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പള്ളികൾ ഏറ്റെടുക്കുന്നതിനെതിരെയുള്ള പ്രതിഷേധം തുടരും; യാക്കോബായ സഭ
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@anishabraham9203
@anishabraham9203 Ай бұрын
ആദ്യം കേസ് കൊടുക്കാൻ പോയപ്പോൾ ഇതൊന്നും ഓർത്തില്ലേ
@oommengeorge4142
@oommengeorge4142 Ай бұрын
ഉള്ള നിയമം അനുസരിക്കുന്നില്ല പിന്നെ എന്തിനു പുതിയ ഒരു നിയമം
@philipmathew3016
@philipmathew3016 Ай бұрын
ആദ്യമായി നമ്മുടെ ഭാരതത്തിൻ്റെ പരമോന്നത കോടതിയായ സുപ്രിം കോടതി വിധി (അപ്പിലി ല്ല) അംഗീകരിച്ച് സമാന്തര ഭരണം നിർത്തണം. മേലിൽ എന്തെങ്കിലും അഭിപ്രായവ്യത്യാസ മുണ്ടെങ്കിൽ ഒരു മേശക്കു ചുറ്റും ഇരുന്ന് ചർച്ച ചെയ്ത് പരിഹരിക്കാം. വേണമെങ്കിൽ നിയമപരമായി 1934 ഭരണഘടനയിൽ മാറ്റം വരുത്തി 'പ്രശ്നം പരിഹരിക്കാം. നിങ്ങളുടെ 'പ്രശ്നം നിങ്ങൾ പരിഹരിക്കു 1934 ലെ ഭരണഘടന പ്രകാരം. അതിനർത്ഥം നിങ്ങൾ മേലിൽ കോടതി കയറരുത്. അത് നിങ്ങളുടെ ശേഷ്ഠമായ മതത്തിന് അപമാനമാണന്നാണ് കോടതി പറഞ്ഞിരിക്കുന്നത്.
@georgethampan3531
@georgethampan3531 Ай бұрын
ഞാൻ ഓർത്തഡോൿസ്‌ ഇടവകയിൽ ആണ്, ഇ വിധിയെ ഓർത്ത് ദുഃഖം ഉണ്ട്
@printart-wg6tf
@printart-wg6tf Ай бұрын
You don't have the right to say -Patriarca is not necessary to approve - in any context .
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j Ай бұрын
When there is a property disputes between two persons and mediation failed they approached Court of Law.Then both should accept the court verdict. But Tirumeni and group not accepting the verdict. Instead of that Tirumeni is telling that Government Change the law and enact a new Law. O that they can escape from the Court verdict.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j Ай бұрын
Tirumeni, It is very difficult for you to run this Sabha if Orthodox sabha go strictly as per 2017 Order.
@philipmathew3016
@philipmathew3016 Ай бұрын
ഇന്ത്യാ രാജ്യത്തിൻ്റെപരമോന്നത കോടതിയായ സുപ്രിം കോടതി വിധിച്ച വിധി രാജ്യത്തിൻ്റെ നിയമം ആണ്. ഈ വിധിക്കെതിരെ അപ്പീൽ ഇല്ല. കാരണം, സുപ്രിം സുപ്രീം കൊടതിക്കു മുകളിൽ കോടതിയില്ല. പകരം ഈ വിധിയിൽ എന്തെങ്കിലും തെറ്റുപറ്റിയിട്ടുണ്ടങ്കിൽ രുത് തിരുത്തി കിട്ടണം അതിനു അപേക്ഷ കൊടുത്തു. പരിശോധിച്ചു. തെറ്റ് പറ്റിയിട്ടില്ല എന്നു ഉറപ്പുവരുത്തി. പിശക് ഒന്നും സംഭവിച്ചിട്ടില്ല എന്നുറപ്പു വരുത്തി കഴിഞ്ഞു. പിന്നീട് ഹർജിയുമായി സുപ്രിം കോടതിയിൽ ചെന്നപ്പോൾ സുപ്രിം കോടതി 25,000 രൂപ പിഴയടച്ചു കോടതിയുടെ സമയം പാഴായി കളഞതിന്. ഇനിയും കോടതി മുഖേന പരിഹാരം ഇല്ല. പിന്നെന്തു പരിഹാരം? നിയമ നിർമാണം എങ്ങനെ Gort. നടത്തും ? സുപ്രീം കൊടതി വിധി എതിരായാൽ എങ്ങനെ ഒരു ജനാധിപത്യ സർക്കാർ കോടതി വിധി അസാധു ആക്കും നിയമ പരമായി? ജയിച്ച കക്ഷികൾ അവിടെ മിണ്ടാതിരിക്കുമോ?.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j Ай бұрын
Tirumeni, answers are there in the Supreme Court order of 2017.Tirumeni do not be.in hurry.Read the order patiently. Then you will understand the order.What Supreme Court order says Tirumeni, you can believe in Supremecy of Patriarch. But Patriarch could not appoint or Cnsercate priests, metran,or Pralxate.Then what is the use?
