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Part 2, Why Is UK Brewed Continental Lager So Bad? UK Brewed San Miguel Vs Spanish Brewed San Miguel

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@User58747
@User58747 Жыл бұрын
I'm with you all the way Simon. There's just no excuse for the shite these multi-national brewers dump on the British public. Again, I used to love San Miguel before it was brewed in Basildon.
@johnleckieWATP
@johnleckieWATP Жыл бұрын
Basildon tells you all you need to no the water quality down there is shocking l remember having cups of tea in London it always had a scum on it.
@nigelwatson2750
@nigelwatson2750 Жыл бұрын
Simon, they water the beer down in Britain because the UK breweries know that Brits are stupid and will accept being ripped-off. What's more amazing is that the UK government allows UK brewers to pass-off watered-down beer as the 'original', continental product. A bit like selling a Ford Festa, advertised as a Ferrari.
@colliehouse3133
@colliehouse3133 Жыл бұрын
You need to do a blind test so that any bias is eliminated. 👍🏻
@leedouglasmusic
@leedouglasmusic Жыл бұрын
100%
@jameselms2416
@jameselms2416 Жыл бұрын
The blind taste test sounds like a good idea. New series incoming
@christineayres7199
@christineayres7199 Жыл бұрын
No blind test needed the UK San Mig is just crap , I only buy it if im really desperate and no other beers are available then i will sit at a garden party nursing it all day LOL
@leedouglasmusic
@leedouglasmusic Жыл бұрын
@@christineayres7199 then surely a blind test should be a piece of cake?
@colliehouse3133
@colliehouse3133 Жыл бұрын
@@christineayres7199 👍🏻
@kezchallacombe6684
@kezchallacombe6684 Жыл бұрын
The UK has a nation of pub drinkers who will accept ANYTHING as long as its cheap enough. Lets face it, look at the utter bilge and totally devoid of flavours we find in 99% of uk pubs. Fosters 3.4% abv ? John Smiths smooth 3.6% Coors lite should not even be called a beer, fizzy water around 3.4% Bud lite oh dear lord, 3.5%? And many more industrial tasteless fizz. This reason is why so many of our drinkers can drink all day long until around 10pm when they suddenly become drunk, then when they go abroad they are pissed by 2pm because they are drinking far superior beers at their original ABV, Stella UK 4.6% Belgium Stella far far superior at 5.2% but our drinkers do not care the fact of quality that becomes affected by the lower abv, less malt base, cheaper malts, cheaper hops and less of them etc. It is the Temperance mindset of British politicians who think that putting extra tax on beers over 5% abv will discourage drinkers, it only discourages the ones who don't care for quality. Germany, Belgium, Chec republic all celebrate and cherish their brewers and beers, protect them, proud of them. What our politicians should have done is target the park bench beers that are ridiculously strong but nasty like the Polish mass produced beers or White lightening Cider (that has never seen a single apple).
@andrewcarr5923
@andrewcarr5923 Жыл бұрын
Very well put, although in Scotland and Wales they do hammer the park bench beverages and rightly so. A 2.5 litre bottle of Frosty Jacks is about £11 compared to England where its only £4.50 in Iceland, pure poison in a bottle.
@loafersheffield
@loafersheffield Жыл бұрын
There is absolutely nothing wrong with Bud Light. 🏳‍🌈 Nowt reyt with it either. It's like making love in a boat. Effing next to water!
@1100CAR
@1100CAR Жыл бұрын
Loving the UK brewed comparison videos. Agree with you completely, the UK brewed under license stuff is terrible. I am sure, like has probably been mentioned, it was because the excise duty paid was more when the abv was higher. Things deemed harmful to health by the government are taxed according to weight or volume and alcohol comes into that category. The brewers had to cut the abv in the UK to keep their profits up. Could be the quality of the water and other ingredients too but i think the excise duty started it.
@frznaapl3269
@frznaapl3269 Жыл бұрын
canada has done the same, bought the brewing rights for some euro beers. i guess tradition and heritage can be bought
@LooseWheelNutPod
@LooseWheelNutPod Жыл бұрын
I was thinking along these lines but because of the tax on sugar. It’s the same with whiskey the standards are so bad right now.
@classicallpvault8251
@classicallpvault8251 Жыл бұрын
Pilsner Urquell has 4.4% ABV and is excellent beer. There's really no excuse for brewing weaker versions and have them taste horrible.
@weeg91
@weeg91 Жыл бұрын
Only reason min pricing introduced is cus a small minority in uk cant moderate consumption - few ruinn it for the many as always in this nanny state of a place
@curlem76
@curlem76 Жыл бұрын
I used to holiday quite extensively in the USA and developed a taste for Sam Adams Boston Lager and was pretty chuffed when they started importing selling it in the UK. About 4-5 years ago I bought a few bottles and upon open opening was shocked at how utterly bland it was. Upon reading the label, the reason became obvious " Brewed in the UK under licence by Shepherd Neame". Needless to say, I haven't bought any more since.
@Lee-73
@Lee-73 Жыл бұрын
Yep and Brooklyn Lager went the same way. Used to enjoy the imported 355ml bottles, but now brewed by bloody Carlsberg! Went to Boston many years ago and visited the Sam Adams brewery, the beer was fantastic.
@MrSmit1606
@MrSmit1606 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree on Brooklyn, stopped drinking when Carlsberg started producing it. Same with Red Stripe, tastes like Heineken because Heineken make it now uk
@HoppyGoLucky
@HoppyGoLucky Жыл бұрын
The worst thing about this is that these big corporate breweries like AB inbev, Marstons etc have no incentives to improve the beers as the everyday consumer will drink any old dross with an alcohol content. I feel it's a British cultural issue, they would not be able to get away with this in Belgium/Germany as they would lose all their consumers. Tragic really when people choose this stuff over quality, less well-known breweries. Consumerism at its finest.
