Parents Did Nothing When Their Older Son Bullied His Younger Brother (Also a Golden Child for Mom...

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00:00 1st story:
Trying to convince younger son to forgive and communicate with older son AITAH (u/Mythman999 in r/AITAH)
12:49 2nd story:
AITAH for not wanting to attend my brother’s wedding after he made fun of my newborn (u/leoc808 in r/AITAH)
20:30 3rd story:
All my friends think my (22M) girlfriend (21F) is “creepy”. Are they right? (u/AdministrativeGift58 in r/relationship_advice)
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@risingwind8943 22 күн бұрын

Forcing reconciliation is about the most toxic thing you can do in a situation like this. It has the exact same flavor as the bullying. It is basically saying to the bullied kid that his horrific experience is worthless compared to his abusers feelings. This is obscenely twisted.

@77wolfblade 14 күн бұрын

Exactly pushing off the person's feelings as well as ignoring the fact that actions have consequences.

@Zurround 7 күн бұрын

When you are the one who has badly wronged a person it is your VICTIM that gets to determine conditions of reconciliation (or if and when it will happen AT ALL). ONLY the victim gets to decide this not the perps.

@harleyquinn5774 15 сағат бұрын

It’s a straight up ambush.

@queenrhubarb1676 22 күн бұрын

The “family” excuse is so stupid.

@uwetheiss970 22 күн бұрын

Yeah, I read this "argument" so often. "But FaMiLyYYyy!". Where was the family when the abuse happend? I always hear this when the victim is getting blamed.

@damnmolony 22 күн бұрын

It's funny they always makes 'family' excuses when they're not doing their part of being family

@SnowyWolborg 16 күн бұрын

Exactly. OP was not the victim in this conflict, so she doesn't get to decide what healing looks like for the person who was on the receiving end of the harm

@laquietagray9323 15 күн бұрын

Where was family when the bs was going on and why didn't they do more to stop it?

@Olimar92 12 күн бұрын

Yeah, they don't care about family when they throw the OP out of the house without any evidence for what the Golden Child says they did, but will use that when they think they can get money out of the kid.

@Permenantlyexhaustedghost115 22 күн бұрын

Yta. You can’t force your children to reconcile just because you want it. It’s more about absolving themselves of their poor parenting than anything.

@princessmarlena1359 21 күн бұрын

Or “saving face” by trying to look like they are sane and caring when clearly they are neither.

@lindah3803 22 күн бұрын

Story 2: Commenters are praising OP for standing up to his brother and parents for insulting his baby. Where was that backbone when brother was insulting his wife. His parents didn't say anything about that. Yes he did Daddy up to protect his baby. He sure didn't Man up to protect his wife. After OP's Dad saying he hopes OP ends up on the streets, hopefully now he can Man up and go NC with all of them, plus any other family member that contacts him defending his parents and brother.

@iseaflames 21 күн бұрын

This is the comment I was looking for if he let them disrespect his wife to both their faces how could he possibly expect them to think his kids were off limits. This is a case of too little to late.

@princessmarlena1359 21 күн бұрын

Exactly. He should protect his wife AND child. She should have left him rather than stay and have a kid with him.

@lindah3803 21 күн бұрын

@@iseaflames The commenters praising him aggravated me. It's W T F, did you miss all the time's mentioned that his family insulted/slammed his wife. OP basically did nothing about it. I agree,why should his baby be off limits.

@lindah3803 21 күн бұрын

@@princessmarlena1359 Or at the least,refused to go to their house.

@lazallewillemse3617 21 күн бұрын

I was thinking the same thing. You stand up for the baby, but not the wife?

@Only1199 22 күн бұрын

Of course Joseph doesn’t want to reconcile, and of course Ezra didn’t do anything to other kids, wanna bet that if he did bully the other kids, the parents would punish him for bullying them.

@RequiemPoete 22 күн бұрын

It's possible he choose Joseph because he knew Joseph could be intimidated into silence.