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j Ай бұрын
Tirumeni, onething you say that You accept Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha 1934 Constitution?Yes or No.If the answer is No then do not talk more.No use.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j Ай бұрын
Supreme Court Committed any Error in it's Judgment there is a provision in the law that is Curative petition.That you have already done. You got reply from the Supreme Court that every thing is O.K.Then what to do.?
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j Ай бұрын
Tirumeni is worried about Government is spending lot of money in giving police protection. Tirumeni you don't prevent the Orthodox Sabha members who come with Supreme Court order.Then POLICE protection is not required. Who will prevent a person who come with Court order. How Orthodox Suriyani Sabha members could enter Mulanturuthy Church?Gregorios Tirumeni himself was not Coming out from the Church. Tirumeni was telling to police by using force you take me out. Then SP put his hand on the shoulder of Tirumeni. Then Tirumeni like an obedient Boy moved out along with S.P😂Everybody witnessed the scene 😂POLICE lifted Osthathios Tirumeni. This can only be done by police. That is why Government is spending money to diploy POLICE .😂
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 16 күн бұрын
The question is whether you accept 1934 Constitution or not?Justice Mallimutt raised a doubt whether you belong to a Christian Church.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j Ай бұрын
Tirumeni, what the Supreme Court judgment order says?The Supreme Court order says that there is only one sabha that is Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha and governed by 1934 Constitution of Malankara Orthodox suriyani Sabha. That is all.The name of Jakobaya sabha is not mentioned in the order because 1934 Constitution is for the Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 25 күн бұрын
Sreshta Bawa live long.Give him life for 1000 years.
@sajuzachariah8975
@sajuzachariah8975 Ай бұрын
നിങ്ങൾ ആദ്യം കോടതി വിധി അംഗീകരിക്കുക
@mathewchacko3101
@mathewchacko3101 Ай бұрын
എൻ്റെ കൊച്ചി ശാന്തി കൃഷ്ണേ എന്താ ഈ പറയുന്നത് താങ്കൾ 1934 ഭരണഘടന അംഗീകരിച്ച് ബഹു. സുപ്രീം കോടതി വിധി അംഗീകരിച്ചതല്ലേ?
@BijuCherian-zo6em
@BijuCherian-zo6em 26 күн бұрын
1934 ാം ഭരണഘടന ഒന്നാം ഭാഗം എന്തുകൊണ്ട് ഓർത്തോഡോക്സുകാർ അംഗികരികുന്നില്ല? പിന്നെ 34 എന്ന ഈ ഭരണഘടന പല പട്ടം തിരിത്തി ഏഴു തിയത് ആര് അംഗി കരിക്കാൻ
@pauloseko1067
@pauloseko1067 Ай бұрын
Nothing you do for the common people but everything is under the rule of the rulers
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 17 күн бұрын
Supreme Court judgment is over.Then to make legislation.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 24 күн бұрын
Justice Mohammed Mushtaq will never told to Government to frame niyamam to save the dissident.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 26 күн бұрын
Tirumeni, you are always agreived party .1958,1995,2002,2017,and 2019.
