SM64 - Blue Coin Clones

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pannenkoek2012

pannenkoek2012

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In this video, I explain how blue coins work, and discuss whether blue coins and/or the blue coin block could be cloned to gain extra coins.
In conclusion, when you clone a blue coin, the blue coin remains on the course, but can no longer be accessed since it stays invisible and intangible without the blue coin block. When you clone the blue coin block, the block remains on the course, but is meaningless since there are no more coins to make visible. The only way to produce extra coins from cloning is to clone a blue coin and then exit through the loading point before the blue coin timer runs out. But despite my best ideas and attempts, I could not show this to be doable.
At the end, I show Mario cloning blue coins from various enemies. It is worth noting that my discussion of blue coins only pertains to the blue coins related to the blue coin block. Blue coins that come from enemies can be cloned, but since the enemy dies in the process, that blue coin can't be produced again. Consequently, no extra coins are gained from cloning a blue coin from an enemy.

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@attackedbysnakes3640
@attackedbysnakes3640 7 жыл бұрын
"I just get stuck in some sort of limbo world" PU'S CONFIRMED
@ateneaullua420
@ateneaullua420 Жыл бұрын
@Z_Liv yeah how
@freakzone1284
@freakzone1284 Жыл бұрын
sex
@minuspi8372
@minuspi8372 Жыл бұрын
@Z_Liv we all agreed we shouldn't reply to this comment. didn't you get the memo?
@MarioMastr
@MarioMastr 11 ай бұрын
@@minuspi8372…what memo? There was a memo we were supposed to get?
@sippingthepeachsoda
@sippingthepeachsoda Ай бұрын
@@MarioMastryeah it was handed out at the last meeting, were you not there? i’m gonna have to bring this up at your next performance report
@TheIndigoExperiment
@TheIndigoExperiment 7 жыл бұрын
I love how "(using) speed to go faster" was your *last* idea.
@awsfelemban3466
@awsfelemban3466 2 жыл бұрын
Such solutions that might get access to the parallel universe and dangerous solutions only used to for desperate cause
@DaniPaunov
@DaniPaunov 7 жыл бұрын
"I just got stuck in some kind of limbo world" Probably a PU so far away that the distance between the individual x planes and z planes is >32 units (you need a speed of at least 64 units)
@hevgamer6087
@hevgamer6087 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think he could have builded up so much speed before his quarter spet lined up with a PU
@Mabi19
@Mabi19 5 жыл бұрын
@@hevgamer6087 BLJ build up speed SUPER QUICKLY. Your speed basically doubles with each BLJ.
@Pixelcraftian
@Pixelcraftian Жыл бұрын
I'm not an expert, was this video made before or after the parallel universe discovery?
@apolloandwarrior_3229
@apolloandwarrior_3229 Жыл бұрын
​@@Pixelcraftian this video was made just a year before the discovery of Parallel Universes. Oldest video's are 7 years old so this could be an early demonstration of one before they had a name.
@robdillenger4763
@robdillenger4763 7 жыл бұрын
00:51 "We need to go deeper" this guy.
@ciberluisos
@ciberluisos 7 жыл бұрын
Deffinitely I love him
@inverted_paradox4170
@inverted_paradox4170 6 жыл бұрын
Hello everyone! I'm Andis, and welcome to today's cooking show! On this episode, we will be making a classic, yet somewhat modern Soap Cake! Now I know what you're thinking, who in their right mind wants a soap cake!? But we're not in our right mind so that's A-OK! But enough about that, let's get started! For ingredients, you will need cake mix, eggs, butter, milk, the most fucked up route in existence, and some fine quality soap. Begin by mixing all of the ingredients in a bowl, and add extra soap for extra taste! Now that you are all mixed, put that bad boy in the oven for 30 seconds, and think about the scrumptious cake that will soon caress your taste buds. Once baked, take that moist cake out of the oven and slather it in some icing, strawberries, and extra soap for good measure. Once done, give it to your favorite friend and be prepared to experience true rejection. Well, that's it for today's episode, until next time, stay squeaky!
@ThisAlias
@ThisAlias 6 жыл бұрын
1:40 let's go deeper
@fliker2
@fliker2 4 жыл бұрын
"We need to go deeper" Me: (lenny)
@qtulhoo
@qtulhoo 3 жыл бұрын
Inverted_Paradox I... uh... what?
@GabrielAKAFinn
@GabrielAKAFinn 8 жыл бұрын
The beginning of PUs?