@OscarOSullivan
@OscarOSullivan Жыл бұрын
Anglo sphere cultural issue Ireland included around food and drink
@OscarOSullivan
@OscarOSullivan Жыл бұрын
Have you heard about Ringwood and Jenning’s
@Jannes-pj4cd
@Jannes-pj4cd Жыл бұрын
San Miguel has got two breweries in Spain, one is in the Northern part of the country and the other is one is in the city of Malaga, in the southern part of the country. The brewery is located right next to the road that leads to the airport. When you ride past it you can smell the aromas that come free from the chimneys of the brewery. So when you just landed on Malaga airport and you’re riding in the car to start your holiday you’ll be greated by the aromas from San Miguel which are being released from the chimneys of the brewery.
@johnhebenton1525
@johnhebenton1525 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the North and South brews are different?
@Jannes-pj4cd
@Jannes-pj4cd Жыл бұрын
@@johnhebenton1525 Me too, I honestly don’t know that.
@OscarOSullivan
@OscarOSullivan Жыл бұрын
That is what the smell at Malaga airport was
@Jannes-pj4cd
@Jannes-pj4cd Жыл бұрын
@@OscarOSullivan Yes, that’s it.
@OscarOSullivan
@OscarOSullivan Жыл бұрын
@@Jannes-pj4cd Haven’t been there since I was 11
@grahamhanks906
@grahamhanks906 Жыл бұрын
for me the biggest problem with UK brewed beer is the chemical aftertaste from over use of chemicals in the cleaning process. most people don't notice but I can taste it every time. rather than take their time to clean everything naturally they try to speed up the process of pipe cleaning by using aggressive chemicals. I grew up in pubs (my dad was a landlord for years) and there most crucial part of getting a good beer was the cleaning process in-between barrels, get it right and you have a beautiful beer - get it wrong and you get a lot of angry customers!
@OscarOSullivan
@OscarOSullivan Жыл бұрын
Thanks some breweries don’t allow publicans or pub managers to clean the lines anymore Guinness is one such example at least in Ireland
@grahamhanks906
@grahamhanks906 Жыл бұрын
@@OscarOSullivan I can see why they would do that - badly maintained lines will damage the reputation of the brewery!
@OscarOSullivan
@OscarOSullivan Жыл бұрын
@@grahamhanks906 It means more consistency at the expensive of great pubs for pints vs terrible ones
@karl040474
@karl040474 Жыл бұрын
Yes San Miguel was originally from the Philippines when they were under Spanish rule for around 400 years. I remember being out there in 1998 when a 500ml bottle was the equivalent of 7 pence. A coke was 11 pence
@simonh6371
@simonh6371 Жыл бұрын
Wow that's cheap! I lived in Spain 1998-9 and the supermarkets used to sell chilled 1 litre screwtop glass bottles of San Miguel for 100 pesetas, which was 40p.
@brdphl
@brdphl Жыл бұрын
I’m from Canada, wife is from Philippines. Last time we were there San Miguel bottle was around 40 Philippine pesos which is around 1 Canadian dollar. We get ripped off here in Canada and UK probably the USA too. I can buy a 6 pack of San Miguel here for around 16-17 dollars. 6 bottles in the Philippines would cost me around 5-6 dollars.
@brdphl
@brdphl Жыл бұрын
They also have a beer called Red Horse. It’s 8% ABV goes for 10-20 pesos more than a regular San Miguel. 3-4 of those and the horse starts kicking in lol great stuff. Man I miss the Philippines! I plan on retiring there, life is just different there, no stress etc. drinking a few ice cold beers during a hot sunset there is the way to live.
@Gunnerty85
@Gunnerty85 Жыл бұрын
The average UK punter will drink whatever crap is available in the pub. I struggle to drink in most pubs due to rubbish they serve and when i make comments on how bad these beers are i get called a snob 😂
@andrewsteer8860
@andrewsteer8860 Жыл бұрын
Same here! Heaven forbid we should want to drink something that actually tastes good!
@Coxy_Wrecked
@Coxy_Wrecked Жыл бұрын
Hence the popularity if Carlsberg, Carling, Stella and Fosters. All UK brewed foreign beers(barring Carling), all poor imititations of the orignal, which in the case of Fosters and Carlsberg wasn't any good in the first place and 3 of them extremely weak sub 4.0% alc content. It's kind of ironic these beers(and Strongbow) are the staple for the 'lads out on the piss/football fan' crowd when you condsider you have to drink gallons of the stuff to actually get p****ed.
@simonh6371
@simonh6371 Жыл бұрын
@@Coxy_Wrecked Actually Carling is brewed in South Africa too, I think it's 5.5%. It's not bad but not as good as Windhoek from Namibia, or Castle.
@Epicurwat
@Epicurwat Жыл бұрын
One reason British San Miguel is 5.0% as opposed to 5.4% is that the brewery can put about 8% more water in the brew; by the tonne, that's a lot of money saved over the year. That also explains why the British brew is lighter, even if they are supposed to be using the same recipe otherwise.
