Paragon Board Meta Analysis for Sorcerer in Diablo 4

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Zikorik

Жыл бұрын

Diablo 4 Sorcerer Paragon Board discussion analyzing different parts of the damage equation.
#diablo4 #diablo #sorcerer
Timestamps:
0:00 - Premise
1:36 - The Damage Equation
7:15 - Analysis
21:36 - Conclusion

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@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
Paragon Board Link: d4builds.gg/builds/35dcd314-acb6-42ca-a6ad-24667721ba50/ Spreadsheet (SEE NOTE BELOW): docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1os685eFP0r_8B6-ix0kr6UXbyfAQ6KDFVjj97fIygRc/edit#gid=1215380079 NOTE: Thanks to several people in the comments for pointing out the slight error with the equation: The Ice Shards should be just 35% instead of 135% in the final equation because the 35% represents the percentage of weapon damage you deal, which would be (100% weapon damage x 35% Ice shards). While this will change the final total, since everything is getting multiplied by the same number it would not change the final conclusion. RocketCat's Experiment: docs.google.com/document/d/1raFSYYfMYZ-ULXFsbGg5HUfm-qOHrRIYnKNpdL8HTKc/edit?pli=1 Best Paragon Board: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hpeEZt1n3Z6yc6c.html Best Paragon Glyph: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mZmdoaWKq6jblok.html
@metallicafan416
@metallicafan416 Жыл бұрын
Very nice content
@Hood8891
@Hood8891 Жыл бұрын
very interesting and complex topic. question i have though is, is it recommended to roll the chest piece with +X% cold dmg and/or +X% frost damage? the ring and amulet can roll those too but they have way more and better stats (to my understanding atleast)
@Dcraziii
@Dcraziii Жыл бұрын
What's the glyph that goes into “your main board” because im lost on whether it's control or frost bite or tactician or what
@Hood8891
@Hood8891 Жыл бұрын
​@@DcraziiiI'd love to help but I'm on mobile and the picture is way too tiny, compared to the wallpaper background, to specify anything
@Dcraziii
@Dcraziii Жыл бұрын
@@Hood8891same im On mobile and I can't see the glyph for either frigid or main build
@joshuaphilbert7995
@joshuaphilbert7995 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video, great work. My sorc just hit 50 and the paragon boards looked confusing as hell to me. Thank you for doing the homework and breaking this down for us💪
@superricky13
@superricky13 Жыл бұрын
Really helpful analysis! Just came back to listen again and understanding the formulas and seeing these tests helps me understand my choices MUCH better. Now i have plenty of damage and I can build utility stats on gear.
@martyluterman965
@martyluterman965 Жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT VIDEO!!! Thank you VERY much!! The way you broke down all the types of damage was very well done. It helped me tremendously and I am and will be following ALL of your videos!
@Hieuby_Dooby
@Hieuby_Dooby Жыл бұрын
thank you for all the work you put in for all of us sweaty min max sorc players!
@SLJB8
@SLJB8 Жыл бұрын
Definitely worthy of a mention! This isn't even for minmaxing. This is simply an instructional on do this to deal damage as a sorc or deal no damage at all lol.
@JrDriver85
@JrDriver85 Жыл бұрын
This video up'd my cold damage from 281 to 516. Big thank you! Keep the videos coming!
@madweazl
@madweazl Жыл бұрын
Super helpful in understanding how dmg was calculated overall with a cherry on top explaining how the buckets work together.
@kimball4699
@kimball4699 Жыл бұрын
I truly love this kind of in depth info. Super informative! 👍🏽
@ogtainui3694
@ogtainui3694 Жыл бұрын
This is on another level bro, after watching this a cuply times aswell as ur other 2vids, i have a better understanding on how it all fits together now, my build is doing much better now after watching this, i appreciate ur in depth information where as other youtubers dont do, thanks heaps bro, youve earned a sub from me 😊
@maurice4212
@maurice4212 Жыл бұрын
I literally sat through this whole lecture. This is the type of info I like to have when starting a new character. I’ve done my time in the Druid cell. Now it’s time to dig deep in the sorc. In which you’ve just equipped me with some high knowledge from the Horodram itself lmfao! Thank you my guy. And bless you for this thorough calculation that I was able to actually understand. Subscribed! And sharing with the fellas. ❤
@Davidd419
@Davidd419 Жыл бұрын
I have been following you since your first videos. Thank you for doing the more complicated math and figuring out what needs to be built up first. As soon as I got to paragon I was looking for a video explanation like yours and glad I found it levels ago. 100% agree with your overall assessment and it has helped me with my leveling. I play a highly mobile Teleport, Blizzard, Conjuring and CD reduction barrier based build so damage and lucky hit have been my focus since the start and I have been consistently able to fight stuff about 20 levels above since level 40 without much trouble. I pretty much went from level II to III finally beating the campaign at 55 and from III to IV at around 60. Focusing on the non-physical damage really helps those who like to make hybrid builds using abilities from Frost, Fire and Shock.
