Part 7 New Heights Homemade Coaxial Helicopter Learning to FLY

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BenDixey

BenDixey

Жыл бұрын

A nerve racking decision to go higher but I'm pleased with the result. Helicopter is tethered as always.

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@Patriottoo2
@Patriottoo2 Жыл бұрын
You're a brilliant, lucky bloke. Seeing you fly your project from the FPV perspective is soooo emotionally powerful. You have achieved something that is far beyond most of us. I have made and flown kites, and an RC quadcopter... but, you have made from scratch your own flying machine. OMG! A true marvel! Cheers!
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Wow, what a lovely comment. Thank you, I've enjoyed showing it with people.
@NikosDikefalos
@NikosDikefalos Жыл бұрын
Great job my dear friend. You are one step away from flying high
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your support Nikos, you have been very helpful in your comments. 👍
@Fornaxfornax1
@Fornaxfornax1 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the next video
@mrkhokhar4895
@mrkhokhar4895 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful learning much better
@camcreative3436
@camcreative3436 Жыл бұрын
One more cool video. like it
@rajeevshagun7409
@rajeevshagun7409 Жыл бұрын
Wow as careful as you were before,you pointed out the shortcomings... I am so glad to seeing you hovering your machine well finally. Thanks for let us being witnesses of all your progress . With your machine . Congratulations brother
@davidmcc359
@davidmcc359 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding... Would be delighted if I had even 1% of your knowledge to get to the stage you are here and it's good that you take educated advice from those offering. Absolutely amazing watching the developement and look forward to the day you shove this beauty down the lane and fly over that field in the air..
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the nice comment 👍
@michaz2074
@michaz2074 Жыл бұрын
I remember you barely lifting off. And now you're hovering 1 meter above the gorund. Great progress, keep up with it!
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊😊
@Mister_G
@Mister_G Жыл бұрын
Wow, that's fantastic - you're really flying a home made helicopter! Awesome achievement.
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊
@igorb4650
@igorb4650 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing the journey! Quite as feast of the project you got yourself there.
@xyzero1682
@xyzero1682 Жыл бұрын
Amazing craft!
@Goatee_yay
@Goatee_yay Жыл бұрын
Yessss! Glad to see you try some altitude! It makes a huge difference. Amazing progress!
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Thanks Kevin
@gol0914
@gol0914 Жыл бұрын
This is spectacular
@helicopterdriver
@helicopterdriver Жыл бұрын
There is a difference in being higher and out of downwash compression. I would recommend trying to grip the cyclic lower so that your arm is resting on your leg, or at least add a pad of sorts to rest on. It stabilizes it and allows you to just use your fingers to manipulate the cyclic and less movement required overall. I used to fly 8 hours a day. Holding your hand up like that gets tiring really quick. Force yourself to see the big picture when hovering. It's like driving a car in traffic. You have to be aware of surroundings and the visual feedback. I would probably get rid of the tether after a bit more practice. Basically you can control it at this point. Tethers are meant to keep it from flying away when first starting out I believe. It could become a hazard. Wishing you calm winds and pedal turns! :D
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for the info. A pad to help support my arm is an idea to look at 👍I took your advice on looking at the surroundings and it is much better. The first time yesterday I was taking off looking forward rather than at the ground at it allowed me to take off much more level I thought. Things would have to go very wrong for the tether to ever get taught but it has to be there as much as I don't want or need it. I attempted taking off with a tail wind once, I didn't like that at all, horrible. There is so much skill in flying these things and so many variables, it's great learning though.
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
I've read about the effects of CG in helicopters. It seems my helicopter is flying tail heavy, (possibly looking at the video) what I've found in testing is that a out of balance condition causes me to drift forward or backwards. Am I causing the drift? shouldn't I be able to hover with the helicopter out of level? Thanks Ben
@helicopterdriver
@helicopterdriver Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-Dixey Not knowing the rotor head assembly travel limits I can't really answer that scenario. You could theoretically run out of cyclic authority at some point if it is too far out. If You hang it from the mast, load the seat appropriately for your weight, fuel, oil, etc. and then see how level the skids are then you will know for sure. To far off CG in any direction is where you are going to have safety issues due to loss of cyclic authority. Once it goes past your control, you are a passenger. Baby steps... you got this.
