Wade Haden good luck finding that in this day and age.

In a word yes. To me it feels like when you're trying to understand some down a fuzzy phone line or if you are trying to pick up what they are saying with only mouth movements and no sound. It's like info has to be filtered through something before it gets to my brain.

Wade Haden No no. That's different. I know what that feels like. I have been tested since replying here and now I know what it was. It's called "impaired processing speed". Even though my IQ is high or high end of average depending on the test, I process info slowly. To an impaired rate. At the time of responding here, I didn't know what it was and thought everyone who has Autism has it. That's not the case. I also have mind blindness and a working memory impairment. These things are all just part of how the pervasive developmental part of my Autism case manifested for me. Wanted to just leave that in here in case anyone else goes through this.

ASMRWhisperLight. That's exactly how it feels or sometimes people talk too fast and I feel like they are speaking a different language. I can't understand them because I don't have time to register it and my working memory impairment prevents me from going back to it in my mind and working it out. I have had a lot of help on this since I made this comment, which I am grateful for.

can I show this to my therapist

exactly. it’s not paranoia if you’re actually being targeted or hated lol

Pffth...

Maybe, maybe not. Work in facts and details, all of them, and create the most comprehensive picture first. Ask

Truth! And let’s talk about who has the empathy deficit! I was ostracized, bullied, put down constantly for my natural traits until I learned to mask the sufficiently. Even teachers and other adults would say incredibly mean things about me for things I had no control over. Being undiagnosed, I look back and realize I had a cycle of great life, meltdowns, shutdowns, and burnout. Unmasking and self care is hard because there is still such a negative view of autism. Like “maybe you have autism, but sometimes I think you’re using it as an excuse to avoid responsibility.”

I personally think NTs are nuts 🤣 Because theyr'e so vague, their communication is based on unspoken rules. We're from another planet. Luckily I hope I am not paranoid as I am able to intuitively pick on peoples micro expressions (If i can focus on them without overwhelm). Thank you for hyper focused special interests such as psychology and body language! Anaylsing people burns out my cpu. I usually give them the benefit of the doubt unless I see a pattern of red flags of their behaviour...to other people. Aka those with NPD or what not. Nts are difficult to anaysle because they are so...neutral and yet vague a lot of the time. I hope that makes sense and i havent offended anyone in being frank. I say it in jest. Obviously we're from another planet 🤣

It's because she thought you were at the top of the monument.... just as I read it

Can you say more? Do you have ASD?

They have mindBlindnesssss, i explain to him all the time on my positive motive but its hard. Maybe he is depressed by whatever i said by his misinterpretion.......the neg spin............

most people are rarely honest really...neurotypicals...i find us aspies very honest and thats one reason we dont fit in

This is a huge problem. i have only ever loved my husband but he gets these episodes and says I'm out to get him and I try to give him room and love him through it but it's so exhausting to be proving myself daily. it's like i need to bring character references to him daily. I'm NICE. I do good things. I am well liked, I like you back. There's no getting through. I am not here to hurt you!! If I'm honest from the beginning, how can I ever get through :(

ThePAULOPABLO I'm nothing but honest. Ive only lied five times in my life and they were more of "sure! You csn believe that". I prefer to think I was just "raised right"

Clarification on MOTIVE for what the other person is saying.

Yes. But at the same time this bullying can come from the lack of picking up on certain ques and the paranoia itself. It's kind of a self fulfilling prophecy.

+Alexander Layko Well said. I have been excluded mostly dude to my autistic problems. But I like being alone most of the time. It is easier that way.

+Alexander Layko what do you know about that problem? have you ever had that happen to you?

+Alexander Layko I am married to a guy on the spectrum and what Hutton describes is *exactly* what happens in our relationship All. The. Time. I ask a question or make a statement, with zero ill-intentions, and he turns it around into something negative. I am full of compassion for my husband, who was indeed bullied, misunderstood, and manipulated by many in his life. I am not one of those people, though, and so yes, I resent perpetually being made into the Bad Guy when I ask a truly innocent question or make an observation.