@Jake_Josh
@Jake_Josh 4 жыл бұрын
GabrielAKAFinn yes. 10:30
@thealbinotadpole2878
@thealbinotadpole2878 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jake_Josh No. PU's were known about long before this. They were even used in the 2012 120 star TAS.
@Jake_Josh
@Jake_Josh 4 жыл бұрын
The Albino Tadpole for Pannankokek 2012.
@2chill2bbored72
@2chill2bbored72 3 жыл бұрын
Jake Josh Pannenkoek2012*
@welcoe
@welcoe 3 жыл бұрын
The earliest known mention of PUs is from a GameFAQs thread in 2005
@BunannaMuffn
@BunannaMuffn 2 ай бұрын
I get halfway thru the video like “well that seems pretty cut and dry, video over” and then the mad man _clones the block_
@brianpso
@brianpso 10 жыл бұрын
That's pannenkoek2012's uncertainty principle right there!
@vicenzoandriolo6723
@vicenzoandriolo6723 2 жыл бұрын
“Some limbo world”
@CreamyRage
@CreamyRage 9 жыл бұрын
I hope you use your talents to do something like teach, this video explained things very well and your method of testing hypotheses to flesh out the explanations is something that would lend itself very well to teaching. I'm imagining programming or something since you clearly like exploring mechanics of games
@pannenkoek2012
@pannenkoek2012 9 жыл бұрын
CreamyRage I'm actually a TA for a Mathematics/Computer Science course!
@CreamyRage
@CreamyRage 9 жыл бұрын
That explains a lot, I can imagine you do a good job based on these videos
@jadchehimi
@jadchehimi 9 жыл бұрын
pannenkoek2012 I would love a teacher who secretly makes money of a amazing game.
@FrogFraction
@FrogFraction 8 жыл бұрын
+pannenkoek2012 I like game mechanics and stuff too, but I can't program. What should I do to become a 1337 gamedev?
@MasterOfTheChainsaw
@MasterOfTheChainsaw 8 жыл бұрын
+DarkWave I would recommend you learn how to program.
@KurakiN64
@KurakiN64 9 жыл бұрын
You should make a video explaining that outside-the-level limbo in details. I did it many times with an autofire controller, and sometimes Mario disappears but can still “move” like you did, sometimes there is a sound glitch and nothing else can happen, sometimes the camera still follows Mario who is in an invisible box, and sometimes the same thing happens except I have infinite space to move.
@pannenkoek2012
@pannenkoek2012 9 жыл бұрын
Craki Yeah, I probably will make a video on that down the road!
@IL4NR
@IL4NR 8 жыл бұрын
+Craki welcome to the wonderful world of paralel universes
@craftyawesome6830
@craftyawesome6830 7 жыл бұрын
+pannenkoek2012 Is it the floating point precision?
@tapatorta
@tapatorta Жыл бұрын
@@pannenkoek2012 and oh boy did you
@augustday9483
@augustday9483 Ай бұрын
This thread is like listening to a scientist right before he discovers nuclear energy or something.
@MegaZack30
@MegaZack30 8 жыл бұрын
10:41 Did you . . . get into a parallel universe? I'm pretty convinced that's a PU you ended up in.
@mr.whimsic6902
@mr.whimsic6902 8 жыл бұрын
+MegaZack30 Was thinking the same thing! Please answer.
@dangobango2248
@dangobango2248 8 жыл бұрын
+pannenkeok2012 there now it should show up in his notifications and hopefully he goes to the video to check the comments
@MasterOfTheChainsaw
@MasterOfTheChainsaw 8 жыл бұрын
+MegaZack30 I don't think so, I think he would need way more speed to get to a PU. In the video where he explains how PUs work he had to build up speed for hours to get to one.
@laurarauhauser2350
@laurarauhauser2350 8 жыл бұрын
+MasterOfTheChainsaw It's because of how many PUs he had to go through. You can easily get to a single PU with a BLJ.
@undergroundmonorail
@undergroundmonorail 8 жыл бұрын
+MegaZack30 My understanding is that position variables still update in PUs.
@skitten4671
@skitten4671 3 жыл бұрын
Just realized that coins have 4 frames to spin! No wonder they look so laggy!
@dirtydan6960
@dirtydan6960 7 жыл бұрын
6:43 SO WHY DON'T YOU CLONE THE GAME??
@corvusnocturne
@corvusnocturne 7 жыл бұрын
how does one clone an N64 cartridge in the real world?