@anishjoseph5278
@anishjoseph5278 29 күн бұрын
സഭ ഒന്നാകണം,34ഭരണ ഘടന അംഗീകരിക്കണം, അടുത്ത കാതോലിക്ക യായി യാക്കോബായ സഭയിൽ നിന്നും ആരെങ്കിലും വരട്ടെ.പ്രശ്നങ്ങൾ തീരട്ടെ.
@robinair77
@robinair77 Ай бұрын
നിയമനിർമാണം കോടതി തള്ളിക്കളഞ്ഞൽ അടുത്ത യാക്കോബായ വിഭാഗത്തിൻ്റെ നടപടി എന്തായിരിക്കും
@kvthomas1717
@kvthomas1717 Ай бұрын
ഞങ്ങൾ കൂട്ടത്തോടെ അണ്ടിയോക്കയിലേക്ക് പായ്ക്ക് ചെയ്യും!!!
@philipmathew3016
@philipmathew3016 Ай бұрын
നമസ്കാരം ഉണ്ട്. നിയന്ത്രണം നിയമ പരമല്ല. കോടതി വിധിയെ അഗീകരിക്കില്ല ഇവർ. പിന്നെന്തിനാണ് ഇനിയും പുതിയ നിയമം?
@Spt1904
@Spt1904 Ай бұрын
സുറിയാനി ഓർത്തഡോക്സ് സഭ..... അതു പറഞ്ഞത് ശരിയാണ്
@oommengeorge4142
@oommengeorge4142 Ай бұрын
നിയമം വിട്ടു എന്തെങ്കിലും ചെയ്താൽ അതു കോർട്ട് അലക്ഷ്യം ആകില്ലേ തിരുമേനി
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j Ай бұрын
How you became the Custodian of Piravam Church, Mulanturuthy Church, Manarcadu Church. ?The 5th Catholcose of Malankara Orthodox suriyani Sabha Basalios Marthoma Mathews First was a member of St.Marys Church Manarcadu. His Holiness Father,Father Mathews was the Vicar of Manarcadu St.Marys Church. Fr.Mathews was buried in the Cemetry of Manarcadu St.Marys Church. Then Tirumeni how you can say that Manarcadu St.Marys Church belong Solely to you.?Like wise Trikkunnathu Seminary Chappell and Seminary and Khabar of Your Malankara Metropolitan Athanasius is in the Seminary Chappell. PILIPPOSE MOR THEOPHILOSE TIRUMENI THE ANGAMALI DIOSCESE METROPOLITAN OF ORTHODOX SURIYANI SABHA WAS BURIED IN THE ANGAMALY SEMINARY CHAPPELL BY THE SIDE OF THE KHARAR OF ATHANASIUS TIRUMENI. THEOPHILOSE TIRUMENI WAS THE ANGAMALY BHADRASANAM OF MALANKARA ORTHODOX SURIYANI SABHA FROM 1984 TO TILL HIS DEATH THEOPHILOSE TIRUMENI WAS METROPOLITAN OF KOTHAMANGALAM Cheriya Pally.How was it possible?The body of Orthodox Suriyani Sabha ANGAMALY Priest Secretary Fr.Jacob Mannara Prayil was buried in the side of Trikkunnathu Seminary Chappell How it was possible Tirumeni. Tirumeni you know the GREAT MARCH From Kottayam To Trikkunnathu Seminary was carried out by Knanaya Suriyani Jakobaya Sabha Valiya Metropolitan Abraham Mor Clemis Metropolitan to Occupy Trikkunna thu Seminary .What happened to Trikkunnathu Seminary Chappell and Property?So do not tell that all Churches are belong.to Jakobaya Suriyani Sabha.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j Күн бұрын
After the Supreme court judgment of 1958 and passing of 1934 Constitution of Malankara Orthodox suriyani Sabha there is no Jakobaya sabha. Malankara Jakobaya Suriyani Sabha became Malankara Orthodox suriyani Sabha. Then among Orthodox Suriyani Sabha how Referundum can be taken?The Advocate of Jakobaya faction raised the demand of Referundum to Supreme Court. The Supreme Court rejected the plea.Then demanded to allow two Vicars to allow prayer timing that also rejected by Supreme Court. No Parallel Administration in a Church that will lead to Clash between two and which lead to Closing of Churches..
