Overview of the Panasonic DMP-BD70V Blu-Ray / VHS player. more info at ancientelectro...
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@videomaster85808 жыл бұрын
This is great. What we really need is a VHS/DVD/BLU-RAY/LASER DISC/CED-DISC/BETAMAX COMBO PLAYER!
@KamiKitsuneVA7 жыл бұрын
That would never happen. Unfortunately, it seems like physical media is being replaced these days T-T
@Narayan_19967 жыл бұрын
But she'll never die, I'm sure about it
@sneff2127 жыл бұрын
Video Master Indeed!
@warnerbrosanddisneyvhsdvdb90156 жыл бұрын
Video Master that will be cool
@someguy48536 жыл бұрын
Add Muse LaserDisc and DVHS as well.
@vwestlife8 жыл бұрын
That VCR with a component video output was probably a Digital VHS (D-VHS) VCR. The actual video signal recorded onto regular analog VHS tape is composite video. So having an S-Video output on a VCR playing a regular VHS tape just means that the VCR is doing the comb filtering instead of your TV. And depending on the quality of your TV, it may do a better job of it than the VCR, so you might actually get better quality using the VCR's composite output than its S-Video output. (Except when playing Super VHS tapes, in which case the VCR will provide true S-Video quality, because the S-VHS format records S-Video onto the tape.)
@Zestypanda8 жыл бұрын
Why don't you ever comment on my videos?
@warnerbrosanddisneyvhsdvdb90156 жыл бұрын
VWestlife what next VCR/4k Ultra combo
@jonnyv6245 жыл бұрын
But this VCR doesn't have a S-Video output, it has component.
@lawline45082 жыл бұрын
@@Zestypanda did VWestlife comment
@bsanchez3563 Жыл бұрын
Yah those dvhs systems also have an hdmi port fwiw for at least 2 of the jvc model ones for dtheater
@Progamer-rn4dc7 жыл бұрын
i still have a really old Panasonic VCR the good thing is its still running
@RoundenBrown4 жыл бұрын
I've got a Panasonic VCR from 2002 myself.
@Daniel280219917 жыл бұрын
Wow that pretty cool, I never seen a VHS and a blurayplayer together.
@Dog-Lover363 жыл бұрын
The last standalone VCR and HD-DVD player was manufactured during 2008. Sony introduced the first Ultra 4K TV and Blu-Ray player four years later.
@FIetch20028 жыл бұрын
Who came here from Vwestlife?
@armanelgtron45338 жыл бұрын
+Samoyed Gaming I dunno, who did?
@stephens50938 жыл бұрын
I did
@DOGMAN2013225 жыл бұрын
I did
@furekmody77497 жыл бұрын
why not a d-vhs/ blu ray combo player
@ritchienavarro29206 жыл бұрын
I HAVE MY PANASONIC BLU RAY VCR COMBO FROM SEPTEMBER 2009 AND IT WORKS FINE AND I STILL HAVE THE ORIGINAL REMOTE CONTROL AND I CONNECTED IT TO MY TCL ROKU TV.
@catlover101927 жыл бұрын
Blu ray really didn't come out far after VHS died at all. The last major releases on VHS and the first releases on Blu Ray happened the same year, 2006.
@AncientElectronics7 жыл бұрын
That may be true but at least from my experience most people had well given up on VHS by that point. Again though, I guess I'm only speaking from personal experience. I worked at a movie rental store back then and by 2006 we hadn't stocked VHS for a few years.
@dominikkadlec45357 жыл бұрын
The last VHS came in 2007, not 2006
@jessyb937 жыл бұрын
Interested in all at selling this player?
@AncientElectronics7 жыл бұрын
I've been tossing the idea around. to be completely honest I don't really use it much but its such a unique item I'm not sure if I want to hold onto it or not.
@RWL20127 жыл бұрын
Actually 2008 in the US and 2004 in the UK
@thenorgalofthehills56888 жыл бұрын
It's weird, But at the same time it's really cool. Old meets new. Plus I like how it allows you to watch your old VHS tapes.
