PART 2 : Range MEANS NOTHING on Hand Cannons (Aim Assist and Accuracy edition)

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In this video I follow up Part 1. This time talking about Aim assist and accuracy. I believe a lot has changed since Destiny 1 and there are certain things that don't have the same weight that they did.
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@CoolGuyGames 4 жыл бұрын

Destiny 1 and early Destiny 2 range was king. Up until shadowkeep that had the range nerf, to me, that's when the entire handcannon class needed to be looked at again. These past 2 videos are what I think. Not set in stone, just my opinion. I'm now working with whatever mags, barrels, and MW I get. The perks carry more weight. If ricochet or a range MW does not roll then that's fine. Other perks are good too. PC players can probably still go max range and feel fine. Then again, I went through how I see the range stat and some MnK players might actually enjoy more stability and handling.

@trich742 4 жыл бұрын

Im so glad you mentioned that D1 and D2 have different mechanics and that range does different thing. Ive literally had this argument with some one on the bungie forums.

@kotickyle 4 жыл бұрын

I hear rumors of a podcast! Where do I keep an eye out!? or is someone just real cruel and messing with my fantasies here?

@tmenke88 4 жыл бұрын

Would you be able to do a similar video in regards to other weapon types? ..specifically sidearms I'm generally curious how much of a difference it makes.

@titans77 4 жыл бұрын

Im confused a bit, you said we shouldn't use the podcast quote from Newsk back in D1 because it was a different game, then you tell us to watch Drewsky's video which is based ENTIRELY on that podcast quote. Who has the correct information?

$@spiritfractal$

@spiritfractal 4 жыл бұрын

Hey, thanks for these videos, as my OCD forces me to figure which stats to optimize. However, I can't stop feeling duped by Bungie, since we never know when they are gonna have another "enlightening" moment and change the mechanics again. Think about all the time everyone grinded for max range hand cannons before shadowkeep, while sharding everything else. Bungie fucking sucks because of that alone, but will it suck again? I NEED to know what I'm grinding for 😭

@aki-sid 4 жыл бұрын

D1: Aim on target = missed shot. D2: Aim off target = free headshot.

@n4n196 4 жыл бұрын

Gotta "love" (hate) that

@pppaiste 4 жыл бұрын

Coolguy: I like stability Fallout: I like range Cammy: I like handling Drew: 42069 kills on my twilight oath y'all Lol Love all these guys. Can't wait for the upcoming podcast.

@theking5083 4 жыл бұрын

Lucas Johnson 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@epicgamerzfail4575 4 жыл бұрын

Datto: I like reload speed

@XIIXunknownXIIX 4 жыл бұрын

what podcast?

@Gjerda 4 жыл бұрын

what podcast??

@martinsk8798 4 жыл бұрын

EpicGamerzFail Datto: Nerf handcannons

@LiveHisLove 4 жыл бұрын

CoolGuy: “Range on Handcannons doesn’t matter.” *Fallout has entered the chat*

@maxxorb6515 4 жыл бұрын

Meanwhile CoolGirl is dying in the back for our sins.

@Ave-Satanas 4 жыл бұрын

"K babe just stand here I need to shoot you In the face at varying distances."

@kreyes1126 4 жыл бұрын

Awe yeah ...

@devoltar 4 жыл бұрын

@@LordBruuh His *wife*, and I don't think it's a flex at all. Just a convenient account at hand.

@billynahar9861 4 жыл бұрын

J D So many NSFW jokes sprung to mind when I read your comment 😂

@noodlethenerdle 4 жыл бұрын

Cool Guy: Range doesn't matter Fallout: Range is extremely important ... sooo... boys, wanna collab and debate this?

@JM-nothing-more 4 жыл бұрын

Epic Statbattles of Destiny

@FcoEnriquePerez 4 жыл бұрын

He is literally explaining that in the video, watch it.

@danhalo1405 4 жыл бұрын

Cool Guy plays mainly on consoles and Fallout mainly on Pc this tells you all you really have to know. When you play in a sandbox were weapons mostly kick like mules you for sure value it more to make those weapons kick less to being able to hit you shots more consistent instead of a minor increase of damage fall off range but in sandbox were weapons have anyways next to no recoil to begin with and stability hardly has any effect you might as well go more range even if it actually only gives you 1 metre more effective range.

@devoltar 4 жыл бұрын

@@danhalo1405 fallout still plays a lot on console and with controller on pc. They costreamed Saturday on Xbox and discussed this as people were talking about drew. They aren't disagreeing as much as people seem to think. They are friends and have been discussing it for a while, as CG pointed out in the vid.