@princessmarlena1359 21 күн бұрын

Totally. Favoritism and scapegoating.

@princessmarlena1359 21 күн бұрын

@@RequiemPoete Or if Joseph had complained to the parents at first, they would have most likely trivialized it with “JuSt IgNoRe It!” or “Oh, that’s just how older siblings act!”, or worst of all “Oh, ‘BOYS WILL BE BOYS’!”

@jamestown8398 22 күн бұрын

OP, his wife, and Ezra are all YTA. However, I think letting Joseph stay with his grandparents was the right call. He was safe and loved there.

@user-bn4cs6zu6r 7 күн бұрын

At least OP learned (had to be shamed for it, but, better late than never), can't say the same for the ex-wife.

@user-ov2qf2nn9o 22 күн бұрын

Ezra is the first born son. He can do no wrong. Ezra is a bully, parents knew about this, chose not to deal with it. Parents are EVIL. SIBLING RIVALRY is terrible. If I complained, I was the problem, screw you.

@princessmarlena1359 21 күн бұрын

Exactly, and the “consequences” for Ezra were a joke. He should have been sent to military school or to a work farm for bad kids. His possessions should be sold off and the money used to compensate Joseph. Ezra should be banned from ever contacting Joseph again and disowned, disinherited, and permanently kicked out of the home at 18.

@toadkingwhatifs7211 2 күн бұрын

⁠@@princessmarlena1359isn’t that a bit harsh? Like I understand military school and having his stuff sold but kicking him out as soon as he is 18 and disinheriting him is a bit far. He bullied his brother yeah but like isn’t that a little much, sure he broke his brother’s arm but that also doesn’t constitute not being a parent. If he were to be completely fair, i think his punishment was ok but maybe yeah send him to like military school or put him on beyond scared straight type of show to show him the direction he is going in. Forcing reconciliation is not okay but abandoning your child also isn’t okay. They both were in need of good parenting and a safe environment.

@princessmarlena1359 2 күн бұрын

@@toadkingwhatifs7211 I personally don’t see it as harsh, though I had a very strict upbringing. Also at 18, you are NOT a child anymore.

@devondyer9201 Күн бұрын

I think the issue is that Ezra was only in sixth grade when he was caught. Unless your child murdered or Sa'd a person you shouldn't disown them at that point.

@eddiesuen3711 22 күн бұрын

When parents call their children a "bastard" what the hell does they make them?

@cocothedino_2901 8 күн бұрын

before i was born my grandma and my uncle on my moms side would get into screaming matches a lot and my grandma would shout “you son of a bitch!” and my uncle would just smile and say “youre right” and she never got what he meant lmao

@Zurround 7 күн бұрын

My own mother was so stupid that she would call me a son of a 🐝👁✝🧲H. Um... What does that make HER?? I never dared point that out for obvious reasons

@skylinefever 22 күн бұрын

YTA: You want reconciliation? Make a therapy that actualy f-ing works. Pay your son whatever he demands to cover the cost.

@LattePunch 21 күн бұрын

3rd story, I have never in my life heard someone calling somebody "unjealous" as a negative trait. Something is up with ruebin.

@user-qq2ic2vd7y 22 күн бұрын

I feel so bad for the victim in story one. He got to keep a good relationship with his parents and his other siblings. He had no repercussions besides being grounded for literally attempted murder. He broke his brothers arm and could’ve killed him. The other siblings are terrible because the bullying wasn’t happening to them so therefore they didn’t care. And just like most victims people are trying to guilt them into forgiving the bad guy and are treating the victim like they did something wrong.

@morganleanderblake678 22 күн бұрын

yeah. so. people LOVE to point at autistics who are nonverbal or walking into stuff and think they know EVERYTHING about autism. Nope, it turns out that the "creepy" they were sensing was just ignorance about how she's different.

@RepellentJeff 22 күн бұрын

Story 2: …Is it possible that OP is an affair baby? He’s the only one in that “family” who *_isn’t_* an AH, and everyone keeps using “bastard” as an insult.

