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P1 Can Disciples Lie! Shamsi and Visitor Speakers Corner

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Sam Dawah

Sam Dawah

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@al_hilali213
@al_hilali213 2 жыл бұрын
He seems sincere, may Allāh guide him.
@abidaouladali7019
@abidaouladali7019 2 жыл бұрын
Sincere????? You mean he is being stubborn like a donkey. How clear do you have to be for some one to accept basic logic.
@al_hilali213
@al_hilali213 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelbernard7402 "most probably" that's literally an assumption so yeah you have no point even with your desperate essay...
@al_hilali213
@al_hilali213 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelbernard7402 and even if it was Michael clearly mentioned that would be irrelevant since the book is corrupted anyway so unreliable.. you guys are desperate that's pitiful...
@michaelbernard7402
@michaelbernard7402 2 жыл бұрын
@@al_hilali213 no it affirms your wickedness and that you are all bound for that infernal Pit. You dare to disrespect Mikael you magog dog
@michaelbernard7402
@michaelbernard7402 2 жыл бұрын
@@al_hilali213 not desperate that sound more like you old enemy roasted for Judgement joker magog dog
@Hairytoad20
@Hairytoad20 2 жыл бұрын
MashaAllah, I love people from Ghana, they are the most Beautiful people inside and out and may Allah guide this young man. Ameen
@georgyzhukov6409
@georgyzhukov6409 2 жыл бұрын
not sure about that
@abidaouladali7019
@abidaouladali7019 2 жыл бұрын
"The most" ??? What u smokin girl
@sadiafortune4064
@sadiafortune4064 2 жыл бұрын
Brother SHAMSI TRUE GEM to this ummah may ALLAH SAW ALWAYS PROTECT him DAWAH on POINT
@michaelbernard7402
@michaelbernard7402 2 жыл бұрын
Your am 8s a fool. How did your quran come to you were there not scribes with your companions of your prophet. You will burn for this insult dog. Fool..... even the Jewish Torah affirm the five books of Moses. The Tankh affirms the prophets in the OT. What is your man problem does he not fear. Where were the Europeans like King James at the time of Moses or yea Barbarians of the north well documented and what about you lot old enemy of truth...
@michaelbernard7402
@michaelbernard7402 2 жыл бұрын
Isaiah and His Children as Signs 8 The Lord said to me, “Take a large scroll(A) and write on it with an ordinary pen: Maher-Shalal-Hash-Baz.”[a](B) 2 So I called in Uriah(C) the priest and Zechariah son of Jeberekiah as reliable witnesses(D) for me.
@michaelbernard7402
@michaelbernard7402 2 жыл бұрын
Your Muhammad had Jibreel here is Moses teacher well documented Teacher of Moses. Michael exercised his function of advocate of Israel at the time of the Exodus also, when Satan accused the Israelites of idolatry and declared that they were consequently deserving of death by drowning in the Red Sea (Ex. R. xviii. 5). But according to Midr. Abkir (Yalḳ., Ex. 241), when 'Uzza, the tutelar angel of Egypt, summoned Michael to plead before God, Michael remained silent, and it was God Himself who defended Israel. Michael led the Israelites during their forty years' wandering in the wilderness (Abravanel to Ex. xxiii. 20). Legend makes him the teacher of Moses; so that the Israelites are indebted to their advocate for the supreme good of the Torah. This fact is alluded to in Deut. R. xi. 6 in the statement that Michael declined to bring Moses' soul to God on the ground that he had been Moses' teacher. It is clearly stated in Apoc. Mosis, i. that Moses received the two tables through the mediation of Michael. In the Book of Jubilees (i. 27, ii. 1) the angel who is said to have instructed Moses on Mount Sinai and to have delivered to him the tables of the Law is most probably Michael
@aliyasashraf8083
@aliyasashraf8083 2 жыл бұрын
writting hamd and praise in abbreviation is not correct such as SAW for sub'haana wa'ta'ala
@unknownbrother5533
@unknownbrother5533 2 жыл бұрын
May Allah guide him to islam.