@drumz9
@drumz9 Жыл бұрын
Hi Simon, I'm so glad that you have finally got round to these cheats lagars that are brewed here in the UK! Three years ago I stopped buying Corona because I bought a box thinking it was brewed in Mexico. I opened it, took out a bottle, and swigged it! This big metallic taste hit my tongue and it was vile. I looked on the side of the box and some of the Spanish words had been replaced with "Brewed under licence in the UK ". My wife is Mexican and I visit there regularly, so I know that what I should of tasted was a nettle/ slightly herbal taste, this other stuff had none of that! Over the months I have noticed other brands with "Brewed under licence "popping up everywhere! I think you will sadly be making a part 3,4 5,10 etc videos before something gets done! Keep up the good work and I hope a campaign is brought up to make people more aware of this, as I believe people clearly don't realise! 🍻🍻
@peterm7548
@peterm7548 Жыл бұрын
Hi Gaza, looks like we need a Campaign for Real Imported Lager! You can see from my comment that I feel the same as you and Simon.
@drumz9
@drumz9 Жыл бұрын
@Peter M Hi Peter, it great that you also feel this way in what is a very important and shocking miss Trust of these companies! I hope that Simon reads this and uses his great influence to get the ball rolling! Kind regards, Gaza.
@peterm7548
@peterm7548 Жыл бұрын
@@drumz9 Thanks mate!
@heiltd1286
@heiltd1286 Жыл бұрын
'......... What I should OF tasted'. How about 'Should'VE tasted'. Your English is as abysmal as your taste in beers!
@raycourtsi
@raycourtsi Жыл бұрын
They had Spanish 5.4% on sale in some uk supermarkets during COVID, I guess excess stock diverted from non existent visitors to Spain. Nice drop in summer, that I took advantage of when i could, enjoying quite a few x24 cases over those strange times 😊
@OscarOSullivan
@OscarOSullivan Жыл бұрын
Beamish in Irish Wetherspoons is weaker at 4 percent abv to the regular 4.3 percent it is awful
@MattyHalsall
@MattyHalsall Жыл бұрын
San miguel was on offer in tesco last week. I haven't had it for ages so thought I'd pick up a 10 pack for £8. I thought it tasted absolutely awful. I had 2 cans and then gave the rest away. When it comes to Lager, anything English brewed is terrible. I'll be sticking to Victoria Malaga and Budvar or Pilsner Urquell.
@patthewoodboy
@patthewoodboy Жыл бұрын
great choices of lager , I go for the same
@heiltd1286
@heiltd1286 Жыл бұрын
That statement is based on ignorance and unwillingness to seek out some great English ( Welsh and Scottish too) lagers.
@MattyHalsall
@MattyHalsall Жыл бұрын
@@heiltd1286 believe me I have tried over the years. We just don't have the quality of water here to brew good lager. And all of our big brewing companies are more bothered about penny pinching than actually producing a decent beer. Czechs and Germans know what they're doing when it comes to Lager
@heiltd1286
@heiltd1286 Жыл бұрын
@@MattyHalsall Windsor And Eton do a damned good lager. So does Rebellion. Also Thornbridge Lager I've tried and liked. Sam Smith's Pure Brewed is fine too.
@simonh6371
@simonh6371 Жыл бұрын
@@heiltd1286 They're probably alright but they don't have the centuries of experience which continental breweries have so it's difficult to know if they're any good. Plus no purity law here.
@2370mchal
@2370mchal Жыл бұрын
I always stick too Pilsner Urquell as it’s the only imported beer I can find in the supermarkets, great beer!
@William-Anderson
@William-Anderson Жыл бұрын
You referred to the 25cl bottle as a 25ml bottle and did the same in the Stella review lol. That would be a couple of table spoons worth of beer 😅🤣
@Coxy_Wrecked
@Coxy_Wrecked Жыл бұрын
Bait and switch. Get the punters hooked on the imported original then swap for a British made version that uses a slightly different recipe and/or cheaper ingredients, often with a lower abv and hope the casual drinkers don't notice or just continue to buy out of habit.
@nigelwatson2750
@nigelwatson2750 Жыл бұрын
Bait and water-down 🤣
@Nee69
@Nee69 Жыл бұрын
I agree 100% its so effin' frustrating. And its been going on for years because the British public accept it. It will never change until we say no more. We want the same quality beer as our continental cousins. And not even abroad. Look how the big conglomerates has virtually destroyed the quality of Newcastle Brown ale. Its just beyond me???
@chucklemunch
@chucklemunch Жыл бұрын
So pleased you doing these comparisons. I’m so lucky to have shop walking distance from my house that sells Spanish San Miguel. Done many side by sides of this and other cheat lagers. Please try and do the one that’s under the radar for most, Heineken. If you go get a 4 pack of 440ml cans, then go to any supermarket and grab a 6 pack of the 330ml cans. The 440ml cans are UK brewed, the 330ml cans are Dutch brewed. I never buy any other Heineken than the 330ml cans. It’s more malt sweetness, and less bitter twang. A much more well balanced beer even though both are 5%. Heineken are now just recently short changing UK consumers with their role out of 4.6% Cruzcampo. Haven’t tried it yet, but just another example of this BS. The worst one by far that I have tried is UK Amstel Vs Dutch. Horrific. Keep ‘em coming!
@RossRussell1994
@RossRussell1994 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree on the UK brewed Amstel, that stuff is absolutely dreadful! Far better over in the Netherlands
@colin5777
@colin5777 Жыл бұрын
Can’t agree more completely different drink😮
@savagehenry8264
@savagehenry8264 Жыл бұрын
because its all about price point for Brits, they'll drink anything if its cheap - quality doesn't come into it. Not all Brits mind you, but the majority I reckon
@JuiceTerry87
@JuiceTerry87 12 күн бұрын
But San Miguel in Spain is cheaper than any of the mass brewed UK lagers
@savagehenry8264
@savagehenry8264 12 күн бұрын
@@JuiceTerry87 one word. Tax
@aliensintheloft
@aliensintheloft Жыл бұрын
I get your general point about continental lagers being weakened in UK, but I actually find San Miguel to be one of the better ones - bready, with a very slight hint of liquorice; very well balanced too. At 5% it's still a strong lager.
