P2 - 3000 Gods!? Muhammad Hijab Vs Atheists | Speakers Corner | Hyde Park

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6 жыл бұрын

Part 2 - Brother Muhammad Hijab Speaks to two Atheist Visitors to the park about the belief in One god and the view os atheists on the world as it is.
Part 3 coming soon

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@AbdulSalam-ek3vj
@AbdulSalam-ek3vj 6 жыл бұрын
I used to think that atheists have the best ways in rationalising and reasoning. I was wrong.
@miburo7
@miburo7 6 жыл бұрын
by the atheist's logic, you can't even prove or disprove that human beings are mortal, because all you'd need is one immortal human being either now or in the future. Yet they accepted that premise in an instant, showing the double standard brother Hijab mentioned.
@svstore1908
@svstore1908 4 жыл бұрын
2 years later and i want to thank you for this comment
@huntedguy9013
@huntedguy9013 4 жыл бұрын
@@svstore1908 xd
@aknj
@aknj 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, can everybody explain me this phrase? Thanks
@rahilhabib
@rahilhabib 3 жыл бұрын
@@aknj they accepted the premise that all humans are mortal but in theory there could be a person in the future (currently unknown) who is not mortal and therefore breaks this belief/pattern that 'all humans are mortal'. By the same principle, the brother in the video said 'all things are limited in their variables are dependent on something else' but they rejected this because there could be something which is limited but not depending on anything else (currently unknown to them but they do not dismiss the possibility, existing either now or in the future). Both rely on the same principle that you deduce something based on what you know and currently have nothing to disprove it, yet one they accept without any issue and the other they reject. (he says it at 9:30)
@loftilhan4868
@loftilhan4868 2 жыл бұрын
@@rahilhabib clear double standards and is why the contingency argument is unbreakable
@zacharymason6798
@zacharymason6798 6 жыл бұрын
If all the scientists in the world got together and were given unlimited amounts of money and were asked to create a fly, just a fly, they wouldn't be able too.. Yet atheists say that this complex universe came from nothing with no designer and controller of it.. If u show an atheist a rubber band or a paperclip and tell them that no one made it and it just appeared, they would say ur crazy! But to them the moon and stars don't need a creator.. Smh!!
@herculiessonofzeus8878
@herculiessonofzeus8878 6 жыл бұрын
We have been living for around 100.000 years. science of that magnitude is known for a few decades. What do you expect ? We can allrdy clone sheep, isn't that neat ? no creator was needed but us ! Can't you see your religion is getting pushed to a smaller and smaller piece of driftwood, bound to drift into nothingness. a thousand years ago, ppl had gods of thunder and lightning. Science killed those. Give us some more time and we'll do the same to every religion.
@hanifsoul
@hanifsoul 6 жыл бұрын
"more time" is just "faith religion" rather than science.
@zacharymason6798
@zacharymason6798 6 жыл бұрын
herculies son of zeus What was the sheep cloned from?? Don't forget to ask ur atheist scientists to help u on that day.. Good luck with that..
@herculiessonofzeus8878
@herculiessonofzeus8878 6 жыл бұрын
Abu Ziyad, If you really wanted to know, you would look it up. Why would you believe me anyway ? Dolly (5 July 1996 - 14 February 2003) was a female domestic sheep, and the first mammal cloned from an adult somatic cell, using the process of nuclear transfer. Don't ask me to explain that, i'm not your personal teacher ! And where did you get all scientists are atheist ? Or do religious scientists don't accept Dolly was cloned ?? Either way ,you are wrong. It is true that the most respected ones are atheist. Maybe it's because they are not bound by the limits a god puts on us. You could even conclude the more educated someone is, the more likely he/she will become an atheist.
@zacharymason6798
@zacharymason6798 6 жыл бұрын
herculies son of zeus Read my question again...
@uponsunnah6986
@uponsunnah6986 6 жыл бұрын
12:48 The double standards that Mohammed exposed about atheists and the example he gave about "strong science" was incredible!!!
@user-tm1rf6lv2f
@user-tm1rf6lv2f 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing discussion. Great points made. I like how the preacher guy came back at the end and started to add a bit of rhythm to his shouting lol
@dsmvfl363
@dsmvfl363 2 жыл бұрын
17:50 “if there’s any other evidence, other than the one you have just proven, I will believe” what? So if someone presents a strong argument, and you cannot falsify it, you just say, “ I don’t concede, give me another one instead” that is just not being objective and rational. That seems purely emotional. “I don’t like your point, it makes me feel weird, give me another one” that is ridiculous.
@abumuhamedaleealansari7811
@abumuhamedaleealansari7811 6 жыл бұрын
Atheist just don't want to believe simple as that !!!!