@abumusa5913
@abumusa5913 2 жыл бұрын
Shamsii is seriously roasting the guy with intellect we've got some serious babicue here 🤣🤣
@abubakarrconteh2358
@abubakarrconteh2358 2 жыл бұрын
Ooo Shamsi. May Allah preserve you. May Allah bless you. And May Allah grant you Aljannatul Firdous.
@g-tactixarmy3431
@g-tactixarmy3431 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure everyone was shocked when the gentleman said is not a Christian. May Allah guid us all
@farahabdirahman1807
@farahabdirahman1807 2 жыл бұрын
i thought it was obvious from the start he was israelite or something.
@zoezoom110
@zoezoom110 2 жыл бұрын
Always good to hear from shamsi,, Well done brother, may Allah gives you success in this life and in the hereafter
@caseycasey6961
@caseycasey6961 2 жыл бұрын
Great Dawah Shamsi 🤙🤙🤙
@karimbenz9126
@karimbenz9126 2 жыл бұрын
I'm absolutely certain this man will become a muslim..one day... especially after some education insha Allah
@randomness8819
@randomness8819 2 жыл бұрын
Allah bless and give hedaya to this Ghanaian brother in humanity. ameen He seems clean in heart and a person who would accept truth once shown.
@MrMaintainen
@MrMaintainen 2 жыл бұрын
Subhanallah,....Shamsi should of used Genesis 1:31 God was pleased with creating man but then in Genesis 6:6 God regrets creating man.
@Brazybellz201
@Brazybellz201 2 жыл бұрын
He did mention it
@robleluuqlev7203
@robleluuqlev7203 2 жыл бұрын
Shamsi May Allah bless you with all the blessings and we love you for the blessed efforts you are putting in conveying the the Message and this is truly one of the most honorable work we can do in this world to help humanity come out of the darkness and into the light and eventually win the ultimate price of God’s Mercy.
@salmaalnomani5984
@salmaalnomani5984 2 жыл бұрын
May Allah bless you brother Shamsi
@d.o___
@d.o___ 2 жыл бұрын
ameen
@user-bn7de7by2m
@user-bn7de7by2m 2 жыл бұрын
Masha'allah Masha'Allah My God protect you Very nice video Thank you Jazak Allah khier
@user-sn4kw4gf5w
@user-sn4kw4gf5w 2 жыл бұрын
Very logical and enticing arguments make me very happy and sensible to our thinking. May ALLAH grant you jannathul Firdouse Ameen
@gooner2047
@gooner2047 2 жыл бұрын
May Allah guide him he seems like a good person
@GoodOne4All
@GoodOne4All 2 жыл бұрын
Subhanallah! amazing video as usual.
@abdullahmuhammad1105
@abdullahmuhammad1105 2 жыл бұрын
May Allah Give Us & This Brother Hidayah ... May Allah Blessed What Bro Shamsi & Protect Him ... InshaaAllah ☝
@nifin1470
@nifin1470 2 жыл бұрын
Michael tries to beat around the bush even everything is put in his before.
@shhaba6519
@shhaba6519 2 жыл бұрын
It seems this guy is genuinely here to learn and will see the truth and come to Islam soon inshaAllah. Shamsi and the muslim speakers understand the bible in more depth and accuracy than the Christian speakers and Christian missionaries including Bob and hatun, this is how they can make a calculated intelligent decision on what the truth is and this is why they have come to Islam the truth
@shelim6
@shelim6 2 жыл бұрын
"English is not my first language", BUT, "I'm using old English" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 God knows EVERYTHING, BUT, he doesn't know everything 🤦‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀🤦‍♀
@dignifiedfreak
@dignifiedfreak 2 жыл бұрын
Shamsi brother love you . Irtaza from Pakistan
@clearskybluewaters
@clearskybluewaters 2 жыл бұрын
lmao why is Mo Deen always lurking around Shamsi. too funny
@Akm_699
@Akm_699 2 жыл бұрын
May Allah guide this brother I hope he becomes Muslim in sha Allah
@one.path.onefaith
@one.path.onefaith 2 жыл бұрын
VERILY WHEN A HEART IS OPEN AND SINCERELY SEEKING THE TRUTH TRULY GUIDANCE WILL COME ONLY BY THE PERMISSION OF ALLAH THE CREATOR OF CREATION
@user-rh6js5kn9d
@user-rh6js5kn9d 2 жыл бұрын
الحمدلله على نعمة الإسلام
@andhbhaktkagandmaroo1417
@andhbhaktkagandmaroo1417 2 жыл бұрын
Masha Allah... 😍😍
@akaz4546
@akaz4546 2 жыл бұрын
Another non Hebrew speaking ex xtian brother thinking he would avoid the message by playing Torah this Torah that. May Almighty guide them.
