I own the dewalt tuff system 2.0. One day I had the three boxes stacked and strapped in the back of my truck. My tail gate failed and the boxes fell out of my truck going 45 mph. I have at least $5,000 worth of tools batteries in those boxes. They hit the road and to my surprise all three boxes stayed connected to one another as they bounced down the road( that’s right bounced). The only real damage they sustained was the corner of the bottom box, that hit the road first, cracked other than that none of my tools were damaged and everything stayed put. In my opinion those boxes payed for themselves 5 times over in that one accident. I promptly replaced the bottom box (along with fixing my tail gate) and couldn’t be happier. Those boxes also spend every day in the bed of my truck. Living in Oregon where it rains and freezes more than sunshine I can tell you that they are completely water proof. You cannot beat them for the money.

You make it look easy taking the Milwaukee apart and putting it back together. When that stuff is full of tools it can be a pain in the ass.

I have the packout system I just got it on sale at Home Depot. $199 for three pieces and added on top box because it was on sale also. When you open up my boxes though every power tool in there is yellow and black. I have no brand loyalty so I got the best system I can find regardless of the manufacturer. It's a little bit better than the DeWalt system I don't think it's twice as good though. I can't wait for a Milwaukee fanboy to see me open that thing up and start pulling out all DeWalt power tools. I do have an old-school metabo angle grinder which has a Milwaukee wrench for changing wheels. I think that's about the only Milwaukee tool I have. Well I think I might have a screwdriver somewhere in my garage.

Dewalt system for me it's way cheaper and all I do is carry my tools in it I don't really care if it's all singing dancing multi pack I just want my tools safe and clean, years ago I used to use a plastic bags so dewqlt cases massive step up for me

I’ve owned 1.0 and 2.0 tough system and the Milwaukee pack out system and I have decided to sell the packout. For me, I can’t stand how awkwardly wide the packout boxes are, the tough system 1.0 are the perfect size. I also can’t stand the gimmicky red, I’ve seen my dads old red snap on stuff aged over the years and I’m just not a fan. Black looks more serious, not like a toy, and every carpenter I see has packout, people will more likely steal that stuff also. I own Milwaukee fuel tools and keep them in my tough system. I got the 1.0 with the 2.0 cart, I got three 1.0 boxes for the price of Milwaukee’s one box. I do however use packouts small parts organizers, as they are far superior. I guess I’m not brand loyal, they are all great, I couldn’t justify 139 for packout when tough system cart is going for 89…that’s a 50 dollar difference and the boxes are made at the same place, same material, but you can remove dewalts handle. At a certain point you gotta question if your being biased to a certain brand because you like the looks of it.

When I purchased my rigid boxes two years ago I compared all three at Depot. Yes the packouts offer the most customization and locking mechanism is awesome. But the cost is crazy when you have 20 packouts vs less than halftone cost for 20 rigid boxes. The biggest factor for not justifying the packouts cost was that other than depth on some of the boxes the rigid’s internal dimensions are larger in length and width. If the prices were closer I would justify the packout. They are all very durable. I wish the packout got rid of the aluminum bars and gained that extra space inside.

Every tradesmen needs a good box, I bought the $70 mastercraft box and it was falling apart within the first month. So I decided to buy the packout system and I already love it 3 big boxesthe top is for my screw drivers, drill bits, impact bits, wrenches and my charger with batteries, the next one down is for my drill and impact.

Thanks for the review! I just purchased the medium sized DeWALT due to the few tools I currently have. I plan on getting the whole system as my new addiction to tools takes over 😂

I have the DeWalt Toughsystem 2.0 (all 3 boxes) for Home use of storing my tools. I love it and glad I made the purchase this past summer. The large box also stores my Ryobi tools, batteries, and chargers :)

my problem with the Milwaukee packout is living in the north if I leave them in the back of my truck and it rains and the freezes the boxes are impossible to separate. The Butten to lower the handle has got very stiff too.

Problem is all these boxes are already heavy empty. Once you load them with tools , it sucks getting them in and out of the van . I like the black UK Milwaukee version better the red is just too flashy and attracts theives

I have the dewalt toughsystem 2.0. I liked it better because the wheels don’t wobble and it rolls so SO smooth. Extremely tough too, the inside doesn’t scratch surprisingly, but i guess that doesn’t matter. Extremely durable, feel confident dropping it off my balcony and it only getting a few scratches and undamaged tools inside.