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 12 күн бұрын
In 1958 both the faction umited and became one sabha accepting 1934 Constitution. The name of the SABHA became Malankara Orthodox suriyani Sabha.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 7 күн бұрын
Kuruppumpadi St.Marys Church is one of the oldest Church of Malankara Jakobaya Suriyani Sabha (Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha).The Church is one of the biggest Church in Malankara Sabha. From 1912 Onwards the Patriarch Kashi wanted to put the Malankara sabha under Patriarch. Unwanted Power was given to Patriarch. This lead the Malankara Sabha Under pressure from Patriarch. Though Patriarch was not having Temporal power Patriarch Kashi Gave Temporal power to Patriarch. Even they do not want Catholica te in Malankara..Peter 3rd Patriarch Strengthened Malankara sabha. PETER THIRD PATRIARCH WAS HEPFUL IN PREVENTING ANGLICAL INFLUENCE IN MALANKARA SABHA..ABDULLA PATRIARCH HAS DONE MAXIMUM HARM TO MALANKARA Jakobaya Suriyani Orthodox Sabha.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 27 күн бұрын
In 1964,Timothios.Tirumeni was elected to Consercate as Catholcose and consercated as Catholcose by Yakoob 3rd Patriarch. We have to accept this pro cdure to end theConflict.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 14 күн бұрын
Compromise should have been in1915 or 1920.How the priest could manage their members to stand and fight like foes.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 12 күн бұрын
When Orthodox Suriyani Sabha is fully succeeded in Supreme Court Verdict. Curative petition filed by Patriarch Kashi as no appeal against Supreme Court order.That was rejected . All Chances were exhausted. Then what to do?Accept the Supreme Court Verdict.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 15 күн бұрын
Tirumeni, Orthodox Suriyani Sabha is not going to allow division of Malankara Orthodox suriyani Sabha. So there will be disturbed atmosphere in Churches..
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 26 күн бұрын
Orthodox Suriyani Sabha is accepting Patriarch is the head of Suriyani Orthodox Sabha of Antioch. The appeal of Patriarch was dismissed by Arun Misra Bench.Verdict is over. Then the Bench gave an advice that in future any dispute in the Sabha.errupts you do not come to Court but you talk yourself and allay the differences if reqired ammend the 1934 Constitution as per law.This is after implementing the Supreme Court order. Very Simple. Don't mislead the Sabha Makkal. Don't allow the Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha to Split..❤❤❤WE are respecting Patriarch Bawa. We are remembering in our prayers Aprem Bawa.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 16 күн бұрын
Why High Court is Ordering police protection?When Supreme Court Order is there then what is the need for Niyama Nirmanam?
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 26 күн бұрын
Tirumeni, Tirumeni file a Hargi in Supreme Court to direct Kerala Government to pass niyamam to solve the problem.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 18 күн бұрын
If you are the owner of the church ,then how Supreme court can take this decision?horrible. Then What for the Bill.?
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 3 күн бұрын
Referundum is in Malankara Orthodox suriyani Sabha Association. In Kerala Assembly the Majority is decided in Kerala Assembly among MLAs.Not in Jilla wise.Justice Mallimutt report is clear.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 17 күн бұрын
Tirumeni, Jakobaya Suriyani Sabha became Malankara Orthodox suriyani Sabha in 1934 Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha Constitution. 1958 Verdict of the Supreme Court declared that it'is Valid.I Government wish to introduce Bill let Government do it..why delay?