@LADavis-ih3ok
@LADavis-ih3ok Жыл бұрын
Allah (SWT) Knows even what will happen from that which we didn't do, and what will happen from what we are about to do, and what will happen from what we are doing, and what is happening as we do it, and the conclusion of what we are doing before we complete those acts and every act that will or won't happen from our hands or from the hands of evryone affected by or not affected by the actions of our hands.
@jermainejones6752
@jermainejones6752 2 жыл бұрын
My brother from Ghana must know he is the chosen child of Yacob and this so called shamsi and modern day christianity is deflecting his bloodline as an Israelite
@sorbad1489
@sorbad1489 2 жыл бұрын
Masha'Allah
@TheGolfCommunity1
@TheGolfCommunity1 2 жыл бұрын
Shamsi your dawah is good, but you don’t need to shout my brother
@abidaouladali7019
@abidaouladali7019 2 жыл бұрын
Whahahaa. How stubborn can you be man!
@ibn.lamfeddal
@ibn.lamfeddal 2 жыл бұрын
Basically basically basically this and that if only a only opinion like a white paper is empty
@LearnFromTheLight
@LearnFromTheLight 2 жыл бұрын
Wallhi this brother’s heart is looking for Allah but he is looking at the wrong places, may Allah guide him
@asfiahtanjung2516
@asfiahtanjung2516 2 жыл бұрын
Shamsi ma bro on fire 😅
@Vandemataram-108
@Vandemataram-108 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👍Think and debate on Science and technology, administration and management, education, huminity.... Why are you fighting for old some false words
@Ilovewatchingsupernaturalparan
@Ilovewatchingsupernaturalparan 2 жыл бұрын
This brother looks like Daniel Kaluuya.
@shabanali8591
@shabanali8591 2 жыл бұрын
part 2 ??
@umfatima2810
@umfatima2810 2 жыл бұрын
Lol 😆 we are all waiting for it 😅
@mehammedyassin1027
@mehammedyassin1027 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@michaelbernard7402
@michaelbernard7402 2 жыл бұрын
Isaiah and His Children as Signs 8 The Lord said to me, “Take a large scroll(A) and write on it with an ordinary pen: Maher-Shalal-Hash-Baz.”[a](B) 2 So I called in Uriah(C) the priest and Zechariah son of Jeberekiah as reliable witnesses(D) for me. Isaiah and His Children as Signs 8 The Lord said to me, “Take a large scroll(A) and write on it with an ordinary pen: Maher-Shalal-Hash-Baz.”[a](B) 2 So I called in Uriah(C) the priest and Zechariah son of Jeberekiah as reliable witnesses(D) for me. 3 Then I made love to the prophetess,(E) and she conceived and gave birth to a son.(F) And the Lord said to me, “Name him Maher-Shalal-Hash-Baz.(G) 4 For before the boy knows(H) how to say ‘My father’ or ‘My mother,’ the wealth of Damascus(I) and the plunder of Samaria will be carried off by the king of Assyria.(J)”