@haydenbell1758 4 жыл бұрын

dan Halo as long as you don’t have full bore the kick is sooo easy on hand cannons people on console just suck fr

@zacharythurgood2704 4 жыл бұрын

"ghost bullets" *screams in PTSD*

@InfernoPhilM 4 жыл бұрын

CoolGuy bringing that “tough pill to swallow.” This doesn’t feel true, but I’m seeing it with my own eyes.

@AllThingsFascinate 4 жыл бұрын

Perfectly stated.

@stronkbad5007 4 жыл бұрын

Couldn’t have been said better.

@Lilpeep4ever 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah were basing this whole RANGE means nothing on cool guys eyes and cool guys opinion. When developers of the game have said the opposite of what he is claiming. It's hard to trash the range stat when it Literally equals aim assistance and accuracy on the weapon and that is fact from the development team at Bungie

@stronkbad5007 4 жыл бұрын

f4lloutB0Y Yeah, they said that for the first game...

@senortrafficcone8232 4 жыл бұрын

f4lloutB0Y did you even watch the video?

@tomrobinson2829 4 жыл бұрын

CoolGuy you are killing it lately, between this and the fusion rifles video you’ve made some huge contributions to understanding game mechanics. Love it.

@yungcrisisactor 4 жыл бұрын

18:19 is no one gonna bring this up?? absolutely incredible

@stronkbad5007 4 жыл бұрын

Jordan Pierce 😲

@gramdalfthewhite 4 жыл бұрын

It's a good one, def. Lol love me some collaterals. I've got about 6 under my belt, mostly lucky shots

@yungcrisisactor 4 жыл бұрын

I hit one with arbalest when I was doing the komodo quest and I about lost my shit hahahahaha

@KeenScout. 4 жыл бұрын

Pretty common on PC but still a delight to see

@towerpro9090 4 жыл бұрын

Cool guy I’m so glad that you put this out. My max stability rolls have been much more consistent than my max range. It’s so deceiving because we were always “trained” to believe range is king! Actually landing your shots more consistently is KING!! Keep em coming love this analysis.

@samuelibajesomo1751 4 жыл бұрын

I got austringer that was maxed for range but changed some perks around so points r into stability Makes major difference for me, especially since I'm on console

@williamjohnson5440 4 жыл бұрын

Don't worry, I'm sure everything will change again - again.

@Metacognition88 4 жыл бұрын

Well we are at the mercy of bungies development team. They decide what matters for performance. Just have to stay informed and play their game.

@IMOEMANI 4 жыл бұрын

(read in fallout's nerdy commenter voice): "But CoolGuy, Fallout told me that feelings aren't numbers."

@msammut4 4 жыл бұрын

I said it once and I’ll say it again, you are by far the most underrated Destiny content creator. Beautiful video thank you

@MorganParker0413 4 жыл бұрын

indeed.

@ThatZeroPlays 4 жыл бұрын

Tru

@soppi5216 4 жыл бұрын

I think it's time for CoolGuy vs Fallout. Epic Rap Battle of Destiny.

@LeoUdechukwu 4 жыл бұрын

Coolguy: Ghost bullets! Me: Vietnam flashbacks!

@norsegoat1408 4 жыл бұрын

😂

@dustin_echoes 4 жыл бұрын

CoolGuy's next video: Dismantling the Fabric of Reality

@sakurawind6375 4 жыл бұрын

2019: Range makes a Handcannon 2020: nah, lets pump the handling up and have a snappy Handcannon

@justicekreider2978 4 жыл бұрын

And stability to make the hand cannon a laserbeam lol

@TitorEPK 4 жыл бұрын

destiny 2 in 2021: IT'S ALL ABOUT THE RELOAD SPEED

@carpemkarzi 4 жыл бұрын

Neat, I love the pure amount of detail from you, drewski, et al, all deduced from numbers and experimentation...fantastic community

@Y2Jared 4 жыл бұрын

I wonder how many guns I have deleted because it had a stability masterwork and not range........ *strokes stubbled chin*

@Y2Jared 4 жыл бұрын

Piera Dawn my vault is full and bad decisions being made is going to happen to make room from time to time.