Chris Musser I feel for you Chris. Makes me think I might be doing the same to people in my life at times. Thank you for sharing. It's hard to get to know yourself better. And it's pretty hard to see you've been treating people in a mean way with no reason. Especially because we auti's (or at east I) don't have the intention of hurting people. We just have a defense mechanism that fires at the wrong time. There are forms of therapy that focus on this misfiring of defense mechanisms. But it's a Dutch book and Dutch method. I''m not sure if there is a British or American equivalent. If you would like to know if there is one, let me know. I'll try and find something like it.

Me too,for some reason Dr Hutten thinks people generally care enough to take the time to do this.

peter nicholson Even my parents were laughing at me. They thought I was splitting hairs.

peter nicholson, no believe me, Dr Hutten understands that majority of people don't take the time to make things clearer to people like us. But think about it, that's only because majority of people don't really understand what aspergers/autism is.

Vince Sandefur He might have explained that better perhaps?

aragornthebrave The only problem is that those nice people aren't in those places where we need to be.

Joey Hartman Yes. Exactly.

actually, if you ask someone "why did you do that" with that "tone" - instead of curiosity, yes, it will incite some resentment back. that's what this whole video is about entirely.

Joey Hartman it's hard I know Joey but you're not an idiot. Sometimes it is better not to ask in certain scenarios or with certain people or even wait til it's an appropriate time later if you really get stuck . Try to take the individual and timing into account. Ie if someone is in a rush asking them to break down a detailed explanation might not be the best idea :p I have found for me personally I can worry myself too much by unnecessary asking when if I stop and think about it I can figure it out . It helps to have a calm mind but I know it's never easy. Stay positive x

u cant really deal w/ these creatures, especially aspies!! if "regular" people have issues w/ them what about aspies who'll get eaten alive

flrgz I hate you!you have no idea what low depression is caused by these people endurance is last resort!

corsican lulu actually that not precisely always true it has to with environmental issues. and biological science. by the way learn social socials too just cause this video never makes of the boss being the problem see label left NT with personality disorder. use your cognition get an higher education!

***** let everyone live it the right thing to do!

corsican lulu I dealt with a narcissistic person before. They are a nightmare and I still have anxiety, depression, and paranoia from that experience.

Do you think Kurt was an Aspie?

“When I was an alien, cultures weren’t opinions.”

@@markolsson1539 Cuz he was... Alot of people dont know that.

Sounds like a very interesting idea to try. I'm not so sure it would turn out very positively. I'm only basing that from my experience of growing up in a family where everyone else has AS. My most severely affected brother would get very aggressive with the middle brother. My parents didn't understand how their communication issues were confusing and often upsetting all of us and my Dad's need for rigidity could often turn into aggression. We have done pretty well considering the circumstances only because of the assistance of outsider, neurotypical professionals but it's not been the nicest household.

I'm down if you really do it

Alex Baum 2 down, 98 people to go.

Sorcha O'Reilly​ I completed understand. Me, my brother, n father have aspergers. Mother is normal. Unfortunately, my father feels that he has to call us names all the time, pick on us for tics and social aquardness, failures..he acts superior to me n my brother, belittles us any and every way he can. Basically he has no filter, he says the meanest, most evil things you can imagine just to try n hurt us, make us 'feel' bad.. Luckily I have no feelings or emotions, but still there's something deep inside that hurts from it. Idk if it'd be considered an emotion, as much as an understanding that he's right, I am worthless, I do have a condition that's outta my control, even tho I'd give anything to be normal.. As much of an asshole he is, he's right. I'm not normal, wont be no matter how hard i try to fit into society, i can't fully take care of myself becuz of condition, n don't deserve to even be alive considering I'm a genetic mistake.. I can't feel what he's saying, but I can understand that he's right..even if he is an ass for saying it.. I'd like to tell ya it get easier being around family like that, but it doesn't.. Just a lot worse.. :( every fuckin day..