@ryangosling135
@ryangosling135 Жыл бұрын
It's by far the best of the supermarket lagers
@foxmeisteruk
@foxmeisteruk Жыл бұрын
Yeah - it isn't anywhere near as good as the Spanish brewed San Miguel, but it is definitely the best of a bad lot in my opinion, when it comes to lagers I can get chilled from the fridge from my local Tesco Express.
@elvingtonred
@elvingtonred Жыл бұрын
It's crap from the U.K. find an importer, pay more.
@aliensintheloft
@aliensintheloft Жыл бұрын
@@elvingtonred Nah, as far as supermarket lagers go, it's tip-top. I like it 👌
@OscarOSullivan
@OscarOSullivan Жыл бұрын
What about the Polish lagers we get Polish lager in Ireland
@MrJocky82
@MrJocky82 Жыл бұрын
Simon the water quality in Scotland is incredible, And I think that shows with Innis and Gunn. And another one of my favourites, Arran blonde beer. I don't know if you've tried Arran Blonde. You should try it.
@scottb5907
@scottb5907 Жыл бұрын
Many UK brewed continental lagers are terrible, and Stella is probably the worst. But that just isn't true of San Miguel which is perfectly good quality.
@lightoftheworld417
@lightoftheworld417 Жыл бұрын
Always remember seeing San Miguel travelling from Malaga to my destination at 10 years old. Would of loved to have seen Stella unfiltered included in the previous video.
@alexshort8055
@alexshort8055 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think the U.K. variant of San Miguel is too bad to be honest. I absolutely don’t doubt that the Spanish-brewed ‘original’ is better, but this certainly - in my opinion, anyway - the equivalent of Belgian v.s. U.K. Stella Artois
@insanegymrat4837
@insanegymrat4837 Жыл бұрын
Don't think the majority of the UK population that drink UK brewed continental lagers realise that they are actually inferior. I didn't even know until watching you. I'm not a Stella lover and I can just about drink San Miguel and now I'd love to try the real brewed stuff.
@weeg91
@weeg91 Жыл бұрын
Previsely how they get away with it
@peterm7548
@peterm7548 Жыл бұрын
San Miguel was founded in 1890 by a Spaniard, Enrique Maria Baretto, through the grant of a Spanish Royal Charter when the Philippines were a Spanish colony, so its origins are colonial Spanish. Never really went for this one as the Spanish version, though tasty, is too strong for me and the UK version is well, meh! I prefer the less strong Spanish export lagers like Estrella Damm (4.6%) and Estrella Galicia (4.7%) which are still Spanish brewed. Good to drink at this time of year. So glad you are doing this - we need to highlight how British drinkers are being treated like fools through fake "foreign" beers brewed here which are nothing like the original in the home country. Main reason is our huge duty on strong beer making multinational brewers brew a weaker version for the UK market and skimp on quality through fast and cheap brewing methods.
@ste9430
@ste9430 Жыл бұрын
Thank god for Google eh
@peterm7548
@peterm7548 Жыл бұрын
@@ste9430 yep the source of all wisdom and knowledge! 😂
@ste9430
@ste9430 Жыл бұрын
@@peterm7548 👍😂😂😂
@Doupyourflies
@Doupyourflies Жыл бұрын
It's all the shit our privatised water companies are dumping into our water. You can't clean it completely. The shareholders do not drink British drinks. As for water, I expect they drink Perrier. I blame the nanny state Conservative Party for the alcohol tax and privatising the water companies in the first place. I also blame the brewers for being too freakin' greedy. Say NO to British beer.
@JimmiG84
@JimmiG84 Жыл бұрын
I think you're right about the water. I don't think UK water is necessarily inferior, but different types of water are better for certain styles of beer. Even with modern water treatment I think this still holds true. The lower ABV is almost certainly a cost cutting measure. They either use a lower original gravity in the wort or simply dilute the beer with water...
@TeamCGS2005
@TeamCGS2005 Жыл бұрын
It's not just the water. It's inferior ingredients and brewing methods as well.
@simonh6371
@simonh6371 Жыл бұрын
@@TeamCGS2005 For sure. But it would make a difference if they sourced good soft mountain water to brew these inferior copies.
@dansharpe2364
@dansharpe2364 Жыл бұрын
This is particularly interesting to me as I grew up in British-controlled Hong Kong, and San Miguel was brewed in Hong Kong under licence from the Philippines. And yet whilst Filipino San Mig, which we could get in some bars and supermarkets, was great, the Hong Kong brewed San Mig (or "Sun Lik" as the locals called it, hence the name of that beer you occasionally find in Chinese restaurants here) was dire. Truly awful. Not as bad as Budweiser, obviously, but still awful. So we drank locally brewed Carlsberg and Lowenbrau instead.
@Class68driver
@Class68driver Жыл бұрын
Isn't it 5% as beers above that in the UK attract a higher tax??
@Doupyourflies
@Doupyourflies Жыл бұрын
Tax is just a poor excuse. They dropped it to lower brewing time and save money. They dropped Stella to 4.8%, no one complained, so not being completely stupid, they dropped it to 4.6%. I expect it'll be 3.8% in a couple of years. It our fault for being stupid. It's simple to correct, just don't by any British beer, they're having a laugh.