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 2 күн бұрын
Tirumeni, ask the Kerala Government to Pass the Bill. That is the only way for stopping the Implementation of the Supreme Court judgment. If there is a judgment that Government can pass the niyamam.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j Күн бұрын
In the next posting date Government Pleader can submit affidavit that Government will introduce the Bill on .....date.
@anishabraham9203
@anishabraham9203 Ай бұрын
ആദ്യം കോടതി വിധി നടക്കട്ടെ
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 18 күн бұрын
For Orthodox the case is ended. Annyayam .
@abrahammathew4123
@abrahammathew4123 Ай бұрын
Orthodox Sabha നിയമം വിട്ട് ഒന്നും ചെയ്യില്ല എന്നതാണ് പ്രശ്നം എന്ന് തിരുമേനി പറയുന്നത് correct.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 5 күн бұрын
Arun Misira did not mentioned anything about Patriarch in his order dtd 3rd July 2017..Order is silent about Patriarch. .It is said in the order that Patriarch is not any Authority to appoint Priest,Pralate, Vicar or even a Deacon in Malankara Orthodox suriyani Sabha. Sabha Should be managed by 1934 Constitution..
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 18 күн бұрын
In 1958 there was only one sabha.That is Orthodox sabha..
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j Ай бұрын
Tirumeni, you are very confident
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 3 күн бұрын
In Assembly Majority is prooved in the floor of the house not any where else. Like wise the Majority of Catholcose Malankara Metropolita and Committee members are decided in Association. Not taking Majority in Edavakas.Edavaka sent its elected representatives.That is over in Parumala Association held in February 2002..Justice Mallimutt Submitted his report to Supreme Court. Supreme Court studied the report and after Studying all the evidence only the Supreme Court judgment came in 3rd July 2017.clearly.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j Ай бұрын
Hundreds of Churches are there in the Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 15 күн бұрын
Don't disappointed.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j Ай бұрын
Arun Misira in 2018 dis missed a petition filed by some Jakobaya members praying to direct the Government to make niyamam for solving the problem in Malankara Sabha.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 2 күн бұрын
Government school not consider Orthodox Opinion.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 23 күн бұрын
Tirumeni is not blaming Metran Kashi. GOOD. TIRUMENI CHURCH BILL WILL NOT COME.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 26 күн бұрын
Tirumeni, many families are continuing in the Church. What they are telling is that Church they would.not leave. They are asking a question why we should leave the church?We were with Patriarch today also we respect Patriarch while continuing in the Church.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 18 күн бұрын
Tirumeni, put pressure on Pinarai Vijayan to Pass Malankara Church Bill immediately. Other wise one by one all the churches will go back to Orthodox Suriyani Sabha. Where is K.T.Thomas ?Where he has gone?7years had gone.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 25 күн бұрын
Tirumeni, you know what happened to the High Court Judge Who permitted your Kashi to perform prayer on time schedule basis in Kandanadu Church? Supreme Court asked asked the Judge Whether Kerala is not in India?Supreme Court Orders are not applicable for Kerala..
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 3 күн бұрын
Who is the owner of Piravam Church Tirumeni?Who is the owner of Mulanturuthy Marthoman Orthodox Church?Who is the owner of Odakkali Church?What happened to you Tirumeni?All the Chrches belog to Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha. Formerly known as Malankara Jacobite Suriyani Sabha.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 29 күн бұрын
Tirumeni, from Manarcadu St.Marys Church one family has joined in Indian Pentacotal Sabha in Manarcadu. Tirumeni please tell can he take a candle stand from Manarcadu St.Marys Church while leaving?
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 22 күн бұрын
From the very beginning the Patriarch was not cosulting the sabha before taking any act.Patriyarc was not obeying Court order.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 5 күн бұрын
Who is the owner of the Church?
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j Күн бұрын
Why Bill?