@haraminta1119
@haraminta1119 2 жыл бұрын
shamsi aka logicly dictate
@variousbirdspecieshahaha
@variousbirdspecieshahaha 2 жыл бұрын
There are literally no muslims that can say these words once only->> I refuse to be deceived by the devil. Rev.12:9 The devil deceives the whole world. We earthen vessels are filled with either Holy Spirit or demons. Please choose wisely. ✝️❤️
@saasiri4452
@saasiri4452 2 жыл бұрын
ترجمه
@VSM-cq8tp
@VSM-cq8tp 2 жыл бұрын
Yes but we don’t confess that our Bible is exactly from God He inspired the Bible whereas your quran says otherwise
@tryemc3026
@tryemc3026 2 жыл бұрын
حديث نبوي قض مضجع الكثيرين . عن حذيفة، قال: خطبنا رسول الله (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) فذكّرنا بما هو كائن، ثمّ قـال: " لو لم يبق من الدنيا إلاّ يوم واحد لطوّل الله تعالى ذلك اليوم حتّى يبعث رجلا من وُلدي، اسمه اسمي. فقام سلمان فقال: يا رسـول الله! من أيِّ وُلدك هو؟ قال: مِن وَلَدي هذا ; وضرب بيده على الحسـين (عليه السلام) ". المنار المنيف: 148 ح 339 عن الطبراني، التذكرة ـ للقرطبي ـ: 615، عقد الدرر: 24 عن " صفة المهديّ " لأبي نعيم، ذخائر العقبى: 236، فرائد السمطين 2 / 325 ـ 326 ح 575، وانظر: سنن أبي داود 4 / 104 ح 4282، المعجم الكبير 10 / 137 ح 10230، الإحسان بترتيب صحيح ابن حبّان 7 / 576 ح 5923 عن ابن مسعود. وراجع: كشف الغمّة 2 / 469، نامه دانشواران 7 / 11.
@acefula6585
@acefula6585 2 жыл бұрын
يتفق على هذا جميع المسلمين بمختلف مذاهبهم 🤷🏾‍♂️
@tryemc3026
@tryemc3026 2 жыл бұрын
@@acefula6585 هل يتفق ةامسملون ا ن المهدي عليه السلام من سلالة الائمة من ولد للحسين عليه السلام؟؟ بالطبع لا
@acefula6585
@acefula6585 2 жыл бұрын
@@tryemc3026 نعم من ولد فاطمة رضي الله عنها كما جاء في الاثر
@tryemc3026
@tryemc3026 2 жыл бұрын
@@acefula6585 عل الاطلاق المسلمون السنة لا يعتقدون بالامامة، ولا يعتقدون بالامام الغائب، ولا يعتقدون بامامة الحسين عليه السلام، ولا يوجد لدى اهل السنة عقيدة بعصمة فاطمة الزهراء ، رغم ان رسول الله ص واله يقول ( فاطمة بضعة مني) . وعليه مذاهب اهل السنة مناقض تماما للحديث
@acefula6585
@acefula6585 2 жыл бұрын
@@tryemc3026 انت تدور جدال لا اكثر .. الحديث ليس عن امامة ولا عصمة .. جميع المسلمين يؤمنون بالمهدي الذي يظهر اخر الزمان وكما جاء في السنة اسمه محمد بن عبدالله من ولد فاطمة رضي الله عنها يملأ الارض قسطا وعدلا وينزل في وقته المسيح عيسى ابن مريم
@didybadidou9448
@didybadidou9448 2 жыл бұрын
Shamsi to fast take it easy this people are not Muslim. You have to slow down a bit bro. بي لتي هيا أحسن
@docm7735
@docm7735 2 жыл бұрын
Bro i've been trying to give dawah to non Muslims every now and then, it's harder than you think. the way they try to escape whenever they are cornered is insane. don't be too emotional brother, this is the deen of Allah.
