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These 3 Fruits in my Food Forest Are Awesome, But a Word of CAUTION...

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Parkrose Permaculture

Parkrose Permaculture

2 ай бұрын

It can be REALLY exciting to grow your own food - especially unusual fruit that is hard to find anywhere outside of your own garden. HOWEVER, some plants are a bit more work than others, and have more issues than others. Are they still worth growing? Maybe! Let's take a look at 3 in my garden and decide if they're worth the "trouble" for the delicious yields they produce.
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@mikeinportland30
@mikeinportland30 2 ай бұрын
Here in SE Portland (600ft elevation) my espalier apples are so prolific I don't mind some coddling moth or rust damage. I just this week brutally thinned back the baby fruit so none touch, but wow what a banner year for fruit sets and foliage on my apples. An important "a-ha" moment with them happened this Jan when we had that freak 3+ days of single digit wind chills, windy and ice storms. The ice blocked access to the ground floor for Robins to feed. Luckily I was lazy last year and left all the damaged and uneaten apples on the trees. I have a pair of Robins that nest in my yard but during the freeze there honestly must have been 20-30 pairs (maybe more) daily eating the rotting apples left on the trees. Given climate change and more frequent "freak" weather events, I will now leave those apples every year for the Robins but other birds too.
@Hayley-sl9lm
@Hayley-sl9lm 2 ай бұрын
That freeze was a nightmare!
@muffininorbit
@muffininorbit 2 ай бұрын
Speaking of climate change, did you see most of Portland got officially moved to 9a on the most recent USDA zone map?
@growinginportland
@growinginportland 2 ай бұрын
One green world is an awesome place. I have a dwarf mulberry tree that I planted next to a peach tree. The peach tree got leaf curl this spring. And the dwarf mulberry tree happened to get it as well. I used a natural fungicide to treat the peach tree. Before this tree starts producing fruit I’m gonna have to come up with a game plan to treat it for leaf curl. taking care of fruit trees is a full-time commitment and people should be aware of that.
@juliannegill5486
@juliannegill5486 2 ай бұрын
Good news - fruit trees (e.g. mulberry) can be pruned easily and kept small. We keep ours at 8-10 feet.
@ablthomas37
@ablthomas37 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for the idea of picking mulberries in all black. I took you advice and planted my mulberry where my expanded chicken run will be going
@barbrahnakamanya6866
@barbrahnakamanya6866 2 ай бұрын
I love the gardening videos you share. I've learned a lot.
@louise2209
@louise2209 2 ай бұрын
In U.K. The worst pest pressure for my apple tree is slugs and snails. I have no idea the variety, I bought it as a ‘rescue’ many years ago. It’s on dwarf root stock, I believe. I regret where I planted it a bit as I’ve changed my ideas on how to landscape it over the years and it’s slightly effecting where I plant more trees, however, it’s not to the point that it’s a problem. I might remove it in the future or try transplant it. Thank you for the info on hardy kiwi’s. They have always been on my list, but I will install a strong trellis for them when the time comes and I’ve reevaluated where I would put them!
@joanneoverstreet72
@joanneoverstreet72 2 ай бұрын
Excellent talk.Thank you for the honesty. 😊🌱💚🌻🐝
@Iris_van_Vulpen
@Iris_van_Vulpen 2 ай бұрын
I'm so relieved that I put my mulberry (also Illinois everbearing) in a spot where it can grow tall. It will provide shade for the horses in the future.
@herelieskittythomas3726
@herelieskittythomas3726 2 ай бұрын
I have about 5 apple trees, years ago they were purchased as persimmon trees and we bought them while they were dormant and from someone on Craigslist, well we took good care of them. These apple trees are in my permanent landscape for about 3 years now. I just prune them and feed all the branches to my rabbits. I enjoy their flowers, but we have never had an apple get bigger than a marble.
@fabricdragon
@fabricdragon 2 ай бұрын
good to see you looking well!
@MELISSAHYLTON
@MELISSAHYLTON 2 ай бұрын
I totally agree with these. I had gotten a mulberry tree from one green world, and it was in a pot for two years before i gifted it to someone with more space. I just couldn't commit to planting in ground here and keeping it pruned.
@charlesbale8376
@charlesbale8376 2 ай бұрын
These are fruits I’ve considered so your thoughts are really appreciated.