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍 I will do a hang test before the next outing. I think I prefer a slightly tail heavy condition I don't like it when the rear of the helicopter lifts off first and I tip forward. Perfectly balanced would be the right choice though by the sounds of it.
@aa777888
@aa777888 Жыл бұрын
Just make the cyclic shorter and rest your arm on your leg.
@Lasenggo
@Lasenggo Жыл бұрын
Glad to see your progress ❤️. Safety first always.
@airfoilsinmotion4777
@airfoilsinmotion4777 Жыл бұрын
Hello Sir, Just found you video series. Very nice content. When you switch to the pilot’s view my stomach tightened up a bit. (Just from watching) I will have to go back and view the previous material. At least you don’t have to “drag” your machine too far to fly.... Thanks again
@CR-lz5yx
@CR-lz5yx Жыл бұрын
Awesome!!!
@okgo8315
@okgo8315 Жыл бұрын
Aaaahhh great hovering at 3ft I've been waiting with abaited breath for this........ well done. As someone else commented, I thought I was flying it myself, brilliant, you must be so happy. Thanks from Rome✌️🇬🇧
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Yes I'm very happy with progress to this point. It makes you realize how much there is to it, my machine I think is comparatively simple to fly compared with a standard configuration yet It's still hard to learn in my opinion. If I had collective pitch/throttle to manage and then the additional power management of a tail rotor I wouldn't be this far along. In that sense it's a good learning machine. Although I feel things have come a long way I also think there is a long way to go. Travelling forward, sideways, backwards then pedal turns are going to take significant practice I expect, then flying in wind is another. I tried hovering in a very light tail wind and couldn't do it, the helicopter was all over the place. certainly an eye opener.
@okgo8315
@okgo8315 Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-Dixey .....Yes you're right you have come sooo far but still a long way to go. This is a great step and it's been so enjoyable to follow, thankyou once again ✌️🇬🇧
@thisisus.504
@thisisus.504 Жыл бұрын
The Dixie Condor. You're welcome.
@andersstenlund6699
@andersstenlund6699 Жыл бұрын
I myself am a trained aviation mechanic and think you do an excellent job. I would prefer to try to lower the center of gravity as much as possible. I've heard from helicopter pilots that it's easier to fly larger helicopters, they're not as sensitive in control because of their greater weight. When you can control hovering you learnd the most importent and you can go higher. You are a little genius, keep up the good work and be carefull!
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Hi and thanks for the kind comment. I think you could be right about lowering the CG, I was told that the reason Robinson's have such a high rotor was to improve the stability of hovering.
@andersstenlund6699
@andersstenlund6699 Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-Dixey I sometimes wondered about Robinson's high rotor mount and that R-44 are often used for pilot training, so there may be something to study.
@chippyjohn1
@chippyjohn1 Жыл бұрын
Good to see you having fun, well done. I'd recommend a vertical line in the gun sight for better target acquisition, hehe.
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Yes. Little Nellie is something to aim for I think. 😀
@chippyjohn1
@chippyjohn1 Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-Dixey Had to look it up, the gyrocopter from James Bond. That opened my eyes as a kid. Good work again, stay safe.
@mitubachiflight
@mitubachiflight Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed it as if I was piloting it myself!
@okgo8315
@okgo8315 Жыл бұрын
Great comment, me too👍👍👍🇬🇧
@artmckay6704
@artmckay6704 Жыл бұрын
Never give up! Wow, what an accomplishment! Living the dream! :)
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Thank you ☺️
@artmckay6704
@artmckay6704 Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-Dixey :)
@joellaroche6304
@joellaroche6304 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see your piloting skills and confidence level is progressing. Now lose the tethers and fly away! But seriously, regarding your cooling system; since outboard engines usually have an endless (nearly chilled) source of water/coolant to draw from, designing a close loop system to compete will be challenging. A much larger coolant volume with a larger capacity radiator will add significant weight... Recirc pump capacity is also a key element in this system. On another note, regrading asymmetry of lift in forward flight; an underslung teetering rotor head on a single main rotor set-up with collective (and cyclic) pitch control (in forward flight) will allow the advancing blade to tilt up but the pitch link will reduce its angle of attach reducing lift while the opposite will occur on the retreating blade... thus equalizing lift on rotor disc. A coaxial design often uses blade flapping hinges to deal with asymmetric lift in forward flight. I'm curious to see how your underslung teetering design performs in forward flight. JLR
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Great comment, yes I don't want to add weight but may have to with the cooling system, will see what happens. I can understand how cyclic pitch controls asymmetry of lift, I am also interested to see what happens. The BO105 fixed rotor head would be using only cyclic to control asymmetric lift ? Gyrocopters would be more like mine ? There have been other examples of my configuration. Nolan pendulum Helicopter and airscooter2 both have demonstration youtube videos.
