There is no way to adequately express how amazing it to keep coming back to 10 percent true and have it exceed your expectations EVERY TIME. Thank you Steve.

Flew w Paco at 59th @ Eglin after he left Tonopah. One of the funniest MoFo's and best aviators on the planet...certainly the best Eagle BFMer I ever saw...great guy

How very interesting he said that a well flown A4 was the toughest opponent and this from a man who clearly has a shed load of experience.

I want to hear more about Paco, this is one of the best interviews you've done. Thanks.

I hope and pray our pilots are still trained this way at this level. Thank you for your service.

I really don't understand how this channel doesn't have at least a million subs. It's actually quite mind-blowing that this isn't the most popular military aviation podcase. The absolute gold standard in my opinion.

That was AWESOME! Classic Paco! thanks Boss and Steve for sharing your time and stories.

this is such a great interview. Working my way through all your videos now. Great work.

This was fantastic, Paco is such a good interviewee.

34:33 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I’m dying over here!!!!! Paco is one of the best story-tellers of all time. Hilarious! “You speak perfect English."

Was an absolutely incredible experience. Was there from 81-85 as GCI flight commander. Paco was one of many unique "characters" in this program.

About the best Interview out the hundred I have listened to. Informative, funny, great interview and interviewee... Thanks for your time making these videos....

Great interview, really fun to listen to these stories

Awesome interview, Paco entertaining as always. Really wished I'd been up fo the live feed. I'd have been dissapointed if I didn't hear the "Hat full" quip, but there were so many other "Paco-isms". In my 4 ops tours in the Eagle, with 11 different commanders, some great (Jumbo Wray, Bubba New, Gork Gorenc, Turk Hess), my time in the Gorillas with Paco as the commander, and the assmeblage of tactical prowess in that squadron was seminal. And he got us out to Nellis for the final Constant Peg! Should be no doubt in anyone's mind that the 58EFS, and the Crows and Lions that contributed in Desert Shield/Storm, was the Fighter Squadron that Paco built. Probably not so politically correct today, but Paco embodied the fighter pilot ethos and the weapons officer creedo that influenced all members of the Gorillas, and I think ultimately led to the sucess of the squadron in Desert Storm. It was a pleasure and a privelige to serve with Paco.

This is really fascinating. Thanks again, Steve & Paco.

I was a Bunyap (7th Fighter Sqdn, 49th Fighter Wing) in the late ‘80’s with the F-15’s at Holloman AFB. Later, I moved over to the Flying Knights (9th FS) just before the F-117’s arrived, when they deactivated and then reactivated the Tonopah squadrons (9th became the 415th). Then later again, they reverted back to the 7th, 8th, and 9th. For some reason, they changed Flying Knights to Iron Knights. I did a custom Bunyap poster for the 7th, which was on the wall at the squadron. Somebody “claimed” it for themselves when they deactivated. Wish I knew were it was.

What another cool episode! Very well done to both of you! Had a good laugh on the intruder handling, fine flights and line badge fun! Interesting info on the satellite overflights as well. Somewhat a repeat of your book but boy, it's so great to hear it first hand. You need get more Eagles interviewed...another vote for Tom Morgenfeld to combine the Migs, Senior Trend, YF-22 crash etc.

Terrific interview, Paco is such a character. I've watched or listened to nearly every video/podcast that 10 Percent True has done, and they are all excellent. Thank you for giving such enjoyment to a fascinating topic.

Very interesting interview. What a character.

I was at TTR 85-88, on the black jets. I saw the FINI flight that came from behind the VIP's between the hangars from the runway side of the 117 hangars, I tell everyone about that! Awesome! The sonic booms were relentless, but it prepared me for my next assignment at Edwards, I hardly noticed them. When I was an Air Force Brat in the 60's at March AFB, they broke the sound barrier over public areas all the time, I was missing it.

Have not read all the comments but I think you should do a Mig-23/ 27 pilot interview. Love your podcasts. Thanks

So excited to fly this campaign !

He sounds just like a truck driver talkin ‘bout moving a big ol’ rig around, but that’s a great interview on air combat!

Great subject and interview

Enjoyed this, thanks guys

Fastest 2hrs ever. Awesome interview

Fantastic show!!

Great interview, thanks!

Another amazing oral history with another airpower legend. Thanks Steve!

Great job as usual Steve. PM me as I’d like to discuss Bunyap’s DCS program and how to possibly re-create a few Red Eagle engagements from both sides. Awesome job. Thanks Paco.