@5133937
@5133937 Жыл бұрын
This is excellent, the best video explanation of D4 damage mechanics I've seen yet. @12:15 brilliant observation about the weird math quirk. Great stuff, liked, subbed, and set Notifications to 'All'.
@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
Ayy thanks friend :D I love math quirks lol I don't think I had actually fully realized this one or had at least forgotten about it until doing this analysis
@GSquid24
@GSquid24 Жыл бұрын
This is the guide I have been looking for, thank you for your hard work
@ldsupa87
@ldsupa87 Жыл бұрын
Some real game changing insight into how the damage buckets work together. Thanks!
@ccchrisco
@ccchrisco Жыл бұрын
Yeah this 100% earned a sub. I love numbers and this is what I needed. Thanks for putting in the leg work here, going to tinker around with the spreadsheet.
@bazenga82
@bazenga82 Жыл бұрын
Holy crap, that was freaking awesome! Much love, and thank you my dude! Incredible video.
@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
thanks homie :D was an interesting one to make
@suhdude5080
@suhdude5080 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate this video. Definitely learning more everyday to make my sorcerer better 👍🏽
@MixingPigment
@MixingPigment Жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you!!!! This is extremely helpful. I wish we had DPS meters in the game, would be exceptionally helpful. But your work here has explained so much. Will probably have to watch this several times, not gonna lie. Thank you, most beneficial Sorc video I’ve seen!!
@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
awesome comment thanks for the feedback, I also wish we had dps meters lol
@MixingPigment
@MixingPigment Жыл бұрын
@@Zikorik I started adjusting the Paragon board accordingly. Just struggling a bit seeing that I’m running arclash, ball lighting build. But getting there I hope. I’m level 96. It seems at this level I’m not noticing much change in DPS no matter which I way I go, regarding boards or glyphs. It’s a bit challenging. Any suggestion for boards and glyphs for arc lash, lightning, ball lighting builds?
@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
@@MixingPigment something like this I think could work quite well with the last 20 going wherever you think they fit best. Let me know how it ends up feeling: d4builds.gg/builds/308039f2-8ff7-4fb6-b739-51c5a7a1a3f0/
@EnlightenedBitFox
@EnlightenedBitFox Жыл бұрын
Holy crap.. what a video :D It is a lot of information, but it is great! I am very curious to build your suggests into my build. I definitely will try out to add the static surge board
@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
awesome would love to hear how it feels after the changes
@chanyy78
@chanyy78 Жыл бұрын
I wish i had watched your explanations much earlier, because i was struggling with my Sorcerer build. Watching other content creator helps a little bit, but man, your explanation is just on another level.
@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
Thanks homie glad it's helping :D
@illusionsky
@illusionsky 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for putting the work into this, it seems to hold true so far since a lot of changes haven't been made to the Paragon boards.
@ericchapman8912
@ericchapman8912 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the work and explanation. Outstanding job bud.
@verygr8ful156
@verygr8ful156 Жыл бұрын
Your information is incredibly helpful, especially for those of us who are math challenged and yet love math, logic, reason and order. These applied to the Sorceress are clearly a gift. I have had mine from the start of D4 and have always felt she has the power you discuss here within in her.
@edvaedan9161
@edvaedan9161 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been using the physical/non physical primary focus on all my boards. Nice to see the validation!
@TheBillxyz
@TheBillxyz Жыл бұрын
Amazing work and truly appreciated analysis. Linear algebra often used in operations research if anyone likes doing this stuff I highly encourage you to pursue it professionally there are not a lot of people who can understand and do this stuff.
@cembanditx1
@cembanditx1 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate your work. I got into WT4 at 66 and thought I was going to get one shottedright away, pleased to find I was wiping helltide up and grabbing ancestral gear without much issue out of the gate. I know the one shot misery is coming but for now I’m enjoying the class a lot fighting level 75 mobs at 67
@Matthewcmiel
@Matthewcmiel Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, seriously!