@joellaroche6304
@joellaroche6304 Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-Dixey In your latest video, you adjusted blade pitch up by 0.1 degree to get more lift; how did you originally determine the differential pitch settings between upper and lower rotors ? experimentation ? Are you still running 0.7 degree pitch differential to balance rotor torque ? JLR
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
I'm running a 1 degree pitch differential now which seems about right and yes it was just experimentation. I did read about a similar coaxial rotor system that also determined 1 degree to be balanced at a rotor spacing of 10% rotor diameter. They tried a 15% rotor spacing but that was less efficient interestingly.
@Miata822
@Miata822 Жыл бұрын
I just now posted a comment about cooling on the previous video. Good flight today. You looked very much in control.
@madcarew5168
@madcarew5168 Жыл бұрын
Getting there!!
@Drummer2020
@Drummer2020 Жыл бұрын
You can see from the video that when you input rudder pedals as well as the side momentum you want it also add a tail down movement as a consequence, so you may not be 'tail heavy' as thought, just rotor thrust pushing down on the rudders.
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
I think you are right on this, maybe it will end up being an oddity of the design.
@user-oe5yk3qf5y
@user-oe5yk3qf5y Жыл бұрын
I commend you for your enthusiasm. Above all else, safety comes first. Practice piloting slowly, step by step. 1. Make sure the harboring is complete. 2. Practice turning in the harbor state before the harbor taxi. 3. And master the harbor taxi. Do not climb more than 50 feet without fully mastering this. proud of you
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your advice, much appreciated. On your channel Is that you flying the sch2a ? Ch7 ?
@user-oe5yk3qf5y
@user-oe5yk3qf5y Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-Dixey Yes. I am an instructor pilot and school principal training helicopter pilots in Korea.
@user-oe5yk3qf5y
@user-oe5yk3qf5y Жыл бұрын
And now I am also preparing to build a helicopter.
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Very nice 👌 what type of helicopter are you planning to build ? Do you like the sch2a ?
@user-oe5yk3qf5y
@user-oe5yk3qf5y Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-Dixey The helicopter I am planning is a general helicopter, but I am thinking of the r44 class. Another one is the coaxial reversal of the type you are making, which is also planned for 4-6 people. Of course, before that, I would like to prototype a lightweight helicopter. If there is an opportunity, I would like to provide your know-how. By the way, which country do you live in?
@amrinwello6620
@amrinwello6620 Жыл бұрын
Good job👍👍👍👍
@bruceyoung1343
@bruceyoung1343 Жыл бұрын
So happy to see the progress you are making. I’m sure the higher (2-3 meters) air would be smooth. Then the fun starts. Good luck
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
cheers Bruce 👍👍
@Chris-bg8mk
@Chris-bg8mk Жыл бұрын
Glad to see you are still at it! From a safety perspective I’d love to see a few more unmanned tests, with zero or slightly negative pitch, go to 110 or 120% Nr, and ensure nothing breaks. Then limit the Nr to 102% or so manned.
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Great suggestion but I've actually already done this, when the gearing was 5.6:1 I took the blades up to 1000RPM which is 128% of what it's running at now. This wasn't part of my plan as far as safety was concerned i just got the gearing wrong but a happy mistake all things considered.
@forrestking
@forrestking Жыл бұрын
This is awesome, experimental aviation at its best! Keep up the good work.
@robertmatch6550
@robertmatch6550 Жыл бұрын
Very impressive home-made adventure! Stay safe, it all looks quite impressive! 1) How much horsepower is at your command? 2) What sort of calculations give you your rotor sizing? Success and solid limbs!