@nigelwatson2750
@nigelwatson2750 Жыл бұрын
@@Doupyourflies Hurray, somebody else gets it.
@FOETRAIN
@FOETRAIN Жыл бұрын
Hi. The thresholds are at 3.5% and 8.5% , So the variations that occur in the ABV as in this video will make very little effect on the price.
@greislige
@greislige Жыл бұрын
When in Munich you should definitely try the Augustiner in a beer garden draught from a huge wooden barrel. It will blow your mind. E. g. Hirschgarten (they serve Helles) or Augustiner Keller (they have Edelstoff). The Augustiner on tap in the Stammhaus in the centre is also from wooden barrels. Go to the self-service area, there you can eat your own food as well, or buy the beer garden specialities. My personal favourite is the Bavarian grease bread, or Schmalzbrot, it's the best foundation to the beer :) The oak cask adds to the flavour. No bottled beer is anywhere near. Also, the atmosphere in the beer garden, the smell of the fish on a stick or the Bratwurst and theat of the chestnut trees add to the beer aroma, which makes it an unforgattable experience.
@martin_miller
@martin_miller Жыл бұрын
Uk brewed beer pretending to be imported REALLY winds me up and has for decades. Thing is, I think we can brew decent lagers in the UK… there are smaller breweries that manage to do it well, so can it really just be water? I am not convinced… I think it is more to do with cost / perceived consumer preferences. The microbrew revolution has shown that “we” don’t want the tasteless bitters of the 70’s / 80’s. I hope there is a similar change for lager as proper lager is amazing I am always scouring the labels for any “brewed under licence in the UK” and will avoid at all costs, just grim. I am glad you can get Budvar and Pilsner Urquell relatively easily these days around here.
@ian4675
@ian4675 Жыл бұрын
Love the channel. Have to ask why does everything look warm :). I always like my beer looking like Ice Cold in Alex. I do think chasing the water sports in the sun and great beer is the goal.
@davidgreen7380
@davidgreen7380 14 күн бұрын
Thanks to you Simon i will no longer drink British brewed lager beers, Aldi Steinhauser, Krombacker, Estrella Galicia, always exported stuff, And i find i do not get those beer headaches i used to get drinking British brewed pub crap
@jasonsmith7737
@jasonsmith7737 4 ай бұрын
Brilliant review . Agree with every word . I’m stuck too as my daughter doing GCSEs this year . Why is everything dumbed down , it’s so frustrating…. Need to get out and experience a sunnier life with better beer 🍺
@Richard.Allsop
@Richard.Allsop Жыл бұрын
They get away with it because, unlike Belgium where each beer has its own individual glass and a wide variety of tastes, a large majority of British drinkers are merely interested in necking as much as possible in as short a time as possible, to the point where they would happily drink cold piss out of a bucket as long as it got them fighting drunk!
@kufena
@kufena Жыл бұрын
I can highly recommend Munich - lived there for a year and a bit - didn't speak German when I arrived and lived off Milka chocolate and tins of Lowenbrau. Got into it quite quickly. You need to visit three times, at least, though. Once for the spring festival, once in the summer - beer in the English garden, and on a cold snowy weekend - walk in to the Augustiner keller and order a dunkel beer. Divine. Great food too. Ah, can't sing its praises enough. Oktoberfest is fun too, but not sure what it's like now (this was end of the 1980s, it was all rotisserie chickens and bulls on spits - great fun - and singing in the tents - oh, ok, that's a fourth visit.)
@JasonShinks
@JasonShinks Жыл бұрын
I'm convinced that British versions of continental beers are brewed weaker becuase, nobody knows better what we're like after a few strong lagers than us 😆
@frznaapl3269
@frznaapl3269 Жыл бұрын
Simon this is your best rant yet! so many people used to doing what they're told and to not complain
@RobHealey
@RobHealey Жыл бұрын
It's not just UK copies of foreign beers being disappointing, here in Australia the copies are also disappointing. Peroni, Heineken, Stella Artois and Carlsberg are sometimes listed as "imported beers" even when they are brewed in Australia and there is a noticeable difference in taste - that's the reason that I found this video. Even a beer that was brewed for years in my city was finally brewed in another city when our brewery closed down and immediately tasted different. Surely with current technology we could duplicate a beer? I think the brewers aren't trying hard enough, relying on the name to sell their copies. As a mate told me once, there are no bad beers, but some are better than others.
@noescape9923
@noescape9923 Жыл бұрын
When I tried euro Stella in 2001 I realised what crap is brewed for the UK market and our supposed "taste preferences." It's complete horsehockey.
@bjb536
@bjb536 Жыл бұрын
I would love someone to mass produce a proper lager here in the UK, a new brand brewed to the same standards as say a German lager. Find the best quality water supply in the UK, set up a large brewery near the source and produce a proper beer Brits can be proud to drink.
@andrewgrave
@andrewgrave Жыл бұрын
Brewdog do this with Lost Lager. Some other British lagers like Camden Helles and Innis & Gunn are good too.
@chrisbradish626
@chrisbradish626 Жыл бұрын
I think Camden Hells is the closest we have to that. I don’t actually like the beer when poured into a glass, but drinking straight from a 330ml bottle is tastes like a proper German beer. Strange.
@FOETRAIN
@FOETRAIN Жыл бұрын
The ABV variation from the Continental versions is just plain weird. The differences in Alcohol strangth will make nearly bugger all difference to the cost as no major thresholds are affected (and even they do not make that much difference to beer costs, just to VERY strong, over 8.4% Ciders)
@tobyjackman3212
@tobyjackman3212 Жыл бұрын
Inferior lager is sadly one of the least depressing things about the UK in 2023. & I speak as an occasional lager enthusiast 🤦🏼‍♀️ I suggest a visit to a decent Polish shop
@simonh6371
@simonh6371 Жыл бұрын
That's a good idea about the Polish shop. I can get decent bread and ham too, something else we can't do properly in the UK.
