To clarify - You don’t get the Oyster discount with the Network Railcard, this is why I don’t mention it!

The really winning move, if you work near the edge of zone 1, is to buy a zone 2+ travelcard and use it to get the bus (for free) to the first stop in zone 2. It can save up to £1000 a year

One tip you missed: Oyster cards cost £5 to buy, but it's a DEPOSIT. If you ever move out of London, you can go and hand in your Oyster Card and get your deposit back.

If only more people knew that you can attach an Railcard to an oyster card. My commute which normally costs £3.10 each way (off-peak). With the discount it comes to £2.05 each way and the money saved is £2.10 total daily (there and back). Considering the Rail Card costs £30 that means I make my money back in savings in just over 2 weeks. Over the year this means I'll have saved £546! Thanks Geoff :)

Saving money? On the tube? My two favourite things!

Great advice, much appreciated, for those who live outside London but visit frequently. Saves money and hassle to have insider knowledge of transport options.

Really enjoying your videos on trains, railways and the tube. Please keep them coming.

The off-peak cap in evening peak tip helped when me and me and my partner were in London this weekend. Managed to hit the off-peak cap on the Friday at 3:49pm when going to somewhere for 4pm, meaning the journey back out of zone 1 was free.

I use the Hopper fare a lot as I volunteer in Central London but live in Hillingdon, on the outskirts of West London. My travel costs are £1.50 each way, thanks to catching the 607 Express bus to Shepherds Bush and then 148 to Westminster, getting up early to be sure that I am within the traffic time window. Sure, it takes longer (even Citymapper says I am the 100% slowest commuter in London) at around 2 hours, but if it saves on my travel costs and ultimately how long I can volunteer for then that is a good thing. It's also a great way to see London, taking in the north of Hyde Park, Marble Arch and Park Lane. Yesterday the 148 diverted around Millbank and the view of the Thames was A-W-E-S-O-M-E. Other mornings I see cavalry horses out for a run. If needs be, I can still drop out and take the tube should the roads get a little stuck by traffic, but since early January have not had to do that yet. Taking the bus and tube would cost a minimum £1.50 bus and £3.30 peak tube (£8.20 for the day when capped) from Ealing Common and more for outer zone stations, i.e. Hayes & Harlington or Northolt. Go Hopper fare!

Always Love watching these types of video. alway gets me ready for when i travel to london. Thanks Geoff

The railcard one is super useful, I just got a job where I'll have to commute to London and I'm gonna take full advantage of this now

This is the most useful Oyster Card video I've seen on KZfaq. Great advice.

I knew that I could use a 16-25 railcard for Oyster discount, but I've always been reluctant to because I didn't know about the evening peak rule! I've been planning to buy a Paper Travelcard because they don't count the evening peak at all, and work out cheaper, but with this rule then I'll save myself lots of money, which is also helpful seeing as I've just bought a 3-year Railcard for the first time!

Thanks for the tips especially the first one. That reminds me I need to find my oyster card before my next trip to London.

I worked out that if I added my railcard to my Oyster, and got off at Mornington Crescent rather than Euston and walked 10 minutes to work that my daily commute costs me £2.70. I also usually tap in after 9.30 but didn't realise that it was actually 9.27 so thanks for the tip!

this all sounds quite complicated. In Berlin I pay 63 Euro a Month and can use all Busses, Trams, Ferries (!), U-Bahn, S-Bahn, RE and even ICE within the City Limits. Whenever I want, how many times I want

Geoff and trains... what a love story!:) thanks for the extra tips! We learn till we die. Although I am very knowledgable on the Travel in London Subject, I did not know that when travelling the other direction in peak times it is charged as an Off Peak. Looking forward to more videos

I’ve been using the first tip for a while now, coupled with the discount from the 16-25 railcard and it’s brilliant, saves me so much money

Excellent timing! I'm off to London myself in 2 weeks

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Omg I have a 15-25 railcard for travel to and from uni and never knew when I come home it works on TFL! Thank you so much Geoff!

Living in Northampton I always buy a One day travel card as part of my Off peak day return when I travel to London.

Geoff’s Oyster, I can see it now. In the future it will be in a museum

Thanks this has been super helpful

The no-zone bus is particularly relevant at interchanges. Going from Muswell Hill (zone 3) to Bank? (zone 1). Zones 1/2 travelcard - bus to Finsbury Park tube then change at Kings Cross for Northern line....

3:10 another point is that if you have a Travelcard covering say, zones 1 to 3 and you’re traveling outside that you only pay an “extension fare” ie pay the difference on top of that. So a journey from zone 1 to 6 will still be significantly cheaper because zone 1 is covered.

