazing how many times buildings a company wants destroying get hit by fire. Why are arsonists targeting derelict buildings that companies are struggling to get permission to rip down.

@HilaryB. 5 ай бұрын

I live in the Midlands, not that far from this pub. Several years ago, four old Victorian factory buildings 'burnt down ' within the space of a year. One of them is an Asda now. Nothing wrong with them, they would have made lovely flats. It's criminal and no one ever gets charged, too many back-handers!

@wesleymcglone6937 5 ай бұрын

@@HilaryB. Same where I live. A school was shut down. One of the buildings was not allowed to be knocked down because some rare bats was found living in it. Arsonists struck a week later, then it had to be pulled down because it became a hazard.

@HilaryB. 5 ай бұрын

@@wesleymcglone6937 Shame, it's amazing how these things can suddenly disappear for a few quid! When did people become so greedy and corrupt?

@yvonneleonard7665 5 ай бұрын

Brilliant news for a change!!!! They should have been prosecuted for knocking it down!!!

@MarkRaybould-mo2tl 5 ай бұрын

people from the area always used the pub. It may not have been the local but it was used and loved. As a lower Gornal man I should know, we would always take visters from outside the area to see this wonderful pub, we all miss the place

@markdowning2210 5 ай бұрын

About time the new owners are held accountable for what has happened to the historic pub. Good on the council for standing up to these people

@mattdoliver1984 5 ай бұрын

I know some Brickylayers that struggle to put a wall up level...get intouch I can put you on 😂😂

@che4568 5 ай бұрын

Dont call me 😂😂

@mattdoliver1984 4 ай бұрын

@@che4568 Damn, was just about to call aswell 🤣🤣🤣👍🏻

@neogirl37 5 ай бұрын

Cannot understand why it wasn't a listed building in the first place... Who's fault is that? 👀. It is famous, I'm from about 30 miles away & we used to go visit it & show people around

@tooyoungtobeold8756 5 ай бұрын

It was listing, I guess you meant listed.

@Duncan_1971 5 ай бұрын

@@tooyoungtobeold8756 No need to be pedantic. What do you get from that? Everybody else understands.

@Whateverpoopiepants 5 ай бұрын

This whole thing stinks or insurance fraud. Why knock it down so quickly after it burned, hiding evidence much ? This has got to be an inside deal, the owners look like right scumbags.

@mattdoliver1984 5 ай бұрын

I thought the same, I used to go in there alot in my early 20s, how on earth are they gonna rebuild it to exactly how it was

@Adam-vp1cl 5 ай бұрын

Probably wanted to build a mosque

@henry9406 5 ай бұрын

I think the land is worth a lot more than the insurance claim

@mcfrosty8739 5 ай бұрын

it's happened a lot lately unfortunately

@mattdoliver1984 5 ай бұрын

@@Adam-vp1cl Wouldn't surprise me 😂

@tp9888 5 ай бұрын

The council forgot to list it😂😂😂.

@janwhite6038 5 ай бұрын

Good this was a unique family pub. Lots of memories and tales attached to the Crooked House

@harryjones5260 5 ай бұрын

crooked owners for a crooked house. how fitting

@enochpowel3030 5 ай бұрын

I've never been there but I wish I had ,It looked like a great old pub.

@neogirl37 5 ай бұрын

Fantastic news & good for the council.. Makes a change that they made the right decision, & for the right reasons. Sick of these monied developers just tearing stuff down. Thus is a win 😊😊😊

@ChrisAndCats 5 ай бұрын

It's never going to happen, though, is it? You'd never get that lean again or it look the same. Do they even have the funds to do it?

@neogirl37 5 ай бұрын

@@ChrisAndCatswell if they don't they should be charged into oblivion!! Definitely not right at all to do that

5 ай бұрын

I'm sure the owners won't understand what this means.

@petergodfrey3439 5 ай бұрын

As far has I know, there were only two of these in Birmingham UK, which is a very large City. My Father and I, had both of them. What a wonderful restoration, very well done. Thank You for video.

@adeaston6553 5 ай бұрын

Rebuilding crooked house to it's original crooked state would break all building regulations. Subsidence, wonky walls, sloping floors, buttresses supporting outer walls. That should be an interesting job for planning regulators!