@mayorsoul
@mayorsoul Жыл бұрын
I felt like I was in a math class and SOMEHOW I learned more watching this video compared to how I was learning math in school.
@Zikorik
@Zikorik 11 ай бұрын
Math is much more interesting when applied to something we actually care about lol, like blasting more demons :D
@jerrys9136
@jerrys9136 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to your build guide for season 1 thanks so much!
@ryuichiro.sakuraba
@ryuichiro.sakuraba Жыл бұрын
Running an hybrid Blizzard ice spikes + Ice Shards sorc and thought of the same thing - build base damage first before having the multipliers kick in. The leveling of the sorc in the early 50s to 60s was a lot of tweaking (and praying for good loot) as getting power early on allows Crit, Vuln, and the x multipliers from gear and Aspects shine, including those random Overpower procs. Much appreciate the work done on the recommended Paragon setup! Using Icefall as the 3rd board, it worked wonders having the Cold damage% and damage to Chilled targets covered so additional multipliers (Crit, Vuln, etc.) would have some nice base damage to boost. As Frozen targets are considered Chilled according to game dev's tweet, this felt wonderful on my previous Ice Shards build, and now a hybrid build which I prefer more. It was an ordeal to respec Paragon boards and with the info on these and some testing, I was able to build the best iteration of my Sorc at the moment, sitting at Lv97 and relatively doing okay with NM mobs up to 10 levels higher than me unless there are uber detrimental affixes, lightning obelisks + support shaman buffing the heck out of mobs, a mis-Teleport, or lag + Drifting Shade. 😅 He's a literal glass cannon who cannot take punishment very well haha Also, I am not sure as I haven't dived in fully to Lightning or Fire builds, I might be wrong but it seems like for the 3rd paragon board (the preferred element for damage) have different optimal paths and number of nodes to reach the namesake nodes, glyph slots and desired rare nodes. 🤔
@MrShokolol
@MrShokolol Жыл бұрын
Thank you again, this helped me so much in trying to find and min max my HC paragon build ! I think i finally found something very nice, now i have to put it at test.
@leroywetini2897
@leroywetini2897 Жыл бұрын
Love it, great work mate 👍👌
@smalps-gaming
@smalps-gaming Жыл бұрын
This was great man! Thanks so much!
@anthonysilvernail5128
@anthonysilvernail5128 Жыл бұрын
this is an awesome video. very well explained. thank you. i actually understand now!!
@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
me too lol feels good :D
@Warpedpassage1
@Warpedpassage1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great explanation.
@willsaffel1634
@willsaffel1634 Жыл бұрын
most interesting math lesson i've ever had Thanks for this! motivated me to log in again now that i understand wtf is going on
@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
It makes me sad that school beats the love of math out of us lol, it can be quite interesting when applied to shit we care about
@dale1890
@dale1890 Жыл бұрын
I watched this last night. I got on this morning and swapped my boards. I made this the 3rd board. I hit lvl 76 today. I went from 23 to 33 nightmare dungeon with no issues. It actually went about the same. Helltide was a breeze. I don't know how much difference it made but it definitely feels stronger. So THANKS!
@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
great to hear keep blastin
@necromaddy
@necromaddy Жыл бұрын
@@Zikorik i tried this yesterday and i notice i drop 10 tiers from NM dungeons :( is this not applicable to ice shards build...
@robinwesterbeeke1498
@robinwesterbeeke1498 Жыл бұрын
Also curious to see the next vid! Season is only a week away and it would be great to get an update video.
@arthas_stormr8ge877
@arthas_stormr8ge877 Жыл бұрын
Dude this video is fucking fantastic, legit the best sorc video by far. I’ve learned so much from this it’s crazy. I give mad props bro!👍👍👍👍
@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
hell ya thanks friend that's why I make em :D I like your username lol
@arthas_stormr8ge877
@arthas_stormr8ge877 Жыл бұрын
@@Zikorik thanks it’s the first compliment I’ve gotten from it! I don’t think ppl play much WoW these days lol!
@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
@@arthas_stormr8ge877 lmao one of my all time favorites I've never truly stopped playin, always off and on - actually was messing around with classic hardcore for a bit before D4 came out and was having a blast
@Gamma_Labs
@Gamma_Labs Жыл бұрын
Just subbed. Great info. More vids plz
@johnhoffstater4111
@johnhoffstater4111 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the spreadsheet bucket damage.