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Hi and thanks, the engine produces 60hp and I'm using nearly all the throttle to hover. I didn't get very far using the lift formulae but instead copied a similar machines specs on rotor sizing, the Nolan coaxial.
@OneManOperation
@OneManOperation Жыл бұрын
Simply fantastik 👌
@typhoon2827
@typhoon2827 Жыл бұрын
Next week on DIY chopper, we'll be looking at underslung loads as our hero moves his massive kahunas around the paddock.
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
😆
@TheIronHeadRat
@TheIronHeadRat Жыл бұрын
Keeps getting better and better, stay safe 👍👍
@DetroitMicroSound
@DetroitMicroSound Жыл бұрын
For some reason, large electric drone motor, driven off the engine comes to mind, for direction.
@nagjrcjasonbower
@nagjrcjasonbower Жыл бұрын
Looking like a million bucks! Some airspeed should get you out of the ground effect hover (only when you decide to try!!!). Wish I had half of your talent!
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Bless you sir, I might try hovering in a slight head wind and see what happens it will do the same as flying forward and increase lift. I think i was wrong about wind causing instability it was just turbulent air at low altitude.
@jimwolfe2862
@jimwolfe2862 Жыл бұрын
Well done mate
@kimkeam2094
@kimkeam2094 Жыл бұрын
What a great success! Thanks for letting us watch your video. To answer the last question you asked the foam balls weigh 250 grams including cable ties etc to secure them. If you find time, the exhaust from an outboard is water cooled. How did you set it up? A video of that would be very interesting. In regards to the radiator, is that getting any of the downwash to assist your fan cooling? Perhaps relocation if practical may help. Otherwise making a aluminium duct on the rear of the radiator, which reduces down to shroud the fan, and will greatly increase your cooling effect without enlarging the radiator. Also add “MOCOOL” to your coolant to transfer more heat from the engine. It works well!
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Great suggestions Kim. I will look for the foam balls as 250g is acceptable. I wasn't aware the exhaust on an outboard was water cooled wondering why it needed to be ? I thought the waste coolant was just expelled through the exhaust chamber for convenience? I am investigating the cooling situation now and will put details in the next video, currently the coolant and exhaust ports are really close and i think the port is heating the coolant. Also the size of the waterways are very small going in and out of the engine probably to prevent over cooling from the cold sea water. The radiator isn't getting any of the downwash, it's of course possible to mount it further out but will cause significant work altering the CG as that's a lot of weight far back plus will cause some negative lift catching the downdraught. The shroud I will definitely do as it will certainly improve cooling and I've been told about a better type of fan. I knew it wouldn't be easy getting an outboard to keep cool but I'm sure it's possible.
@rct2
@rct2 Жыл бұрын
As for cooling either a bigger rad or move the one you got more into the prop downwash.
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Hoping to avoid a bigger rad but that might be the correct solution. There's other things to find out before that decision. Fixing problems without adding weight is the challenge. Moving the rad further into the rotor wash will make the tail much heavier and require moving the pilot forward to counteract, also the rotor wash will increase the problem by pushing down on the tail via the radiator. It also causes negative lift. Not saying it's not the right decision but it's not as simple as you might imagine.
@MachineDS
@MachineDS Жыл бұрын
That's awesome man, thanks
@stevecarter9027
@stevecarter9027 Жыл бұрын
Would love to know the temperature drop across the rad. Once you know that, you are in a better position to understand if you need more rad, or more coolant flow.
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Great suggestion, yes I did think of getting one of those infrared thermometers if they are accurate that is.
@stevecarter9027
@stevecarter9027 Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-Dixey their accuracy depends on a few things, but as a relative measurement, they are completely reliable, so just point at similar surfaces on the in and out, and you will have good information. 30 degrees F is about the most you should see, so more drop than that means too little coolant flow. Much less than that could be either too little rad, or not enough fan.