I'm a dewalt tool guy, but I'm probably going to buy the Milwaukee system for my tools. The dewalt looks cheap and is seriously lacking in options. The Milwaukee looks great and has a ton of different options. Also, if you are going to store the Dewalt system in a small area, you will have to pull it out every time you want to remove a bin because the locks are on the side.

I got the packout organizer and put 3x more than what I thought in it. Pretty happy with the purchase and I’m sure I’ll buy more pieces

Nobody talks about how easier the tough system is to access the bottom or middle boxes when paired with the dolly. And honestly dewalt was first to market, and are kinda married to a design, that Milwaukee had years to improve, and design around. Dewalt could have just came out with a different packout type system,( which isn't of the table) but they decided to try and improve on the design that's been around for 10 years.

I find it Hilarious that Packout people are still lying to them selves that the Packout is better. Truth is you bought it because you think it looks cool. The Packout was rushed and not thought out well at all. I still can't for the life of me see why anyone would by a tool box set that you literally have to remove all the boxes just to get 1 tool from the bottom box. Now. I use the DS carrier as well as the garage, van/trailer racking system. So that is never an issue for me. Even the tstak I own I put the drawers on the bottom and never need to be removed. Sure Milwaukee/China finally came out with drawers. And an ignorant wall mount. Who is the world would want to hang their boxes sideways? Again Not thought out. Let's also bring up the 6 areas of connection he mentions for the Milwaukee/China boxes. If you own them you know how those 6 points get caught up in everything. And that price tag? Ridiculous. China is screwing Americans and they eat it up. lol Let's talk about that Milwaukee/China dolly. Made entirely from plastic. Seriously? Let's also mention Milwaukee/China just has their normal boxes. While DeWALT gives option. This guy in the video mentions DeWALT doesn't have much for accessories. DeWALT has far more to offer then anyone. Between the Tough system and Tstak. I can tell you from experience after a while of lugging the tough system, Packout in and out, in and out. Guys are lugging these big boxes around a lot less then when they first bought them. While the Tstak has taken over for me because I can bring in a ton of things in a smaller foot print. While I leave my tough system in the trailer where it lives to store tools and supplies I don't use that often. Each box can slide out for easy access. The comparison between Milwaukee/China and DeWALT boxes is laughable. There is no comparison and there is no debate. People who do the research buy the Tough system. People who buy crap because they think it looks cool buy the Packout. It's that simple. Either you buy the company who does it first or you buy from the company that copies everyone else. Either you are into supporting American companies or you are into supporting Chinese companies. This was an easy choice for me.

It is unclear to me.....how many points of contact are on the tough system?

Dewalt FTW, it's free with the tool kits I bought!! Plus I like it better also. More storage space. Not a silly setup

The packout has absolutely killed it. They are by far and away better. They didn't even need a second try like Dewalt. Happy Holidays.

As just a DIY I was planning on getting some dewalt boxes cause they're cheaper...but the packout is just too cool not to get lol

I just got me the hart stack from Walmart which is much smaller than these but it's also pretty nice if you don't need anything big. You will be surprised at some of the similarities with some of those. I'm really liking it a lot.

The packout came out long after Dewalt made their tough system and their T stack system so Milwaukee had an idea to improve upon, I have had my 1.0 system since 2012 and they are durable as hell with a metal dolly that allows the middle or bottom box to be removed with no issues it is a great option. I will give the packout dues for innovation and that people can 3d print some cool shit but the Dewalt system was very under represented in this comparison unfortunately. Some people don't need the flash and for the price they aren't going to go wrong with Dewalt... I do wish Dewalt would release more of their ideas to north america and for store sales instead of just online. Dewalt and pretty much every other brand will have to severely step it up to match Milwaukee innovation or be left in the dust.

As soon you take milwaukee boxes out in the real world, and get them duty with sand rocks, dirt, mud, that's went you realized that 14 points of contact are no such good idea anymore.. And Milwaukee's doors won't stay open by it selfs, DeWalt doors does.. Dewalt 2.0 is where I stay..