@njihjkzero2829
@njihjkzero2829 7 жыл бұрын
By grabbing a bomb as it explodes, obviously.
@MetaBloxer
@MetaBloxer 7 жыл бұрын
Piracy
@litigation_jackson
@litigation_jackson 7 жыл бұрын
+Njihjk Zero brb flying to syria
@captainobvious9201
@captainobvious9201 6 жыл бұрын
*PPPPAAAARRRRAAAALLLLEEEELLLL UUUNNNIIIVVVEEERRRSSSEEESSS.*
@Zyon134
@Zyon134 6 жыл бұрын
10:33 The worlds first parallel universe in sm64
@MariaNicolae
@MariaNicolae 5 жыл бұрын
Not even close. The earliest documented example of travelling to a PU that I've seen is 25 July 2005 cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267091686423789568/392996279191339008/unknown.png
@ojcorp
@ojcorp 5 жыл бұрын
@@MariaNicolae i've been trying to figure out when PUs were first discovered and properly explained, but searching for them in this day and age just digs up shitty memes about watch for rolling rocks
@MariaNicolae
@MariaNicolae 5 жыл бұрын
@@ojcorp The term "PU" has only been in use since about 2015. If you want to find anything earlier than that searching "PU" won't yield shit. It's been known as "out of bounds" since at least 2008 (maybe 2007), but I don't know if there was a name before that one. Back in 2005 there probably wasn't a standard name for it
@ojcorp
@ojcorp 5 жыл бұрын
@@MariaNicolae when did people start to figure out how they actually work and/or use them in routes?
@MariaNicolae
@MariaNicolae 5 жыл бұрын
@@ojcorp From what I've seen, the first time PUs were utilised was in Moat Door Skip, since it was a solution to a long standing problem. Tyler Kehne did most of the figuring out how to route them
@Lizuma
@Lizuma 5 жыл бұрын
Great explanation, I enjoyed learning more about the blue coins!
@WillClayYoung
@WillClayYoung 8 жыл бұрын
Hey, at the end where you said Mario gets shot into a limbo world, did he shoot into a PU?
@dvdcopyofsharktaleVEVO
@dvdcopyofsharktaleVEVO 6 жыл бұрын
Clay Young Yeah he shot into the steel ball run universe haha funny joke amirite fellas
@sarahbenner7283
@sarahbenner7283 7 жыл бұрын
Is the "limbo world" you talk about here a parallel universe?
@MariaNicolae
@MariaNicolae 7 жыл бұрын
No, this is different. In PUs, Mario can still move normally. This is probably a PU that's so far out Mario's stuck in place by floating-point imprecision.
@virtigristhewrench
@virtigristhewrench 6 жыл бұрын
But what about PU crashes?
@Mabi19
@Mabi19 6 жыл бұрын
PU crashes don't happen on (any) emulator, VC also doesn't have them
@meta04
@meta04 4 жыл бұрын
VirtigrisTheWrench: PU crashes don't happen on the emulator he was using (the power meter appears after the PU crash would have happened), so probably float imprecision (he's so many PUs out that Mario's normal 32~64 movement speed isn't enough to go to the next float, in the same way that, on a TI-89 or TI-83/84 series calc [14 digits], 1.E+16 + 100 = 1.E+16) anyway doubles _were_ used in a few places …unintentionally, causing things like the WiiVC BitFS 0x route to be possible
@stuff31
@stuff31 Жыл бұрын
"It's a surprise tool that will help us later"
@mossytime349
@mossytime349 3 жыл бұрын
I love the commentated videos. Sure most of the best videos are from the uncomentated channel but it's still nice for dyslexia or when you don't want to focus on reading too much. Also your voice is nice
@ilovemathandswimming
@ilovemathandswimming 8 жыл бұрын
6:42 Then clone the game. :P
@accuratejaney8140
@accuratejaney8140 7 жыл бұрын
Blacklight Ikr
@virtigristhewrench
@virtigristhewrench 6 жыл бұрын
Cloning the game would be piracy. Piracy is an illegal action and will terminate your N64.exe Not to mention, all these glitches in application for the A button challenge are console tested so, good luck duplicating a N64 game pak.
@enriquenavarroarmas8796
@enriquenavarroarmas8796 5 жыл бұрын
_CrazyCrafter672 yep
@ForwardTu
@ForwardTu 4 жыл бұрын
@@virtigristhewrench It's just a joke smartass.