@AncientElectronics8 жыл бұрын
+The Creepernator it's pretty strange. it's a bit of an odd analogy but I don't really think VHS is seen as "retro" like maybe Laserdiscs are. I think their just seen more as obsolete kind of like 8 tracks in the 90's. 8 tracks now days are starting to have a retro appeal and people I think may be looking for 8 track players. I've even seen those all-in-one record/8 track/cassette/cd/mp3 players. I could imagine this thing being made in the future as a novelty device to cash in on VHS retro fever or somthing but when it did come out it was just odd because as I said I don't think VHS has attained that retro status yet.
@jfh4003 жыл бұрын
The Panasonic DMR-ES40V is a VHS/DVD recorder combo which has component output that DOES output the VHS. I have used it many times.
@KrazyJoesConcessionStand4 жыл бұрын
I have that blu-ray /vhs combo unit. It’s my default blu-ray player. I’ve had it since 2009, I think. I bought it new off of amazon. I have the remote too
@jonjonas25285 жыл бұрын
Use your VHS vcr videorecorder and blank VHS tapes to get even with the news media
@darklinggolem7 жыл бұрын
It would made sense if it supports D-Theater
@Zestypanda8 жыл бұрын
Problem with the hdmi on it is that it upscales. Which in some cases can degrade the picture.
@mclaine338 жыл бұрын
Exact opposite with this unit. Yes it upscales but it also has a built in picture correction. Trust me when I say this. When you watch a VHS on this unit via HDMI there is a very noticeable difference in picture quality. No it doesn't look 100% like real 1080p (despite it being output at 1080p) but it definitely look a lot better than what you remember VHS.
@infinitecanadian2 жыл бұрын
I took so many of those apart to recycle them for charity. Knowing how popular they are today, I hate having done so.
@GoldSrc_8 жыл бұрын
Well, that's indeed a pretty weird combo unit. Thanks for sharing it though.
@AncientElectronics8 жыл бұрын
+Gordon Freeman np, thanks for watching. I found it pretty odd myself.
@Zestypanda8 жыл бұрын
The reason why you haven't seen that many is because they were at the end of its lifecycle. one problem that is particular with this one deck is the fact that, along with it locking features features, mainly manual tracking for the VHS , play pause record fast forward rewind controls in the front they're also extremely expensive. This one was probably made around 2009 or 2011, and they typically retailed for about $1,000. now, most people wouldn't pay $1,000 for a DVD slash blu-ray combo, and most people were already facing out VHS. So most people solution would be to get a separate VHS back, and a dedicated Blu-ray DVD player. you be able to have the play pause record function for VHS, and the front traction control, along with having a dedicated Blu-ray DVD player for way under $1,000. It was just a niche market that was already fading. My VHS/DVD combo has the best of both worlds. It has manual tracking, upacale with hdmi, and pure composite signal so I can capture the best 4:3 signal for converting to digital.
@AncientElectronics8 жыл бұрын
+Zestypanda what model is your DVD/VHS player? is it a recorder?
@Zestypanda8 жыл бұрын
+0blivi0n100 I said in my comment that it is. My VHS/DVD combo records both DVD and VHS. It can also dub VHS. The model is a Toshiba dkvr60ku
@AncientElectronics8 жыл бұрын
+Zestypanda huh, I was under the initial impression that decks that upconverted VHS to 1080P were pretty rare but I guess more machines did it then I thought. well the whole Blu-ray/VHS thing is still pretty unique.
@Zestypanda8 жыл бұрын
0blivi0n100 Yes. The blueray combo is more rare. Sorry for all the typos. I was using voice to text.
@thatguyontheright18 жыл бұрын
Only DVD Recorder Combos have Component out for VHS, some can internally bump the resolution up to 480p as well. I am talking about the consumer level.
@jonnyv6245 жыл бұрын
I've been looking at several, but they all seem to have the component labeled for DVD output, while the output labeled for VHS output is composite
@segaretrojoker18873 жыл бұрын
The Panasonic DMR-ES45V outputs to HDMI for BOTH DVD and VHS and is a hell of a lot cheaper. It has way more outputs, it is great for connecting older devices to a modern TV’s, it’s also a DVD recorder, and you can control the entire unit without a remote, both the DVD and VHS player
@gurleyz7 жыл бұрын
Does the VHS picture quality actually improve to high definition quality? Even at 720P if not 1080P? I want one for out of print VHS tapes that will likely never be remastered in higher video quality? Thanks
@AncientElectronics7 жыл бұрын
no. If the source material is SD from my understanding there's no way to just make it HD. What's the saying..."garbage in, garbage out" What it does is upscale it so it looks okay on an HD TV.