Alex Baum Alex, from one aspy to another, you're not a genetic mistake or defect. We're augmented, and in some ways more evolved to digital hermitage that this modern day of 100% on-line promotes. and, maybe point out to your dad that what he is doing is a social faux par, and considered a bad habit. Its amazing how confronting a problem like that head on in a calm environment can resolve the matter. please not, its advise to confront the issue when the subject is in a calm state. aim for around the evening after they have had a productive day.

Amber Hale Right!! People can easily claim paranoia in order to dismiss a deeper perception.

To put it another way, "just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean they're not out to get you." Author unknown. :)

That's the saying, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you, which I've found often is true

Always trust your gut. Sudden stomach pain around someone combined with anxiety means very bad news

Diane I wish people would just say I don't want to be your friend. I feel they act like my friend but then exclude me on purpose and then I'm the paranoid one because I put together what they are doing. It's super heart breaking

Yes! I pick up the vibes so easily, but for years ignored it, relying on the feedback from the other person. It turns out, my intuition was spot on, I just believed words over vibes. Being bullshitted is one of the most damaging things you can do to me. The intentions for it don't matter. I value honesty and integrity with those I'm close to.

This!

Yes! I am confident that empathy (feeling others' feelings) is an unusual quality in Homo sapiens. Since NT behavior involves signaling sympathy (usually just pretending to care about others' feelings or thinking of your own feelings in a similar circumstance) which ASD folks don't do believably, we are separated into those who feel empathy and those who don't much more easily than NTs. Why the professionals deny or can't see this and perpetuate the "empathy is normal" lie is beyond me. It must have something to do with their need for others to see them as "good people" and the changes that would have to be made to the definitions/interpretations of narcissism and psychopathy.

No..not true. Any types of food people that VALUE others, do empathize. Many kind NTs, do not hang around nonempathy NTs. You have got it all wrong. Over point out is rude. Initiate is one accountable for starting the prob, just like initiate a code on a program, is what causes next actions.

Copy behavior to blend in Is Being dishonest. Be not authentic, expect the outcomes to also be. That simple. To copy people, you have to be wearing millions of masks, as every person is not the same.

+Sarah Jensen Lies? Try finding out how many kids from asper parents are bullied, neglected, live in fear of meltdowns. Truth is always in the most vulnerable, animals and children.

Agreed lack of empathy is the norm. Another norm is the pretending to be interested in someone's problems when really you can easily tell they don't give a shit. It's kind of understandable especially if you're not in a close relationship with someone, people tend to not trust strangers, so seeing them be genuinely concerned for you freaks them out.

Truth.

Omg so true!! That explains why most people's verbal conversation never properly matches up with the non-verbal conversation (body language etc) and makes it so confusing to judge intention (are you meant to go by the words or the non-verbal cues?). Maybe Aspergers people just over analyze and think about things our human brains weren't really designed to think about, when we are supposed to just "monkey see, monkey do" as our species evolved to? :/ Almost like we're looking at the source code instead of the user interface? Or maybe I'm talking crap? xD

@@Luculencia I always go by non-verbal cues. Have you heard the saying 90% of communication is non-verbal?

+Aspie Talk Thank you! I also think the ability for people on the spectrum to dissociate and mentally shutdown is not an inherent aspie trait, but like everyone else on planet earth with the ability to dissociate, it's a learned skill from severe childhood trauma. Trauma that comes from an entire lifetime spent blowing up every possible social land-mine, and learning that every social interaction, no matter how benign, is life threateningly dangerous.

+David Evans Its basically a product of Asperger's characterised by social exclusion that is difficult to manage for the Aspie with exacerbation of anxiety and the understanding, belonging to the world becomes distant and difficult to fit into, causing paranoia.

