Glad I could help mate :)

Keen to sink my teeth into the app :)

@@ParkersReef its good when you get to grips with all it can do👍

yeah just starting to get into the actions in the app now - clever bit of kit!

thanks mate, it's video is coming soon!

Glad it was of use!

hahaha lazy reefer life... I figured this would tell me my alk, (which it did, I just didn't believe it!)

It is coming soon, I'm actually doing a follow up on the actions you can do with the reef factory dosing pumps. It's a quality ecosystem!

Good stuff, hope you like it!

@@ParkersReef quick question. Did the concentrated reagent have a best before date on it?

Not yet - am working on it now with the tripple dosing pump. The actions are amazing!

This Reef Factory gear seems to have a pretty decent and well integrated app. I have some more videos coming of there gear which will highlight what is possible with their app :)

Does depends on your tank volume, but yes, it will eventually impact salinity. I have heard of people setting one of the pumps up to replenish new salt water after each test which would resolve the issue :)

You can, however, I never trust ph readings from alk testers. They always read a little low due to handling acidic reagents

@@ParkersReef hey mate when you do your review on this and showing other features I’m curious to know when you calibrate the PH probe does it I give you mV(millivolt) read? Also exactly how much water does it use per test including rinse? Thanks

I haven’t, apex is not supported in australia

Oh no, what were the early issues? So far this unit has been flawless, but I do worry about stepper motor accuracy over time. Ultimately I feel the KH Guardian is a tried and tested solution but it’s interface is very dated and fairly locked in. The KH keeper app looks amazing, I’m playing with it now in preparation for the next video. I guess it comes down to what is more important to you, the ceiling is high for the KH keeper, but the KHg has runs on the board

@@ParkersReef in one day it lost WiFi 157 times stepper motors were very noisy, they run a smaller ph prob and tbh in the 5 months I ran mine it never was right compared to my and 2 other Hanna checkers tbh I work in a shop in the uk and have set a few up so not a user error but here my ppl with same prob with the older units then ones that run right tbh. The user interface face is great but I just never trusted it. I still run reef factory led bars (there version of the orphek or3’s) which are ok. Herd the new plus is better with a better ph prob and motors are a lot better but I still not keen as mine the motor that run the reagent seized up and I had to send it back to them. Loads to it but don’t want to damage there rep as mine could of been a faulty unit but seems to be a few out there still 🤔

Interesting - will keep an eye on it!!

@@ParkersReef all those earlier problems have been a thing of the past since the newer plus was developed, using new software and a full size ph probe, ive only had to clean the ph probe as a mulm can build up, on a regular basis. Ps i would turn the light off as it can aid in algae growth in the tubes which can cause variations within tests

The reefbot is great, but reagent wise it is much more expensive than a dedicated alk tester

Not yet - but it is coming!

I’m keen to try a Xepta too! I’ve been very impressed with the app and ecosystem integration of these units. Future is bright for reef factory

The xepta autobalance is great!!! I have one and love it, it’s very accurate and quiet

I don't think it is quite out in the states yet, but have a planned release soon!

@@ParkersReef thank you!

weight - as per instructions

Glad you enjoyed it! There are a couple of qualifying questions that will help you decide. 1. Are you comfortable in accessing your router login and changing some basic network settings? If no, get the Reef factory kh keeper 2. Can you setup with either a wifi adaptor or can you run an ethernet cable to the device? If no, get the reef factory kh keeper 3. Are you happy with the device as a standalone unit, ie, is integration not important to you? If no, get the reef factory kh keeper. If you answered yes to all three questions above, get the KH Guardian. No to any of them, it's reef factory time :)

@@ParkersReef cheers mate... and thanking you very much for the extra quick reply... atm im watching your set up of the guardian...

@@murfwithjess yell out if I can help!

for dosing - it depends on your needs. I will have both in the review coming soon

I think you are correct, I totally missed Pro number 3! It would have been the app - it is so simple to use and incredible powerful

@@ParkersReef Thanks.