@dakota_young_ Жыл бұрын
this video gives me 2007 vibes
@IBrianrish5 жыл бұрын
Hey thank you I had no idea this was a thing I always thought of it you know but never knew it excised but Thank You !!!
@RetroPCUser Жыл бұрын
I'm planning on buying one so my mom can watch either tapes, DVDs, or Blu-Rays on the TV set. I have a pair of DVD recorder/VCR combinations and the one has an integrated ATSC tuner, which died.
@FrederickGuese8 жыл бұрын
I think DVD/VCR combos have component video. Maybe I am wrong.
@FrederickGuese8 жыл бұрын
+Frederick Guese Nevermind..
@AncientElectronics8 жыл бұрын
+Frederick Guese AFAIK most DVD/VHS combo players have component but will only output the VHS signal via s-video at best. I recently read that there are DVD/VHS recorder units that will output the VHS via component but I don't think they upconvert the signal. my DVD/Laserdisc combo machine for instance has component but only if using a DVD. If I want to watch a laserdisc it will only output via s-video or composite.
@jonjonas25285 жыл бұрын
Tell your friends to keep using their vcr videorecorders
@abundantt18 жыл бұрын
That is awesome i need this unit
@AncientElectronics8 жыл бұрын
They are pretty hard to find and I don't think all that many were made. Best advice I have is scour the piles of DVD and VCR players at Goodwill. Even try Craigslist or services like that. They tend to go for a premium on EBay and I've seen them sell for over $200
@mclaine338 жыл бұрын
There were perhaps only a few thousand produced. It was only on the market for about 1 year. 2009-2010. It was sold at its cheapest for like $155. Now they sell for a high premium on EBay. $400-1,000 depending on the condition. I actually bought one from EBay recently for $479. A very expensive purchase but it was well worth it because I needed to convert 100 VHS home movie tapes to digital for my own personal history. I would only recommend buying it if you can find one for $200-300. Don't over pay like I did unless you absolutely need it.
@AncientElectronics8 жыл бұрын
+mclaine33 and to think I almost passed it up because Goodwill wanted somthing like $22 for it.
@mclaine338 жыл бұрын
Yea bro you got it for a steal. What an amazing deal. Seriously it's worth at least $400 now and increasing.
@supermariof05215 жыл бұрын
@@AncientElectronics Question. Do you still have this unit? If so, how does the VHS upscaling look on a 4K TV?
@AlexNewman6554 жыл бұрын
This grat but we are rally need is a VHS/DVD/Bluray/LD/CD/mini-disc/sad combo player.
@jonjonas25285 жыл бұрын
Get the remote fro the vcr from e bay
@RileySkye1007 жыл бұрын
You could always try the HDMI splitter box to disable the HDCP. That's what I do to capture footage from my PS3.
@darkhelmet1698 жыл бұрын
I have a Sony VCR/ DVD Recorder combo that will play VHS tapes over HDMI as well. Still the only one like that I've ever seen.
@jonnyv6245 жыл бұрын
Just out of curiosity, what model VCR / DVD do you have?
@brianb.24686 жыл бұрын
Mine shuts off after like 30 minutes of playing a DVD or Blu Ray, and I'm not sure why. I'm thinking maybe it has something to do with the Power Saver function or some obscure setting?
@dbrazell45 жыл бұрын
My VHS player on this has stopped working. It won’t turn on the VHS part. I do have a remote, and when I select the drive button to switch from VHS to blu Ray, it won’t let me. It says that it’s can not switch because a tape is not inserted. When I try to push the tape in it won’t even take it. Like it doesn’t even register I’m pushing a tape into it.
@Jjunito065 жыл бұрын
Wow you bought this panasonic for only 20 bucks. They sell this exact unit on ebay and amazon from $200 to $400 dollars used.
@AncientElectronics5 жыл бұрын
Goodwill, they don't know any better. to them, it was just one of the tons of VHS combo players they get in every other day. They've got smart to some things like older video games and consoles depending on the manager at the moment and they likely price check stuff like that but anything that looks like a VCR and even DVD/Blu-ray players these days just get a $19.99 sticker and thrown on the shelf.
@jonjonas25285 жыл бұрын
Great video keep using your vcr videorecorder !
@shearer2144 жыл бұрын
Hi all! Anybody know what the music track is called at the end of the video?
