Its now april 2023 and I decided to go back to MFT camera. I sold all my Nikon gear - DSLR- and started with the G90. And will go now for the G9 and what are the video capabillity?

If you stick an OIS lens on the G9 you do not get the option to choose, both on or both off. With the E-M5ii you can have lens or body but not both, except for a couple of hideously expensive Olympus Pro lenses. With a super-tele like the Leica 100-400 you still need a fast shutter to prevent movement blur (the ice rink) but with the Dual2-IS the image is so well stabilised that AF becomes instantaneous.

@@jeffslade1892 If I disable IOS on lens, I can still select e-stabilization for video. There are advantages to IBIS for stills and video. I'm beginning to realize that for video it is more important to *not* stick to the 180 degree rule at longer focal lengths. At 300mm a slight breeze or tripod vibration will kill footage if the shutter speed isn't set high enough.

yeah, hopefully they'll be a new version of it some day!

William Bibb what format you thinking about?

@@TheCameraProject Full-frame most likely.

Steven Harte honestly as far as autofocus is concerned the camera is fantastic. I didn’t do a ton of video af but the stills performance was fabulous. And yeah this thing is super feature packed. It’s insane.

Yes, the G9 reviews I have watched/read uniformly say the stills AF is fantastic. The video AF is not as good for most. A helpful KZfaq post about this is from Three Blind Men and an Elephant (MONGO Panasonic G9 AF + GH5 Hack Review). I haven't launched out in doing videos on the G9 yet, so keeping my fingers crossed.

Steven Harte yup I’ve seen the video. Just didn’t get too deep into video af in my time because as you see in his video it’s a real rabbit hole!

you see, i knew that extra ask would work!

Achim do you mean autofocus accuracy in low light? I didn’t have issues with the ibis. Autofocus in low light was still good but on Olympus lenses wasn’t nearly as reliable as with Panasonic

Where on earth did you find that deal?

@@Mr007jamster I bought one open box from amazon for $869 and two from ebay used with very low shutter count for $899 and $889

@@jorgem50 oh I thought you meant you found three for $900 together!

@@Mr007jamster oh no lol. I need to rephrase my comment

armaniusmaximus all of the ice rink tests and most of the street was af-c and I was very happy with it

Craig Ryan I think it would do ok with walking if you were holding it the whole time. Going from subject to subject might be more of a challenge. Overall it is a fantastic camera though

Thank you for the reply. I read such nice things about this camera, but I had a G7 and grew so frustrated with the focus I left the brand. Would love to try Panasonic again.

Craig Ryan yeah I’d see if you can rent one or borrow one. What you shoot now?

I use a Canon G7Xii, and an 80D, dependent on the situation. The 80D is big, but nice, and I love the little one.

Please do GX9 review soon! The photo you took with G9 in this video is jpg out of the camera without edit? The color is pop! Looks better than Sony! Hope GX9 IQ as good or even better!

NETVO TV in short, yes if you want a camera you can put in your jacket pocket this is bigger than the camera you want and you should probably go with gx9. We are currently reviewing another camera and then after that we hope to try out the gx9. Not all jpegs are straight out of camera. Stabilization stills definitely are not edited and neither are iso tests on our website. But still raw exported from lightroom not in camera jpeg.

TheCameraProject I see, I want to put it in a Peak Design Sling 10L bag, both will fit but I like my setup light and easy to shoot at any angle and as stealth as possible! By the way, which color(ash, Charcoal, Black) of Peak Design Sling 10L bag is the best(nice looking for long, and won’t need clean for long)?

Yeah, I wouldn't call this combination stealth, it doesn't look like a 1DX with a 70-200 2.8 on it, but it also doesn't look like an RX100, so yeah, it feels pretty standard mid-range DSLR size. I don't own the peak design bags, but I think Charcoal would probably be my call... or black. Ash looks like it might get dirty after a while.

TheCameraProject ok thanks! I’m considering between Ash and Black, guess it will be black then!

Really tough call. I would base that less on the camera and more on the lenses you own or would like to own. Panasonic lenses will work better with the G9 and vice versa. I like the menus and touch interface better on the G9. I like the styling and size better on the EM1 MII, but all of that is very personal.

@@TheCameraProject thanks. I'm also thinking on the same way. Decide based on the lenses.

Dark Side Challenger that’s a tough call. If you shoot stills primarily the G9 is your better bet and primarily video go gh5. If it all comes down to cost. With that package they essentially cost the same even though it feels like a better deal with gh5 because the camera is more expensive. The gh5 is a very capable stills camera and the G9 very capable at video so they both are pretty great all around. Tough call. Do you want the top screen on G9? Do you want faster shooting of stills on G9? Do you need the extra video features on gh5?

TheCameraProject which extra features for example? I’m considering buying a g9 for my assistant instead of a gh5 (that I use and love)... there is a 300€ difference that those features must fill!!

Matthew Mockovic soccer could be a little fast in terms of electronic shutter. You could see some rolling shutter artifacts. In terms of focusing I think it depends on your vantage point and line the the player. I think it would do pretty well though.

It’s not so much performance it’s features. Both are very capable at video but the gh5 has shutter angle, more controls, 10 bit, optional vlog. The g9 May have slightly better autofocus as it’s the newer camera. Otherwise for video the gh5 definitely wins.

Thanks Ewan! I happen to have the A7rIII for our next review right now! Loving it so far, but only had for a couple of days. The autofocus is ridiculously good in my early tests!

