Thank you so much! I understand what you mean because I even got lost in my first version of the sheet hahaha! But the coloring definitely helps me to see the differences without needing to look too hard.

It’s interesting you bring up carrots because I was looking into production times (and I’m not super confident in my calculations for this) but it looks like seeded carrots make the most money per hour if you’re looking for speed. It’s so amazing how much depth gardening has!!! Thanks for the amazing conversations man!

what do you mean by "nerfed"?

Nerfed is when something is made worse. So in this case they could reduce how much the crops sell for resulting in a "nerf".

​@@Aqajjgotcha, thanks!

You’re very welcome!

Thank you so much! I hope it is able to help you in your Palia journey!

It definitely is, I wasn't going to bother even checking on the festival seeds because of all the decorations I'd rather spend my tickets on. Now I'm going straight to buy some bok choy @@Aqajj

Thank you for the kind words and I’m glad you enjoyed it! I will definitely keep making Palia videos!

Thank you so much! Glad you liked it!

Hahah Me Too! Thanks for watching the video and subscribing!!

You might want to take another look because Bok Choy makes 4 seeds per crop. You could be confusing it with the Napa Cabbage that produces 6 seeds per crop. And I appreciate the kind words!

You’re very welcome! Palia is a nice game with the ability to go all in on maximizing everything or the option to lay back and take things at your own pace!

Sweet! I can’t wait to hear your harvest results!

Yeah, this setup will take a bit of time to water if you don't have the later tier watering cans. But once you get them, you will be earning a ton of money! Thanks for watching the video!

I replant as soon as the crops are ready. So harvest and immediately replant.

@@Aqajj thanks mate sounds good. Gunna be using this for awhile. Would love to see a 'all cooking crops pattern' video ;)?

For how to sell every type of crop I recommend looking at the colorful chart in the video. Darker Green means better but for the crops in this layout, everything goes in the seeders.

Thank you! I must have missed that ♥@@Aqajj

Yes, so rice and wheat are only sold as seeds so that is the best option for them. To replant the layout you need 55 Bok choy, 14 rice, and 12 wheat seeds. :)

@@Aqajj thank you very much ;)

What I do is as soon as the crop is ready to harvest I grab it and put down the exact same seed type in its place. That way the profit per day is always at its maximum rate. Good question!

Thanks for the quick response!@@Aqajj

I'm a little confused by the first part. If you were to create it on the garden planner and tag me with it in the palia discord I'd take a look at it. As for your second part, these numbers are profit after putting it in the seed maker not taking into account how long it take to process as it depends on how often you play. When I was running this back in february I had about 18-20 seed makes and playing 3-5 hours a day was a really good pace to keep up with the output. Let me know if this answered your questions or let me know if you need any other explaining. Thanks for watching and leaving your thoughts, I have a new spreadsheet coming out eventually that goes way more in depth on this topic.

@@Aqajj As in you have 3 by 3 plots. What if you rearranged them into a different shape instead of a 3x3 big square and instead went into two rows of 4 plots and 5 plots respectively. Would that allow for better combinations? I don't understand the match as well as you all do, so was more wondering why the 3x3 works better than the 2 rows of 4 and 5 plots.

It’s currently only shared in my discord since it’s not super public. But if you are really interested it is available.

Sadly, my discord list is currently full but thanks for the response!

Which ones don’t? Double check that it’s planted right since it has 100% harvest boost

There is a link in the discord since it isn't super public, but if you want to dive into it, it's there.

But but but…..I added pretty colors to it 😂😂😂 and seriously thank you so much for watching, I hope you found it useful!

@@Aqajj Very,very Useful! Was wondering how everyone was going to adjust to the new crops and new wild herb spawns.

Depends on your level if you’d want to put quality up fertilizer on them. If you want to do weed prevention or water retain for easier farming that’s another option. However it will lower your profits. Up to you, I personally don’t really use fertilizer.

The “Adjusted Profit” section of the chart is just to compare profits between different crops with different sized tiles. It doesn’t affect the seed vs preserve comparison for each crop. I’d love to hear your thoughts on why you think the preserves are better for Bok choy.

Mostly because i misunderstood the adjusted profit and also because in straight sell value preserves sell at a greater profit compared to crops. However, I suppose the benefit of selling bok choy as seeds is due to the 1 for 4 ratio. Which would mean one crop would sell for 22x4? At least that's my reasoning lol

Yeah, looking at face value of each at 1 unit can be deceiving.

I haven't completed any research into whether or not there is a layout which produces more profit by using the harvest boost fertilizer however if you have a ton of extra harvest boost fertilizer and want to start by just farming bok choy in all 81 slots, that would generate more revenue until you run out of fertilizer. Also I believe it would take 243 fertilizer per harvest cycle to get a 100% success rate of the harvest boost on the bok choy.

oh ill give it a go! i should have enough, thank you! @@Aqajj

@@Aqajj Reporting back. I planted Star Bok Choy seeds on all tiles + enough Harvest Boost Fertilizer to get through all the days (they all still had fertilizer left when I harvested). I ended up harvesting 243 star Bok Choys + 7 star Bok Choy seeds. The Bok Choys alone totaled 10,935

Yes, all crops sell better when you seed/preserve them. It just depends on the crop for which machine you put them in.

The update to the worm farms doesn’t affect this and the prices of crops didn’t change so everything should work as expected still.

The only things changed with gardening were the apples/blueberries and the worm farms so this should still be good! I’ll be using it again on stream in a week now that the gold cap has been raised.

You buy it from Delilah’s Sweet Shop at the Maji Market currently.

@@Aqajj thanks!! :)

This layout only has a harvest boost buff.

@Aqajj got ya. Also, this helped so much thank you for the breakdown!