@dillon1012
@dillon1012 7 жыл бұрын
So basically in 11 minutes we go from talking about coins to taking about parallel universe
@twilight-sparkle
@twilight-sparkle 7 жыл бұрын
I'm interested in this Limbo world. How did it happen? What caused it? Are there any more limbos?
@CaroFDoom
@CaroFDoom 7 жыл бұрын
QLW Quarter Limbo World.
@MariaNicolae
@MariaNicolae 7 жыл бұрын
The fact that he's not getting anywhere means it isn't a PU.
@Villfuk02
@Villfuk02 7 жыл бұрын
He wouldn't have enough speed to get in PU so far away
@badusername6862
@badusername6862 7 жыл бұрын
Villfuk 02 blj's are EXTREMELY fast at increasing speed
@timothye.2902
@timothye.2902 7 жыл бұрын
I've discussed this in another comment chain on this video, and based on all the circumstances and the limited information we have from this video, the most likely explanation by far is Floats. There's a video about it that Pannen has put out. Bascially, Floats are used to track Mario's position (at least for our purposes, that's explained in the Watch for Rolling Rocks video). The thing about floats, is that they can technically represent values from +/- infinity, however, they get less and less precise the farther from 0 you go. Since these are used to track Mario's movement, his movement becomes more and more granular visually at distances really far away from the origin of the map, such as PUs that are far enough away. Eventually, Floats become so granular that Mario can't quarter-step between two "adjacent" values of the Float (remember that Mario's movement is accounted for at every quarter step of his next intended position, and the game will move Mario up to but not including the first invalid step). So with enough speed, Mario would me almost instantly transported a large distance away from the main map, such that he wouldn't qualify at every quarter-step moving through float points, even with such immense speed. He'd be stuck in place with his position not updating. However, as seen in the Float video, Mario can still perform the running animation, even if he's not moving anywhere. The only other option would be a completely new glitch. Remember that PUs don't have walls, so the only things stopping Mario's movement out in a PU are Floats and OOB, both of which function on the quarter-step movement calculation. PUs don't become more granular, so were Floats factored out of the equation, Mario would just continue forever until he lost speed naturally such that he could not travel between PUs, which is not what is seen in the video. So if it's not floats, it would be a new glitch with the exact specifications Pannen described: Mario can run about as he pleases, but his position doesn't update, and the camera locks. These things are all covered by Floats, so the existence of a separate glitch is unlikely, but technically possible.
@LuckyBacon
@LuckyBacon 8 жыл бұрын
If you can clone the yellow coin spawning point, can you clone the Goomba spawning point with the mystery Goomba?
@floydstephman
@floydstephman 8 жыл бұрын
he can and has, but that's cheap
@chorosso5259
@chorosso5259 7 жыл бұрын
he has? i thought it was impossible since there were no loading zones or something
@funnydogman9534
@funnydogman9534 7 жыл бұрын
You can't clone any spawner without the loading zone cloning method, which is only present in DDD and WDW
@d0nnyr0n
@d0nnyr0n 6 жыл бұрын
But clones cant send or recive signals so it wouldn't spawn the goombas anyway. But good idea though!
@want-diversecontent3887
@want-diversecontent3887 6 жыл бұрын
Ryan Paul But they won't unload either! If you place a spawning point clone while they're loaded, then stomp on the mystery goomba, guess what? He hasn't unloaded!
@mariomario8215
@mariomario8215 9 жыл бұрын
Actually I think you can do this, you just have to place the HOLP at the loading point, and when you clone the teleport it appears at the loading point and you can unload the clone.
@CyberBlastoise
@CyberBlastoise 6 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to lower the water in the main part of WD world so that you can backwards long jump and run to the loading zone?
@TheMineMappers
@TheMineMappers 10 жыл бұрын
I bet there is no one that knows more about sm64 than you :D
@pannenkoek2012
@pannenkoek2012 10 жыл бұрын
That's why I need to share my knowledge! :D
@TheMineMappers
@TheMineMappers 10 жыл бұрын
Only if we could use your knowledge for things in the real world :P
@chlorobyte
@chlorobyte 9 жыл бұрын
***** if there was cloning in real world, i would be rich
@atticusyrubsema2415
@atticusyrubsema2415 9 жыл бұрын
pannenkoek2012 You know how you said you couldn't use Chuck-ya to get to the loading point faster? Well you could've just done it while holding the clone hands-free, or you could've just done it AFTER you released the clone.
@mariomario8215
@mariomario8215 9 жыл бұрын
*atticus* yrubsemA Or you could hold Chuckya hands-free.