@manutd316 22 күн бұрын

I'd agree they kept shoving that word in his face

@djomega8462 16 күн бұрын

I wondered that, too.

@aleksandarvil5718 22 күн бұрын

Joseph = NTA *_"parents"_** ( including OP !!! ) & Ezra Made Their Own Bed, NOW They Must Lie in It !!!*

@GMWILD87 22 күн бұрын

Story 3 fuck the friends.

@leazimridaniels8552 21 күн бұрын

Scrolled too far to see this comment

@GMWILD87 20 күн бұрын

@@leazimridaniels8552 yeah the algorithm doesn't like me because I won't censor myself so it buried my comment.

@djomega8462 16 күн бұрын

I was torn on this or to defend the friend. I went through a similar situation where an ex-friend of mine started dating this guy who gave everyone - EVERYONE- a bad feeling and made us all uncomfortable. I approached her (w/o him), told her how I felt but that I'd defer to her since she knew him better. FF 6 months: he put her through a lot, got her to cut ties and burn bridges with almost everyone she knew, and she ended our friendship of 18 years. I have no idea what happened to her or where she is now.

@morganleanderblake678 22 күн бұрын

From what I'm seeing this is a culture clash. Born pre 1985, you were taught by a lot of USA that family is sacrosanct and we must always find a way to heal the family unit. That's just not healthy and it's not how things should be. Sometimes you break a relationship and it cannot be fixed , full stop. No one owes a parent or a brother a relationship.

@uwetheiss970 22 күн бұрын

I was born in Romania and live in Germany and I am born in 1985 and I also was told this nonsense. Took me years of therapy to cut contact with my abusive spermdonor cause I thaught I was wrong. So your statement is true in other countries as well.

@faithlesshound5621 22 күн бұрын

Ah, that explains the American obsession with "Family Therapy" as the cure for all ills.

@princessmarlena1359 21 күн бұрын

Bojack Horseman was right. “Family is a sinkhole, you should get out while you can.”

@SnowyWolborg 16 күн бұрын

That's because no one wants to acknowledge the reality that more often than not, the first bullies or abusers that people will meet are likely going to be relatives. Even those who don't come from old fashioned honor cultures are deeply ashamed to be known as the one in the neighborhood with the broken, dysfunctional family.

@kikiblue7169 20 күн бұрын

he can ask forgiveness but the brother doesn't have to give it. he doesn't owe you or the abusive brother forgiveness

@mrsw2923 18 күн бұрын

Demanding forgiveness only twists the knife in the abused.

@Zurround 7 күн бұрын

I posted above that ONLY the VICTIM of terrible abuse or betrayal gets to decide terms of forgiveness or reconciliation and that can include NOT AT ALL.

@ryangooseling 21 күн бұрын

Staring gf: congrats she's neurodivergent. Alice will be an awesome gf.

@greeneyelove2003 18 күн бұрын

Wow. OP in the first story is clueless or just determined to ignore the fact he dropped the ball with both kids. But the youngest son really got screwed.

@ktmmatt7243 21 күн бұрын

Story 1: OP should have sent Ezra to military school and disowned him. I'm sorry but when a bully turns out to be a sibling to the point of a broken arm and threatening to harm the other siblings to ensure silence from the bullied one, there is no excuse. If there was any chance for reconciliation, it would be Joseph's call all around since it was he who suffered the most. YTA

@LordMondegrene 22 күн бұрын

I was told I could not disconnect by my sister, because "we're family." She is the abusive one. She is also a child psychologist.

@brianbarber5401 21 күн бұрын

You can tell her to pound sand and get lost “Family” is an excuse abusive AHs use.

@LordMondegrene 21 күн бұрын

@@brianbarber5401 I did just that two years later, after reading my old journal entries that recounted her trashing me on my birthday. Deliberately. ... to make me hate the day I was born.