@dalebenton3354 5 ай бұрын

Like I said enough in comments,I used to work on building sites,Looking at the foundations and whats left of the building don't look safe to build on,You have knock the rest down,Turn the ground over and over again till it comes up as fresh soil,Then you will have to leave the ground to set for at least 6 months,Then have to start from scratch,Not something can be done in 5 mins,If I was the owner,I would make the people pay for it when they had no promission what so ever to knock it down in the first place

@sinewavedream 5 ай бұрын

Rebuild a pub that should have been condemned? It's not the leaning tower of Pisa!

@tooyoungtobeold8756 5 ай бұрын

I bet there will be an appeal, some brown envelopes floating around and it won't get rebuilt.

@SAHBfan 4 ай бұрын

There isa piece of the puzzle that is missing from nearly all of the news articles on the crooked house. Someone broke into the pub and vandalised it, before Marsden’s sold it. The story was in The Express and Star - you can find it in their archive. They allegedly did £10 000 pounds worth of damage, which prevented it from reopening. I have no idea who was responsible - but when some people say (as so many do) that”‘If more people had used it, then it wouldn’t have closed” - well, it wasn’t quite that simple. Marsden’s are in serious financial trouble, so selling was an easier option than £10k of repairs.

@bertiewooster3326 5 ай бұрын

Ordered maybe but owners just go bankrupt and thats it, as for prosecution best of luck with that also.

@Spitfiresammons 5 ай бұрын

That’s great now the challenge of rebuild the Crooked house begins.

@Soulboy63 5 ай бұрын

Will cost new owners dear , they though they were above the law ..They will probably just go bust .

@carpenter284 5 ай бұрын

It's easily rebuilt .. just get Bellway homes to do it as all their new builds are modelled on this very building

@tonywatson1412 5 ай бұрын

I wouldn't hold my breathe

@wayneabel5421 5 ай бұрын

❤️🤍💙🇬🇧wonderful news, but what are the penalties if corrected ?

@gutsngorrrr 4 ай бұрын

They say its going to be really difficult to reconstruct the house to look the same, but i say just get the likes of Taylor Wimpy on the job, because going by some of the new builds going on around us, it shouldn't be a problem😂

@keithrock939 5 ай бұрын

Been in that pub and it was strange feelings. They should be forced to rebuild

@Duncan_1971 5 ай бұрын

I can't watch the pictures I have to look away. I was physically sick when the story broke. Me and my friends spent many happy summer evenings at that place. It was so wonderfully historic. A lot of people don't manage to chain a few brain cells together before they post. It wasn't built that way it's due to mining subsidence and it had a few giant metal pins running through it an a couple of buttresses to prevent it from collapse. Switch your brain on before you post.

@Tony-yp7ok 5 ай бұрын

I don’t see how they can build it back as it was without breaching current building regs?

@dougaltolan3017 5 ай бұрын

This is the find out part. Should have thought of that before property developer greed promoted them to destroy part of the community.

@Tony-yp7ok 5 ай бұрын

@@pabrennan6877 I don’t see how as many aspects of the design and things such as materials, structural methods, energy efficiencies etc wouldn’t pass the current standards for a new build property. They’d have to build some kind of looky-likey but I really doubt they can build it back as it was. Good luck to the architect having to design a wonky building!

@Alf-Garnish 5 ай бұрын

Builders will need adjustable spirit levels to re-create what was destroyed

@user-jq5yb8rj1d 5 ай бұрын

Your tales, your memories doesn't give living hood for pub owners, because of the government policies, how can you blame them.

@neilfoster814 5 ай бұрын

Hahahaha, somebody thought they were going to make a quick buck out of this place. WRONG!

@damon1957ful 5 ай бұрын

Well done it must be done , very suspicious

@johntaylor3940 5 ай бұрын

YES AND THEY ARE NOT GOING TO OBEY , NO INSURANCE SHOULD HAVE BEEN PAID OUT

@Craig-wp3pz 5 ай бұрын

Jeez, if you thought it was badly built before, wait till its finished 'By court order'.... God its gonna be rough 😅😊😊😅

@brendanstoran7555 5 ай бұрын

And make sure there’s not a spirit level in sight! We want it built crooked!