@PattycakesGaming 4 жыл бұрын

Fantastic video, it's really interesting to see how the game is evolving over time since D1 launched

@stevenmielke1662 4 жыл бұрын

I can hear my Ishtar Commander app saying "welcome back buddy, Coolguy must have dropped another video". :D

@agustinrodrigueztoymil3329 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for doing this video CoolGuy, since the range nerf I've been testing a lot my own HC and decided to change for full stability roles. I'm glad to see that my decisions were right.

@pshpsh5247 4 жыл бұрын

That question you asked, "when was the last time you yelled" GHOST BULLETS!"" you're completely right. Eveytime it happened in D1 I would scream omg ghost bullets! I haven't said that in years because my shots always hit my target if I'm on them within range.

@bortis1911 4 жыл бұрын

Great video! Thanks for taking the time to make it!

@musanetesakupwanya1050 4 жыл бұрын

Follow-up to my favourite video from you! Yes please!! Really helped since I was a proper noob then and was sipping the Range-coolaid. Thanks for your informative approach man!

@jeffreyadams9506 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for doing these. Your videos actually got me to try hand cannons and now I main a spare rations on xb1. I love the handling, makes it feel better than my not forgotten to me and gave me a chance to learn something new and since now all the hc's have mostly the same range, I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything by NOT using the NF

@noturaveragedad 4 жыл бұрын

Great video as always!! I always learn something watching your videos!! Thanks for the great content

@Liam34683 4 жыл бұрын

One of your best vids, mate! I've watched everything you've made since Hopscotch Pilgrim. Keep up the great work.

@MorganParker0413 4 жыл бұрын

You make the BEST destiny vids, it's great to see this genuine content, I felt the heart you put into this man. It's refreshing, because others make it sound dull like it's their job to lay out this info. Where as you have your moments when I know that this is what you enjoy delving into and exposing. Great work, keep it up man!

@rigo3188 4 жыл бұрын

These days people usually out-duel HC easily at range with Scouts and Pulses, I'd rather take a high stability HC to be honest

@oz70nyc50 4 жыл бұрын

Even with Autos. Since the nerf I've lost count how many HC users I flat out scorch with my Halfdan, Gnawing Hunger, Misfit and all the other god roll Autos I've collected. ESPECIALLY Autos that roll scopes, cuz you can squeeze a bit more range out of them.

@RafitoOoO 4 жыл бұрын

yeah, I got a waking vigil with opening shot and snapshot and it's my most reliable HC right now.

@danhalo1405 4 жыл бұрын

Especially on consoles you need stability

@th9986 4 жыл бұрын

PancakeRigo Range affects more than just damage drop off

@AllThingsFascinate 4 жыл бұрын

The range nerf was excessive and obtuse. Hard cap, so nf doesn't have a purpose and ace sucks? 110s and 150s have the same? Dramatic damage drop when moving an inch, nothing gradual? That, on top of cutting range like 30%. Just too much. And too poorly designed.

@vaioo151 4 жыл бұрын

Love these informative videos. Keep up the great work

@amitojsingh2967 4 жыл бұрын

dis man really be out here making em re think everything in my vault

@norsegoat1408 4 жыл бұрын

lol

@ZombrainZzZ 4 жыл бұрын

Just wow. Your in depth analysis of the game is astounding. This is why I'm subbed to you. Your content is always satisfying and knowledgeable.

@vatch07075 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this! Your videos and explanations are so easy to follow and understand.

@Toxag0n 4 жыл бұрын

Yet another great video, would you happen to know if moving target increases the cone size as well?

@dylanlasky2389 4 жыл бұрын

Drewskys accuracy vid made soooo much sense. This vid definitely expands on it. Great info!

@stillhungryactually7015 4 жыл бұрын

You're the best, man. Thanks so much for your informative insight and how CLEARLY you describe things.

@ij6708 4 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking. I've had plenty of people tell me it's full bore on the Spare or it's trash (mostly thanks to a certain someone). I was like yeah, okay if you wanna make your handcannon worse go ahead, not for me

@scarysunburns7733 4 жыл бұрын

It’s a tough paradigm shift. It’s been all about range for so long

@nebiyuesayas5600 4 жыл бұрын

Imo, even if range was King again I'd still shard Fullbore. -10 stability and -5 handling, for-5 range? Bs, this ain't a shorty. Hand me some Smallbore or Hammer Forged in that scenario

@commanderchomp142 4 жыл бұрын

Fantastic video. I had heard about that quote from the dev on range/accuary but I had no idea it was from D1

@lzfsburner 4 жыл бұрын

"ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT"-CoolCena

@MorganParker0413 4 жыл бұрын

lol

@libra7930 4 жыл бұрын

Great video bro keep up hard work 👍👊

@digitalencore7251 4 жыл бұрын

Hey CoolGuy, how's the PC training going? Still working at it? Love your in-depth breakdowns. Would still love to see how you feel about range on other weapon archetypes. Jus' sayin'.