@PlushSM64
@PlushSM64 10 жыл бұрын
This doesn't answer any question, but... Simultaneous events (Releasing the blue coin clone; The timer runs out)? What does happen?
@pannenkoek2012
@pannenkoek2012 10 жыл бұрын
Either you release a blue coin that's still there and collect it (released too early) or you release a blue coin that's not there so nothing appears (released too late). Basically, there's no interesting intermediate outcome. As far as I know, this applies to all instances of releasing a clone right when that object unloads.
@PlushSM64
@PlushSM64 10 жыл бұрын
pannenkoek2012 So there's really no in-between event ;-;
@nihao123456ftw
@nihao123456ftw 10 жыл бұрын
pannenkoek2012 I wonder if it's possible to clone blue coins in any of the modded sm64 roms out there
@timothye.2902
@timothye.2902 7 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing, but instead of timer run out, I was thinking: entering the loading point.
@One_of_Many750
@One_of_Many750 7 жыл бұрын
I'm Loving This Guys Science!! It's Awesome!!
@jak830
@jak830 7 жыл бұрын
10:41 Wouldn't it be possible with the parallel universes you've shown off?
@krypton7900
@krypton7900 2 жыл бұрын
that "limbo world" is a PU
@mario28795
@mario28795 9 жыл бұрын
these videos are amazing you earned a sub ;D
@damb1277
@damb1277 7 жыл бұрын
when you started building up speed on the elevator my mind honestly melted
@MM102
@MM102 9 жыл бұрын
Could you clone a button then clone a blue coin right after? then when you come back both would load right?
@zheil9152
@zheil9152 Жыл бұрын
10:40 oh you innocent, innocent man
@DRYESPLZ
@DRYESPLZ 9 жыл бұрын
Hmmm... Would it be possible to use the "lower the water" glitch to empty out the pipe? From there, you could Backwards Long Jump into the pipe and run to the loading point in time, since there'd be no swimming. Unless, of course, I'm missing something about the water lowering glitch. It's just a little theory. ^^;
@pannenkoek2012
@pannenkoek2012 9 жыл бұрын
DRYESPLZ No, the water lowering technique doesn't apply to the regular town, only to downtown.
@epapoulia
@epapoulia 3 жыл бұрын
MY question here is: can't you clone both the block AND the blue coins? that way you can infinitely clone both! clone both a blue coin and the block before ground pounding the original block,dont collect the coin clone, reclone the coin before the timer runs out,ground pound the block and repeat infinitely.cant you do that?
@DaniPaunov
@DaniPaunov 7 жыл бұрын
do coins from enemies only drop once or do they drop until (the game thinks) you collect them?
@hps362
@hps362 Жыл бұрын
A time before parallel universes were a known phenomenon? That's craaaazy!
@coolersrevenge
@coolersrevenge 8 жыл бұрын
I just got my old n64 working with Super Mario 64. Sadly, both of my old controllers are broken. I will be sure to try all of these!
@theSato
@theSato 8 жыл бұрын
Just curious, since it doesn't really matter, but would you be able to clone both the blue coin and the spawner in the SM64 multiplayer mod?
@MapCRimSoNCobRa117
@MapCRimSoNCobRa117 8 жыл бұрын
So, idk if this helps or not, or if you figured this out yet, but ill comment it anyways. At ~10:35 is this "limbo" state the PU that you showcased in your 0x A presses for the Secret Aquarium? It's apparent that, at the time, you didn't know/understand why or what this was (if it is in fact Mario going into the PU do to you gaining a ton of negative speed). If this is the case, could you not Ground Pound the Blue Coin Block and collect a Blue Coin Clone, then BLJ on the elevator to enter the PU, and then get out of the PU into the Loading point zone of the underwater town? or is there not enough time/wrong elevation/simply not possible? or is this just an unexplored Option that you don't really want to waste time on?which i could understand.
@zandermoody3678
@zandermoody3678 8 жыл бұрын
so what ur saying if we do multiplayer, we can , but cant regular
@MimoriAzume
@MimoriAzume 3 жыл бұрын
"My only other idea was to use speed to get there faster" genius lmao
@potatoheadpokemario1931
@potatoheadpokemario1931 Жыл бұрын
how about making blue coin cloning profitable in THI?