Can't wait for the video

So... no guarantees, but the A7RIII has been pretty well reviewed already, what haven't you seen in other reviews that you'd like to see from ours?

TheCameraProject id love to see some stuff on video, autofocus performance in video and also the iso/low light performance. Because this camera seems to be the perfect middle ground between a stills camera and video

Janic Wesseling I don’t own the g9 to test the firmware but I’ve heard great things. As for the upgrade I’d say the autofocus and image stabilization will be the biggest enhancements. Some color science tweaks as well. Image quality won’t be leaps and bounds different but better.

sort of, it's not logical or really documented, but if you go to your menus, to your flash slow limit in your menus, it basically lets you do it. www.mu-43.com/threads/minimum-shutter-speed-workaround.55966/

Matt I don’t have the G9 on hand but I believe it is done from the power switch.

TheCameraProject Alright, I'll have a play around and see what I can do. Thanks

Yeah hold the power switch further to the right, and it will light up.

Patrick Martin I haven’t shot the rx10 but do own an rx100 and I have to say if you don’t think you’ll want to switch lenses you be spending a lot less money and carrying less bulk with the Sony. Yes it’s a 1inch sensor which won’t have as shallow depth of field and not quite the dynamic range but it’s still pretty respectable. It should be a good do it all camera without the complexities and costs of an interchangeable lens system. Still extremely capable! Panasonic also makes an rx10 competitor but that’s a whole separate conversation!

TheCameraProject after reading several information I tend to go for Sony A7 III and just auto mode for my wife... And if I want I can switch lenses.

Patrick Martin the a7iii looks to be an amazing camera. That said please keep kit size, weight and cost in your mind before casually going full frame. If you worry about any of those 3 categories you may want to figure out what lenses before you get that camera. Then figure out size, weight and cost.

Chagrin Valley-Web very similar I would say. Hard to quantify without labs but it felt on par based on all of my tests. See our google plus for iso samples

so if you have an Olympus OMD-EM5-ii don't expect better images from the G9, correct? forget about labs, can you see a difference?

Reza Travilla both really great. Em1 is a little smaller. So depends which you prefer. Video better on G9 by far. The olympus is probably better w olympus lenses and Panasonic definitely will be better with their lenses. So it depends if you are already invested. Both great cameras. I’d say better face tracking on G9.

Only in my dreams... only in my dreams

bobbintonn yup! It won’t be our next one but hopefully one after that!

Yeah! And also the pics he took, most of them appeared to be in focus until he zoomed in. And thats with an expensive lens too.

D Ch never got the chance to and it’s on the older side now

FreeQuest I’m not sure how you get that from this review. Just because we don’t test the thing you want to see doesn’t mean it’s a hobbyist camera that can’t handle that. We test things like image stabilization and autofocus. Both very important to pros. We test video also very important to many people.

​@@TheCameraProject Low light Performance is important in street and event and landscape I do realise you are a street photographer not sure what else you do and I assume from the last part of the video you shoot at night as well. Yet you mention nothing of low light photography. So this gives the impression to me at least you are aiming your review at fanboys, People that only shoot in good light and the general hobbyist that doesn't really do much more challenging than that. Low light photography is integral to the pro event shooter to the street photographer that likes to shoot at night or someone that is looking to get some lighter kit. Anyway, I do suggest maybe to even out any future reviews you also take that into account as well. GG:hf

@@freequest So first of all, see our website, thecameraproj.com for our G9 ISO test. We used to do 3 part reviews when we first started the channel, probably close to 40 minutes per review. But then we realize no one wanted to watch that, and with full time jobs, it wasn't sustainable for us either. We do appreciate the feedback and usually try to be thorough, but sometimes we just cut a section because basically summing up the G9 ISO with saying it is pretty comparable to other M43 cameras often gets the point across.

@@TheCameraProject You do realise that Google+ is going away. And yes an ISO test I did actually see that but it's not very clear not very well laid out requires you to blow up the image then press the information button for each image and you don't even mention this in your video nor on your description. Hate to say this but looks like an afterthought how hard is it to add this info directly to the image you know and maybe mention it in your video link in your description maybe you know might even drive people to your web page not that hard really so yeah that's why I saw its an afterthought. BTW the longest video you have on your channel is "Beer and A Shot - Photography competition" at 22mins and 2.5k views so don't tell me this 40 mins stuff doesn't work when you can actually find it out. I am not gonna tell you how to run a youtube channel nor how to do reviews I have no experience in that but I do know from business and yes I work I own a business its consistency in everything you do that's how you build brands that's how you progress people expect it people look forward to it. Anyway, I wish you the best results in everything you do but the key to everything is consistency and that's it. BTW gonna mute this I really can't be bothered arguing. You do ok work you can do better you just need to finesse it a bit more. GG:hf

@@freequest I know you've muted, and i don't intend on arguing. Just a few points. Yes, google+ is now going away, but wasn't when we put the photos there. Yes, you are right, we should have put the link in description. Our 40 minute review were 3 part reviews. Like our sony A7II or Fuji X100T reviews, not one long video. Yes, it would have been clearer with info on photo, but this review probably took about 50 hours or work in addition to our full time jobs. We don't get paid to do these. We hope they can help people in any way possible.

alan nguyen Do a budget of lenses you'd like to have with both systems. I think you'll be very surprised about the result! ;) At least the prizes of Sony GM lenses made those systems rule out for my needs! :P (For example: the a6500 with its overheating issues is by far more expensive than a GX8 with no overheating in 4K. All around the Lumix is a better value for its prize!)