@alets86 4 жыл бұрын

I really love your job! Thanks for the facts, really improve our efficiency on the game

@thesoundguydave6000 4 жыл бұрын

Love these breakdowns Coolguy!

@Rigel_6 4 жыл бұрын

For those still skeptical, try using any HC with bottom tree gunslinger (use last word for best results) with and without the "knock 'em down" effect active. It's night and day difference, and as far as I can tell, it affects recoil and STABILITY

@justinworkman5482 4 жыл бұрын

LW has no stability so that buff goes a long way. Its ehh on 180s but really cleans up 150s. 110s are just a chore to use. Lol

@markgross9582 4 жыл бұрын

I think range definitely contributes to aim assist. You can see this when using lunas, and then nf. Both have the same aim assist stat, but nf just has more range, and it definitely “feels” more sticky

@Ash-my4gf 4 жыл бұрын

agatedoor personally i dislike not forgotten over Luna because how slow it feels.

@sambalmer5879 4 жыл бұрын

@@Ash-my4gf I'm the same. Luna just feels a lot snappier to me so I haven't really used NF much since shadowkeep. Doesn't really feel like there's much of a reason to.

@Ash-my4gf 4 жыл бұрын

Minor Thing yeah I dislike both guns but Luna is definitely better.

@Pomerons 4 жыл бұрын

So I have a spare Rations with Full bore/polygonal rifling, ricochet rounds, rapid hit, slideshot, and a handling mw. You think it’s worth using the stability barrel?

@JcalGG 4 жыл бұрын

Hold up, all these findings are great. But do they also play the EXACT same for PC and MNK? Does stability affect MnK users the same way it affects controller users as shown in this video? Does FOV have anything to do with landing shots or the way things appear on screen? I might have missed it, but was there pc footage here as well? Love the videos but would love some more PC footage

@marvinlowe1850 4 жыл бұрын

Thumbs up as always, I love this content because of the research and love you put into the game we all love. Bravo, keep up the good work.

@TruMurdaMuzik 4 жыл бұрын

What barrels for a HC should i be looking for?? Im trying to figure out which one will be good for my spare.

@Motorhead_England 4 жыл бұрын

Very informative vid CG. I had a feeling something was afoot when I've been getting hand cannons with ALMOST so called God rolls, and they weren't performing up to expectation. From now on, I'll be concentrating on accuracy, so thanks. As for ghost bullets....have you or any other viewers had experience of this when using snipers? I have this quite often both in PvP and PvE, and it's seems to be more prevalent since the launch of these seasons.

@RonRose 4 жыл бұрын

This video speaks the truth. I used a Duke with Sureshot, Rangefinder, Ricochet Rounds and a range masterwork for the longest time. Post Shadowkeep it's felt like hot garbage so I vaulted it. After watching your first Range vid I took it out and switched the sight from Sureshot to Steadyhand. Been wrecking with it ever since.

@mamtin9036 4 жыл бұрын

what do u think about an Eye of the Storm Shotgun ? Like Perfect Paradox or Hawthorne's Field Forged Shotgun (both can get Firmly Planted aswell)

@bounty446 4 жыл бұрын

Great job ........Thanks for your hard work putting this together

@christopherharts1995 3 жыл бұрын

So knowing this. Which would you pick for majority range engagements in pvp and pve. Ace or last word?

@AristophMarloque 4 жыл бұрын

So glad I found your channel. Now I can finally tell my buddy that just because he's "been playing since D1" doesn't mean he knows what he's talking about in D2. I watched him dismantle a god roll Spare Rations because it didn't have *every* possible range perk, meanwhile I've been farming it for the past 3 Oryx-boss weeks and haven't even gotten a single Rapid Hit + Kill Clip. -_-

@devoltar 4 жыл бұрын

That sniper colat where they lined up for you.... lol. Good follow up and great points about the changes vs D1. Aim assist isn't the stat mystery it was then. Too much time at the head of the video restating and defending the previous video though, felt like it took a long time to get to the new points, but from then on it's golden. Also while I agree it doesn't matter for relative stats I would like to see what those test bullet mag shots look like with someone on a more distant connection... that private match looked way stickier than average. But you know I'm curious to test that more in general ;-)

@Gjerda 4 жыл бұрын

hey CG could you please put some text on the screen to show what meters your darcy is at when you're doing that testing? it's really hard to see. thanks for considering!