That's what I noticed, too. I sure wasn't making the kind of profits I do with apple preserves, even using the same farm layout as he does.

This is a really good question! Yes, this and every layout is "potential" profit based on how you play the game but let's dive into the philosophy of this layout. The limiting factor in the game right now is the number of plots you can own (I'm not sure if there is a limit to crafters yet). Since that is the limiting factor that is what I am maximizing. Now yes, if you played Palia 24/7 with no sleeping and no life responsibilities getting in the way sure, there is a very slim chance you'd be able to keep up with this layout's earnings. But you have to think that seeders work for a long time even when you're not playing. So, if we are able to plant the best crop and even if it grows really fast sure it might just be stored in our chest for a long time but eventually we will get the payout of the 5,500 with almost no time put into the game. The 5,500 can technically be classified as "per hour grown" instead of a constant per hour because yes the seeds take a long time to process. But think about this like investments. If we work really hard for 6 hours to grow and harvest a bunch of crops, sure you wont immediately see 11,000 in your inventory, but with minimal work over the next day, you will. Meanwhile someone focusing on maximizing per process time is maybe making 13,000 but they have to put way more time into the game to keep the process going. Let me know if you've still got questions, this is how we improve!

What kind of profits were you seeing with this layout HeadHunter? And how did it compare to the apple preserves? I'd love to hear about your data :D

Okay, and I forgot about the "can I keep up with the production" question for me. I currently have about 20 seeders and with the extra offline time yes, I have been keeping up pretty well making about 100,000 the past week.

@@Aqajj I was only seeing about 1560 gold per day. Selling preserves might take a few days but I made far more money in the long run. I don't have specific numbers but it was a significant difference. Apple trees may take more space but it seems that their yield over their time to harvest ends up with a more profitable crop - and it's a lot more "hands off" as well. Not saying the bok choy seed idea is bad, I just wasn't seeing much income for the work.

I haven’t attended any cake parties yet and don’t do much cooking but if I do and come up with a good layout I’ll share it for you. :)

Once you plant it once, just harvest each crop type 1 by 1 and you don’t have to remember anything. I might make a video going over planting the layout if you’re interested.

I believe you get one now when you reach level 10 but you can always buy more from the gardening guild store by speaking with Badruu and spending some skill medals.

As far as I know there has not been an update to seed prices, what prices went down?

@@Aqajj ahhh nevermind i see where i messed up, just to confirm, you turn all the crops into seeds to then sell right (- ones to replace)

Some crops get turned into preserves while still seeding a few of those for replanting. The ones that sell better as seeds all get turned into seeds and you can sell the excess that you didn’t replant. And yes, the seed selling amounts get confusing since it’s not 1 to 1.

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You’re very welcome! Enjoy the big boost in good now!

While I agree that someone in the early game will have a hard time running this setup optimally, even selling the extra bok choy as regular crops nets you some of the highest gold rates in gardening. So even if someone new doesn’t have many crafters they can still make a ton of money. Video with the data comes out this Sunday June 9th!

@Aqajj that's very true! Even with all my seeders I sell quite a bit of the bok choy raw haha

Yeah, I have the exquisite watering can and even then you only have to water every two hours. So it doesn’t take up much time for me. But potatoes are still good money and help with water so it’s all good!

also we should sell the seeds?

Yes, if you refer to the colorful chart you’ll see that the best method of selling these crops if by seed. Also, here is the planner: palia-garden-planner.vercel.app/?layout=v0.2_DIM-111-111-111_CROPS-BkRWBkBkBkRBkBk-BkBkBkBkRBkBkWBk-WRBkBkBkBkBkBkR-WBkRBkBkWBkBkR-BkBkBkBkBkBkBkRBk-RBkWWBkBkRBkBk-RBkBkWBkBkBkBkR-BkWBkBkBkBkWBkW-BkBkRBkBkWRBkBk Holy Moly it’s a long link 😂😂

I don’t really use fertilizer too much to know a lot about how it works in terms of results but if I was going to choose one I would choose the quality boost (QualityUp I think it’s called) to increase your chance of getting quality crops until you reach level 25. Or if you really don’t like the small amount of upkeep required you can go for the water retain/weed prevention ones.

@@Aqajj thank you so much❤️

I haven't done much research into the amount that the worms produce. I'll have to take a look into that and see what the increase would be.

Ok, so after some quick data crunching, it looks like if you were to plant 73 Bok choy and 8 potatoes you could increase profits by 0.6%. But you must pickle the potatoes before going into the glow worm farm. This would be sustainable however I think it would stop working if you harvest the layout too quickly. Not sure it’s exactly worth it for all of the extra effort though.

Thnx for calculating now i kno w its not worth it.. great content. Much greetings from holland

Yes

Thanks for the info! I haven’t done much research into how much profit the work bins can make but this definitely makes me want to test it out and see if there is an improvement! If I find anything useful I’ll see about making a video for it.

Processing preserves through worm bins generates more funds at the end, but at the cost of additional time, which reduces your overall profits in the end. For instance, starred apple jam yields 144 gold in 76 minutes (1.895 gold per minute), and while running it through the glow worm farm yields 155 gold between the worms and the fertilizer, it takes 136 total minutes, reducing your income to 1.14 gold per minute. So, would you rather earn 1.90 gold per minute, or 1.14? Seems like an easy answer.

I encourage you to put a star quality Bok choy in a seeder and see what the value of all the items that come out after 1.2 hours. I think you will learn a lot!

Each Bok Choy crop is worth 4 Bok Choy seeds when they come out of the seed harvester. So they're worth 60 gold each, not 22.

There is a chapter going over the best layout about 2/3 of the way into the video. Everything is discussed and the layout is clearly shown. Maybe give it another watch. You’re welcome!