+David Evans I'm 25yo I feel like I may be on the autistic spectrum I even looked it as a child. I live alone have anxiety don't look after myself and don't socialise it's so hard I don't know what to do it's hard to leave home :( I have nobody

+Emily A hi, sounds similar to me. my life has been filled with depression, anxiety, stress, confusion, loneliness, awkwardness, isolation. i couldn't leave my house for years. i feel that growing up in a smaller, less bustled way of life(cities) would have been easier for people like us. music has so much meaning for me, so much so that i force/throw myself into very intense social situations, usually dance parties, in order to cope with anxiety by experiencing it enough to then jump over it and get better at making friends as well as DANCE all night, as that is honestly one of the few things that has helped me overcome anxiety and it also feels very good, with the aid of alcohol and spliffs + other substances, but to know your limit. at these situations you dont necessarily need to talk the whole time, but perhaps a bit to whomever you know/meet. its good to go with friends as well sometimes. you will naturally attract/gravitate towards more empathetic people in these environments, because such people are usually at these places. my friends are those that look out to make others feel comfortable including myself and i do the same. i'm now able to see someone who seems uncomfortable and offer them a drink and a conversation, once you make someone feel cared about, they will return it to you and hopefully to others. too often though in these situations, theres a mix of people going for different reasons, ie. social climbers/ sexual predators, drugheads, arsehole cold calculating egos etc from experience, music nerds are the coolest people in the room/at the party:) always good to check out what event/gig/party is on in your city and be involved

A "load of crap" you say? Blaming the diagnosis is naive, if you lived most of your life and came to realise a lot of the pitfalls in it were due to Aspergers you'd realise the diagnosis is just a confirmation of the syndrome, what you do after that is up to you.

Very true! It has been described between the two types of minds as being similar to speaking two different languages from two different cultures. Equally hard on communication either way. Both have to work equally hard. Not just the AS or the NT person.

Yes, thank you. I can't begin to say how frustrating it is to be talking to people, especially in text, and have them suggest I was saying something I did not say. It's text, it's very difficult for it to be ambiguous. The words used were used because they meant what they meant, if I'd meant something else, that is what I would have said. It's less frustrating in face to face contact, because that's always hit or miss anyway, but with the written word, it is black and white and extremely concrete, thus really difficult to understand WHY someone would ascribe extra meaning or 'unspoken thoughts/words/messages' to what I say. :(

Amanda Greathouse So true. I'm often so flabbergasted when someone responds to my written word as if they were responding to something else. I often find myself rereading what I wrote trying to understand how they understood what they understood. I'm sorry but it is the neurotypicals who have to get their shit together. I totally resent being labeled as 'suffering' from a condition. The real problem is the harm we suffer from neurotypical short comings and prejudices. NTs are not even aware of the loss to society created by their dismissive attitudes.

+Amanda Greathouse no, text has tones of energy to it. Just because you want it to be black and white, it is not. Series of events, the construct, tone, dynamics and more.

And if an aspie is quite empathic, they reflect in their body language what the NT's feeling. Especially if it's anger or mistrust. The NT will take that as a sign of confirmation, when really it's just their own reflection.

it is irritation different then paranoia!your prejudiced!

Hey, we haven't caught up in a while but it sounds like you are doing everything that you can. However, a tip to that would be to ask them maybe once or twice then leave them alone.

Yeah, don't ever waste your time with someone who is like that. They are not worth the effort.

Passive aggressiveness is so pathetic

Angel That's right Angel!!!!

See that often too, the 'other party' will "flip" to the other extreme and start patronizing us

Or they get defensive BECAUSE you've asked for clarification.

+tri morey yes my uncle does his too!!! he makes like im just a dramaticist like so many nts are accused of

exactly.

No, it's a bias towards negative interpretation due to mind blindness and inability to mind read. Most Aspies miss a lot of the subtle non-verbals, and are hypersensitive to PERCEIVED criticism. Conditioning through childhood or life of being misunderstood or bullied, has made the person with ASD automatically assume it's an attack of criticism when it is NOT. Mind blindness is the ASD's inability to see things from the other person's perspective in the moment. There is too much happening and to process in the moment, not enough time to consider less negative explanations for what the other person has said. Motives are assumed as bad (a type of paranoia but understandable given the amount of negative feedback the person with ASD has been exposed to in their lifetime). Since there's a lower processing speed, the mindblindness (inability to put self in other's shoes), lower skills reading facial expression, tone, subtle language cues, all combined with not enough time.... the individual with ASD jumps to negative conclusions and reacts defensivenly, with excess hostility or verbal attack. Mark is extremely well versed in ASD L1, and knows what he's talking about. This video is to help people. Watching it a few times and making notes could help because what he is describing here, and what I have just outlined are the exact issues. Mark talked through things fairly rapidly, so worth watching and pausing if needed. Incidentally ASD is not the only condition which can effect people this way. People with Borderline Personality Disorder for example can also mis-read and misinterpret neutral facial expressions as negative for example and respond with aggression or overreaction. Other personally Disorder too involve a lot of misinterpreting. NTs can too have negative bias, negative filter and jump to conclusions that they are being criticised. However this video explanation the reasons it happens with ASD... mind blindness.