I am a declared big fan of dewalt but, in this case, I would choose the Milwaukee.

Team DeWALT here. Only thing that keeps me from jumping ship to Milwaukee is the price. I love their ideas and tools but they're expensive as hell.

Thanks for this comparison. In the future I would like to see some American standard for heavy duty containers like "Festool Systainer" standard that is in use by Festool, Makita, HiKoki (Hitachi Koki), Mafell.

As always, Dewalt innovates and comes out with the new only for Milwaukee to look at, study, and figure out how to improve on Dewalts model. Always a step behind. TEAM DEWALT

Recently switched from packout back to my makita system. The packout boxes are so wide I hate having to be concious of damaging property when its finished or in the process of being finished. Many a door jam have had close encounters with me 😅

Thank you for video. DeWalt has a lot more options than what's shown here - including a DS Rack, half systems, organizers, drawers, and fabric bags/packs.

Merry Christmas to ALL, thank you to you and your wife!

I bought the Dewalt 1st gen tough system and the TStak 2 system complete with carts instead of the Milwaukee. I like to support our US business once in a while instead of China product all the time! Milwaukee need to start making product here in US for there expensive tools. Merry Christmas bud!🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍👍👍

Merry Christmas!! I like the tough system Personally. Thanks for the review.

Packout is still the king. All hail Millwaukee, lol

I just returned Dewalt and got Milwaukee after watching this video. Milwaukee Is 10x better quality and function IMO. Sturdy, rolls better, build quality and design so much better. More options. Dewalt was definitely nice but i wanted the best if i was gonna spend $400 on a system

DeWalt and Makita are fighting for Second place. Milwaukee is just killing it

Played around with the milwaukee paxkout boxes at the store, binded up, took 15 minutes to take back apart

That is what sucks about packout is the way it locks in it can be a pain in the ass to take apart, my friend has the packout and removed the locking mechanism so it stays on with the cleats just fine I have the tough system 1 and I never lock it stays on just fine

So hard to decide. Was going with the DeWalt, but i reconsider because i think i can attach a rope and pull the packout onto a roof. The tough system can work though with the dolly. In a way i want the DeWalt bc with dewalt i never felt a need to collect. Milwaukee awakens the Smeigle insdie of me

I so love my pack out that I feel like I don’t want to use it coz it’s gonna get dirty hahaha 🤪

The guy in the Milwaukee hat on and zero tools says the packout is better???? You don’t say!

Im a dewalt user and my boss is a milwuakee user with the a packout box. The only thing stopping me from getting the toughsystem 2.0 is that, the milwuakee packout box has the metal bar at the bottom front of the box to help my boss lift the boxes all together from the bottom while he is in the truck.. i wish the dewalt 2.0 has this feature😅

the problem with both these systems is that when we need get inside any other box rather the one on the top, those boxes above have to be removed, which is unpractical. boxes with a drawer system should be incorporated.

One thing to keep in mind the dewalt lid can open up all the way when connected to the bottom box

Milwaukee is better, I have both set ups but when I look at the bottom of my Milwaukee I do NOT see 13 points of anything holding them together. I agree the Milwaukee is a little better but 13 bro? WTFE! Milwaukee has 2 slide tracks in the back and one lock in the front, thats 3 locking points, 1 more than Dewalt with only 2. Those little feet on the bottom of the Milwaukee are nice but they don't hold anything together. js

As an auto tech these are not useful in my field. But as a homeowner I decided to go with Dewalt Tstak, mostly because of cost, also Tstak is compatible with Craftsman Versastack and if you shop around you can get very good deals on line.

The pack out is miles ahead imo Worth the money if you’re wondering

Merry Christmas eve mct. I like the tough system because I have found them to be cheaper. I just got the dealt 12v screwdriver extreme and its awesome!

For the money , I went DeWalt 2.0 , all I need is a way to store and move my tools. I don't need all those little Gimmicky boxes .....