@ianmilleris 5 ай бұрын

Strong message in 2024 🇬🇧 First Captain Tom’s Spa Now The Crooked Pub Yes people, that’s what 🇬🇧planning permission is about

@davidbenjamin5356 5 ай бұрын

They should be fined for destroying it as well.

@zachariasbennett5105 5 ай бұрын

Sadly they can rebuild the pub but it will never be the same pub,the spirit of the 18th century pub and its history had been destroyed and is sadly gone and you can never bring it back to how it was but it should have been protected with it been a listed building long ago.

@jayquinn3701 5 ай бұрын

So they should!.....

@stephenB-yq9kw 5 ай бұрын

My friend Britney going to rebuild it back

@che4568 5 ай бұрын

Dont call me for that job 😲

@Blaze-jp5fi 5 ай бұрын

Don't destroy the native heritage ❤

@davekeith576 5 ай бұрын

Yes too much of that sort of stuff going on.. rebuild it .

@ChrisAndCats 5 ай бұрын

Regardless, I cabt see it actually happening. How would you duplicate the angles again, have it look the same? Do they even have the funds, ability abd skill to do it?

@philpants44 5 ай бұрын

That's their problem.

@Tony-yp7ok 5 ай бұрын

I don’t think it’ll happen. If they build it back exactly as it was, there is no way it would meet the current building regs for new builds, so not sure how they get round that?

@tollbar5468 5 ай бұрын

What are the owners going to use for money to rebuild this pub? I'll bet you a pound to a dollar that they haven't got a pot to piss in and that's why they pulled it down - fraud.

@petefrys545 5 ай бұрын

Their not going to rebuild they knew they wrong, probaly ddclare tbemselves bankrupt and svkid litigation. Should be jailed

5 ай бұрын

(Jail) Let's hope so that would be the icing on the cake... their lack of intelligence led them to this in the first place.

@thetruth156real3 5 ай бұрын

That’s what this Country needs, more badly built pubs. Sod the Hospitals and infrastructure, this is what it takes to get people out angry and ready to take on the Authorities. I’m proud to be British.😂🙈

@JimRennix74 5 ай бұрын

And rightly so. Letting homeless wi no regard for that property saying they looked after it but looking at them the dog they had was more like a cat big teeth how can a historic building be left to these folk that have no respect responsibility or any to offer except to be left to be ruined by the likes. Why not stop anything the have and there was enough of them be maid to pay for the damage

@honeymonster7031 5 ай бұрын

🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

@mypointofview1111 5 ай бұрын

It's easy enough to order someone to do something but if the pub owners haven't got the funds to do this they're stumped and the council can stamp its feet as much as it likes but the building won't get built. TBH as so many pubs are closing is it worthwhile rebuilding this just so's it can be closed down as soon as it starts trading again because of so few customers?

@tonyfincham6126 5 ай бұрын

According to records they have plenty of money & if short should be made to sell any other property they own to pay .

@HilaryB. 5 ай бұрын

It was an historic pub though, I don't live that far away, it's been a while since I went, but I believe it has plenty of custom still. It actually was crooked, you could roll a ping pong ball up a window ledge that looked as if it was sloping down! That's why it was so unique.

@johncollins3391 5 ай бұрын

I'll believe it when i see it and i dont think it will happen.

@ChrisAndCats 5 ай бұрын

I don't either. How do you replicate the lean it had, get it to look the same? Do they even have the money? Putting it back as was would cost way more than just building something from scratch as you're trying to copy something thats no longer there.

@Mr57blackbeauty 5 ай бұрын

It's been done before

@zbigniewczaykowski514 5 ай бұрын

@SB-dg8hq Yeah ,no decent builder would touch that job with a barge pole. I worked in building for 39 years before retiring and wouldn't go anywhere near it for any amount of money, they'll be making a documentary out of it and have camera crews on site every day for starters. And if you did manage to get it built no building inspector worth his salt would pass it and would condemn it and order it to be pulled down.

@CL-un9gg 5 ай бұрын

That will require Turkish builders!