@BassGuitarLife7 жыл бұрын
Great buy for $20, would get heaps more for that on ebay second hand
@AncientElectronics7 жыл бұрын
I had no idea it was worth anything when I picked it up. I actually almost passed it up cause I thought $20 was a little pricy. Glad I grabbed it though. I actually don't use it much so I always think about selling it off but its so unique I always just end up deciding to keep it. I did use it recently to transfer some home movies from VHS to digital.
@BassGuitarLife7 жыл бұрын
Also a Logitech Harmony 650 remote that controls up to 5 devices usually works with the VHS / DVD or Blu ray combos as they are still relatively new units (i.e. 10 years old or so) so purchasing 2nd hand without a remote is not a problem. I just checked the DMP-BD70V in the database and its catered for. I recently scored a LG RC389H VHS DVD writer combo from a local recycle centre for $20. It has HDMI out to upscale VHS tape really well and so looks considerably better than s-video out. Also because my unit is one of the last VHS players, when I took the top off to clean the internals and heads it was pretty much immaculate inside as the VHS feature only had little use as most of the time DVD was used. The fact these units were during a technological cross over period and were catering to people that still had some VHS tapes but preferred newer DVD technology, they generally have relatively little VHS use and in good condition. Also with a healthy VHS tape collecting scene developing (e.g. FB VHS tape collector groups etc) all these units with HDMI out, and especially with writer capabilities, are starting to increase in value.
@joeyvlo4 жыл бұрын
6:57 Was wondering if you could rip bluray to vhs. Gonna google and see about machines that can but wondering if you might be able to use a universal remote with that.
@DarkLinkAD8 жыл бұрын
IIRC Ive seen Pirates of the Caribbean on VHS and it looked pretty good.
@AncientElectronics8 жыл бұрын
+DarkLinkAD VHS can be made to look pretty good. especially with upscalers and the like. Honestly as a kid I don't ever remember thinking "man this looks like crap, its barely watchable, I cant wait till somone invents some sort of high resolution disc format". It's only now when we compare it to HD format media that we start thinking it wasn't so hot.
@AChilds528 жыл бұрын
my magnovox dvd/vhs player does output vhs over hdmi but my tv is only capable of 720p at most so that 1080p or 1080i doesn't matter in my case
@fftv387510 ай бұрын
wow you really have to see it to believe it
@randomwrestlingthemes5244 жыл бұрын
that theme song you have at the end is Michelle Obama's theme The Captain Winky Theme
@ericlarson88758 ай бұрын
Skip to 4:00 to save time
@bookshelffury5 жыл бұрын
Huh? I've done 1080p over component. Cool combo unit I've never seen one before.
@AncientElectronics5 жыл бұрын
Yes, your right, that was a mistake, you can output 1080p over component. Most of the component inputs on HDCRT's though that I've come across are also labeled as only accepting 720P and 1080i and many of those early HD devices that output via component seems restricted to 1080i max. I think the Xbox 360 did 1080P over component.
@jonesmalaco4 жыл бұрын
man, 20 bucks... As of March 2020, amidst COVID-19, there's a wack on ebay selling an unopened one for 3 thousand dollars, I shit you not.
@theultimateninja5 жыл бұрын
Dayum, they're like $400+ on ebay!
@jonnyv6245 жыл бұрын
someone has one listed for $3,500. I just want to know who would pay that??
@MrTjongolongo5 жыл бұрын
I have just get my home from ebay (used) it is great, but when i plays whs it is only black/white colors but the dvd/blueray works Great on the tv. I have only the power capel and hdmi capel connected, in my LG tv. that i have buy ind Denmark in the year 2009. I Hope andy body can help me så i can se vhs in coulors ☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️ regards
@catlover101927 жыл бұрын
The resolution on the combo player is really good, but the dynamic range is way worse than the standalone VCR.
@Zestypanda8 жыл бұрын
Nice find. :)
@haleypotter4177 жыл бұрын
Would these be terribly difficult to repair? Could it be taken to a electronics repair?