@leadfarmer9396
@leadfarmer9396 6 жыл бұрын
11.18 this always gets the atheists stuck because they can never find the black swann
@shahid8545
@shahid8545 6 жыл бұрын
Bro Hijab is excellent and this was an amazing discussion mashaAllah
@GringoleboZebulon
@GringoleboZebulon 6 жыл бұрын
3:08 That tall guy walkin is the Muslim that almost had a fight with Sa Ra lol XD Amazing Vid!
@Mr.Jasaw13
@Mr.Jasaw13 6 жыл бұрын
brilliant ... is there gonna be a 3d part ???
@2manyusernamestaken548
@2manyusernamestaken548 6 жыл бұрын
These Christians think it is Singer's Corner or something...
@bakaryareabdulaahi9251
@bakaryareabdulaahi9251 6 жыл бұрын
Be Nave ed I like you man (Best camera man and channel forever man) garanteed
@rahilhabib
@rahilhabib 3 жыл бұрын
They reject the premise because they don't like the result. That's like saying 2+2=4 but I don't like 4 so I will say there is nothing to say that 2+2 could not have an alternative outcome.
@AyubKhan-md4km
@AyubKhan-md4km 4 жыл бұрын
Rightly hypothesised by Brother Hijab toward the end, the atheist do not accept the logical explanation given by him is because they would have to accept the presence of a creator... The atheist clearly proved Brother Hijab understanding of these atheist mindset is when the atheist himself said in his statement after Brother Hijab explained their reluctance even though Brother Hijab's point was based on logical probability. One of them clearly said "they would accept any other argument other than the logical argument Brother Hijab is putting forward" which clearly states their biased against the logical argument put forward to them. They will reject it, even if it's logical in one way
@GrapeFlavouredPop
@GrapeFlavouredPop 6 жыл бұрын
Part 3 !!
@bakaryareabdulaahi9251
@bakaryareabdulaahi9251 6 жыл бұрын
A S is already up man go watch it man
@ahsanurrahman404
@ahsanurrahman404 4 жыл бұрын
Another weakness of contingency argument, Br. HIjab & his friends should work on is: it has fallacy of composition: just because everything within universe is contingent upon something else for its existence doesn't imply that their mereological sum = universe, must be contingent upon something else, as well. What if everything in the universe creates a complex dependency network and thereby the universe, as a whole, is self-sustaining and doesn't require any outside influence to sustain itself (just like famous scientist Paul Davies posits)? I myself, tried to solve this issue; but so far, couldn't get around this (and finiteness of universe issue, I mentioned in my previous comment) problem of contingency argument.
@loftilhan4868
@loftilhan4868 2 жыл бұрын
Fallacy of composition only work in causation argument buddy not contingency argument.
@loftilhan4868
@loftilhan4868 2 жыл бұрын
The universe itself is made contingent because it is made up of limited variables.
@murata.9847
@murata.9847 3 жыл бұрын
The part limited variables is dependent (contingent) on something else. This part you can compare it like 'for order to make a rope, you need to make a knob when you're twisting the strings, or else you don't have a rope. it will keep twisting endless. IT NEEDS A BEGINPOINT in order to make a rope'. And of course it will need an end knob. (Afterlife). Ya EL-ALiM (c.c.) quran.com/3/103
@shahrakib1167
@shahrakib1167 6 жыл бұрын
Is there any book you brothers/sisters can recommend in terms of further expanding my knowledge on the subjects Muhammad hijab debates about?
@SamAndSanah
@SamAndSanah 6 жыл бұрын
shah rakib definitely the divine reality by hamza tzortzis assesses and explains all these arguments this one as well
@christopherwells3426
@christopherwells3426 6 жыл бұрын
13:40 Muhammad nailed it.
@dsmvfl363
@dsmvfl363 2 жыл бұрын
6:44 he keeps saying “cause”. That is not the same thing as dependent. The charger didn’t cause the phone, the phone is dependent on the charger. The guy has no focus.
@beast-master2094
@beast-master2094 3 жыл бұрын
19:35, Muhammad Hijab made a big blunder, you actually can't have two things that have been around forever and one being dependent on the other, just doesn't make sense. By the way I believe Time itself is a creation of Allah, and in that sense, forever is irrelevant when it comes to Allah. It's a term used in human language that is only applicable to creation. Sense we have a start, we imagine time without a start, while it can be the case that time itself started at a specific point in which time was created by Allah. I hope what I'm saying makes sense, and if it doesn't I hope someone can explain it from their point of view.
@Hello-ri9dd
@Hello-ri9dd 3 жыл бұрын
Can you explain this in simple words I dont understand please
@loftilhan4868
@loftilhan4868 2 жыл бұрын
Actually you can, Allah himself said we will live forever after we’ve been resurrected lol so it’s not only 2 but billions of entities being alive forever.
@beast-master2094
@beast-master2094 2 жыл бұрын
@@loftilhan4868 forever is a very messy word. You must define its parameters, is it forever in the future? Forever in the past and future!?