@princessmarlena1359 21 күн бұрын

Sorry to hear that.

@thecajunphoenix 7 күн бұрын

Tell your so-called sister to pound sand and then go no contact with her and the other toxic blood relatives who use that excuse. True family does not abuse you, and your so-called sister lost the privilege of being called family when she made that statement.

@Echo_9 22 күн бұрын

2nd story I hate when people ask the stupidest question if they the asshole

@marrero8100 22 күн бұрын

He insulted his newborn nephew in full view of his friends and family, and he's not at fault? WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH HIM?

@pushkalvasudev790 22 күн бұрын

I would have responded to the father "bastard? Well looks like the apple didn't fall farther from the tree"

@dustysimpson7864 22 күн бұрын

So E is your golden child too, not just wife.

@melindaflick631 21 күн бұрын

Story 1 - OP sounds so PASSIVE! I hope Joseph cuts all contact with him... I also wonder how the heck Ezra ended up like that, though.

@user-qq2ic2vd7y 22 күн бұрын

How about in story one Joseph gets to push his parents and his other siblings down the stairs and then gets to treat them like crap and bully them for two years. And then they should immediately forgive him and everything goes back to normal.

@distortedriolu4618 22 күн бұрын

Story 3 Girl is a little quirky but normies are scared. Sigh XT sounds like small city folk

@Papabear4564 8 күн бұрын

Ezra doesn't get to heal, he's the one who caused all the harm, Joseph gets to heal

@chrisester2910 21 күн бұрын

Newborn bully story: is OP his father's actual child? The word "bastard" was thrown around a lot.

@LocksAndChains 21 күн бұрын

Forced reconciliation should never be done. It never works out. Back in high school, I horribly mistreated a peer due to my twisted unrequited crush on him. I made myself the victim when he fought back. I deeply regret it now and hate myself over it. Part of me wishes I could apologize. But the best apology I could ever give him is to stay away. I keep his name secret when telling people the story, cuz I’m terrified that some do-gooder will try to do this: a forced reconciliation. I will not allow that. I want him to forget I existed and be happy. Abusers who try to seek forgiveness are assholes.

@princessmarlena1359 21 күн бұрын

It’s one thing for an abuser to want to make things right by apologizing to their victims and do what they can to set things straight, but they should never do it because they expect forgiveness. I’ve had some former abusers try to do this with me, but I would tell them “I want nothing to do with you. Your apology is noted but not accepted, nor are you forgiven by me.” A couple of them were okay with it. Others became furious and told me that I “had to forgive” them, to “be the bigger person”, and one or two even said “do as Jesus would do” (I hate them the most).

@PiscesMoon2You 22 күн бұрын

You really want to Help Joseph? Help him get restraining orders against Ezra, mom and siblings.

@user-qq2ic2vd7y 22 күн бұрын

You could tell they didn’t care about Joseph at all, and neither did the siblings since they just abandoned the kid at the Grandparents and the abuser who could’ve killed him pushing him down the stairs, got a slap on the wrist.

@PiscesMoon2You 22 күн бұрын

@@user-qq2ic2vd7y yeah Ezra is probably a Ted Bundy in the making.

@princessmarlena1359 21 күн бұрын

OP doesn’t really want to help Joseph, just make it look like he is helping him so he can save face to the public. Joseph should write a book about that awful family.

@eastfrisianguy 22 күн бұрын

"What do other people think about that?" - "Let them talk behind my back and admire my bubble butt!" ... I had this discussion so often with my father 😂😂

@geminiblue 21 күн бұрын

Story 3 - either Ruben likes OP or he senses his friend has found the one & he's scared OP is gonna be consumed with his romantic relationship, become distant from him & he's gonna be pushed into the background

@a_noelle8595 5 күн бұрын

Yep. I'm with you here. Ruben is the red flag for several reasons. OP is a huge green flag!