@blaskbulwark2881
@blaskbulwark2881 Жыл бұрын
I've been making my own spreadsheets and notes while im at work. For when I'm afk, love this content!
@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
lesgoooo you sound like me
@paulmitchell4968
@paulmitchell4968 Жыл бұрын
Thank you this is awesome!
@AussieLoz
@AussieLoz Жыл бұрын
Thank you, thank you, thank you!! This (and your other 2 videos) have changed the way I think about my Ice Shard Sorc. So many build videos focus on building up crit and vulnerable and don't even mention non-physical damage. I'm level 75 and once I reconfigured my paragon boards as you described, it changed my ability to clear NM dungeons significantly. I only wish I had known this before I started leveling up my glyphs...I can't wait to see how things change again once I have the enchanter glyph leveled up! One question I have is, do the different forms of Control stack? e.g. If I'm using the Control aspect on gear and have the Control glyph sloted in my paragon board, how do they interact with each other? Thanks again.
@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
Awesome to hear, ty for the feedback. Those should stack and multiply against eachother as far as I can tell. In general the glyph bonuses and legendary aspects seem to each get placed in their own new group in the damage equation, getting multiplied by everything else. Not 100% on this but I believe that is how it is working.
Жыл бұрын
I just want to sit back and enjoy the game without the complexity of the paragon min maxing 😢 Glad you are here and did the hard job for all players, we appreciate it deeply. Thank you mate.
@originsmaster8140
@originsmaster8140 Жыл бұрын
I very rarely give likes on videos but MAN! This was so thorough and incredible!
@Tarrimaster
@Tarrimaster Жыл бұрын
I literally sat up last night working this shit out in Excel..and now I see this haha. Great stuff mate.
@traplord7668
@traplord7668 Жыл бұрын
Awesome analysis!
@VastoLorde1234
@VastoLorde1234 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely beautiful video and information. Numbers and facts, it's what we love as Sorc, now all Blizzard needs to do is fix the numbers and what they ACTUALLY do vs represent, and maybe look into the fact we have a Glyph that literally does nothing... because there isn't "bonus cold damage" in any node type.
@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
100% agree, winter glyph is so sad. Also with the recent patch they still didn't fix it, my sorc is supposedly at +735% cold dmg LOL
@xlr82nrg666
@xlr82nrg666 Жыл бұрын
Masterpiece, subbed.
@caseyferebee7817
@caseyferebee7817 Жыл бұрын
This was very informative man. Very well spoken and thought out. Got a sub from me! Killing it 🤙
@Zikorik
@Zikorik 11 ай бұрын
yoo thanks for the feedback homie much appreciated
@mojojojo560
@mojojojo560 Жыл бұрын
Truly amazing work my guy!
@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
ty :D
@jajkowikorjajko
@jajkowikorjajko Жыл бұрын
Amazing work man 😘
@robertg420
@robertg420 11 ай бұрын
great work, can't wait to see how this works with my blizzard sorc's progression into endgame
@legegee7275
@legegee7275 Жыл бұрын
Insane video ur smart as heck dude this was nice and cool to understand
@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
haha thanks friend , understanding is the coolest :D was honestly very interesting to make I learned a lot
@Nerashin
@Nerashin Жыл бұрын
Finally a video that fully explains it. 1 question, this affects ice shards directly, how about ice spikes on the glacier or tundra aspect? @Zikorik
@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
I believe that aspects like that act as weapon damage, so basically for the first part of the equation instead of having weapon dmg x skill dmg, you would replace those 2 with your aspect damage and run the equation, so the damage modifier group, the crit group, and the vulnerability group should multiplicatively scale it. Not 100% on this though, will be making a video covering specifically aspects and will for sure cover it there. Great question.
@Naturalhigh8
@Naturalhigh8 11 ай бұрын
holy hell i feel smarter just listening to this..... and it really helped clarify a lot that i've been trying to find. tyvm
@Zikorik
@Zikorik 11 ай бұрын
Great to hear it helped :D
@Naturalhigh8
@Naturalhigh8 11 ай бұрын
@@Zikorik where would conjuration damage come in? the additive bucket?