The dewalt van racking system is great, in regards to the wheels there is a different trolley with bigger wheels

Nice review. Oh and the 2 storage containers in the Dewalt aren't in right they don't move around like that

Good comparison Dave. The BiG advantage DeWalt has is the pricing. DeWalt had the best deals this Holiday season, hands down. I think they did good job with the 2.0, and it’s my understanding they’re gonna be offering / adding more to the Tough System. Milwaukee still seems to be leaving everybody behind on product releases and development. Big thumbs up. That Mega stack you had going on with the Packout almost didn’t fit in frame! 😲😳😲😁😀😂🤣😂👍👍👍✌🏻😁🇺🇸

I like the Milwaukee pack out system I just can’t stand it it only comes in red wish it was offered in other colours

The packout is so nice but out of my price range since I wouldn't use them daily. Thinking about the Ridgid system. Not as nice by far but the price is much better to me.

I has Milwaukee Packout, CLC Bucket organizer and other less known systems but the very best is SORTIMO.... I love DeWalt Accesories, I love Hilti and Bosch tools, i love only Packout of Milwauke but in organization nothing compares to SORTIMO.

Milwaukee sure knows how to sell to people. Them Chinese don’t play

The Red ones are too gimmicky. Just give it time it will reveal. Too many boxes with all of the "neat" little trays and cute boxes inside becomes a hassle. Sure it's organized but it's not efficient. Keep it simple. YMMV and I wish you the best of luck.

The 2.0 bottom chest is quite a bit better than the one in the vid. I have it and have no complaints. Great review Merry Christmas sir.

What’s the warranty on the packout? 1 year bs a life time warranty on the DeWalt. How about a non biased comparison?

Ooo it is very very nice!!! I like TSTAK 2 DeWalt.👍 Dave thanks for the video!

The entire reason for purchasing one of these units instead of purchasing Sortimo or Tanos is because of their toughness and IP rating. So that we’re now talking about IP rating which means that you’re going to have the system out in weather and harsh conditions. The multiple points of contact that you were so thrilled with not only take away an option of how to carry the units, but also serve to collect water and snow and if you live in a desert a great place to store sand and dirt. How upset would you be if someone carried their packout into your van and then went just to go retrieve their phone or tablet out of the Packout and dumped Job site debris, sand, dirt and/or water all over the inside of your van? I love that you brought up coolers because both the soft cooler and the hard cooler for the Packout are personal sized, whereas you can get the tough system cooler in the same size as the large box which means in hot climates like the one I live in you not only can carry your own beverages but can also carry hydration for everyone in your crew, it is also bright yellow instead of black so it’s easily identifiable. Let’s talk about where you actually store the boxes. Both have a rolling cart. The packout has a dolly for working on the finals of a project or in an industrial setting. Both have a trolley/carrier (toughsystem has more metal components) Tough system has job boxes for being able to store your tools with your materials. Tough system has DOT for safe vehicle transportation. Tough system has shop storage that allows for easy access to the boxes no matter what orientation they are in. Did you not perform a Google search of what is available in the Toughsystem before filming this video? You are missing one of the most important toughsystem boxes in my opinion, because both systems have an open top box, Toughsystem has one with a handle to make it easy to carry around the job site with materials needed for a specific task that can change throughout the day. In your subscriptions you should maybe add some deck builders out in the Pacific Northwest not just a guy who works in air condition retail environments in and around Philadelphia. Less professional wrestling hysteria and more insightful information.😉

How well does all those points of contact work, when they are filled with mud and clay like some construction sites are?

Dewalt is coming out with whole lot more coming out soon

Yes but there's also a considerable price difference between the two. I think most professionals understands the difference. At the end of the day you get what you pay for.

This was a very thorough review and helped me decide! Thank you!

Tim from Canada I hope one day you do the Husky soft bag tote it is the same thing as you were doing but in a softer bag version .. next time you’re at Home Depot maybe look them over see what you think... I want to get to Milwaukee but in Canada that’s $ 299 Canadian and up husky soft version bags just like you’re doing $..129 and up just something to look at the next time you’re at Home Depot maybe you can look at the Husky soft bags and see if they’re worth doing a video like this on just a suggestion

This guy complains there's only 2 points of contact on the dewalt then complains that the milwaukee is too hard to detach🤡 Also learn some engineering, just because there more points of contacts doesn't mean it's better. Why do you think the webs of W beams are taller than they are thicker? The fact this guy doesn't even have the boxes filled up makes you question if this guy actually uses these things.