@mauriceb3135 22 күн бұрын

Story 1 tell the world youre an uncaring pos without saying youre an uncaring pos

@MoonNightAria 8 күн бұрын

hearing "ate the same thing at every place you went" and knew it was hatred against autism

@DragonJohn 18 күн бұрын

"My parents called me a bastard" Uh what? then who's my dad?

@margaretsnewtoylynnparks5336 22 күн бұрын

Story 2: I have heard something like that! THEY will always be more important! Every time! THEY want the IMAGE!

@margaretsnewtoylynnparks5336 22 күн бұрын

Thanks! Someone else gets it! Wish we did not know this stuff!

@susioeandno1else 22 күн бұрын

Op3 wooo shiny spine alert

@Rose_Bride 7 күн бұрын

*Story 1:* It was completely DISGUSTING the way OP kept asking his children, _"What do you want me to do?"_ 😩 It's like the kids were basically raising _themselves._ Did he REALLY require THAT much guidance in making decisions?

@AngelaVEdwards 11 күн бұрын

“Social services” are big on reuniting or keeping families together. Many times they do this to the detriment of the child so if THEY demanded the two boys live apart, you know it was really bad. It was likely way worse than what OP claims. Ezra was likely an extremely violent, troubled child.

@colinayre2109 21 күн бұрын

Story 2: Question, how the hell are they ‘forcing’ you to go? Like how? Do they own your house? Do they pay your bills? If they don’t, they can’t MAKE you do anything. Grow a spine, tell them all to F off and go NC with everyone and live with your wife and kid.

@w7100 21 күн бұрын

story 2 is clearly from India

@kirby-luvr 22 күн бұрын

Story 2: OP has so much restraint. If someone made fun of my SO and baby i would go to jail for aggravated as*ault lol

@thewaywardrogue6430 15 күн бұрын

Story 1, OP is DEFINITELY the obliviosly malignant AH. Joseph owes you NOTHING!!!!!

@PiscesMoon2You 22 күн бұрын

Pronounced it Are-See-Hole 😂🤣😂🤣 I Love it.

@darthbiscuit 14 күн бұрын

It's great to see OP get a fresh perspective on their dilemma and make healthy changes based on it. Too easy for the ego to not allow it.

@bangel5217 22 күн бұрын

Am i the only one not understanding what the hell the dude in the background is doing

@fallowfloof2379 22 күн бұрын

I'm pretty sure they're building a factory chimney

@bangel5217 21 күн бұрын

@@fallowfloof2379 that much i can tell what confused me was the constant destruction and re building and it happens in all of their videos Most of it just doesn't make any sense 😕

@Kofi_Mensahs_BurnerAccount 16 күн бұрын

In story 2: it’s time to go NC. Brother is the golden child. There is no hope.

@harleyquinn5774 15 сағат бұрын

Going NC is the only healthy thing a dysfunctional family can do. My Narcissist’s mom’s ancestors were the Slave Owners of the Old South. The post-Civil War generations are positively littered with multiple generations of siblings going NC once both parents were dead. My sister and I are the most recent edition to this family legacy. My paternal grandfather’s family tree had no such issues. *They* were the Quakers & Abolitionists.

@morganleanderblake678 22 күн бұрын

ffs I hate the second family so much more.

@morganleanderblake678 22 күн бұрын

yay we're just enabling a cycle of abuse cool

@wanderlust3292 11 күн бұрын

Do you kept the bully and the victim had to live with his grandparents? Stop forcing any form of reconciliation

@DeeBraynt2010 8 күн бұрын

Story 1: I suspect that they made the Entitled Brother the Golden Child after the incident with the uncle because something had happened due to the rumors. They're so accustomed to Rug Sweeping his ish that if they admit he's in the wrong they will have to admit that they failed as parents to OP and have now failed as grandparents

@TheChimeraDude 7 күн бұрын

Story three sounds like your best friend subtly poisoned the well with your other friends.

@billcutting2681 22 күн бұрын

18:34 YTA for ever taking it like a bitch and letting him be awful to your wife

@princessmarlena1359 21 күн бұрын

YES! I broke up with a [former] fiancé for that.