@JP-hh3mt
@JP-hh3mt 10 ай бұрын
I just wanted to say this is probably the most useful sorc video for Diablo 4. Finally someone has provided a way to figure out damage. The Attack Power number in the game is so WORTHLESS. Your spreadsheet is really terrific. I'd also like to point out that, while Diablo 4 is an unfinished game with a lot of problems - and I feel Blizzard has earned most of the vitriol they've received, they did succeed in making MUCH more build variety than Diablo 3. There are MANY variations of wizard that can be played and have them be viable if you put the time in. Fire Sorc still struggles, but it can work. Anyway. BIG THANKS!!!!
@rizwansiddiqi7679
@rizwansiddiqi7679 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the breakdown.
@MarkParsonsCPA
@MarkParsonsCPA Жыл бұрын
Magic! Amazing work!
@doncabonara2232
@doncabonara2232 Жыл бұрын
Very well explained nice video u got my sub
@Riain880
@Riain880 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video, @Zikorik. Question for you, how does Lightning Critical Damage as a stat interact with damage modifiers? Is it an entirely different multiplicative bucket from normal Critical Damage, or do they just get added together as a total value to be calculated?
@Mouse__Jerry
@Mouse__Jerry Жыл бұрын
What a great video! So glad YT recommended your channel to me. I always like things to be analyzed on a mathematical and objective way, so your channel is an instant subscribe for me. Will you be releasing any sorc build in the future that will be mathematically the best?
@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
I'll be doing a few more videos on glyphs, aspects, and skills to understand the fundamentals then definitely will be making some build guides before the start of season 1! Thanks for watching and the thoughtful comment.
@bulochka_s_makom2258
@bulochka_s_makom2258 Жыл бұрын
massive info , ty
@legi0n47x
@legi0n47x Жыл бұрын
Glad the algorithm showed this to me. Rolled a sorc for my second char and wanted to go lightning or fire. Found frost boring, am currently on firewall/meteor at lvl 54. While getting to paragon with my renown points did help up my damage as I was struggling before that, I still feel behind and have been considering scrapping the class. Already see some changes I could make to boost what I have been doing, as well as now need better gear than what I have in a big way.
@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
hope it is working out for you!
@kenc5199
@kenc5199 Жыл бұрын
I believe I had pointed out that a good example is that your crit/vul/over is all based off of your prime damage type ie cold,frost so the higher your cold or frost the greater your crit will be, this seems to me what everyone is missing. Ppl just think crit is crit. Blizzard sorc ice spikes crit big time and the crit is directly effected by how much cold dam I have.
@ryan17stehle
@ryan17stehle Жыл бұрын
fantastic work and explanation. Now I just need to understand how certain legendary affixes work and which damage buckets those go in...
@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
It seems like most legendary affixes basically replace the first two parts of the equation (weapon dmg x skill damage), so they will still scale and get multiplied by everything in the other groups, weapon and skill damage just has no affect on them
@49Trya
@49Trya Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the work, spreadsheet ! Definitely gonna use that to explore ! Talking about whats meta, I'm just starting to dip my toes into min-maxing so I could very easily be wrong but ... wouldn't it make sense to include in those calculations the devouring blaze passive ? It seems like a massively widely used passive skill with a nearly 100% uptime from the first ice shard and could change by a big margin the value of the crit board wouldn't it ?
@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
yes this is a good point, there actually seem to be a lot of additional multipliers like that that I missed that could influence the calculation - I think my next video will take a look at glyph analysis like this and talk about how the multipliers work, then the one after that cover the sorcerer skills that multiply by devouring blaze and see how they influence the results. ty for the feedback!
@garylim5600
@garylim5600 11 ай бұрын
@@Zikorikhow are your other boards adding up? Can we take a look
@arcarum
@arcarum Жыл бұрын
thx for the work. whoa !!!
@Tom_Rose
@Tom_Rose Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this awesome vid! I wonder, what are your thoughts about: 1. The Burning instinct for scaling damage against burning enemies with the fire bolt enchantment? 2. Scaling mana to above 100 to increase crit chance to near 100% with the elementalist aspect?
@Ahzxi
@Ahzxi Жыл бұрын
Hi Zikorik! Amazing vid as always. I was wondering if you’re planning on making an updated video on this and whether you’d be doing a build showcase?