@AncientElectronics7 жыл бұрын
good question. I have no idea. I suppose if a shop worked on VHS/DVD combo players or still bothered repairing VHS players and also did bluray separately it wouldn't be to diffrent
@billionsafteryourmother69706 жыл бұрын
Wow this actually exists
@chenti9997 жыл бұрын
these go for $500-$600+ now on ebay
@bsanchez3563 Жыл бұрын
Irl no capping Iirc as far as in person I only remember being in a best buy store fwiw but seeing only one store prop type model not more than a mere plastic housing for demo showing aesthetics fwiw that was dvd vcr comb.. woah just now come to think of it I ONLY recall ever seeing that one time or else as recent as 2016 a sanyo dvd recorder vcr combo at walmart but otherwise I can not really think of another place that would have been an in peeson brick mortar type of store other than used models from thriftstores fwiw that DID for howecer l9ng before ceasing seemingly to still have a supply of them as regular items I would or do see on the shekves fwiw ykwis.
@JonnyInfinite8 жыл бұрын
never seen a VCR with Energy Star rating lol
@AncientElectronics8 жыл бұрын
+JonnyInfinite heh, yhea. I think that VCR is one of the later models
@DiepSpartan1197 жыл бұрын
where i can buy that mchien from i mean amazon website is too pricey and best buy doesn't have that machine :P
@AncientElectronics7 жыл бұрын
well, its not manufactured anymore so the secondhand market is basically the only place to find it. EBay, would be the easiest but priciest route. other then that you could luck out and find one at a Goodwill/thrift or yard sale.
@wil-y-el-Coleccionista6 жыл бұрын
Muy extraño combo,😳
@RoundenBrown4 жыл бұрын
20$ is a steal. These go for hundreds, if not thousands, online.
@retrogaming1107 Жыл бұрын
Is it Bluetooth compatible
@IATisinger Жыл бұрын
I want a vhs/uhd-blu ray player
@WildDiamond074 жыл бұрын
Will this player play DVDs? I hope so.
@AncientElectronics4 жыл бұрын
yes it will
@WildDiamond074 жыл бұрын
Of course!
@BLKBRDSR713 жыл бұрын
Nice compairison, thank you for uploading this. Old VCR looks way better. The combo is too bright. The first still shot looks washed out on the BR combo.
@mclaine338 жыл бұрын
If you need a remote you can buy the legit one on eBay for about $35. I know that's expensive but when I got mine I needed the remote. Also I would like to do a video myself about this. I own one and if so I can give you a channel shout out and credit for the idea. I'll be making it later this year when I visit my parents.
@AncientElectronics8 жыл бұрын
I may do that and grab a remote. That would be awesome, look forward to your video on it.
@mclaine338 жыл бұрын
This one is from China so you have to wait a month or so: www.ebay.com/itm/FOR-PANASONIC-DMP-BD70V-blu-ray-DVD-RECORDER-player-Remote-Control-N2QAYB000236-/180910174003?hash=item2a1f162f33:g:3aEAAMXQrNtRy9tC This one is from USA www.ebay.com/itm/New-Panasonic-N2QAYB000382-Remote-Control-for-DMP-BD70V-Blu-Ray-VCR-US-Seller-/320990843905?hash=item4abc8b9401:m:mYAXq0rJt1ivz4Ps8CTT3fQ
@supermariof05218 жыл бұрын
Is the Blu-Ray section of this player compatible with DVD as well?
@AncientElectronics8 жыл бұрын
Jacob Carpenter yes it is. are there any Blu-ray players that cant play DVD's?
@supermariof05218 жыл бұрын
0blivi0n100 Cool.
@ZenoLycurgus6 жыл бұрын
I really want to buy it if you still have it.
@danieldougan2694 жыл бұрын
This thing really ought to play D-VHS tapes too. D-Theater! Why not throw in Betamax too?
@AncientElectronics4 жыл бұрын
D-VHS and BluRay combo would have been amazing.
@theoneandonlyluk79705 жыл бұрын
Too bad they are impossible to find....
@ryans4138 жыл бұрын
Okay I can see DVD VHS combos I can see DVD and HDD combos and even see VHS and HDD combos but wtf a Blu Ray and VHS what like that makes now since unless it's a DVHS but still why should have been Blu Ray HDD combo this is weird.
@caseytbss6 жыл бұрын
Skip to about 4:00 minutes in.... your welcome
@Retro_CJ7 жыл бұрын
i think scpb is another name for svhs so it looks like this can play svhs tapes
@norbkowa7 жыл бұрын
Retro_cj it will play svhs tapes but with reduced picture quality of vhs.