Don’t forget Geoff. That the disabled;Ed railcard discount also applies during the peak times, so we get discount 24/7 on all tfl, Br journeys.

Great video ! Like it a lot . I want more of this. But as someone who has never been to London, you should do an Oyster/Fare video... but like for someone who has no idea of what zones are o what happened if you tour London in the underground and then tap out on the same station you came in

Thank you. I've been cursing the fact that there's a 9.29am train from my local station. No longer!

Cheers Geoff just in time for my trip to London!

When we travelled on the morning 5:16 train from Chesham we were charged for a peak 1-9 Travelcard!

Thank you for the tips! Some London Underground bashing for me is due!

Very fruitful information.

Within a month I cracked the Oyster card fare myself. I rented an apartment in Zone 3. Got an annual card from zone 1 to 2. Take a bus or walk to reach the station.

Those are fantastic tips I must say :-). Certainly well recommended I do say :-). Have a nice evening and take care Geoff :-). From your friend Foxy :-).

Where I live it's so much easier. There's 3 zones, and with our equivalent of a standard Oyster card it costs 0,91€ traveling within 1 zone; 1,08€ on 2 zones; and 1,19€ on 3 zones. You can travel as much as you please whenever you want, it will always cost the same.

Have you done, or will you do a video of tips for people visiting the UK? I know about the BritRail Pass, but I don't know if that would be better than the deals I could get via some of the Apps you've mentioned in various videos. I would be interested in both National Rail and TfL deals that I could get as a senior.

With a disabled railcard you get discount on peak as Jewell as off peak fares including both caps.

Does reverse commute on morning peak also work same as evening peak? Before 9:30am from Zone 1 to Zone 2 will be charged a regular fare for example?

Pink reader is my favorite as I live between zone 2 and 3.

So I'm going to London for 3 days in April and I've been doing a little research to find the cheapest way to use the tube. I have found this blue Oyster card, but I've also found something called the Oyster visitor card. Now I don't know what the difference is between these two, do you (or someone else in the comment section) know the difference? Thanks!

Does the 16-17 saver get any discount? Or do you still have to buy a 16+ zip?

Good point about buses

Question for those wonderful people in the know. I regularly travel in from zone 6 to zone 1 within the morning peak times, however if I traveled the first leg of the journey on a bus and then only tapped in for national rail/the tube after 9.27, would I qualify for the off peak cap?

With the paper travelcard (to use the 2 for 1 promotion) of 7 days from zones 1-2, if I want to go to Wembley stadium (zone 4), I can present the travelcard at the ticket office to pay in cash only the difference instead of full fare? If not, I thought I'd get off at a station on the edge of zone 2, and re-enter using the Oyster PAYG to complete the journey to Wembley. It's a good idea? *I already plan to use Oyster PAYG for the other 4 days of travel, including the day I arrive in London, so I already have Oyster at my disposal.

Thank you for sharing.

Hello Geoff can you add your railcard and get the discount without asking to do it at a ticket office?

Can the 16-25 railcard be used with a 16+ oyster photocard for a combined offer?

I don't know if anywhere else has this, but in Ireland anyone with a disability or anyone thats a senior citizen can get a free travel pass that allows you to travel anywhere you want as many times as you want any time of day, and if you have a companion pass, you can take anyone over 16 on with you for free. This works on all public transport.

I am moving to Sidcup in Bexley but I can't see the station on the Tube map so am I taking the train to London or am I still taking the tube to London

Come to the Midlands on our trains and trams

I am soon going to need to travel by train from London to Leamington Spa and back approximately once a month. Is it worth paying that gold card you talk about? Any advice with trains, it seems there are dozens of companies and price differ from one day to the next. Not sure how to get the cheapest fare every time.

With a travelcard I can get as far as Slough and Dorking on the TfL network even though they’re not in London

Hi, can you please give me some advice. I am going to London on Saturday 8/1/22 and will be travelling on Sunday 9/1/22 from Archway on Northern line to various stations within zone 1 and returning to Archway before travelling home. Is an oyster card or contactless best option.Thanks

Can I ask a question please? If I was traveling around on DLR and I tapped in at Stratford then went to Poplar, stayed there 20 mins then went to Beckton stayed there 20 mins then went to Canning Town stayed there for 1 hour then went to West Ham and tapped out. What would I be charged for this please

I had no idea about the railcard thing! Do I have to ask at the station every single time though? I'm always in commuter rush, so might be difficult

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Since i don‘t find any information on the tfl website or anywhere else, can i top up my old visitor oyster card at gatwick Airport?

Traveling from Wembley central to SILVER STREET , AVOIDING zone one using overground, I checked so I change in hackney central and take another overground is that right ?