@Zikorik
@Zikorik 11 ай бұрын
yoo thanks homie, sorry for the slow response on this I've been getting more comments than I'm used to trying to keep up - idk if you have seen but I released my chain shatter build guide last week that uses a final setup very similar to this, here is the build link and the video has a lot more details: d4builds.gg/builds/66249625-c549-4497-bb26-9eb3b840d6d5/
@olafvonmaikowski5597
@olafvonmaikowski5597 Жыл бұрын
Hey Zikorik, really great work! Thank you so much for all of this work, really appreciate it. Do you have any recommended paragon builds? specially for ice builds. Thank you and kind regards
@Zikorik
@Zikorik 11 ай бұрын
Appreciate the comment homie, I really like a setup like this for Ice, this is what I am using with my chain shatter build and is very similar to what is shown at the end of this video to try to max out the damage equation: d4builds.gg/builds/66249625-c549-4497-bb26-9eb3b840d6d5/
@NS-kt1sj
@NS-kt1sj Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, Zizorik! I'm always torn between using Enchantment Master as second board or not.
@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
np, hopefully with the spreadsheet now you can run your own numbers and know for sure when its better or not :D
@deat123
@deat123 Жыл бұрын
great video, wondering if you be doing a video talking about the interactive of glyphs and other multiplier and how it impacts the dps? thanks
@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
100% I think based on the feedback from you guys these will be my next couple videos - glyphs and their multiplier interactions, then skills, then aspects. thanks for watching and the comment
@nogheadz4987
@nogheadz4987 Жыл бұрын
Amazing!
@ggn1
@ggn1 Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate this. I honestly don’t know why I follow maxroll guides Should I focus on gear stars with intellect instead of crit, vulnerability, and other conditional damage?
@Goblin3365
@Goblin3365 Жыл бұрын
I’ll tell you this helps ALOT on your damage! It changed everything for me - lvl 80 Lightning sorc and i could only do like 70-150k at max before but after changing the whole board(s) i now do up to 400k dmg!
@yaminator82
@yaminator82 Жыл бұрын
Nice.. did you copy the board path of the video?
@Goblin3365
@Goblin3365 Жыл бұрын
@@yaminator82 i started with enchanter board, then frigid fate board with destruction glyph and actually took the board with the bruning damage as number 3 board
@Goblin3365
@Goblin3365 Жыл бұрын
@@yaminator82 as long as you get enchanter board and frigid fate + destruction and enchanter glyph you are pretty Well set imo
@yaminator82
@yaminator82 Жыл бұрын
@@Goblin3365Thanks bro.. i'm using Arc lash at level 86,but sometimes i'm think my char can do better. I'll try this config. Thanks my friend. 🙏
@yaminator82
@yaminator82 Жыл бұрын
@@Goblin3365 Do you use Core skill in your build?
@bazenga82
@bazenga82 Жыл бұрын
The paragon board layout you display starting at 22:41. I'm confused because on the board you see the glyph names in yellow and then the overlay text shows glyph names but they differ. Is there anyway you can share your paragon build planner link?
@Kakataeh
@Kakataeh Жыл бұрын
Please do!
@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
ya sorry for the confusion d4builds.gg/builds/bcab8d72-7e11-4e1b-bd77-f37a5eb0a74b/ This is what I would run as frost sorcerer, with 3rd board being whatever your main element is for your build or the main legendary node you need. Control and Tactician can be switched out for build specific glyphs if you're not CC'n much or only running one defensive, but these both have additional modifiers that are quite strong that I'll cover in my next video
@Feralswipes
@Feralswipes Жыл бұрын
Best thing to do is use the node boost glyph on the vuln board, and the vuln glyph on the burning board to get the most vuln possible. Also more glyphs is usually better than more nodes because u just get way more from the glyphs. Early game tho this is solid advice
@ggn1
@ggn1 Жыл бұрын
Can you provide a paragon board link?
@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
This is my best look so far with the middle board being replaced by whatever your main build board is (so mine is Icefall as frost). This gives 3 boards and glyphs that influence different parts of the damage equation getting multiplied by eachother (Enchanter / Enchanter for non-physical, Exploit / Frigid Fate for vuln, and Searing Heat / Destruction for crit), all positioned to max out their scaling, with whatever your main build board in the middle benefiting from all these bonuses: d4builds.gg/builds/35dcd314-acb6-42ca-a6ad-24667721ba50/
@S3v3rd
@S3v3rd Жыл бұрын
Amazing, subscribed, you earned it, and then some. Hopefully, more give see this and stop repeating the crit/vul meta for sorc Lvling.
@GamerNesto
@GamerNesto Жыл бұрын
Great video @zikorik .I have a question tho, if my main board is the Searing Heat (Meteor Main). Static Surge board should be last then?