Check out part 2 of this video to see more on that, it is very powerful! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o71nmLxntK_ScnU.html

I do not I am afraid

they come with a cade tank. But you can also buy them direct from Cade

Hey Ron, it does use a decent amount of total tank water due to the size of the beaker. But yes, you can use a dosing pump to replace the salt water taken.

yes you will need the magnetic stirrer to work to get accurate results. Not sure why it wouldn't be working?

it does use quite a bit of tank water due to the size of the beaker in the unit. I actually return my "waste" water back to the tank and see no negative affects

@@ParkersReef Thank you for the prompt reply, not wanting to sound pedantic, but you didn’t answer my question, and I think you also missed my second point. I was just wanting to know how much is removed for a test to see if it would help reduce the amount it needed to remove from the water. I don’t want to add the water back to the tank as I have to perform water removal and let the ATO top up to stop salinity from increasing from dosing. Sorry but thought I should mention. Kind regards Dean

@@deanfielding4411 Hi Dean, sorry mate, I tried to answer your question, but must have missed the point :P I haven't measured it, but looks to be about 100ml of tank water per test. Perhaps less?

@@ParkersReef Thank you. 😊 if it’s about 100ml that might work quite well at maintaining salinity level by dumping the excess test water out of the tank as the will be a similar amount that I need to remove to maintain salinity stability.

@@deanfielding4411 you could dial the number of tests you do a day into the amount of water you need to take out :D

No, I don’t believe it will work the same for freshwater. That being said, freshwater measurement works in a similar way - so I’m sure it could be converted?

It does not count drops. Relies on stepper motor calibration and yep, if you draw air it will cause issues. However, it’s pretty clever, if reagent is not being added the algorithm detects it and informs you of a reagent issue. So it’s not quite as risky as it seems

@@ParkersReefwhich one do you recommend

comes down to what you need. I feel the KHG has some strong advantages and some disadvantages to this unit. It's cheaper and doesn't rely on dosing pump calibration as it's main points of interest. However, it's interface/app and lack of expanded ecosystem are its weaknesses.

@@ParkersReef with the lack of an app and expanded ecosystem aside, which one would be the most reliable. I'm not worried about the looks and app, I just want them to do a good job without any hiccups so I can check for kh fluctuations and be as accurate as possible.

It's a great unit, I stand by it's pro's and con's against what I claim to be the industry leader in the KH Guardian. It has a much better interface and the reef factory ecosystem is amazing. However, on the downside - it certainly benefits from frequent calibration (I would recommend once a month)

@@ParkersReef awesome, thanks for the reply!

Anytime!

quite a few differences: This uses stepper motors instead of sensors to measure container volume and reagent drops. This has a much more integrated and powerful app (more to come on that in future videos) This does not dose alkalinity out of the box, requires a separate purchase

Thanks. So far finding the KHG very good. Yes it doesn't have a App but it seems very reliable and has been around for some time.

Any chance to get a xepta in and test that?? 😏

Would love to try a xepta!!

Yes you can, have been doing this since its release of the original and have had no side effects.

@@smilersreef3943 awesome thank you.

Correct :)

quite a few differences: This uses stepper motors instead of sensors to measure container volume and reagent drops. This has a much more integrated and powerful app (more to come on that in future videos) This does not dose alkalinity out of the box, requires a separate purchase

Absolutely!!!

yeah I will show the app in the next video, it's a lot to take in - but is quite powerful

спасибо, я стараюсь изо всех сил!

I haven't yet - but I will be soon!!!

@@ParkersReef thank mate. You vidoes are like go to before i do any purchases it is not a cheap device in israel almost 1100 usd so wanted to hearyour views before i do the pruchase

Totally understandable mate. Hopefully have that video ready to go next week 🤞🏻

@@ParkersReef thanks mate

Both seem like great units with lots of options in the ecosystem

@@ParkersReef thank you! Your videos are really insightful.

I don’t think it will be long till it is

Sure do, ensures you get accurate calibration!!

have heard bad things about the first versions, seemingly the problems have been resolved in these latest versions - but will continue to test :)

Perhaps I have..... And I don't disagree with you

that's if you trust they actually do brick it with DIY reagent....

@@ParkersReef - this was rumour ? Forgot where i saw the thread but it had responses from KHG in it. Oks let me test and see :)

interesting - was it the first model? Heard a lot of problems with them

@@ParkersReef yes it was the first model, now i just dont trust them. I have had the Alkatronic running for 2.5 years and not one single issue, only downside is the size. But as you know reliablility means more than how compact it is.

Having a bad day Paul? 😅

I can’t believe others don’t have an app or smart integrations for the money, but hey - here we are 😂😅

hahah I still love my KHG, no other alk tester on the market (that I know of anyway) actually counts the drops of reagent ;)

@@ParkersReef I ordered mine because of your recommendation.

You won’t be disappointed :)

@@ParkersReef I trust your recommendations on its performance.