Interesting. I live outside of the London zones but quite frequently travel into London and typically get a Travelcard ( I like its convenience that I simply know it covers all zones and what it has cost) This typically will add about £6 to the cost. Is it possible for me to get an Oyster card and make savings?

What's the cheapest annual fare from Turnpike Lane Station via Green Park to Canary Wharf Station? I'm happy to commute from nearby stations like finsbury Park or Tottenham hale if it would make the annual fare cheaper?

Tip one explains as someone who used to live and work in zone 3 why I managed to completely miss that there was an evening peak.

Thanks for making the video

Do you just have to tap in say at 9.27/9.30 to get off peak? Do you have to tap out before 4.30 to get off peak? Or can you start your journey at 4.15 and finish at 5 and is that still off peak?

Very helpful tips, indeed. Regarding unlimited buses, the time limit is, officially, an hour, not 70 minutes. Besides, it is important to add that the trick won't work, unfortunately, if you have negative balance before you get on the second bus. If you're on, say, £1,30 when you hit the first bus, being left with £-0,20 when the second one comes, you'll get a red light and will be denied the trip by the driver.

Does 26-30 card is not only beneficial if you live outside London?

Some questions: - If you hit the daily cap, do you still have to have enough money to enter as if you didn’t hit it yet - At Heathrow, you get charged peak fares at all times if your journey starts/ends or goes through Zone 1, if you hit the off-peak daily cap, will you still get charged peak fares here?

Any tips for travelling from zone 6 to 1 and back.... Also one worker stated you can't get discount on oyster if you travel at peak times is that true?. Thanks.....

I went back to University to do a Master's and a useful "perk" is as a full time student you can get a student Oyster card giving you 30% off INCLUDING season tickets

Is the railcard thing new ? I swear you couldn't use that before

what oyster card recharge should we go for if we want unlimited travel in a month, applicable for bus/train/tube?

Disabled Persons' Railcards are valid at peak times too. So you can use those to get a discount at any time.

Geoff - in what situations does one need to tap a pink oyster card reader?

I've got a question can you use national rail with the oyster card or bank or your train ticket in London zones the other day I thought could I go to London Bridge to London st pancuss or Finsbury Park instead of getting the tube cause the tube was packed and northern rail has longer trains with more room to sit

I have travelled from Croydon (in Surrey) to Watford (Hertfordshire) on buses only and it cost me only £4.50 (but journey lasted between 4-6 hours)

I've got a senior rail card and a gold card - hadn't realised there's an oyster discount! Any way to register with oyster you have one or other pf these cars rather than faffing around at the stations?

Good tips.

Watched you yesterday on The Tube TV Show via KZfaq. Bad look on not getting the World Record! :)

What is the fare charged if you touch in and touch out at same station within 2-30 mins?

If I go for example to West Brompton and I want to head to Stratford and I touch pink reader and I go through central (picadilly, jubellie connection), would it assume I've avoided zone 1?

With the travel card one, does that apply to the 16-17 saver ticket?

Hi. Does the above apply on rail services? I seem to be charged the same amount regardless of time of travel...

Thanks!

Mind boggling for people that live outside London and have no experience of oyster. I spend two whole evenings studying it and still keep learning more. How do you get a rail card added if tube stations are unmanned?

I didn’t know about the bus. So if I take a bus and 30min later another bus, I won’t be charged because it’s inside the 70min window? Does that applies in 2022?

I know that I can merge my phsyical Railcard with my Oyster. Does anyone know if I can do the same with a digital Railcard or do I need a physical one? Thanks

Any advice on whch card to get if you're turning 31 in the next few months

Don’t forget the boundary extension tickets you can get if you have a season travelcard too! Once I found out about that I was kicking myself I didn’t know earlier...

Buses did use to have zones though... if you look carefully at most bus stops you can grey tape covering the zone number at the top of the pole

will u do the London to Amsterdam train when it opens

So one question, is it worth getting an Oyster card? You said bank cards and obviously Apple Pay works, but to the correct caps get applied? And are you able to use your 16-25 discount with them?

I've got another one if your on unemployment benefit you can get a discount photo card that you pair with your oyster to make all bus and tram journeys half price with a daily bus cap of £2.25

The" travel for 2"railcard doesn't get the 1/3 Oyster discount ?

Geoff, can you advise the best card option for an overseas visitor to the city would be using London Transport for approximately 8 days. I know you are not a travel agent so hope you don't mind me asking you. Regards John

Can i do a oyster pass from zone 4 to zone 4 🤔

Hi Geoff. Do you know of a particular reason why the Network Railcard for the South East cannot be added to an Oyster card?

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I've not had any luck with tidal fares. I think TfL and companies rely on passengers not putting in a claim for a refund.