@neilcooper9508 4 ай бұрын

That place was never ennthink special in the first place no history attached to it wot so ever folks use to go there to bloody roll a 2 penc coin on the counter i bet you coud do that on enny counter of a pub that old i bet if you asked enny of the staff the history of that pub i bet thay woodent hav a clue

@hakimvlogs6579 5 ай бұрын

How can the council have the power to do this

@markjohn4802 5 ай бұрын

They should build as was or face catastrophic confiscation of assets to pay for somebody to do it for them, the laws made by our parliament have a purpose.

@mypointofview1111 5 ай бұрын

To protect the rich & influential from the rest of us, not the other way round

@markjohn4802 5 ай бұрын

Yeah!! What do you know? Sounds like pub talk! @@mypointofview1111

@zbigniewczaykowski514 5 ай бұрын

They'll just use the law (made by parliament) of being declared bankrupt and not being liable for any current debts, after they've hidden and moved abroad all they have.

@NealePinkney-td2cn 5 ай бұрын

There gonna have trouble building that as it was ,on the piss ,brick work windows and doors , ha ha

@RcNerd 5 ай бұрын

Another curry house

@Fartnite99 5 ай бұрын

Skill issue

@user-xr1xx 5 ай бұрын

what a bullshit. its not a listed building. its just some tourist atraction to be because someone couldnt build it properly some time ago.

5 ай бұрын

You useless moron.... you obviously don't know the history before commenting.

@Duncan_1971 5 ай бұрын

You don't know anything. Good luck with that loser.

@Lynsky24 5 ай бұрын

Crooked Council

@Duncan_1971 5 ай бұрын

Certainly not. Crooked Directors who owned it.

@petermichiels8333 5 ай бұрын

I’m staggered to understand why this pub should be re-built. The same ones who complain about it closing didn’t use it hence the reason for closure. Pubs are closing every day because they are losing a fortune but you end up with some lefties trying to make a name for themselves to feel important and never achieved anything in their lives 😳

@Statueshop297 5 ай бұрын

It’s not about it being a pub, it’s about destroying a structure through arson and then bulldozing it without permission. It could of been redeveloped. The owners could of sold it. Instead from memory they wanted to sell the plot for houses or something like that so broke the law.

@adriancoppin977 5 ай бұрын

I think the difference is that this pub has a loooong heritage and it must be preserved. I was fortunate to be able to visit it once back in 1989, when I worked for Morrison Shand in Dibdale Road in Dudley.

@petermichiels8333 5 ай бұрын

If that pub was so important it should have been a listed building. No one wanted to drink there which was the reason it closed, no one wanted to purchase it because it was dilapidated and falling down. A developer saw the opportunity and decided to make better use of the site

@petermichiels8333 5 ай бұрын

If it’s rebuilt then what ? Just some busy bodies who have achieved nothing in their lives trying to feel important by seeing themselves on the TV and newspapers. The building was not listed and it’s only a bunch of left wing councillors trying to make an example for their own needs

@incandescentwithrage 5 ай бұрын

@@petermichiels8333You could say that about any building in the UK. "I could make better use of it so I just bulldozed it". Planning regulations are part of civilised society. I'm glad they have to put it back.

@tarunarya1780 5 ай бұрын

Why? This is a nonsense story. Everyone has nostalgia but the reason the pub was sold was because people weren't going. Its the same as people complaining about having local shops in villages that they like to have around but don't help financially support. It shouldn't be rebuilt. Pubs etc are closing left right and centre.

@repairworld2367 5 ай бұрын

How do you know? Do you live near there? Do you know the background to the fire and demolition. Do you know the people who brought the land and what they had done in the past? Do your homework first. It was a very busy pub, just like the other one in Warwickshire that the same people destroyed.

@shuddupeyaface 5 ай бұрын

They pave paradise and put up a parting lot ❤

@UKMatt85 5 ай бұрын

@@shuddupeyafaceHas to be rebuilt as it was.

@Duncan_1971 5 ай бұрын

It was a key part of the history of one of the greatest regions on planet earth. The centre of industry for the entire world at one point. People have been going there for years but you have to drive to get there so it's a steady trickle of people rather than a huge gang of locals. Read about the Black Country and it's history and don't be so damn impertinent.

@Ashley-dy7bx 5 ай бұрын

It's nothing like the shop analogy you made. Those shops shut because noone supports them. This pub was illegally destroyed without permission. They must put it back to the way it was.