@daz6637
@daz6637 Жыл бұрын
I was posted to Borneo as a soldier, San Mig was the drink in Hong Kong and certain parts of Malaysia which had a Filipino population like Labuan in Borneo, a tax free island inhabited by oil workers and ladies of the night. San Mig pale pilsen cost about 20p a bottle in places and was good. I told a couple of RAF throbbers that it was from the Philippines, but they didn’t believe me, that was back in 2007!
@chrisbradish626
@chrisbradish626 Жыл бұрын
I *think* one of the reasons the ABV is lower on UK brewed beers is the general attitude towards “higher” ABV beers. If you’re a general beer drinker and not into craft, anything above 5% is seen as a really high percentage, and you’re more likely to get really drunk/have a hangover. The amount of times I’ve seen people see a 6% IPA and say something along the lines of “oh that’s a strong beer, I’d be on the floor later”. To people who drink craft beer, the higher ABV doesn’t really bother us. The difference between 5% and 6% isn’t that much. Most beer drinkers would rather stick to their 4-5% ABV beers.
@andrewsteer8860
@andrewsteer8860 Жыл бұрын
It’s to do with how alcohol content is taxed but English drinking culture probably comes into their popularity! Can’t drink 10 pints of a 6% beer
@nigelwatson2750
@nigelwatson2750 Жыл бұрын
They water the beer down in Britain because it lowers costs. Water is cheaper than barley, malt and hops, get it?
@chrisbradish626
@chrisbradish626 Жыл бұрын
@@nigelwatson2750 I said one of the reasons. Not the only reason.
@Sveinbeard
@Sveinbeard Жыл бұрын
I love the UK brewed San Miguel...provided if it is from a bottle. The can version is no where near as good. I have also had the Filipino version. Also very nice. Not tried the Spannish version.
@x24valveman
@x24valveman Жыл бұрын
When anyone in the UK gets a contract to produce anything not homed in the UK. The first thing they do is cut the cost of making it, then excuse this as adjusting the product for UK palates.
@liamhobbis9884
@liamhobbis9884 Жыл бұрын
Correct me if I’m wrong. But it’s the norm for brewers to adjust water ph and mineral content for the beer they are brewing. I’d assume with such a macro beer they would adjust the water to be practically the same wherever they brew. Otherwise the scope for difference would be much more noticeable surely.
@johnhead3431
@johnhead3431 Жыл бұрын
I like your rants. a taste of the U.K brewed one was like flicking a switch. One that baffles me is Anahi brewing under license in Italy to sell here. It's like, must you, Asahi, really?
@johnhead3431
@johnhead3431 Жыл бұрын
Asahi..
@jamescurrent8794
@jamescurrent8794 Жыл бұрын
Once you're awake you can not go back to sleep.
@tansan101
@tansan101 4 ай бұрын
I agree, it's the water quality. San Miguel Manila brewery uses dam water vs San Miguel in the province using spring water, what a difference.
@sean_heisler
@sean_heisler Жыл бұрын
Ha ha. Have you compared prices? Maybe the UK version is a lot cheaper?
@onemorecast6001
@onemorecast6001 Жыл бұрын
Can’t tell the difference myself. I don’t mind these beers, they seem okay to me.
@jameskrell4392
@jameskrell4392 Жыл бұрын
I’m glad you are doing this as I have been saying this for years. It should be illegal to even imply that British brewed foreign beers are connected or akin to there real counter parts. Its a discrace and dodgy. I have been searching out real overseas beer in the UK for over forty years and it becomes harder and harder.
@OscarOSullivan
@OscarOSullivan Жыл бұрын
Given how Lucas electrics was able to keep going on the way they did I am not surprised this is happening
@djaxxx077
@djaxxx077 8 ай бұрын
it is mainly indeed due to the water quality. Jupiler once produced in an other location in Belgium with local water, and it tasted completely different than the normal Jupiler
@johnsometimesoffandsometim8933
@johnsometimesoffandsometim8933 Жыл бұрын
I had a pint of Stella in California some years ago 3% reply was when I asked if someone had pissed in the barrel The surprised reply was gee thats a strong beer sir. So much for Uncle Sam.
@catman2629
@catman2629 Жыл бұрын
Strength differences are probably down to excise duty rates , also brewers gave assurances to government to reduce alcohol strength hence Stella is now down to 4.5% where it was 5.2 % back in the 80s
@POPPYTHERED
@POPPYTHERED Жыл бұрын
Apparently keeping the abv between 5% and lower in the uk is for tax reasons 👍🏻
@paulisbest1970
@paulisbest1970 Жыл бұрын
GF put me onto you Sir. FAAAAAR superior judgement and I concur and clapped so many times during your vids. I'm old skool, worked at many gigs in the 90s trade fair. Spotting San and Stella when I've said it for years makes me feel so much better. I shall becaome an avid watcher. Peace and love big yin. x
@MarkGFRex
@MarkGFRex Жыл бұрын
I've had a bottle in the the fridge for so long (it was a gift and I couldn't be arsed to drink it) it had gone out of date. It's a nice day today so I thought I should open it and try it. Sadly it doesn't get better with age.
@mymic208
@mymic208 Жыл бұрын
I think its because this beer is made on a spreadsheet, they know if they spend X amount on advertising, pumping it out in a 2 for £9 deal, spending Y amount on actually making the beer, they'll make more money than if they were to either, A import the genuine article, or B make a decent lager in the first place. I really loathe these kind of beers, that make you think you're buying a continental lager, when it's largely all brewed at carlsberg UK in northhampton.