@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
If your build has a stun mechanic or you are really trying to max out another dex scaling glyph I would say yes for sure, otherwise probably the only other one worth considering may be the summoner board for the one more cluster of non-physical nodes and a decent scaling socket for dex/int/will
@GamerNesto
@GamerNesto Жыл бұрын
@@Zikorik Thanks for the reply! I did end up putting Searing Heat as main board and Static Surge as last one, I was able to grab all the important nodes. However, as for the Destruction Glyph, that only applies to core skills right (Fireball etc.)? Just to double check.
@yangermanagement
@yangermanagement 5 күн бұрын
Hey, Zik! I just wanted to ask if, considering the changes to the vuln and crit damage buckets, if you made any changes to this. As always, thank you for everything you do. 🤩
@elgb4053
@elgb4053 Жыл бұрын
Hey man. Came back just to say I tried your paragon board setup and it was a game changer for me. I unlocked t4 at lvl66 and felt kinda like a tourist. Helltides and regular dungeons had me on edge when it was normally a breeze at t3. Anyway. Changed the setup and goddamn. I’m back to shredding. So wanted to give a big thank you. Have some questions if you don’t mind. Does non physical damage apply to perks like +x% dmg to frozen/chilled/vulnerable enemies? Or it only applied to cold fire lightning? Second question is can we see your gear? I want those numbers and I think it’s my gear that needs a touch. Wanted to have a look at what yours is. Can you share? Third question it which socket between control and exploit should we go for at the enchantment board? Thanks in advance man and keep up the great work honestly.
@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
Hell ya this makes me happy lol this is why I make these kinds of videos. Really glad it's workin out for you. All great questions and exactly the direction I will be headed with my next couple videos based on the feedback from everyone: glyphs and how they multiply, then skills, aspects, and gear. I think based on these numbers I would probably favor the exploit glyph for the enchanter board slightly more just because the way the raw stats get multiplied, but the control glyph is kinda insane if you have a lot of cc for how big the multiplier is both in the raw stats and the bonus. For my sorc I did control first but I'm leveling up exploit now and I think best would probably be exploit first for enchanter board and then control for the next socket you hit on 3rd board
@coronachan19
@coronachan19 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@shadamyrr12
@shadamyrr12 Жыл бұрын
bruh , this shuts down anyone else who says otherwise. its like perfection coming from the mouth of a specialist who specializes in perfection. =D
@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
lmao
@sticstackbattlewhack
@sticstackbattlewhack Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a full level 100 board set up
@vahngaming7107
@vahngaming7107 Жыл бұрын
Nice video, I just wanna ask if your calculation include the [x] as a multiplier to other primary sources or is that the additive that all dmg u included with the non conditional?
@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
I believe additional multipliers like that each get added as their own new category and multiplied by the full equation - great question will definitely cover this in the next video and talk about the additional bonus multipliers on the glyphs
@tdotfun
@tdotfun Жыл бұрын
@@Zikorik I too, am very interested in the "x" multipliers. If they are a multiplier of the full equation, then we should try to get as many glyphs with those multi's instead of taking x (ex. 10 non-physical damage)? I.e. using paragon points to get another board?
@vahngaming7107
@vahngaming7107 Жыл бұрын
@@tdotfun they way they interact is they are multipliers within their type. say 10%[x] dmg to burning enemies, for each point of dmg to burning enemies u multiply it by 1.10. So for both the control aspect and the bonus on the control glyph are multipliers of each their own type of cc but overall an additive to the modifier.
@curtishiers3373
@curtishiers3373 Жыл бұрын
Awesome work Zikorik! Can you please create a build guide video for a frost sorcerer? Thanks
@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
Yes I will 100%, going to be hitting a couple more videos like this to cover glyphs, skills, aspects, and gear then will be getting out some build guides before season 1 starting with frost sorcerer chain shatter build :D thanks for watching and the comment!
@kenc5199
@kenc5199 8 ай бұрын
Loved your first d4 vids explaining this, you should change the title to beginner understanding boards and glyph power. I had to keep explaining why my damage was so high without having massive investment in just vul or crit. Finally would just point them to your vids. Or tell them they need to buff there base dam type phys or non before everything else. Then endgame respect to make sure you activate board nodes that have the highest value because your Intel or dex requirement will be out of reach on your last board or boards. Does this reflect season 2 changes
@israelvillamizar22
@israelvillamizar22 Жыл бұрын
Can you also share how your paragon board looks like? i followed your recomendation and oh boy, the damage went up dramatically. so thanks for opening my eyes. i would like to compare boards and see if i can optimize it even more.