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 19 күн бұрын
Which Association granted Permission toFr.C.T Thomas,Perumpalli Fr.Gheevargheese and one more Kathanar to go to Turky and became Metran?They were not having the acceptance of the Syriyan Christian Community for Metran Abhishek am.So they got only unacceptable Consercation.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 16 күн бұрын
When ever you are having life in your body you fight.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 29 күн бұрын
Teerpu is in Court of law.That is over in Supreme Court of India on 3rd July 2017.Then what is judgment.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 19 күн бұрын
You sumitted hargi in Court of Justice. Finally the Supreme Court given its judgment. After that CURATIVE PETITION IS EXAMINED..FINALY THE SUPREME COURT GIVEN A FINAL VERDICT WITH INSTRUCTION TO IMPLEMENT THE VERDICT forth with.Then how you expect Justice from Court
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j Ай бұрын
Where High court said to Government go ahead with Niyama Nirmanam?Where is the judgment?Nuisance.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 15 күн бұрын
Tirumeni, How this situation came?Why Vattasseril Tirumeni was dismissed by Patriarch Abdullah without Show cause notice. First Patriarch Should have given notice to Vattasseril Tirumeni for his dismissal. Patriarch Should have Consulted Malankara Jakobaya Association. Patriarch has shown High handedness on Malankar Sabhha.Court case went on.went on went on finaly landed in July 3rd judgment ❤
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 12 күн бұрын
Tirumeni, accept Basaliose Marthoma Mathews 3rd as Catholcose and Malankara Metropolita. After Basaliose Marthoma Mathews 3rd Gregorios Tirumeni became Catholcose and Malankara Metropolita.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 16 күн бұрын
These people are not serious. About Supreme Court.Then what to do?
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 10 күн бұрын
It is 100%SURE that Government will not bring any Bill to solve the Malankara Church problem. Government pased the Semitry Bill. because every body will support the Bill and Orthodox Sabha will not object it..
@philipmathew3016
@philipmathew3016 Ай бұрын
നമ്മൾ മാത്രം തീരുമെനി. We the members of the Malankara orthodox Suriyani Sabha abiding the 1934 constitution of the Malankara orthodox Suriyani Sabha. തിരുമെനിയും തോമസ് മാർ ദിവന്യാസിയോസ് തിരുമേനിയും (ഇപ്പോഴത്തെ ശ്രേഷ്ഠ കാതോലിക്ക ബാവ) പെരുമ്പള്ളി തിരുമേനിയും തിരുമേനിയും സേവേറിയോസ് തിരുമേനിയും തോമസ് മാർ അത്തനാസിയോസ് തിരുമേനിയും മിലിത്തിയൊ സ്, നിക്കോളവാസ് തിരുമ്മനിയും 1934 ഭരണഘടന അംഗീകരിക്കുന്നു സ്വീകരിക്കുന്നു എന്ന് സുപ്രിം കോടതിയിൽ ഏഴുതി ഒപ്പിട്ടു കൊടുത്തതല്ലേ? അങ്ങനെ നിങ്ങളെ മലങ്കര ഓർത്തഡോക്സ് നൂറിയാണി സഭയുടെ മെതാൻ മാരായി ചില വ്യവസ്ഥയുടെ അടിസ്ഥാനത്തിൽ സ്വീകരിച്ചു അങ്ങനെ നിങ്ങളുടെ മെതാൻ സ്ഥാനം അംഗികരിച്ചു. എന്നാൽ അത്തനാസിയോ സ്,മിലിത്തിയൊസ്, നിക്കൊള വാസ് എന്നീ മുന്നു മെത്രാൻ മാർ മാത്രമേ വ്യവസ്ഥ പാലിച്ചുള്ളു. അങ്ങനെ അവർ ഓർത്തഡോക്സ് സഭയുടെ മെത്രാൻ മാരായി സഭയിൽ താടുന്നു.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 18 күн бұрын
Shameful,Shameful.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 25 күн бұрын
Tirumeni, you are Malankara Metropolitan Trusty of Jakobaya Suriyani Sabha without having old Churches. Constructed prior to 2002.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 17 күн бұрын
Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha is your sabha not sister sabha.You see the Supreme Court judgment.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 27 күн бұрын
The Orthodox Suriyani Sabha does not wantt to divide the sabh.Mushtak get firing from Supreme Coury.Who is the Owner of Piravam Church?