@SG400E
@SG400E Жыл бұрын
Great review Simon, just proves quality is just a taste away, people need to try the real thing
@Ngamer834
@Ngamer834 Жыл бұрын
I don't really know why they're different but guessing Tax reasons and for what ever reasons more expensive in the Uk market. It's always better drinking abroad you go into bars and they are more liberal with their shots etc seems in the UK we are always ripped off. Then again without being horrible they know the average consumer of San Miguel is just going to neck it and not care. When you think cans of Carling can still be sold in the UK it makes sense lol.
@andyc750
@andyc750 Жыл бұрын
I have to say I believe it is partly due to the water, what you have to remember is these foreign beers were developed with local water and made to work with that, the British version is made with water it was not ever designed to use hence the taste difference to a degree, that and the altering of the ABV which is likely cost related and so uses inferior ingredients etc, and would suspect the same would happen in reverse were they to try to brew some of the British beers in these countries, these things were developed in the original areas as they suited what they have available and so do not usually work when brewed elsewhere, the big breweries have ruined plenty of Brit beers by moving them to another location within the UK so obviously location and water alone has a huge impact on taste
@Jan-zr4ls
@Jan-zr4ls Жыл бұрын
Hi Simon, for good and cheap beer you have to travel to Prague and I say that as a German ;)
@stevena9305
@stevena9305 13 күн бұрын
I used to buy this in one litre bottles,in Tesco years ago. Was that Spanish brewed? The current UK version is not the same as those big bottles and I suspect they were imported.
@neilus0
@neilus0 Жыл бұрын
20 years ago my regular drink was Holsten pils in a bottle. Was always great at 5.2%. One day I noticed it tasted off, after looking at the bottle the ABV was 5.0% and brewed in the UK. Never drank it again, it was ruined. In pubs I drink Guinness and polish beer at home, never UK made rubbish
@HermieMunster
@HermieMunster Жыл бұрын
They’ve been reducing the ABV for years. I remember the piss water stuff that Heineken used to sell, launched the proper stuff as ‘premium’ but the damage has already been done to my tastebuds! Try and avoid the mass produced stuff if possible although I did have a half decent pint of Fosters but that’s only because it was really cold and a hot day!
@andybetts23
@andybetts23 Жыл бұрын
I had a San Miguel and a Coffee, waiter service in Gran Canaria last year both excellent quality and under 6 euros.
@Britboy2877
@Britboy2877 Жыл бұрын
Correct me if im wrong, but isn't the main reason we have the problem here with inferior beer and ABV lowered is purely because of tax reasons for the breweries? I can remember the stella of the 90s 5.2% and the golden standard for lager was usually 5% that is now lowered in most. The other day ive read that Carlsberg Pilsner is now being lowered to 3.4%, even at its original 3.8% that's not pilsner strength or taste
@mhdawber
@mhdawber Жыл бұрын
It’s been a long-term bugbear of mine. AB InBev have done it to Corona too. The UK-brewed stuff is just dreadful compared to the imported Mexican stuff.
@TeamCGS2005
@TeamCGS2005 Жыл бұрын
Loving this series mate. Thanks again.
@stephenelliott6923
@stephenelliott6923 6 ай бұрын
Hi, just letting you know that Morrisons and I believe Sainsbury's sell Dutch brewed Heineken 330ml x 6 cans. Just in case you wanted to do a UK Heineken vs Netherlands Heineken beer battle in the future?
@jeffrey7890
@jeffrey7890 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, something with water. I used to drink Broklyn Larger, which was a lovely beer anyway around 2016/2017. They changed the label and came in 660ml bottles. I thought banging anyway it tasted off, so I tried another bottle, and it didn't taste nice. Turns out Carsberg bought out the company and mass produced it in sweden and somewhere else, and i won't touch the stuff now. It's minging, man. Only beers or should i say beer is tsingtao as its imported. I think Ashai is now being brewed in the Uk as the last time i had it, that wasn't nice. Can you please do a review on imported and what we buy on the shelves here in the uk on the following: Brooklyn Larger Ashai Csrlsberg
@murrayarmstrong499
@murrayarmstrong499 Жыл бұрын
I have been buying Asahi which is brewed by Peroni in Italy. I like it.
@marcusfranconium3392
@marcusfranconium3392 Жыл бұрын
Ah one major item with spanish and lating america plus brazil . they have family size bottles . sitting around in a cantina , dinner table or patio and poor from a 2 liter bottle.
@kevinmeehan5383
@kevinmeehan5383 Жыл бұрын
This is brilliant. I have been thinking this for years. The UK brewed beers are much inferior for reasons we can only guess: poorer quality control, cheaper hops / base ingredients, looking to increase profit margin further etc etc. Please also check Heinekin. Heinekin bottles in the supermarket used to always be dutch. Now they've become 'brewed in the UK and Netherlands' which essentially means 'we brew Heineken in the UK and we also brew it in Netherlands'. No information about that bottle's exact origin. It would be great if you could get one of these bottles from tesco and try it against a dutch Heinekin. The difference is night and day
@Gaberis
@Gaberis Жыл бұрын
the main reason why they drop ABV is that you buy and drink less beer when he is stronger. It's marketing.