@glassmanorangjitra
@glassmanorangjitra 2 жыл бұрын
LOL
@pjq420
@pjq420 2 жыл бұрын
@@docm7735 actually it's more complicated to make dawah with our fellow Muslims.if not starting from within our own community then the chances the mualaf would strayed away are greater than just reciting shahada
@shhaba6519
@shhaba6519 2 жыл бұрын
God doesn't make mistakes as God knows all yet the bible sais God regrets which means God made a mistake or God didn't know, these are not the attributes of a God
@AkMS0505
@AkMS0505 2 жыл бұрын
He is in denial 100%.
@johnmandy1006
@johnmandy1006 2 жыл бұрын
African on your back 100%
@michaelbernard7402
@michaelbernard7402 2 жыл бұрын
Teacher of Moses. Michael exercised his function of advocate of Israel at the time of the Exodus also, when Satan accused the Israelites of idolatry and declared that they were consequently deserving of death by drowning in the Red Sea (Ex. R. xviii. 5). But according to Midr. Abkir (Yalḳ., Ex. 241), when 'Uzza, the tutelar angel of Egypt, summoned Michael to plead before God, Michael remained silent, and it was God Himself who defended Israel. Michael led the Israelites during their forty years' wandering in the wilderness (Abravanel to Ex. xxiii. 20). Legend makes him the teacher of Moses; so that the Israelites are indebted to their advocate for the supreme good of the Torah. This fact is alluded to in Deut. R. xi. 6 in the statement that Michael declined to bring Moses' soul to God on the ground that he had been Moses' teacher. It is clearly stated in Apoc. Mosis, i. that Moses received the two tables through the mediation of Michael. In the Book of Jubilees (i. 27, ii. 1) the angel who is said to have instructed Moses on Mount Sinai and to have delivered to him the tables of the Law is most probably Michael
@CJILMinistriesprotruth
@CJILMinistriesprotruth 2 жыл бұрын
Michael is Jesus himself.
@michaelbernard7402
@michaelbernard7402 2 жыл бұрын
@@CJILMinistriesprotruth thank you but I know what I know.... Luke 11:19 King James Version 19 And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your sons cast them out? therefore shall they be your judges. Enoch 66:14-15 has Michael explaining to Enoch that the evil spirits [demons] shall bear witness against those of the flesh who supported them. Yet Enoch is told that Michael holds a secret oath so that the elect shall not perish by their knowledge like the sinners, Enoch 68:20-22. 😊 Thanks Enoch 58 shows Enoch overcome with terror over a vision he has, and Michael is quick to interpret. The terror is only for those who turn on Yahweh, that the Day of Judgement is for the elect, a day of covenant, while for sinners it is a day of inquisition. Psalm 9:17 King James Version 17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God. Thanks
@michaelbernard7402
@michaelbernard7402 2 жыл бұрын
@@CJILMinistriesprotruth Enoch 53:6 states that Michael, along with Gabriel, Raphael and Phanuel shall be strengthened during the Battle of Armageddon. (536) Enoch 53:6 states that Michael, along with Gabriel, Raphael and Phanuel shall be strengthened during the Battle of Armageddon.
@michaelbernard7402
@michaelbernard7402 2 жыл бұрын
@@CJILMinistriesprotruth and I can see noted this when news reporter with Russia at the border of Ukraine at start this... Michael's Golden-Domed Monastery (Ukrainian: Михайлівський золотоверхий монастир, Mykhaylivs'kyi zolotoverkhyi monastyr) is a monastery in Kyiv, the capital of Ukraine. The monastery is located on the edge of the bank of the Dnieper River, northeast of the Saint Sophia Cathedral.