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 24 күн бұрын
Tirumeni, if you want to remain as a Sabha you built new Churches. Then only you can remain as a sabhaa. All Churches will go to Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha including Manarcadu ❤
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j Ай бұрын
Tirumeni, why you are blocking Orthodox members. Tirumeni,you are a good Actor.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 2 күн бұрын
Can the1934 Constitution he cancelled by Niyama Nirmanam.?
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 27 күн бұрын
Tirumeni, you are doing contempt of court.They will moove thehargi to High Court.
@BijuCherian-zo6em
@BijuCherian-zo6em 26 күн бұрын
നിയമനിർമ്മാണം തടയാൻ ഇന്ത്യയിൽ ഒരു കോടതിക്കും കഴിയുകയില്ല മറിച്ച് നിയമം നിർമ്മിക്കുന്നത് നിയമ്മ നിർമ്മാണ സഭകളാണ് സുപ്രികോടതി നിർത്തലാക്കിയ തമിഴ്നാട്ടിലെ ജെല്ലിക്കെട്ട് അവിടെത്തെ സർക്കാർ പുനസ്ഥാ വിച്ചില്ലേ?
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 15 күн бұрын
Tirumeni tell public you are accepting 1934 Constitution?
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 14 күн бұрын
How media Supported you?
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 25 күн бұрын
Tirumeni, who denied Justice to you?Vattasseril Tirumeni or Basalios Augen Catholcose?Who told to take Refurendum?Supreme Court authorized to take referendum?Litigation is over. Without the authorisation of Malankara Orthodox suriyani Sabha Association how FR.C.T.THOMAS went to Damascus and got Consercate as Bishop Thomas Mor Dyanasious in 1974?There started the reason for second Split in the Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j Ай бұрын
To whom you will fought?
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 12 күн бұрын
As far as Greegorios Tirumeni is concerned, Tirumeni can not live without Patriarch Bawa and Thomas Mor Dyanasious.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 5 күн бұрын
Supreme Court of India issued it's Final judgment on 17th July 3rd. All members should obey the Supreme Court verdict. No other way..If you don't want to obey the Court verdict you leave the sabha and leave the church. Construct new Churches.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j Ай бұрын
No noyama nirmanam.For your disobedience why Government should make law?
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 4 күн бұрын
There are only two Metran coming to press .Greegorios Tirumeni and Theophilos Tirumeni. Why other Tirumeni mar are not coming to press.?Let Thimothios Tirumeni Kottayam Metropolita not allowed to come before Press?
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 22 күн бұрын
Why Orthodox suriyani Sabha is adamant to implement 2017 Supreme Court Order?Had the Orthodox Suriyani Sabha was adamant to implement the 1958 Supreme court order.,the Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha would not have faced this problem. Independent Church demand Supreme Court rejected .😊
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j Ай бұрын
Tirumeni no use waiting for Niyama Nirmanam by Kerala Government. Some of the members of Malankara sabha approached Supreme Court for giving directions.to Kerala Government to formulate legislation fordifusing the situation in the Malankara Suriyani Sabha. The Bench Headed by Justice Arun Misra dismissed the Petition 5 years back.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 13 күн бұрын
In the 3rdJuly Supreme Court Verdict the Supreme Court dismissed the appeal.of K.S.Varghese nominee of DISSIDENT. Then Arun Misra gave an advice that further any difference Opinion comes that will be solved by dialogues if reqired by Ammending the1934 Constitution. Tirumeni, your group is not accepting the 1934 Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha Constitution. Then how starts Dialogue?This 1934 Constitution is the problem really. Vattasseril Gheevafgheese Mor Dyanasious Tirumeni a clever and intelligent Saint Malankara Metropolita done a good thing.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j Ай бұрын
Tirumeni, For remving any mistake in Supreme Court there is a remedy.Submit a Curative petition.Then Supreme Court will examine it and necessary correction will be made by the Supreme Court. That opportunity also availed. No correction. So that opportunity also availed.Then what next?