@pantichrist4043
@pantichrist4043 2 ай бұрын
We had a mulberry tree when I was just a little child. I practically lived in that tree all summer. My mama always appreciated how compulsive I am. She always knew how to harness it into productivity. Typical capricorn.
@corinne6545
@corinne6545 2 ай бұрын
Last year, we were able to buy a dwarf mulberry for the first time here in the uk. It’s called the Mojo Berry and only grows to 1.5 metres. Apparently it took 40 years to develop!
@Hayley-sl9lm
@Hayley-sl9lm 2 ай бұрын
Do you have a video on how you bag your apples? Lemme look, ooh found it -- so mesh bags? My apples are too young to bloom yet but can't wait to get there!
@fredflintstone637
@fredflintstone637 22 күн бұрын
Angela, congrats on your channel's growth. You'll be at 50k subscribers one of these days soon.
@ParkrosePermaculture
@ParkrosePermaculture 21 күн бұрын
Thank you!!
@hendyappleton5701
@hendyappleton5701 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the perspective. I'm now considering a hardy kiwi for the newly-cleared spaces on my property, based on this information. I have a large fir tree that's currently covered in poison oak... it'd be a perfect support for a "let's go crazy" vine. And the spaces formerly occupied by other firs and freeze-felled trees from 2021 will be perfect places for mulberries. The things that are disadvantages in a small yard are exactly what I need here. :)
@laura24910
@laura24910 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video, the apple tree suprised me. I'd love to hear more of your take on common crops!
@CookBrookCountryLife
@CookBrookCountryLife 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! I just planted 3 hardy kiwis. Never found this fruit in a store.
@skimusic3773
@skimusic3773 2 ай бұрын
Thank you. I am planting kiwis this year and needed to hear this NOW.
@kathleenmclain9856
@kathleenmclain9856 2 ай бұрын
Great video! Hi from Montavilla!
@ecocentrichomestead6783
@ecocentrichomestead6783 2 ай бұрын
Actinidia Kolomikta is the hardiest of the Kiwi. Seeds are expensive I found. The varieties I had seeds for and trying to grow are Actinidia arguta. they have die back every winter. After finding the A. arguta are only hardy to zone 4b I hunted down Kolomikta. The Kolomikta seeds I now have came from central Russia!
@ellenrgiesler
@ellenrgiesler 2 ай бұрын
The squirrels take care of our fallen mulberries 😊
@Godisincontrol325
@Godisincontrol325 2 ай бұрын
😃🎉 Excellent I subscribed to your channel 🙏
@ParkrosePermaculture
@ParkrosePermaculture 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@Godisincontrol325
@Godisincontrol325 2 ай бұрын
@@ParkrosePermaculture you're very welcome 😁 Happy to be here 🙏
@Karoline_g
@Karoline_g 2 ай бұрын
Good warnings. Although, what I’d like to hear about are things that are the opposite. Things that require minimal maintenance and are spoonie/disability friendly.
@themusenextdoor
@themusenextdoor 2 ай бұрын
Disabled gardener here! Our limitations are probably different, but I have a few workarounds to share. Online garden clubs are a lot less pressure than in-person meetups and a great source of information. I'm a member of two: one local and one international. I've found that no-till beds with a streamlined irrigation system work best for annual and short-lived perennial crops. I do in-situ composting instead of using a traditional compost pile (it's just a more extreme version of chop and drop) and tolerate a lot more weeds than most gardeners. If you embrace a suburban jungle aesthetic and tolerate weird-looking veggies, you'll save yourself a lot of time and energy and possibly get more fresh delicious food than you can eat. Of course, this only works if you have the spoons for scavenger hunts several times a week when things start to ripen. I also have a strategically placed seating area and container garden where I can rest between tasks and tend to things that reqire a bit more maintenance or winter protection. I also keep "investment plants" like my self-fertile hazelnut there. As far as low-maintenance fruit goes, things that naturally grow as bushes or shrubs are probably easiest. Genetic dwarf trees are amazing but require a bit of research to see if they're worth the investment. They require less labor overall but are just as prone to pests and diseases as their full sized counterparts.
@colbywilliams7595
@colbywilliams7595 2 ай бұрын
This video was super helpful and informative. Do you have a video on lower maintenance fruits for a backyard permaculture garden as well?