@bobbymoore8 17 күн бұрын

2nd story: those of you out there saying it’s a made up story, is it because he said they racially insult their baby? And if so is it because you think racism doesn’t exist anymore? If so can you tell me right now in the past year you haven’t heard any of your family or friends make any racist comments or jokes? I had a coworker who’s grandfather was black but looks very white and kind of things he says our other coworkers say behind our backs you’ll be shocked. And these are people who act nice in front of us.

@malifex9922 12 күн бұрын

"Arsiehole" made me CACKLE at 7am lol!

@darronpattel 12 күн бұрын

the third story it seems like the best friend is either trying to act like a mother hen or is trying to get with her on the rebound after convincing his buddy to break it off...

@jemase7931 20 күн бұрын

Let's see Ezra was acting up, so Josrph gets kicked to the grandparents. And now, you want to ignore Joseph's refusal to reconcile with his bullt. Oh, yeah, you are a AH.

@Vikashar 5 күн бұрын

Ezra went on to become a Jedi

@silverwinterwolf2064 10 күн бұрын

HARD YTA. The parents kinda just want this entire problem to just be ignored and brushed over when its really a serious issue, they are no better if not worse for even ALLOWING this behaviour to happen.

@jordanvictoria5 9 күн бұрын

It’s not your call about reconciliation. He is a victim and may never want to forgive his abuser. What you need to do is show your son he is loved. You also need to understand that while you and your spouse may not have known what was going on his other siblings did and they kept the secret. He probably doesn’t want to talk to them either.

@nessabell2848 21 күн бұрын

Story 1. The Mom viloated a court order. That alone is AH territory

@highlandermyphone4361 3 күн бұрын

I feel personally attacked by the Alice story 😆.

@apathicmiko6546 17 күн бұрын

Last story: when op described his girlfriend I said to myself "is she autistic? And that's what weird out his friends?" I discovered I'm autistic a while ago so I can see the clues more clearly now

@MajinDKes 22 күн бұрын

Nah Ruben likes you

@Jacob-rn6qf 21 күн бұрын

Let get this right you sent the victim away instead of the brother responsible 🤦 yta

@dehro 8 күн бұрын

The third one sounds like the Addams family origin story

@pattyramey6694 21 күн бұрын

2..nope you need to stay away from your family. Your mom,dad and bri along with his wife are trashy bullies.stop giving them your time .keep your baby safe

@Asperger0815 22 күн бұрын

What I find highly more disturbing than the actual story is the video itself. It looks like someone who tries to build something and just forgets midway that he is doing so.... What the fuck is this?

@Abce-hq6oz 7 күн бұрын

This is highly likely just my paranoid side talking, but isn't it odd, how she suggested doing something the guy would like, didn't seem surprised the guy didn't like her and at the end OP just decided on his own to distance himself from his friends? In my mind it sounds like she checked his phone, therefore knew what to do about the freaked out guy and manipulated him into thinking it would be good idea to distance himself for a while

@MrKy85919 Күн бұрын

Hard fail for the parent's my god they are horrible

@jazzie-sanbelle99 17 күн бұрын

S1 definitely, yta I'm be the one cheering if said child keeps nc with y'all S2 nta you're in the right with your feelings and standing up for yourself 👏 🙌 nobody needs toxicity in their life S3 omg i just cannot 😮

@jemase7931 20 күн бұрын

"dad srarts OPa bastard" Who was he insulting?OP or his mom?

@debrapayne6533 16 күн бұрын

I have 2 boys and they are not friendly to each others they had a falling out when one was in freshman and the other one was in seventh grade; I have mentioned to them to try to get along but they do not do I just leave it along

@diehardfan56 21 күн бұрын

Moral of the story, never have kids...