@michaelbernard7402
@michaelbernard7402 2 жыл бұрын
@@CJILMinistriesprotruth and I used the bible to affirmed that like Luke 2 Luke 2:36 King James Version 36 And there was one Anna, a prophetess, the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Aser: she was of a great age, and had lived with an husband seven years from her virginity; Her trine and her father name A.Enoch 53:6 states that Michael, along with Gabriel, Raphael and Phanuel shall be strengthened during the Battle of Armageddon. B.Phanuel (Greek: Φανουήλ Phanouēl) or Penuel (Hebrew: פְּנוּאֵל Pənū’êl) was the father of Anna the prophetess. He is mentioned once only in the New Testament, in Luke 2:36. He was a member of the Tribe of Asher and his name means "Face of God". C. לא וַיִּקְרָא יַעֲקֹב שֵׁם הַמָּקוֹם, פְּנִיאֵל: כִּי-רָאִיתִי אֱלֹהִים פָּנִים אֶל-פָּנִים, וַתִּנָּצֵל נַפְשִׁי. 31 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: 'for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved D. a tradition that the angels were not all created at the same time. The great archangel Michael, who is called the "Angel of the Face," and all his Rank of angels were created in the first hour of Friday, Then tribe E.Numbers 13:13 King James Version 13 Of the tribe of Asher, Sethur the son of Michael. F.Philip also was from Bethsaida, of the tribe of Asher. He preached in Phrygia, Pamphylia and Pisidia; he built a church in Pisidia, and died and was buried there. He lived twenty-seven years as an apostle3. Then using Asher aser found that here once went back into Hebrew :He-EhyehAsherEhyeh "I Am that I Am" is a common English translation of the Hebrew phrase אֶהְיֶה אֲשֶׁר אֶהְיֶה‎‎ ('ehye 'ăšer 'ehye; pronounced [ Then Philip Acts 8 Acts 8:26-27 King James Version 26 And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert. 27 And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship, What chrust said Luke 11:31 Luke 11:31 King James Version 31 The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with the men of this generation, and condemn them: for she came from the utmost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here. Greater than Solomon ...The Testament of Solomon the Lord Sabaoth by Michael his archangel. [He brought me] a little ring, having a seal consisting of an engraved stone, and said to me: "Take, O Solomon, king, son of David, the gift which the Lord God has sent thee, the highest Sabaoth. With it thou shalt lock up all demons of the earth, male and female;
@abnalbkhary
@abnalbkhary 2 жыл бұрын
I have a nice idea brother shamsi , the christians dont memorise the bible , so you tak some speach from your memori , and tel them that this vers from new testament and give it a fak referense , and watch their react , im sur that they will never know that is fabrikat .. ^^
@alifnurcahyo2615
@alifnurcahyo2615 2 жыл бұрын
31:52 what
@Ronald-ss6gn
@Ronald-ss6gn 2 жыл бұрын
What is he talking about that Moses was dead, thus, the scriptures were corrupted? Nonsense! God Christ Jesus Kept the book in that He had other Prophets to carry on the word. That argument has no basis. Also, he said that because Muslims can recite the Quran that makes them secure, No! Reciting takes no one to Heaven only living a good life. God regrets means that He is disappointed, it does not mean that He did not know. Everyone on earth today disappoints God, does that mean that He did not know this before He created us?
@27Seymur
@27Seymur 2 жыл бұрын
if bible said that Christians should pray 5 time a day as Muslims and fast one month i think they will leave Christianity) and stop blindly believe in Bible) they actually gonna crucify Papa for their salvation/
@hereweare9096
@hereweare9096 2 жыл бұрын
Christian’s can pray any amount they want. We are not limited to five only. We can pray anytime or any amount. Continuously if we want.
@CJILMinistriesprotruth
@CJILMinistriesprotruth 2 жыл бұрын
You are talking rubbish and absurdities. Jesus says men ought always to pray and not to faint. What is prayer? It is talking to God as a friend. So just to pray 5 times do not cut it. Jesus says we should talk to God always. He also tells us to fast, and not only one month.
@reinpsiko4
@reinpsiko4 2 жыл бұрын
First topic: useing your same logic, Mohammed came 600 years after Jesus, should i trust him about moses and Jesus?No...after that it was writen 200 years after by hufsh who you call a lier.. On top of that Mohammed said he approves the Torah and the injil..lol
@AscendedBeyond
@AscendedBeyond 2 жыл бұрын
Oh this argument is a classic! Let me open the dusty cabinet of internet christian apologetics: firstly, the Bible is not a proof for us even secular and evangelical scholars of it admit it's been changed. Secondly Allah in the Quran never says trust the current day in hand Gospel or Torah on the contrary it says they write the book with their own hands and exchange for it a miserable price. I know me telling you this doesn't mean you won't comment this on some other video but maybe a sincere Christian will take some benefit.