How did I not find this video until now? So going to buy this campaign - I read two books on the Red Eagles, one is called Red Eagles (surprise) the other one is called Mig Squadron.....the guys who went out and flew these Migs (some of which had quite qustionable ejections seats) had balls the size of small moons! Luckily in DCS our ejection seats work! Edit: I hope Paco does not play DCS multiplayer as I think he would crush me in my F-5E (not very interesting, but at an online event a squadron mate and I shot down 2 F-16s, we had a human GCI, and were very very low down south in Syria and were vectored towards 2 F-16s, they were on a ground attach mission and they made a big turn right in front of us and presented their tails, our AA-2s said - "yes please". I am sure the F-16 pilots were angry! But overall I die whenever I get in a dogfight with the Mig-21.

By the way, I was a Bunyap at Holloman in the AT-38 after the Eagles left and before the 117s took over the lower numbers. Loved the Devil Bunnys!

The Lt. perfect english story might be the funniest thing ever! Paco needs to write a book

I was Intelligence Liaison for 3 of the Aggressor Squadrons from '80-84, and involved in the Constant Peg program. The highlights of my 23 years in the USAF! He mentioned Jack Manclark. I knew Jack Manclark when we were with the Aggressors.

I was in the CoonAss and got to fly against the Eglin guys in the F100 and the F4. Some great memories, and some terrific fights in Eagle G.

Great show

This is the 2nd time I listened to this.

Great episode. Never met Paco, but he was a legend in the F-15 world.

@1:58:00 Paco's badass story of turning upside down his Mig-21, nose pointed to the ground and just going 750 knots! Steve, can you please ask Paco next time he's around, if he could go a little more in depth as to how exactly he felt and was going on in his mind as he flipped that MiG, nose pointed to the ground and just SPEED. Damn.. thanks for these conversations Steve

very entertaining , better then watching top gun. reality always better then fiction.

Just fantastic!! Thank You!

35:35 sooooooooooooo funny ,I couldn't stop laughing ,amazing story from first person view ! Greetings from Poland ,love your channel...

I served with Paco in the 405th Tac Training Wing at Luke AFB years ago. A great guy and a great American!

Steve, I really wish you would have asked Paco if he ever had an engagement (in the Mig) in which he had his ass handed to him by one of the visiting pilots. He only alluded that the A-4M and Hornet were tough.

outstanding yet again.. Red Eagles: America's Secret MiGs was a great book as well. when will there be an audio version?

I saw PLENTY of those 21s at PS-66 from 85-87 and the 23s would IFE in ALL the time! Lots of Sonic Booms and ALWAYS a 38 chasing them! I was a 117 crew chief and flew at night and they would ONLY fly during the day! They could go home every day and we stayed at least Monday- Friday morning!

MiG21 we called F5's, 23's were referred to as F4's. 23's were leaky bruisers given to biting crew chiefs due to their low profile. The ejection systems in both were dicey.

Please more of Paco

I do have the patch of Red Eagles 4477 from a friend.

Hi Steve, is there a reason this brilliant episode isn’t available on the Podcast channel? Is it because it was a live-stream? Cheers.

Really enjoyed that some great stories I take it he wasn’t a fan of the Mig 23 😆

42:03 LOL

Old school " real man " type fighter pilot .

I don't know what he means by "F7" versus "Mig21" is F7 a varient of Mig21? which variant is that? Great interview. I found it :Chengdu J-7

I just wonder what Paco would have thought of the EEL. If the Mig 21 was a toy Hot Rod the EEL was a fully aerobatic capable Hot Rod.

Good Show Paco ! DrJ...Todd Zejdlik 65thAS

Another outstanding interview. It’s a crying shame that Paco didn’t get to lead the 58th into battle. Military place and time, but just damn. Judging by their performance, he had them honed to a very sharp edge. Very much looking forward to flying the DCS campaign.

I can just imagine the language over the airwaves from Paco's cockpit after having his ass handed to him by a Buccaneer pilot at Red Flag !

LOL on the Flogger comments. Old School Fighter pilot right there - drinking a martini during the interview!

Rob Zettel ! Wow. We should chat

What wrong with the MU-2?

If Paco was a B-52 guy he'd be like Maj Kong.... cheers.

Paco comes off as a dumb jock which can be limiting career wise. Maybe not needed for the top pentagon job, but absolutely needed as the point of the spear. Fighter pilots need to be aggressive Type A but not reckless.. As an egg-head sometimes he sort of grates me but If war ever came to pass I'd want him leading and hope that his subordinates mirror his personality.