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
@@stevecarter9027 perfect, will get one. thanks
@leifericson2061
@leifericson2061 Жыл бұрын
Verry nice
@earlwilson6153
@earlwilson6153 Жыл бұрын
Co axial remote control helicopters, can help u understand stabilty better, my experience with rc helicopters is wind doesn't effect them much at all, but rc fixed wing is affected very much, oh ya rc heli takes more power to hover than fly forward, moving into clean air, u get out of the down draft well heli blades create
@nzmeateater
@nzmeateater Жыл бұрын
Ahh part 7, thanks for reply on other vid,I hope that shaft size does not turn out to be an issue, I was thinking of stresses on it during forward flight due to vibration , time will tell I sappose. good luck.
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Yes, it's all a bit of an unknown as you don't know how long parts are going to last. Any part could break at any minute and there's only so much checking you can do. If the parts are designed correctly then all is good but there's always a risk with an unproven machine.
@nzmeateater
@nzmeateater Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-Dixey Yea I quess the best you can do is just scale down from proven designs and see how it goes.
@leosbagoftricks3732
@leosbagoftricks3732 Жыл бұрын
This so crazy amazing, like doing a heart operation on yourself with a mirror and surviving!
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
I like the analogy 😆
@leosbagoftricks3732
@leosbagoftricks3732 Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-Dixey Haha Me too- do it all the time!
@locodefra
@locodefra Жыл бұрын
Buen día.. felicidades.yo preparando todo para comenzar un proyecto. Lo que más me detiene es como hacer las palas principales, y también si hacerlo con rotor de cola o con rotores contratantes, veo que tú tienes todavía dónde ahorrar peso y también mejorar el centro de gravedad.
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
The blades are the most difficult part in my opinion and I would start with building those. Whether you build coaxial or standard is up to you but if you go standard there are plans available to follow. A design of rotor blade construction I like is from composite fx who make the Mosquito helicopter. There are videos on youtube of the process.
@gsoficina75
@gsoficina75 Жыл бұрын
👏👏👏👏👏
@Maverickib
@Maverickib Жыл бұрын
Have you added a throttle correlator yet? It's a simple linkage that connects the collective to the throttle, so raising the former also opens the latter a bit. Seems like when you pull a bit to get more altitude, the aircraft does it but then sinks back down, possibly because you're not rolling on the throttle as you ask for more power and instead are doing it after asking for more power, after that sink back down already begins. There's a lot to think about in a hover, so a correlator function might help free up some brain bandwidth.
@helicopterdriver
@helicopterdriver Жыл бұрын
There is no collective. It's a fixed pitch system that relies on rotor speed not collective. :D
@Maverickib
@Maverickib Жыл бұрын
@@helicopterdriver Ohhh, okay. Makes sense then.
@airgunningyup
@airgunningyup Жыл бұрын
incredible seeing Einsteins relativity at work/ From my observation point , the progress has been overnight, from yours its been a grueling 5 yrs lol. keep it up mate
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the support Rob 😊😊
@Sorarse
@Sorarse Жыл бұрын
I didn't realise this was fixed pitch. I assume that means there is no option of autorotate in the event of an engine failure?
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Yes that's correct. It's only for Low hovering low forward speeds in this configuration.
@thomasallen4340
@thomasallen4340 Жыл бұрын
Imagine how the wright brothers felt respect
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Oh yes indeed, the wright bothers must have been the proudest, happiest people on earth at that time.
@donaldschumann2521
@donaldschumann2521 Жыл бұрын
More height will not make it easier to hover a helicopter, these aerodynamic principals are called IGE(In ground Effect) and OGE(Out of ground effect), it takes more power to hover OGE than IGE due to the increased blade tip vortices(OGE is about 1 1/4 rotor diameter in height). While hovering IGE the rotor tip vortices are pushed away from the helicopter outwards by the ground, OGE the vortices recirculate at the tips of the blades and grow larger inward towards the hub causing less lift component on the blades.
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
I agree it's harder for the helicopter to fly OGE as it's working harder but I believe it's easier for the pilot hovering in smoother air.
@donaldschumann2521
@donaldschumann2521 Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-Dixey actually this isn’t true, you lose reference points to hold a stable hover. Closer to the ground will always be easier to hover, if it’s rough at a 4 foot hover because of winds it will absolutely be worse at a 50 foot hover. I promise you this as I am a 3100 hour commercial instrument rated helicopter pilot
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info, I can understand how 4ft and upwards might be similar or get worse like you have said. What about 0-4ft ?