@user-tz7gg8xs5y 21 күн бұрын

S2 ..no your the whole for not standing up and putting your bother in his place whether by hook or crook you should of handed him consequences years ago ...so your failure to do so earned you the treatment you got

@shadesofjade 21 күн бұрын

23:05 girlfriend is neurodivergent.

@missourimomofthree 20 күн бұрын

Reuben is jealous.

@develyntwocentshenderson5739 22 күн бұрын

#2. OP's biggest problem is listening to his gonad donors. but this is how they are raised. it is a blind spot we have. tell the 'P's where to go.

@philipstiller6386 9 күн бұрын

All the reddit comments are "why didn't you just kill ezra"

@develyntwocentshenderson5739 22 күн бұрын

last: but like all males he is thinking with his eyeballs. she may well be ok but he needs to just be careful. i'm a little leery of the descriptors OP is using in regards to 'A'. autistic? I believe in the almighty gene

@vlkafenryka788 21 күн бұрын

Story 2 to paraphrase words of Chris rock I’m not saying it’s right if you were to introduce his face to a sock with a lock in it … but I’d understand

@NotAnIlluminatiSpy 21 күн бұрын

Ruben thinks Alice is hot...Still part way through...but yeah, that's the vibe I get.

@Hirouka1 8 күн бұрын

Second story is false and very baiting however it could happen if op is the product of an affair

@YGJ360 14 күн бұрын

So you kept Ezra, the bully, but Joseph the victim was sent away to live with his grandparents. Joseph is under no obligation to forgive his brother. Just because your family feels it’s “ healthy” to have the brothers reconcile doesn’t mean that you know what’s better for Joseph than he does. His grandparents better understand the situation and his feelings because he basically grew up with them. You already failed Joseph. Stop failing him now. Stop trying to minimize how Joseph feels. Just because Ezra is really to reconnect doesn’t mean Joseph is. Tell your sons to stop the phone calls!!! Joseph doesn’t need to be harassed further!!!

@harleyquinn5774 15 сағат бұрын

Grandparents aren’t likely physically strong enough anymore to handle a problem child like Ezra.

@juggerNOTtoday 21 күн бұрын

as someone who's LDS, the first story is definitely involving an LDS family that's likely living in an unfortunately conservative area (names are based on Joseph Smith and Elder Ezra Taft Benson). the ideas of family and communication are emphasised in the church, and almost unbearably so in the Western US. i always feel a sense of guilt when an LDS family goes thru a break like this, because it means they weren't listening to their children; they were listening to the scriptures. and while that's good on paper, you can't fix everything with gospel teachings alone; proper communication between parents and kids are the main cure.

@garryh74 21 күн бұрын

Stupid supposition!

@darronpattel 12 күн бұрын

the first story seems more the mothers fault than the op but hes still stupid.

@princessmarlena1359 21 күн бұрын

Story 1: YTA, as is your wife, and especially your oldest son Ezra. What a pair of sucky terrible parents. Seriously, this is disgraceful. How can you let your eldest son do this for years, (“We didn’t know” is a BS excuse) and yet try to _force_ reconciliation between an abuser and their victim!? How come there were no severe consequences for Ezra (you _knew_ Ezra had behavioral issues)!? Just because he didn’t bully the others? Yet you also blame Joseph for being the victim? Joseph should change his name, move away, and never speak to that horrible family again. Story 2: Yeah, OP’s family sucks, but he is no better. ESH except for his wife and kid. Why didn’t OP nip this in the bud the second they lit into his wife? He is lucky she stayed with him long enough to have a kid with him. Sure, he defended his kid, but it never should have gotten to that. OP failed to stand up to them or even go NC with such a terrible family. Story 3: Alice is not “creepy”. You can tell a lot about who your true friends are by how they treat your mutual friends and those closest to you (family, significant other, etc.). Those friends are toxic, ignorant, and judgmental. OP, you did the right thing and chose the correct side in defending Alice. Better one genuine friend than a bunch of fake friends. Those people were never OP’s friends. They do not deserve forgiveness. Reuben is the worst.