@johnchua5153
@johnchua5153 Жыл бұрын
Can you discuss the opportunity cost of running Aspect of the Elementalist? To maintain smooth QOL in actually playing you need to sacrifice affix and paragon points for max mana + and some form of resource generation or cost reduction. This 100% skews your crit gear numbers as its not insignificant.
@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
Great thought, I think in my next several videos we will take a look at glyphs, then skills and aspects to see which ones multiply and how they affect the damage equation. I will definitely cover this in the aspects video. ty for the thoughtful feedback
@drummerchicago
@drummerchicago Жыл бұрын
best video for D4 ever
@adamtaing9391
@adamtaing9391 Жыл бұрын
amazing video!! would you mind posting board with the optimal beginning setup so we can refer to it?
@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
yes good idea I will add a link to the pinned comment
@lbpiercy
@lbpiercy Жыл бұрын
How is your Sorc build video coming along? Only 1 weekend left before season 1 and I want to try your final build before the season. I am thinking of trying Rogue for season 1.
@johnreese9928
@johnreese9928 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff and thank you for sharing. Just curious... Why not use the Tactician Glyph in either your enchanter or frigid fate board and work your way to a 6th board by changing your pathing? You could add elemental summoner and pick up some mana along the way to a glyph socket with decent dex around it.
@claurencejohnperez1116
@claurencejohnperez1116 Жыл бұрын
Can you share to us your paragon board?
@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
Some good thoughts for sure - the final board shown here was really just to represent the idea of how you could combine the three ideas in this video because of how they are all different parts of the damage equation, not necessarily for the most optimized final setup. The next video I'm workin on will take a look at glyphs in more detail and will cover tactiction, certainly could be a viable one with more than one defensive skill in use. ty for the thoughtful comment
@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
Frigid Fate board is actually a perfect spot for tactician because it's the lowest dex but just enough to bring online the additional bonus, and the glyphs raw stats don't scale off dex they actually increase the effectiveness of your vulnerability nodes a bit, love this thanks
@johnreese9928
@johnreese9928 Жыл бұрын
@@Zikorik That is awesome suggestion to use tactitian in the Frigid Fate board for even greater boost to vulnerability damage. So I hit lvl 100 last night and I have to say that I am feeling extra squishy! Running nightmare dungeons at 55 or higher sigil strength is doable but I find myself reviving 2 times or more per dungeon. Any thoughts into using a glyph like Adept to add some boost to damage but also more damage mitigation to allow another second or two to burst down some of the higher level elite mobs?
@johnreese9928
@johnreese9928 Жыл бұрын
@@claurencejohnperez1116 No boards to share here but I can tell you that my boards look very similar to Zikorik's in this video. As do most folks who are running the frost Sorc I would imagine. I am certain that as he levels and uses more of the boards and glyph's, Zikorik will have some great details on optimal board layouts and paragon pathing.
@PeatySpirit
@PeatySpirit Жыл бұрын
I think that multiplicative thing is very similar to the diminishing returns in many fields of human endeavors.
@hilding2063
@hilding2063 Жыл бұрын
Awesome work, subscribe. Could you do a video for lightning, cold, fire paragon respectively, all starting with enchanter of course
@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
haha yes for sure I like where your heads at - gonna try to do one on glyphs and skills/aspects like this next I think, will add those to the list though I'll do my best
@hilding2063
@hilding2063 Жыл бұрын
@@Zikorik Thank you really appreciate it.
@newtonryann
@newtonryann Жыл бұрын
Great video! I know that took a while so thank you very much. A couple things: 1. Where is the link to the Excel? People can just make a copy without having to manually replicate. 2. Ex. "This changed by 400%" since these numbers are a comparison of two different percentages, these would be referred to as percentage points.. fixed Ex. "This changed by 400pp". 3.Thanks again ;) Subscribed.
@Zikorik
@Zikorik 11 ай бұрын
Great feedback ty, I will definitely mention the copy thing the next time I use a spreadsheet! As well as try to use the correct percentage terminology lol. Sorry for the slow response on this the link should be in the pinned comment
@ki1631
@ki1631 Жыл бұрын
you make some great videos man keep it up!
@Zikorik
@Zikorik Жыл бұрын
Thanks homie :D
@wheninmanila
@wheninmanila Жыл бұрын
Would love to see your endgame Ice Sorc Paragon Boards please
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