@beast-master2094
@beast-master2094 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hello-ri9dd we live in 3 dimensional space, but some theorize that there are many planes of existence that transcends what we as humans can recognize. The fourth demonstration being time. Distance and speed also influences the measurement of time. So time is ever fluctuating/changing. For example if you go from Africa to United States, due to the rotation of the earth people are one day behind. Does that mean you went back in time!? NO, in different parts of the world and in different locations of the universe time is slower or faster depending on distance and speed. I believe God brought the universe into existence, therefore bringing the equation of time into existence. When I say time is created, I don’t mean a physical entity, I mean the workings of it…the anchorage by which time is expressed and measured. Time is a tool used to express changes in space over distance. It only exists in the system of the universe. And I believe God is outside the universe, which means he is not constrained by time. Over more time itself is a created thing.
@dsmvfl363
@dsmvfl363 2 жыл бұрын
5:49 “ caused by something” this guy is putting in words. He’s so worried about being tricked into saying something, he can’t even focus on the premise correctly
@SamAndSanah
@SamAndSanah 6 жыл бұрын
Mohammed you could have explained to them how the quantifiable infinite does not exist. Therefore the un verse cannot be infinite
@helsharidy123
@helsharidy123 6 жыл бұрын
SamAndSanah or that universe can't get infinite because an infinite history is impossible. The present time would never come to pass if an infinite history needs to first precede it.
@thesunshine5289
@thesunshine5289 4 жыл бұрын
Part 3 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/abeYq6ersKfKfok.html
@s0bad
@s0bad Жыл бұрын
Thanks legend
@suzukigsxfa9683
@suzukigsxfa9683 11 ай бұрын
Interesting that double standard from Western Europeans ranges from everything from politics to sociology to law to economics or philosophy. Pretty much everything which is a foundation of their lives
@dsmvfl363
@dsmvfl363 2 жыл бұрын
4:31 all mater cannot be created or destroyed. This is simple physics guys, the universe is not infinite in its variables.
@ahsanurrahman404
@ahsanurrahman404 4 жыл бұрын
Br. HIjab's argument hinges upon the fact that universe if finite but no conclusive result could be found for that question. Just because he is so confident about the finiteness of the universe, doesn't mean it really is.
@deepthinker150
@deepthinker150 3 жыл бұрын
@Ninja FEESE Wait. Don't jump to the conclusion so fast! One reason why most scientists are non-theists is that they always double themselves + others (what if my intuition/reasoning isn't true? what if there exists another theory that explains our observations better?); they don't jump to a conclusion so fast. I've just done a bit of research on this and found that physicists are not sure about whether the universe is finite/infinite and some even say that we may never know a definite answer to that question: * www.quora.com/Is-our-universe-finite-or-infinite/answer/Frank-Heile * www.esa.int/Science_Exploration/Space_Science/Is_the_Universe_finite_or_infinite_An_interview_with_Joseph_Silk * Wikipedia entry on Universe even says that: "Observations, including the Cosmic Background Explorer (COBE), Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe (WMAP), and Planck maps of the CMB, suggest that the universe is INFINITE in extent with a finite age, as described by the Friedmann-Lemaître-Robertson-Walker (FLRW) models" Don't ask me how is that possible; I'm not a physicist; so I've to take their words.
@deepthinker150
@deepthinker150 3 жыл бұрын
@Ninja FEESE We don't know whether it's comprised of limited or unlimited variables. Period.
@deepthinker150
@deepthinker150 3 жыл бұрын
@Ninja FEESE Really? Are you saying you understand the universe better than the top astrophysicists? Sounds very arrogant. But yet, I'd listen. I'd like to learn from everyone. Prove that it is finite.
@deepthinker150
@deepthinker150 3 жыл бұрын
@Ninja FEESE Please refer to an article/paper/book. I'm an academician I love to read such things rather than reading comments.
@mrejaskhan7855
@mrejaskhan7855 3 жыл бұрын
Sir, I think he said "Universe is finite in it's composition" from expanding universe model. If there is anything wrong with that then I would want to know as I like to read. Thanks Sir.
@haqnawazlone02
@haqnawazlone02 2 жыл бұрын
10:00
@bakaryareabdulaahi9251
@bakaryareabdulaahi9251 6 жыл бұрын
guranteed
@spajjilakhas8678
@spajjilakhas8678 Жыл бұрын
They just say it is this way or that way but if you say why its that way and not that way, they dont have answars thats why atheist are delusional, but allah is above these qeustions of why this and that because he created that qeustions for us to reflect and come to logic thing, subhanallah allah is above what they are saying an claiming and reasoning
@ramseybeing
@ramseybeing 3 жыл бұрын
These guys haven’t done their research
@bakaryareabdulaahi9251
@bakaryareabdulaahi9251 6 жыл бұрын
sorry Naveed
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