@reinpsiko4
@reinpsiko4 2 жыл бұрын
@@AscendedBeyond first of all, you didn't answer 75% of my claims. But ill answer the 25% you gave me: So what if its change? We as Christians still believe the words of God will still be preserved... My question is...does the christian on the time of Muhammad worship Jesus? Yes, it is why they we're called the christians...let us say it was changed, but why Muhammad accepted it then?
@AscendedBeyond
@AscendedBeyond 2 жыл бұрын
​@@reinpsiko4 The Christians don't all do the same thing even back at the time of the prophet the christians back then were mainly subordinationist/monarchial . Allah invalidates all forms of trinitarianism in the Quran with the verse 4:171-"O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs." The only reason time is a factor for the other books is that we can PROVE they have not been preserved. The oldest partial manuscript we have of the old testament is 200-300bc the dead sea scrolls I believe. Moses lived nearly 800 years before that and during that time the Israelites lost parts of their book. It even says so in Jeremiah 8:8-“’How can you say, “We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD,” when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely? The new testament is even worse as we have more evidence for that as there are whole verses books and chapters missing from the the various denominations of Christians around the world. Catholics have 73 books and Protestants for example 66 books. The Quran comes from the same place as the Torah and the Gospel(Allah) but Allah did not see it fit to preserve those other revelations because the final revelation for the whole world was coming. The only book that is preserved from the time of its revelation is the Quran. I challenge you to prove otherwise. (Please don't bring up ahruf it really is an awful argument and does not work) Did I answer you thoroughly enough?
@CJILMinistriesprotruth
@CJILMinistriesprotruth 2 жыл бұрын
Brother you are so right. Why would I trust a secondary source when the primary source? That's absurd.
@reinpsiko4
@reinpsiko4 2 жыл бұрын
@@AscendedBeyond again, still didnt answer did you...well let me go with you then. that Verse 4:171, is funny my friend, it is mention "THE messiah", do you really now what Messiah means?yet the following sentence was; was but A MESSENGER. WTH Messiah = messenger??from that alone is a contradiction, and then continue: His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. That my friend is a trinity allah mention, lol... 1. Messenger, 2. the word of Allah/kalimatulah(sorry if i wrote that worng), 3. Soul From Allah... that is trinity, 3 form in 1. then you say The only book that is preserved from the time of its revelation is the Quran. what revelation?like the sunsets in murky water?, or the the baby comes form the backbone of the human? or maybe the Prophet had the privilege to "F" someone his eyes fall in to? and what preserved, if there are tons of bracket in quran, and still you need the interpretation form the hadith...
@adjiedguman67
@adjiedguman67 2 жыл бұрын
Make no sens
@mehammedyassin1027
@mehammedyassin1027 2 жыл бұрын
Tell us What's your believe to see if it's make sense or not!
@mikelus471
@mikelus471 2 жыл бұрын
Romans 1:23 NRSV and they exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling a mortal HUMAN BEING or BIRDS or four-footed animals or reptiles. Numbers 23:19 NKJV “God is not a man, that He should lie, Nor a son of man, that He should repent. Has He said, and will He not do? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good? Jesus says Tiger Crocodile Shark eats Green Plants Genesis 1:30 NIV And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground-everything that has the breath of life in it-I give every GREEN PLANT FOR FOOD.” And it was so.
@uthman2281
@uthman2281 2 жыл бұрын
Do you believe you exist?
@mehammedyassin1027
@mehammedyassin1027 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikelus471 في كل مكان خاص بالتعليقات تقوم بالقص واللصق جهلا! ،بدون معرفة مصداقية ما تَنقُلُ منه ومن تَنقُلُ عنه!!!
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