@enixplays4972
@enixplays4972 8 жыл бұрын
omg...I love these videos but "Mare ee oh"
@anastasiadunbar5246
@anastasiadunbar5246 8 жыл бұрын
Mareeooooh!11
@dangobango2248
@dangobango2248 8 жыл бұрын
to me it sounds like maaaario
@dangobango2248
@dangobango2248 8 жыл бұрын
+Inotamira Orani God no need to be so sensitive about something. we just want to say what we hear is there a problem with that?
@stinkystonerharvey2774
@stinkystonerharvey2774 7 жыл бұрын
Ladical Rad the Highlander Its Mar-eo not mare-eo
@dawnagnew4568
@dawnagnew4568 7 жыл бұрын
What happens if you gather all coins on the course, and then make a bunch of intangible blue coin clones near the coin block? If you ground pounded it, would they all become tangible?
@Seth_rs
@Seth_rs 10 жыл бұрын
Nice video, did you come up with your information all by yourself and do you do it for a try-test method?
@pannenkoek2012
@pannenkoek2012 10 жыл бұрын
I basically do testing, make observations, formulate models that obey these observations, do more testing and observations, update the model if necessary, and repeat. Until the model makes sense for every situation!
@Thehunterpwn
@Thehunterpwn 7 жыл бұрын
But can you do it in a half A press?
@funnydogman9534
@funnydogman9534 7 жыл бұрын
Even _Better:_ No Buttons Allowed
@MariaNicolae
@MariaNicolae 7 жыл бұрын
*EVEN BETTER:* No Input Allowed.
@pineappleplays7086
@pineappleplays7086 7 жыл бұрын
Even Better: No Game Allowed.
@MarcoDToon
@MarcoDToon 7 жыл бұрын
An A press is an A press. You can't say it's just a half
@TailsIsAwesome
@TailsIsAwesome 7 жыл бұрын
Even even better: No Super Mario 64 and console... no emulators allowed
@Denlak777
@Denlak777 9 жыл бұрын
You're a fucking genius mate.
@captianwaffle2766
@captianwaffle2766 4 жыл бұрын
This should be revisited.
@mrpokemon1186
@mrpokemon1186 4 жыл бұрын
Is there enough time to clone both a blue coin and the blue coin block?
@Amy-si8gq
@Amy-si8gq 8 жыл бұрын
5:30 can we use this for the coin we saw earlier?
@c4rt00nk1d
@c4rt00nk1d 7 жыл бұрын
Pannen what about that 2 player thing you did to try to kill that mystery goomba? Or is that not usable for what you are trying to accomplish?
@lioneyebee497
@lioneyebee497 5 жыл бұрын
man you're amazing! how you discover so many things about sm64?
@SuperDZ555
@SuperDZ555 Жыл бұрын
0:30 Actually, contrary to popular belief, the average person perceives Mario 64 as a three dimensional game.
@jackiejelly8847
@jackiejelly8847 7 жыл бұрын
What I want to know is, if you clone the blue coin switch, throw it, and hit the original, collect some but not ALL the blue coins, leave the area, come back to the area, and hit the switch, will the rest of the blue coins still spawn?
@chiveswinston9109
@chiveswinston9109 7 жыл бұрын
such an in-depth question, and such a simple answer XD
@what.5693
@what.5693 7 жыл бұрын
they unload, so no.
@timothye.2902
@timothye.2902 7 жыл бұрын
I don't think you can hit the OG block after you clone it.
@TheLastScoot
@TheLastScoot 9 жыл бұрын
I have some related questions. What about the coins on the sliding missions? Is it even possible to clone those? If by some fashion you get 100 coins on a course without a normal 100 coins star, do you get a 100 coin star?
@UnfamiliarPlace
@UnfamiliarPlace 5 жыл бұрын
4:16 Why does the clone count towards whether they're all collected, but doesn't get unloaded like an uncollected coin when the timer runs out?
@terminusest9179
@terminusest9179 8 жыл бұрын
There should be like this typical question stating: "Can this method kill the mystery goomba?" Lol...
@piperformerlycassette
@piperformerlycassette 7 жыл бұрын
I don't prefer Pannen's commentary, but I love finding out stuff like this. Basically, I prefer uncommentated pannen. But hey, I like these videos, and so, It's still pretty good.
@CommandantLennon
@CommandantLennon 8 жыл бұрын
bits of this remind me of Minecraft. when you die, mobs gather around your death site because you are but invisible and non solid.
@phanpy1005
@phanpy1005 7 жыл бұрын
But what of you clone a blue coin and a blue clone block?