@patrickcarino989 4 жыл бұрын

Have you done a waking vigil handcannon review? Great work though!

@migawhat_ 4 жыл бұрын

Can u do this for sidearms? Would love to know what the actual god roll is for Travelers is.

@traviswalters2664 4 жыл бұрын

I agree 100% on this. I was initially disappointed with my 2 spare ration rolls (so far the only ones I’ve got), but one was a max stability roll with low range but it has rapid hit and rangefinder. I’ve found that it can absolutely hang with all the handcannons I’ve gone up against thus far and it just feels good. Great vid Coolguy, and if it feels good, shoot it!

@MaydaysCustomWoodworks 4 жыл бұрын

Very strong case for this argument. Great research

@chrish7411 4 жыл бұрын

Always good stuff Cool Guy!

@vdosis_8923 4 жыл бұрын

Wat a nice video keep the good work 🔥 so the question for everyone wat God Roll perks u guys like or recommend...

@yurpcrusher123 4 жыл бұрын

So what is better Luna or NF?

@BionicThiago123 4 жыл бұрын

Great video. I understand what you’re saying but is it fair to say that this applies only to hand cannons OR RATHER, guns that have had their range severely capped? The reason I ask is because when I compare the same sniper with high range vs those with say high stability, the high range feels way more consistent. I’ve seen this when farming for both Beloveds and Tataras. It’s tough to quantify because the reticules don’t change in the scope but it very much feels like accuracy/aim assist is higher there due to range.

@cobracyxx8808 4 жыл бұрын

Coolguy v Fallout v Drewsky

@richardchambliss1967 4 жыл бұрын

Great video! Thanks for the break down!

@TheAbulletAway 4 жыл бұрын

Another great video, thanks! This helps a lot.

@herbbegley2571 4 жыл бұрын

But at which point does stability no longer benefit the recoil/kick of the handcannon? Depending on that, it would be worth investing in handling for the increased draw/ready/stow speed. At least looking at adaptive frame point of view as light weight have high handling by default.

@FenriGaming 4 жыл бұрын

Can we talk about how when he 4 taps with austringer he goes from "practice makes perfect x3" to 5?

@itzOniClint 4 жыл бұрын

I have a fluted barrel, high cal, rapid hit, kill clip spare rations with a stability masterwork. I have NEVER noticed any ghosting of any sort. Drop off? Yes, of course. But it is still the best HC I have ever used, even with a 43 range stat.

@aots66 4 жыл бұрын

Super informative, thanks!

@razvann6907 4 жыл бұрын

What about sidearms? Is the same true for them?

@ZZZXYZ 4 жыл бұрын

How is burning my max stability kindled orchid KC/Rampage over high range +5 stability a good thing? console/controller. @18:20 😥🤢

@jonas_gustafsson 4 жыл бұрын

I feel like handling and stability has become more important since shadowkeep. Have a lot of range rolls on many HCs but newer once with quickdraw and snaphot plus a damage perk seem to work better in PVP for now.

@_Botao_ 4 жыл бұрын

So to make this a personal and official decision based on this: My spare on console is a Full-Bore, Ricochet, Rapid-hit, Rangefinder. Would you recommend I switch it to Arrowhead break, dropping my range to 42 but with Rangefinder help and upping my stability by 9 and my handling by 5? Because I have to admit I still love it but it kicks a bit too much for a console HC.

@The_0G_Chad 4 жыл бұрын

I 100% agree, so many people simply port over knowledge from D1 and assume it’s the same. D1 and D2 is a completely different game. Handling seems to be so much more buffed in destiny 2 I think because the game was designed on primary only mechanics. It also has a lot of its range stuff ironed out where everything fits neatly in its range bracket. But handling especially now at the speed of the game is far more important than the range stat. To be honest this argument was already put to rest with the antiope it’s zoom in magnification level almost completely dictate a weapons range in destiny two. The range that is pitiful compared to the magnification, but handling adds up to a ton of seconds saved where you get your gun out just fast enough to let your crosshairs settle and your opponents not to so you get off the first shot and you flinch them. And with the speed of hunters able to dodge completely around an enemy that extra 10 handling can equate to a few frames that is really noticeable. Why do guys really use spare rations? Because it’s lightweight and adds a shit ton of handling as well as having an 80+ handling stat, it was always middling at range.