I agree with you 100%.

on the other hand, info dumping isn't exactly effective at getting a point across.

True. I once mentioned a music piece played by another person seems simple. Somehow, that person misunderstood me for insulting that piece??? I remember not saying anything like "this piece is bad" and she actually think I mean it, geez. Sometimes not only do aspires have trouble understanding others, they also have trouble expressing themselves smh, yet that person just ask me to "think twice before saying" while I totally don't know this line could offend others

+Enthusiastic Gamer you just underestimate their blindness and their fears that make them try to be seen as a victim

+Enthusiastic Gamer the truth is: ANGER IS NEVER JUSTIFIED... if this truth is realized in any soul then autism will dissapear, i guess. (anger has to be released without involving other people without any expectations to understand or submit or repair anything out of guilt-feelings)

sSunbeamM No NT cause problems. They manipulate, backstab and cause unnecessary drama in the work place. I speak from experience.

The Explorer scare tactics ?

I have been there too but you know what? People will be offended even if you use the nicest and gentlest word.

ThePAULOPABLO YES!!! Yes they do!

No they don't thats how normal human beings are.

ThePAULOPABLO they’re cowards. Always ask them what they really mean. They get really uncomfortable because they have an aversion to the truth like cockroaches with the lights on.

The Random Tube wrong back then most people were on the spectrum. It’s not until everyone got forced into big cities with thousands of people this happened humans aren’t meant to be with anymore than a group of a hundred people

Mr Tickles I have a cat named mr. Pickles 😂I'll have to name the next one after you😆

Well I was attending a recovery clinic for addiction and while I didn't really need to be there they kept me enlisted as they knew something wasn't quite right. They spoke to my GP and he suggested getting a full diagnosis. So they arranged an appointment with a mental health consultant and after about 3 sessions he told me he felt it was Aspergers. Before that I'd only been diagnosed with Generalised Anxiety Disorder so this came as a huge shock. I went through a bit of denial but the more research I done the more it made perfect sense. I was then put in touch with the Asperger Service Norfolk, which is as far as I've got. I think there's a fair bit of support so the future is quite exciting now I know what's wrong with me. Thanks

Interesting. I've heard that weed can help some people w ASD. I guess not if you have paranoia!

***** That would be lovely if true but unfortunately there are a number of other classic symptoms I have such as obsessional interest in a specific subject, routine behaviour, repetitive motor mannerisms, terrible eye contact, reclusive behaviour, hypersensitivity to sound, smells and emotion. Despite being a reasonably intelligent person I've struggled with some of the most basic aspects of socialising all of my life and knew something was wrong with me, it all makes sense. Sorry for being pedantic but I have to point out that AS isn't a mental illness though many people with the condition do also suffer from one or more psychological issues due to a lack of self understanding which often leads to self medication or the complete avoidance of situations that can cause them to suffer.

Rayvn7 I don't get angry when I'm smoking, far from it. I get paranoid and nervous. It makes me even more introspective than usual (like I need that!) and hence; anti-social and agoraphobic. =( Funnily enough tripping on 'shrooms or LSD I'm much better with, though again, very introspective and I have had bad trips before but taking it by myself in my house it has helped me so much to overcome some of my social hangups, realise my place in the universe and believe in myself.