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 24 күн бұрын
Can't you forget and forgive?
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 15 күн бұрын
Even after unity in 1958 there was Antioch forum in Kottayam side.They using political clout with Home Minister blocked Gheevafgheese Second Catholcose in Kumrakam Church. Only after the Consercation of Basalios Augen Bawa strengthened unity. That also undermined Yakoob 3rd. Instead of strengthening unity in Malankara Orthodox suriyani Sabha some were interested in their Selfish motives.I do not know there was some Ego clashes with Vattasseril Tirumeni. Paulose Mor Coorilose Tirumeni was a pious Metran. What Justice Arun Misira Opinion in the 3rd July Verdict is Correct.In order to grab power both the Factions are taking the name of St.Peter.and St.Thoms. But Church is built on Jesus Christ as Corner Stone. Arun Misra is Brahmin Pandit.Justice Misra Commend.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 17 сағат бұрын
The mental Trauma facing by the Samudayam (both the faction)are horrible. Why you are doing this?
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 25 күн бұрын
What happened to Piravam and Mulanturuthy?
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 23 күн бұрын
Tirumeni, the Orthodox Sabha agreed that Antioch Patriarch is the head of Suriyani Orthodox Sabha. The Orthodox Sabha.agreed this in High Court in Justice Devan Ramachan Bench.Then What Happened?Nothing happened?Why?,You admitted in the 1958 case that By Consercating a Catholcose in Malankara Sabha Metran Kashi they become a separate sabha worshipig against Patriarch. So the Metran Kashi informed the Court that we haven't gone away from the Jacobaya Suriyani Sabha. The Antioch Patriarch only established a Catholicte that doesn't mean that we are gone away from the Church.?We are still in the Basaliose faith.So rhere no independent Sabha Catholcose agreed.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j Ай бұрын
Tirumeni, Abded Mesiha Antioch Patriarch came to Malankara and Consercated Paulose Mor Ivanios Sr.Metopolitan as Catholcose of the East. The Patriarch gave authority to Consercate Bishops and Catholcose and Mor one the use in Malankara. This was authenticated by giving Kalpana. The Malankara Metropolitan is the Metropolitan Trusty of the Sabha
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 12 күн бұрын
Now Metran Kashi is not there.Now Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j Ай бұрын
Tirumeni is telling that there is High court order for passing Bill Then why Pinarai Vijayan is not making niyamam?wonderful Tirumeni
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j Ай бұрын
Tirumeni, you remember the story of Tower of Babel.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 22 күн бұрын
Tirumeni, some people from your Church went to Pentacotal believef..Can they claim some propery before going to Pentacotal Faith Homes?
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 7 күн бұрын
Believers are building Church building.Unless the building is Consercated by the Sabha Priest the building will not became Church. So the Church belongs to the Sabha. There should be a procedure to Manage the Church and its property.Regarding the management there is a Constitution framed by Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha in 1934 called 1934 Constitution. All the Chrches belog to the Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha should be managed by the 1934 Constitution. So as per Supreme court Verdict there are 2024 Churches are belog to Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha. These Churches are to be administrard by 1934 Constitution. If not Administered by 1934 Constitution It should be managed by 1934 Constitution.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j Ай бұрын
Supreme Court remaks can be removed Supreme Court alrady judged that there is only one sabha. Factions are not in existance.
@PhilipMathew-k3j
@PhilipMathew-k3j 7 күн бұрын
We are going to loose Kuruppum Padi St.Marys Orthodox Church also going to Malankara Orthodox Suriyani Sabha. Heavy loss toPatriyarch Kashi. One of the oldest Church.
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