I got the tough system 2.0 and the bottom box has places on top that holds water then when it opens it dumps the water right into the box

Dudes wearing a Milwaukee hat, and I’m supposed to believe this isn’t sponsored? Can I get a REAL review please… damn….

Packout is just back there laughing at the Toughsystem.

I think I might still get the dewalt as I do not have a home depot near me(only lowes) and I'm just now building my tool supply and going to trade school.

If you don't mind the DeWalt tough system 1.0 you can get the ds450 rolling box for $59.00 +tax and free shipping get the same ds130 $29.00 free shipping from home Depot as well or get the ds150 small box with air valve better storage capabilities for same price I paid for extra large . I was able to find the extra large box for $44.00 + tax on amozon free shipping and I forgot to mention they had the crate at $29 also on home Depot website ship to you at least in my area that only available online but I'm not sure if some stores may have some stock available left because of the 2.0 and also a bit of information the extra large box the large box and I think the ds-150 you look at the latches they're screwed in unlike the ds450 those are made in Israel and like Vince said at vcg construction I did the Milwaukee packout is also made in Israel by keter the ds-130 is made in USA with global material so that one doesn't count they also make the ridgid stacking box as well as the husky And I'm sure they make the hart version from Wally's world lol 🤣😆

A few notes for my opinion: 1. The TS-2.0's latches is too hard and onerous for long distance use. Milwaukee did a far better work with it. 2. Comparing Dewalt's system to their previous system, you can certainly see some of the changes they made with clear "inspiration" from the Packout. 3. Dewalt just can't compete the smoothness & versatility of the Packout. 4. Dewalt's system, at the moment, is only a nice alternative for those who do not want to invest in a budget for Packout(and even then I'll would recommend to check the RIDGID system).

Nice ang beautiful packout.

Ultimately, if you want to spend more money and get a superior product, go for the Packout. If you don't really care about quality and functionality go with Tough system. Nuff said

Merry Christmas Dave!

Thirteen points of contact but held on by one clip...

Down the road they have more for the 2.0. There are videos on KZfaq before Covid at trade shows showing covers for yellow trays, and different add-ons/boxes. Packout has "the lead" for now.....(cue ominous music)

7 points of contact is an overkill. 2 is way more then enough. I’ve had my dewalt system for the past year and nothing has come close to being un done. Something that’s not mentioned in this video that dewalt absolutely kills Milwaukee, is when you get it to your car or shop. You can put Milwaukee on top of each other but what happens if you need the bottom box? You have to take everything off. The tough system has an awesome and clean way to put your tool boxes away on a dewalt rack system. If you need a box on the bottom you don’t need to remove ten boxes from the top. You can just pull one box from the bottom. Also keep in mind that theirs allot more storage boxes that dewalt has that aren’t featured in this video.

merry christmas to all man cavers !!!

Merry Christmas 🎅 🎄

Merry Christmas 🎅 and great review Dave

Excellent review overall. I'm still really unclear on the differences in the points of contact, though.

Thanks for sharing. The milwaukee system, can the middle lid (or lower bin lid) open while stacked?

No fleshlight attachment no deal!

Great video bro. Love the channel.

I like 👍 Merry Christmas Dave 🌲⛄

Milka - made by KETER

You think you’ll ever buy any worm drive saws? You should make a video with Milwaukee, Dewlat, and Makita.

Milwaukee bulky as hell. Don’t even fit in my work truck

Dewalt has the same thing you just don't have it, you failed to show the dewalt 2 drawer , 3 drawer, clear organizer, half system, inside trays , you miss the boat on this video, you shouldn't compare with only one brand having more, bad comparison.

Only thing tough system 2.0 has on packout (for the time being) are the internal trays

I got toughsystem 2 for Christmas. I like it but I think I would have liked packout a little bit more. But I’m not one for trading our Christmas gifts unless I absolutely have to.

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Dewalt: look at me! I'm 3 crates tall. I rock (MCT roles out the 9 stack Packout) Packout: Pfft...little man Dewalt: LOL Thanks MCT and Happy Holidays!

Great video thanks

I wish Dewalt made those tool bags like Milwaukee

How many points of contact on the dewalt?

Merry Christmas brother🙏

Is dewalt toughsystem 2.0 compatible with dewalt power station

Merry Xmas eve