@user-wv7rq4vn1z3 жыл бұрын
Где в России такой можно купить?
@bc94777 жыл бұрын
Yup you should always use S-video output for best quality image. And let's not forget a quality S-video cable, cheap ones cause inteference, also nothing longer than 5 m
@baremetalHW7 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ that this is 3,ooo $ fucking bucks on ebay...cool idea though...
@AncientElectronics7 жыл бұрын
na, that's just someone price gouging and shooting for the moon. seems to sell more around the $400 price point...which makes me kind of tempted to sell mine.
@baremetalHW7 жыл бұрын
Send me a link if you decide... would like to see the original, unchanged, VHS of Star Wars a New Hope in "near" HD...
@dagamer63424 жыл бұрын
Dude 20 bucks you are so lucky it goes for like 500 to 2000 dollars on the web
@shadowshop16 жыл бұрын
hi 1080 recording in a computer can be done. you have to go back sometime and use a mix of new and old software and video cards i use old pci asus tv card they have the old phono sockets and the new hd tv software editing sony vegas 14 the new hd cards use alot of space and my monitor doe's not like them. because it SD at 1600x1200 why buy a new one i am just saying
@illbebad4 жыл бұрын
very cool! And, look on ebay, worth some moola!
@MrJ0mmy8 жыл бұрын
this is strange by the time bluray came out i though vhs was dead or almost dead not shore why they made this
@mclaine338 жыл бұрын
It was produced for the last of the last hold outs who refused to upgraded to the digital age. I believe Panasonic made it to convince those who still has VHS but perhaps were curious to try out DVD and Blu Ray. That way you were able to have everything in one unit.
@Ajourneyofknowing7 жыл бұрын
Blu Ray came out in 2006 and the last of the VHS shipments and operating record website operated within 2008 when it halted production and died.
@GustoTheGamer8 жыл бұрын
its a rare model
@azop8 жыл бұрын
You can always get some universal remote controller
@AncientElectronics8 жыл бұрын
+Arthur Samuel Rowan that's a good point
@VHSandDVDOpeningsPOE8 жыл бұрын
+0blivi0n100 what year is the Panasonic DMP-BD70V Blu-Ray / VHS player?
@stevec00ps8 жыл бұрын
+0blivi0n100 Many Android phones can do IR too these days
@AncientElectronics8 жыл бұрын
+Raphyopenings100 TJTF TSAS POE EDCP AVGCP AUTTP to the best of my knowledge 2009
@AChilds528 жыл бұрын
+Arthur Samuel Rowan at least 90% of the universal remotes are only made for tv
@tims2445 жыл бұрын
My vcr has hdmi Toshiba DVR600
@norbkowa2 жыл бұрын
I had two of those players and i have to say that besides being cool and unique it was nothing special. Couldnt do netflix, couldnt record since its only player and at that time they could have used SVHS instead of regular VHS with SQPB feature. I would expect a vcr from 2009 would be best technology at the time and have SVHS ET not just regular VHS. Again it was ok unit but it didnt meet expectation
@Narayan_19967 жыл бұрын
I want one for myself, but I can not have it because Brazil is so far ... could someone send it to me? Hahaha (seriously xD)
@AncientElectronics7 жыл бұрын
Don't be to sad about it. It works the other way as well. There are a lot of Master System and genesis/mega drive collectors that would love to get there hands on stuff from Brazil.
@Narayan_19967 жыл бұрын
I know I should not be sad because I can not get one of these gadgets, but they're so cool that it's hard not to be hahahahaha: '(.) There are many collectors who want to get these Sega consoles and for a reasonable price xD
@Narayan_19967 жыл бұрын
hey, I signed up for your channel ^^, subscriber number 971
@barryp94634 жыл бұрын
s-video looks better than the combo
@vintagecameras96236 жыл бұрын
combo player
@eidsongregory57954 жыл бұрын
HGWHAAGWH
@impracticallynoah6 жыл бұрын
Get a universal remote
@FunkyStudios4 жыл бұрын
to bad people are asking for 1000's of dollars now these days...
@AncientElectronics4 жыл бұрын
I think they are neat but certainly not worth anything close to that much.
@FunkyStudios3 жыл бұрын
@@AncientElectronics definitely
@caseytbss6 жыл бұрын
5:30 to see the backside of unit. This fella gets a little longwinded...