@michaeltruesdale8921 4 жыл бұрын

Cool guy with the banger.... shaking up the community. I have preached this over and over to my clan. People have always said learn the recoil you will be fine. My rebuttal has always been I value concentrating on strafing(due to easier follow up shots) while you concentrate on the recoil and finding me. Stability > Range anyday

@seanobreezy 4 жыл бұрын

Ayyyye, looks like I made it into the video. seanOB on alter of flame. The hand cannon I was using was a spare with fluted/high cal/rapid hit/range finder/handling MW. I've been trying to spec all my hand cannons with stability. Have max range ones and the stability ones just feel better and are more controllable.

@Un4gettablewolf 4 жыл бұрын

This video is so on point. My Duke with zen moment feels so much better than my Duke with Max range range finder. I just try to spec out for other more beneficial things with the Duke now

@niekvanderkam 4 жыл бұрын

Last week I farmed a Spare Rations with max stability, rapid hit and rangefinder. Boy am I excited!

@el_rooneyo 4 жыл бұрын

Amazing video as always cool guy - thanks so much!

@soasasiatrf1486 4 жыл бұрын

Hey coolguy awesome vid as always. A couple points for discussion Re: Ghost bullets. I believe that you are correct that these are no longer tied to the bloom mechanic like in d1. I do believe however that ghost bullets still exist heavily, just that the mechanic has SHIFTED to incoming flinch. It's difficult to test obviously, but it almost seems like you can rush a guy with a slug shotty against a wall, go for the dome dunk, and right as you pull the trigger, you get flinched off target and not only does it not crit, it doesn't hit him at all. And, it even seems that the shot doesn't appear in the wall. So where did it go? Also, this video isn't necessarily that fallout and cg disagree, but that they value different things more. I think of it more like you are trying to draft a team with a tight salary cap. Do you try to put #1 player and #2 on the same team, and not have any more money for the rest of the team?

@RoamingKat 4 жыл бұрын

One of the key issues with PvP is tied to the current network environment of the peer 2 peer infrastructure. It makes it so hard to determine whether you are missing a shot or the person you are shooting is lagging due to been a further distance away from the person hosting the match. This have been my biggest gripe since Destiny 1 and has continued to be a problem in Destiny 2. This is the one issue I wish Bungie would take the time to discuss and let the community know if this is something they are going to address in the future.

@ninjak85 4 жыл бұрын

Question. Does this apply in the same manner to all weapons? Just wondering because when this subject comes up hand cannons are the ones talked about the most, if not the only type.

@mathewpanikar2051 4 жыл бұрын

The reason hand cannon range is so talked about is mainly because of the recent range & falloff nerf. All hand cannons now have pretty similar ranges (floor to ceiling is like 6 meters). Other weapons weren't adjusted really.

@rjpriestly4607 4 жыл бұрын

Kind of. It’s just talked about more on hand cannons because we compare them to pre Shadowkeep. For example, on an auto rifle, you will get bonus aim assist if you have more range, but for the most part stability is more important.

@larryelkins3662 4 жыл бұрын

Got me feeling good about my Spare Rations. Rangefinder, snapshot, rochette rounds, a decent barrel, and a stability master work!

@Qual3n 4 жыл бұрын

How to test/judge connection to host?

@bungiesblueflames 4 жыл бұрын

So what about on PC? What would be the main stat to focus? Would it be handling?

@rjpriestly4607 4 жыл бұрын

Bungie's Blue Flames depends on what hand cannon. If you feel like you can control your gun, high handling is the way to go. A little stability isn’t bad.

@jarrodcastro4894 4 жыл бұрын

I LOVE this channel man.

@scope402 4 жыл бұрын

I play pc w/ kb+m only and I still watched this whole video for some reason lol. You did a great job on this 😂🤙

@crabbypatty10fefrefe 4 жыл бұрын

What would your ideal roll for The Oldfashioned be??? Also, what would I be looking for in Range at minimum? 50 maybe?

@candacejustinellis4541 4 жыл бұрын

So for me as a console player his raises the million dollar question. Which hand cannon should I be using between Not Forgotten and Luna’s Howl? It sounds like in the current sandbox Luna’s is far superior to Not Forgotten. Am I misinterpreting this video?

@brpitt7796 4 жыл бұрын

... Thanks a zillion coolguy... 2 days after I got a spicy Spare Rations to drop w/ fullbore, RichR, rapidH, MovT, range MW. Looks like I'll be swapping that full bore for chambered compensator. Great vid, love the scientific approach and logic you use in these pieces.