If you are in Maine you can go to Sweetser. You want to go to a clinic that specializes in diagnostic testing. Not a mental health clinic. Mental health clinics tend to misdiagnose you. You should be tested. A test for Autism ranges from Mind Blindness tests to puzzles, problem solving skills IQ scores etc. A mental health clinic will base diagnosis on the symptoms they see over a short period of time. Not very good for diagnosing Autism. Especially high functioning autism in women. Misdiagnosis are serious because among them you'll find, anxiety disorders, mood disorders, depression and even schizophrenia. These are often treated with medication. Medication commonly has an opposite or adverse affect in the Autistic individual and can have devastating and long lasting negative affects on the person's life.

I am in love with and married to an aspie. Wade is right re less stressful environment... As I am learning what I can do for my dh (and for myself - to make our relationship work), I've learned that he *requires* quiet alone time every day so that he can detox and destress from the chaos, perceived judgements and "pretending" of the day. He too is afraid that i will leave. and he's right - I would - except that i know he's working on bettering himself and i trust that about him. I found a great resource: "Marriage with Asperger's Syndrome: 14 Practical Strategies. By Eva Mendes, M.A." and he and i work these steps as we learn more about it. Finally, I've learned that prayer and mindfulness meditation are very helpful to him - being present helps slow down time for him so he can process without being flooded. So (in my best aspie style) 3 things: 1. set aside alone/quiet time for yourself daily; 2. Look up and read Eva Mendes, MA; 3. Practice mindful meditation and prayer throughout the day. Good luck to you!

pretending is lies, not authentic. No one of self care, self value wants to be around dishonesty.

Julie Overstreet don't you need the same alone time every day? only aspies you think they need it?

Im happy you feel this. I don’t know how I feel, EVER.

Yeah same, when I speak to someone I rarely get to talk to, or is actually nice to me for once, I feel a sense of paranoia that I must make the most of this and stop it from ending as it is rare, idk

Sir ignore them. It's the internet.

I have it too, ignorance is the best way to avoid your emotions going all over the place, that I've found.

Why on net in a meltdown? Go self care.

How old are you Sir? I hope you find help. There are people who love you.

But right, this video is about paranoia

thetruthergirls no it does not it I'll conceited!

Every single comment in this thread proves the video. it's amazing to see it in action.

I have been bullied and excluded throughout my entire life. I'm a neurotypical. I am sure of this because I have been tested for High functioning autism under suspicion of having it. You're not being targeted just because you have autism. People who bully and exclude others for being different will forever exist. Yes, being excluded and bullied is more common among those with autism, but it also happens to many neurotypical people as well. I have literally never had more than two friends in my life and I've been bullied because I can't relate very well to others and tend to be overly logical.

Elisabeth1903 Agreed, and I'm not autistic.

agreed. ever notice how those whose brains function "differently" or "atypically" are often said to have some form of genetic defect or disorder? i think that's bullshit. the most interesting people i've ever met have had something "wrong" with them (i hate to use that word but i'm not the best communicator so it'll have to do) in terms of brain development, and this almost always leads to an original state of mind and original personalities. we live outside the realms of conventional society, and we are socially condemned for it. free thinkers have always been persecuted for their beliefs and lifestyles.

Sign me up

As i read a book about social cues and whatnot i begin to understand that it's imperative for me to at least get the gist of the social lingo i've had a hard time understanding. \

False. Masses of all types do not care. You work on self care, self regulate, self attachment and discern quality people that do and maintain their own core inner work. That simple.

chavesa5 I even have to go as far as listening to what they are saying and the question I asked for clarification has to be so sneaky that they don't know I'm trying to clerify what they are saying.

yep, and denial and blaming!! grrrrrrr!! but ive tried to help my uncle with clarity and lucidity and what clues to look out for to make my writings easier to understand, but he just exploits it plus obvious personality issur to boot. yup, no thanks!

id tell him to look at my emails as more like western union telegrams with a STOP between each sentence than so much as monologues which he often writes and gets into these neo theories that just dont add up

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A true paranoia is way beyond this. But I think general paranoia can develop by experience of repeated trauma.

7lilly5 it seclusion it introversion thing .the fact are these .the work place is horrible to asbies so why really make it about schizophrenia? It would be pain complaints exhaustion where is the evidence for the results of this study!