@ParkrosePermaculture
@ParkrosePermaculture 2 ай бұрын
No, but I definitely need to make one!!
@bananamustache3071
@bananamustache3071 2 ай бұрын
I grew up in a home with a picturesque mulberry tree on a hill in the backyard that was there when my family moved in. I developed an allergy to mulberries which is such a shame because it is such an amazing tree to have in so many ways.
@roxannemcclintock1495
@roxannemcclintock1495 2 ай бұрын
Could you please recommend where you get your apple bags? I live in SW WA and would like to try that this year
@runarae2842
@runarae2842 2 ай бұрын
You mention that you have a hazlenut, I moved to a house that has 4 huge mature hazelnuts but the squirrels have taken every single hazelnut (before even mature :( ) Are you able to harvest your hazelnuts? Any tips? Our trees are right up against other trees and powerlines.
@runarae2842
@runarae2842 2 ай бұрын
Apologies if you’ve made a video about this! Will go look.
@herelieskittythomas3726
@herelieskittythomas3726 2 ай бұрын
Invite the squirrel hunters, squirrel may have a season. They taste great fried smothered in gravy.
@runarae2842
@runarae2842 2 ай бұрын
@@herelieskittythomas3726 I live in a metro area (PDX) so no hunting even though they are invasive gray squirrels.
@amyjones2490
@amyjones2490 2 ай бұрын
One thing about mulberries in our area of southern Michigan is they draw in raccoons which will also attack poultry. Just something to think about.
@herelieskittythomas3726
@herelieskittythomas3726 2 ай бұрын
Raccoon taste amazing
@TheWildRicesPNW
@TheWildRicesPNW 2 ай бұрын
Do you prefer to bag individual apples rather than covering the whole tree? I’m in Year 1 and City Fruit recommends sheeting the whole tree. Seems like a shorter process, but if you are thinning at the same time as bagging maybe it’s the same?
@AmelieHarms
@AmelieHarms 2 ай бұрын
I've only seen kiwiberries once in a store. Once. 😅
@ashgreenspinner1503
@ashgreenspinner1503 2 ай бұрын
We have the same issue with our stone fruit (particularly the Nectarines). We are about to cut them out, because they’re full of worms and have so many pests of the tree in general. :-/
@catharinephoto
@catharinephoto 2 ай бұрын
My dwarf red mulberry tree fruited but the fruit is much smaller than your mulberries. It’s only about 2 yrs old. I have a young food forest so soil is not great yet. Is this normal?
@anthonyburdine1061
@anthonyburdine1061 2 ай бұрын
HAVE YOU TRIED Kens red hardy kiwi ? HOW DOES IT COMPARE TO THE OTHERS YOU HAVE TRIED ?
@heidiroycroft9465
@heidiroycroft9465 2 ай бұрын
Have you eaten any of the white mulberry varieties? Would you choose any of them if you had room for another?
@TheSweetpea73
@TheSweetpea73 2 ай бұрын
How far away from your house do you have your mulberry tree planted?
@melaniebirdsong6551
@melaniebirdsong6551 2 ай бұрын
Would the mulberry’s be a good candidate for espalier or however you spell it 😂
@ParkrosePermaculture
@ParkrosePermaculture 2 ай бұрын
I don't think so. You can pollard or coppice them though.
@AlbertGauche
@AlbertGauche 2 ай бұрын
Have you tried Coos River Beauty apples?
@ParkrosePermaculture
@ParkrosePermaculture 2 ай бұрын
I have not!! Now I need to find and try one!
@kelliott7864
@kelliott7864 2 ай бұрын
I grow this apple on the coast and near Portland. It needs afternoon shade in Portland or it will sunburn.
@kenyabudd9367
@kenyabudd9367 2 ай бұрын
how about a kiwi berry vine??
@d.-beck7205
@d.-beck7205 2 ай бұрын
I think the kiwi berry vine is what Angela talks about first.
@TroyEagan
@TroyEagan 2 ай бұрын
I might be talking out my ass here as I've never personally done it, but I think mulberry trees respond well to pollarding. That could be a way to manage them long term?
@ParkrosePermaculture
@ParkrosePermaculture 2 ай бұрын
Yes! I pollard mine which has worked great so far!
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