@leemc5646
@leemc5646 Жыл бұрын
So they push the public to buy more of the weaker larger, more money and more tax generated
@markleitch7328
@markleitch7328 Жыл бұрын
I think bit of an overreaction Yes uk brewed macros are pretty awful but at least San Miguel still 5% - give me that over a carling, Heineken, fosters, corona anyday - 1/10 and to say it’s getting poured down industrial drain bit harsh. Had far far worse lagers
@roberttyler2861
@roberttyler2861 Жыл бұрын
Beer A'clock: Uploaded at 11am on a wednesday - get in there
@rowlandprice
@rowlandprice Жыл бұрын
Just watched a couple of your videos brilliant 👍🏻 are you from Wrexham by any chance?
@fuzzydunlop1988
@fuzzydunlop1988 Жыл бұрын
It's the same in Ireland, except It's €3.50-5 for one of them bomber bottles in an off license. Ridiculous. We're being robbed
@garyhinson3876
@garyhinson3876 Жыл бұрын
second best Britain, as usual, have you tried any of the home grown lagers, such as ones from Freedom and West ?
@keithlow3056
@keithlow3056 Жыл бұрын
Guinness bottles sold in Spain, are brewed in Belgium. Heineken in Spain is brewed in Saville.
@tedslaughter169
@tedslaughter169 Жыл бұрын
Spot on Simon! Folk there go on about brewdog beer but the u.s. brewed stuff is vile. great review 👍
@hittitecharioteer
@hittitecharioteer Жыл бұрын
Been saying for THREE decades that British brewed lagers are to real lager beer what Dairylea is to cheese. And people I know say I'm wrong.
@JosshDockerty-qj7ur
@JosshDockerty-qj7ur 8 ай бұрын
TERRIBLE!!!! 😂 it is Simon, you can buy 1L bottles in Spain for around 2 euros 50 and it’s a different gravy. It’s such a shame.
@lawrencehallett5669
@lawrencehallett5669 Жыл бұрын
Poretti is another one, initially imported from Italy , now brewed at Charles Wells brewery. It's the water that makes it great. I maybe a bit biased as my father in law worked there !!
@colinhathaway9493
@colinhathaway9493 Жыл бұрын
You’re saying something has to change and I agree with you. I love proper Belgian and German brewed beer but most people I know just want cheap. That’s what it comes down to. Sorry to say
@andrewcarr5923
@andrewcarr5923 Жыл бұрын
Another example of a once great imported beer being ruined beyond all recognition is Becks which is now brewed In the UK, 4% tasteless yellow water, although if you hunt around you can still get the 5% real deal in some corner shops or online.
@joelo2959
@joelo2959 Жыл бұрын
San Miguel has developed from a brewery to a giant conglomerate in the Philippines with numerous businesses from food and beverage to power generation. It set up a brewery in Hong Kong in the 1950s. I was lucky to receive a San Miguel scholarship to support my university education. They invited me to visit their brewery and have lunch there, of course with beer. The beer I drunk in the brewery was unpasteurized draught beer. The taste is so wonderful (creamy, full of malt sweetness and hop fragrance) that I still remember clearly now (despite 38 years later!) and use it as a benchmark for evaluating other lager beers. Sadly, the quality of San Miguel in HK has declined after relocation of its brewery to mainland China. It has become just another industrial lager beer, though it is still much better than the cheap Chinese beers in HK market (except Tsingtao beer, to be fair).
@davidnicholas7695
@davidnicholas7695 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree. However,if you don't know the difference, you don'tknow what you are missing.
@thedandyp
@thedandyp Жыл бұрын
Simon, how about doing something about our crap UK lager...why not do a little series of videos highlighting either the best UK brewed lagers, or the easily available imported ones, for BBQ season (so packs of 6/10/12, rather than large single bottles)? I know you're a big fan of Aldi's Steinhauser, why not a few videos focused on what beers like that, beers that are actually available to us, rather than the pale imaitations we're duped into buying?
@chrisbradish626
@chrisbradish626 Жыл бұрын
Because the video wouldn’t be very long 😂 plenty of great single bottles available to us (lots of German lagers to be found) but very few multipacks. I did see that Ocado stock Hoffmesiter and Bitburger multipacks now though so that’s a start.
@SunWindWave
@SunWindWave Жыл бұрын
I'm quite partial to a cold can of draught Guinness which I pretty certain is brewed in UK. Be interesting to hear your thoughts on the genuine Irish version. Cheers. Update, sorry, didn't read the can, 'brewed in Ireland'. Lovely stuff!
@plrndl
@plrndl Жыл бұрын
Guinness hasn't been brewed in the UK since 2005, when the brewery in west London was closed and demolished.
@chrisnewton9788
@chrisnewton9788 Жыл бұрын
Why do most Brits accept inferior beer? It's mostly due to price point. The big commercial breweries can produce it cheap enough for most pockets. The better quality small brewery beer comes at a higher cost. That'd why the craft market can only go so far. Blame the government and it's tax policies. Look at the price of a beer on the continent, in general, compared to us.
@lawrencehallett5669
@lawrencehallett5669 Жыл бұрын
Why are they allowed to put authentic flavour on the bottom of the label ? Surely that's covered by trade description act !!!
@lizzardgorts9508
@lizzardgorts9508 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see if you can get some Belgian Heverlee, it used to be one of my favourite beers until around a year or two ago it stopped being brewed in Belgium and started being brewed by C&C in Glasgow. It just tastes like Tennents now
@s125ish
@s125ish Жыл бұрын
I thought that was made of brand and not actually Belgium
@eamondevlin1860
@eamondevlin1860 Жыл бұрын
Its because they can get away with it and sell it to supermarkets & bargain booze shops. The target audience isn't that fussed when faced with a price point of £12 for 12 x 440ml cans. An all day party for less that £25.
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