@jesserobertson8397
@jesserobertson8397 7 жыл бұрын
only get 1 clone
@aceof8S
@aceof8S 7 жыл бұрын
+Phanpy Tv I'd like to try it with the 2 Player thingy I'd heard about
@mrspiffy8587
@mrspiffy8587 3 жыл бұрын
It's honestly a shame your videos got memed to death *cough cough* Watch for rolling rocks *cough cough*. These videos are really entertaining and informative.
@Kasei87
@Kasei87 7 жыл бұрын
Would it be possible to clone the block, use the original, leave so it unloads, come back, and use the clone to extend the timer?
@goombaheart9303
@goombaheart9303 8 жыл бұрын
It'd be far slower, but couldn't you lower the water level before cloning?
@thewierdragonbaby4843
@thewierdragonbaby4843 Жыл бұрын
I know I'm 6 years late but you can only lower the water level of the town area, the main area reverts to whatever water level you entered the painting in when going back to it, and this was already on the lowest water level
@Ultimaximus
@Ultimaximus 10 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't be a productive use of time especially since WDW already has a 255 coin method anyways, and it doesn't look like there's much time left on the timer, but if you were to repeatedly enter and exit the loading point to bring the water level down below the pipe level, would you be able to get to the loading point a little faster?
@Ultimaximus
@Ultimaximus 10 жыл бұрын
Oh, no, that wouldn't work, since you wouldn't even be able to get out of the pipe with the clone. And that alternating water level overflow would let you get out, but I still don't see that working out due to the strict time limit
@HDMineFace
@HDMineFace 8 жыл бұрын
2 questions: What platform are u on and how do u clone ;-;
@StormSurfer7
@StormSurfer7 7 жыл бұрын
Theory to clone blue coins & get more: step 1: get something you can use for cloning there & have a coin block no hand clone Step 2: collect coins (leave at min: 1 coin) Step 3: use the clonabe object to clone the coin before the timer ends Step 4: let the timer end then leave the area Step 5: return to the blue coin block
@Fritzafella
@Fritzafella 2 жыл бұрын
I had an Idea for cloning a Blue Coin that might have worked, but there really isn't a point even of it is possible. It revolves on reloading the coins and the block, which only 4 cources do and the ones it matters in don't work (RR TTC and SML, two have no way to unload, can't clone in SML in general) The issue is it involved cloning either a coin or the block AFTER they loaded which isn't possible. Even if it was possible to clone one, to do so you'd need to clone one with the timer going, AND collect all the other coins. Probably just too strict.
@crackhex2649
@crackhex2649 4 жыл бұрын
The single star TAS for the vanish cap star in wdw / reds not sure has a blj into a PU which loads tje area almost instantly
@Pheenoh
@Pheenoh 10 жыл бұрын
Hmm. Does the coin block timer run if you pause unpause frame perfectly to the loading point?
@pannenkoek2012
@pannenkoek2012 10 жыл бұрын
lol I tried this. Pausing doesn't seem to affect the in game timer :P
@Pheenoh
@Pheenoh 10 жыл бұрын
pannenkoek2012 unfortunate :(
@laalpattharkedevata
@laalpattharkedevata 5 жыл бұрын
blu-coin COIN-SHAPED ADHESIVE THAT CAN BE USED FOR: playing fixing sculpting mixing together other blu-coin
@ScyHigh
@ScyHigh 6 жыл бұрын
Would it be possible to clone BOTH the blue coin AND the Blue Coin Switch? Just a thought...
@DarkSpacer1
@DarkSpacer1 10 жыл бұрын
What is that void place? Did you/can you explain it?
@pannenkoek2012
@pannenkoek2012 10 жыл бұрын
I don't really know much about it. I've also gotten there in Big Boo's haunt by BLJ'ing on the elevator that goes up from the basement.
@iqbaltrojan
@iqbaltrojan 4 жыл бұрын
5:14 Stored upward pitch!
@Max-sv2qd
@Max-sv2qd 6 жыл бұрын
The things some people do for 5 coins... just kidding, great video
@ghosttwo2
@ghosttwo2 8 жыл бұрын
Mary-O. Can't unhear.
@laurarauhauser2350
@laurarauhauser2350 8 жыл бұрын
When did Super Mario Maker come into this SM64 channel?
@disturbedhalo117
@disturbedhalo117 10 жыл бұрын
What if you ground pound the blue coin block then clone the blue coin block and a blue coin before the timer runs out? There is most likely not enough time for this though.
