Just use the one where you pump cold polluted water all throughout your base in pipes :)

@@dodolulupepe But how do you get cold polluted water? And how do you keep it cold? All the polluted water near me is too hot.

@@deemo665 I think you put storage bins full of ice in it

@@dodolulupepe so youre not sure either? but youre promoting it...

thats why i give up every time i try this game again. All is just too complicated and game doesnt explain things well and not everyone is nerdy enough to spend hours analysing and trying things. This vid is not the best for beginners either. I mean I have few dupes and definitely dont want them to run far away for ice to cool water, then game doesn give easy options to cool water as using aquatuner fries everything around in couple minutes so I need this fancy cooling for aquatuner now and its just overwhelming sometimes (I dont really know from this vid how to cool aquatuner - using the same wate it just cooled? I don't have cool polluted water and don't want to use steam turbines and this complicated setup yet as its quite early in the game :/

Hahahahaha, maybe a sub goal? :D I also have/had a mod that shows all temperature formats, but I get this comment all the time and it makes me laugh.

yeah it really kept messing me up. like why tf is that so high... lol

Switch to kelvin so everyone is equally lost

@@conejocapuchino2928 Hahahahahaha, oh man, I should.

@@Magnet_MD no way they actually answered my comment Dude i am your fan ,i just started seeing your vids this day but you are awesome and i am sure staying in this channel for a loooong time

That's the closest way of "deleting" the heat in reality lol

Hahahaha, it's some made up, fairy-tale land temperature system.

So true. Just talking a bunch of numbers that makes no sense to me hahah

If your radiator is on, and you throw it out your window, the system of your house is going to see a decrease in heat. The literal deletion is kinda cheap sure, but considering this game has, space, into which you can dump things to float away from your, not enough gravity to keep them close, asteroid. I imagine removing heat from your closed system was well intended as an option, one way or anouther

Yeah, realistic, like you can truly "delete" anything in the universe

ive seen how well the nullifier worked in other videos, freezing parts of co2 in the biome into solids. why would he use hydrogen as the coolant for his nullifier here????? he said himself that liquids are better for coolant... he is just not pumping enough cooled hydrogen mass into his turbines is what i think is happening. thats why youre supposed to use liquids...

@@alamrasyidi4097 I think the community sentiment against AETN is that (1) it's not guaranteed (or at least used to), (2) it's non-ideal for more experienced players and builds, and (3) I found AETN to be practically skippable after I learned how to build straight for steel + plastic + steam turbine for the industrial cooling loop. It's definitely the newbie's best friend to cooling though, until they master the art of steam turbine + PO2 cooling loop, which is the natural next step of cooling.

@@glennl9378 well, it _is_ an exclusive building. but early game-wise, its most definitely op and probably there to be beginner friendly, most likely. itll fall short when you have more facilities you can build for cooling where you can easily scale up. thats still not the reason he said its bad in the video... his setup is simply scuffed. he said to himself that its a trap, making you think that the fact it runs on one of the best gas for heat transfer would make it simpler to just run the same gas as coolant. _but gases are terrible coolant to begin with._ thats why you just stick to liquid coolants...

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but why would you

@@magica3526 because I am silly American who still does not get Celsius temps and was making all kinds of mistakes thinking thing were cooler than they were

Hahahaha, same!

Thanks! I need to put out more content first, haha.

No problem! Hopefully it helps out :)

same haha

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I'm not, but if a class for ONI ever exists, maybe I'll teach it!

Maybe. But not 95% of players.

Great feedback, I'll start making some "builds" videos to give very specific detail on how to make some of the more complicated, yet regimented builds in the game. As for the answers to your questions: - The automation at the top is to allow water flow whenever the top room gets too hot (those pipes are connected to a pool of cold liquid). I usually set the thermo sensor that allows flow to somewhere around 80F or 27C (if room temp is above that, turn the Liquid Shutoff ON so new water can flow into the pipes in the room). The bridges that are connected to those pipes are so you can run pipes all the way through the room that are used to cool it, and you need to run that pipe system over the top of pipes that come out of the steam turbines (which suck up steam and put out hot water). - The steam comes from water that is placed in the same chamber as the aquatuners. The amount of water is not all that significant because the Steam turbines will eventually regulate it and keep the temperature under control. I like to put a little more liquid in there so the heating/cooling is slower and the setup is generally more stable. A rough estimate of what I'll usually put in there is like 800KG of water in a single row of tiles on top of the aquatuners. Those aquatuners will eventually boil the water.