@pannenkoek2012
@pannenkoek2012 10 жыл бұрын
You can't clone anything during the timer. Cloning involves going to the loading point, and doing that while the timer is running is the problem discussed in the video.
@sevie480
@sevie480 7 жыл бұрын
What about the blue coin at the beginning of the slide in Snowman's land? It doesn't use a block.
@AtmaDragoon
@AtmaDragoon 8 жыл бұрын
...Okay, I think I get what you're saying. Which is that we need to find a way to clone the object storage system.
@LysolPionex
@LysolPionex 7 жыл бұрын
What are you using to animate your explanations?
@NoriMori1992
@NoriMori1992 2 жыл бұрын
10:32 Ahhh… _there_ it is… 😁
@jhgvvetyjj6589
@jhgvvetyjj6589 Жыл бұрын
But how do the red coin clones work and how do they relate to the red coin counter?
@andrewmat
@andrewmat 6 жыл бұрын
Could it be a Pedro Spot that disabled mario to move in limbo world, instead of the coarseness of Mario's position?
@ehx3419
@ehx3419 7 жыл бұрын
Also, what happens if we somehow manage to clone both a coin AND the switch?
@Double-X2-Points
@Double-X2-Points Ай бұрын
2:34 "...and will cut short the timer's upwards trajectory"
@lilbruhddy
@lilbruhddy 6 жыл бұрын
0:20 insert good mythical morning intro
@josh.0
@josh.0 7 жыл бұрын
i hope you return one day my friend your insight is missed
@paulmiller9333
@paulmiller9333 8 жыл бұрын
What about the blue coins that drop from eyeballs, boos etc. The default attribute of these coins would be visible just like yellow coins
@Shmannel
@Shmannel 7 жыл бұрын
I guess i should figure out how your picking up the map objects, i guess game shark?
@Solibrae
@Solibrae 7 жыл бұрын
It's a process called cloning, where forcing Mario to hold an unloaded object makes other objects appear in his hands. It's a glitch, so no hacking needed. Pannenkoek's made lots of videos about this if you want to find out more...
@jasnploy
@jasnploy 10 жыл бұрын
Would it ever be possible to produce a second clone for the coin after making one for the cloned coin box?
@pannenkoek2012
@pannenkoek2012 10 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if I understand your question. You could clone a coin and collect it during the timer to collect it. Then after the timer runs out, Mario could leave and come back, and that blue coin would still be there, but invisible and intangible. In this state, you can still clone it again, but you can't collect the clone.
@jasnploy
@jasnploy 10 жыл бұрын
Okay, thanks. I was just wondering if collecting a coin as a clone would have the same effect (turning the coin invisible/intangible) as collecting the coin itself.
@Guilmon35249vr
@Guilmon35249vr 6 жыл бұрын
If only there were a way to clone both the block and the blue coin. Getting two clones during that small time frame would be difficult if not impossible. Can you even get two clones on WDW?
@Jonskipvp
@Jonskipvp 2 жыл бұрын
Would it be possible to clone the blue block AND a blue coin to get 1 more coin than 2 red coin clones would give you
@Jonskipvp
@Jonskipvp Жыл бұрын
nobody answered so ill do it myself: no. the blue coins and the block only load when you go through the loading point so you cant clone both
@czechslovakian
@czechslovakian 7 жыл бұрын
Is this the first video talking about PUs?
@Kiptytude
@Kiptytude 7 жыл бұрын
pretty sure i've seen you use more than 1 clone... wat's that about when you say you only get 1? is it becuase you need to reload and then the previous clone is useless?
@groszak1
@groszak1 7 жыл бұрын
What if you clone both?
@mychoco6195
@mychoco6195 7 жыл бұрын
what if you clone the blue coins first, collect them and then clone the coin box? because if you leave the loading area with the coins cloned and the coin box cloned and then enter the loading area again, everything should be back to normal and you can hit the coin box again and collect more blue coins
@shnobo9471
@shnobo9471 7 жыл бұрын
K then how do you explain the koopa that produces a blue coin?
@thecursor123
@thecursor123 9 жыл бұрын
Wait... in the SM64 multiplayer mod, can't Luigi also clone? And then, couldn't you be able to clone BOTH coin and block and preserve both? Just saying.
@Double-X2-Points
@Double-X2-Points Ай бұрын
I think someone cut short your audio quality's upwards trajectory!
@lillithplays6514
@lillithplays6514 8 ай бұрын
Does this apply to blue coins dropped by enemies?
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