Thank you. Very helpful. Save files would really help too.

It only took an entire colony to starve to death because the plants overheated for me to realize that cooling is important.

@@glados5065 Me was when i started using some heavy machines to produce oxigen or materials , my duplicants started to be cooked slowly xD

@@TheLastGhostLegendario Rip

it us useful. you aren't supposed to pump out the cool hydrogen like he does it on the video. you can run Oxygen/water pipes near the AETN, it cools down everything around it

Awesome, and welcome!

Good idea, I'll give this another try and see if it's worthwhile. The only reason I didn't like it was having to spend hydrogen (effectively spending energy), plus the energy to circulate whatever you needed cooled, and the distance you sometimes need to cover to use it effectively.

@@Magnet_MD True enough if your goal is to solely achieve a hermetical close system. In most of my games, the SPOM provides the hydrogen and it is being burnt anyway, might as well use it as a cooling solution.

salved with multiple transformers

@@artemkeller2571 Yep, just use bigger wires and keep an eye on their capacity!

In practice there shouldn't be any difference. Keep in mind cooling liquids is harder with Thermo-Nullifier because of their higher specific heat capacity. Thermo-Nullifier might not be able to keep up.

@@noanxx1 , I appreciate the comment. I have played and know so much more. I now know that thermonullifiers don't even work while submerged. So it's always more whorthwhile running an upgraded hydrogen generator to power a liquid cooler, whose heat can then also run a steam turbine, to cool your base. The learning curve in this game is insane!

Yeah, pretty much. There are some hacky things that don't quite operate that way, but for the most part that's how it works.

Great points!

I mentioned the AETN a bit, but the power required to keep it running (spending hydrogen and powering gas pumps) is much more expensive than wheezeworts or just cooling water by comparison.

Though, I guess you could just build around the AETN and not pump the cold hydrogen around, but still, meh, not the greatest.

@@Magnet_MD I meant more keep it in hydrogen and feed it hydrogen, but pass some radiant pipes through it so that the liquid that pass through get cooled down. Though the AETN don't need to be in hydrogen, because unlike wheezeworts and aquatuners, which reduce by a set temperature, and so is more affected by the type of gas (Cooling hydrogen 5C delete more energy then cooling CO2 by the same amount). Meanwhile the AETN delete DTUs, so the amount of cooling will be the same no matter what the gas around it is.

@@R4d6 Yeah, it's just so inefficient by comparison. I dunno, I'll make it a point to play around with more ideas the next time I see one, but I just haven't found it to be very useful compared to other solutions.

Robo-Miners automatically mine whatever natural tile is in their range, as long as they are hardness level 1.

I'll make sure to do a better job of visualizing stuff in future tutorials :)

on another note anyone know why in dev mode my auto miners always mine my mesh tiles not the airflow ones though, i was doing a regolith control thing cause i was using it for air filter and water filter. but only when i place with dev mode active. if its off and i use sandbox no problem but turn dev mode on with or without sandbox on can't place mesh. (and I've played with the metals, all metals get mined even the late game metals) now im still new to dev options but this don't seem to be right. unless it is right...

It took me a long time to get to that point as well. I think any Terra seed ought to be decent, you just need to solve some of the more major problems that new players have a hard time with: - Replenishing water - Being on fully renewable food sources - Cooling - Power sources beyond coal and manual power - Producing Steel/Plastic Once you can do these things, getting into space is pretty doable. I do have a full walkthrough on the Terra asteroid if you're interested in checking that out

Nope, no oxygen, just water :)

Ok, thank you! =)

Hey hey, sorry, the liquid vs gas cooling was supposed to be demonstrated by the identical steam/magma setups. The Thermo Nullifier was doing an awful job at cooling something, while the polluted water was doing just fine. I don't think a pool of liquid would do enough cooling to get it into a specific place unless you piped it around. Radiation from pipes is pretty fast and effective, but from just a static pool is very slow.

Yeah, I understand what you're saying. The temperature is only contained in the matter that is spawned in that biome. The abysallite that usually surrounds each biome will help it maintain it's temperature (since it's a crazy insulator), and it will impart some temperature changes on the things it touches. But yeah, if you were to flood the ice biome with magma, you'd wind up with a bunch of water (or steam, depending on how much magma and ice) as a result, and it'd eventually all normalize to the same temperature.