@planesnstuff9575
@planesnstuff9575 Жыл бұрын
He literally built his own coaxial helicopter, i think he knows what ground effect is
@neriksen
@neriksen Жыл бұрын
Have you considered utilising the technology that’s available to the RC world with gyro stability and Gps combined. When you consider how much hard work and time you’ve put into this beautiful project any help to create stability would be an advantage don’t you agree.
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Hi, it wasn't really considered because I wanted to learn the skill of hovering as well as enjoy the building. I'm sure I could add some sort of flight controller but for me it will take away half the objective. You won't find any electronics on an R22 for example and it's not needed, a bit like how it's not needed to ride a bicycle. Once the skill is acquired hovering a helicopter is as easy as riding a bicycle apparently. Sure it's a hard skill to learn but potentially all the more satisfying.
@neriksen
@neriksen Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-Dixey Thanks for the reply.. I have to agree with your comment about trying to get the feel for it as once you do you’ll be flying with your fingertips. Interestingly enough It’s my understanding that the rotor head on a R 22 is slightly different to most other helicopters which I also understand is the main reason for the excessive rotor bump and boom decapitation. In any case we could hypothesise on what is good what isn’t good etc etc at the end of the day what you have done is magnificent I commend you on your diligence to see this project through. I look forward to your future endeavours. 🙋🏻‍♂️cheers from Downunder where anything that moves will try and kill you.
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words. 😊 The R22 tri hinge rotor head is certainly something of concern. I like the fact that each blade can fly to it's natural coning angle without any stress at the root but in combination with a teeter hinge has caused many accidents when the rotor gets unloaded. I really like the Cabri G2 rotor head, 3 blades gives a smoother ride and better autorotation, the down side is more expense and the potential for ground resonance. The BO105 rotor head I would say is the ultimate. Ha, I have watched many programmes about Australia where the things that move will try and kill you, they mentioned about some plant that can also kill you if you touch it. I thought even the plants kill you !! 😆 Would love to have the space that Australia has and watching the farmers heard animals with their R22's throwing them around the sky like a model is amazing, just keep that rotor loaded up!
@Stambo59
@Stambo59 Жыл бұрын
I fly RC helicopters. In the RC world, hovering a helicopter is said to be like balancing a marble on a sheet of glass. It's easier to fly it than to hover, I don't know if this translates to the real world, just an observation.
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Yes it does translate, I've had an experience in an R22 and in forward flight it's very easy in comparison. People have suggested flying forward to help but I think mastering the hover must come first. These are still very early stages of flight control and pilot work load is very high, any additional circumstances will cause an increased loss of control. It will get easier with time and then the fun can begin.
@markrix
@markrix Жыл бұрын
Butterfly?? I think you need some attention to engine. Lack of power and overheating may be your mixture. EGT and narrowband or wideband o2 sensor may help.. or just give the carbs some love. How do the plugs look?
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I've been keeping an eye on the plugs and according to an online air/fuel chart they seem to be in the ok range, perhaps closer to the hot side though. I'm running 40:1 oil mixture. An EGT sensor would be a good idea I think. I've designed and made tuned exhausts which has helped the power a lot but haven't changed anything on the induction side. I need to check the butterflies make sure they aren't going over 90 degrees and the timing isn't over advancing though I'm have already carefully set this up so don't think it will be this.
@randall1959
@randall1959 Жыл бұрын
Once you get out of ground effect it will smooth out
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
I think that's correct 👍
@EDcase1
@EDcase1 Жыл бұрын
Great work! Sorry if you covered this in a previous video but what are the legal requirements for you to fly? I presume it will have to pass an airworthiness inspection and you'll have to complete a PPL?
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Hi. I don't know what the rules are but the machine is tethered which may or may not make a difference. It would never pass any airworthiness requirements but the point of the machine was to hover around a field only. Just a toy for learning how to hover.
@EDcase1
@EDcase1 Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-Dixey Ah I see. Pity, as its so close to being able to do short flights.
@peterxyz3541
@peterxyz3541 Жыл бұрын
Huge respect!!! I just buy a mosquito or one of those micro LSA helicopters
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
The mosquito is an excellent helicopter in my opinion. They seem very stable.
@jayasuriyaa4976
@jayasuriyaa4976 Жыл бұрын
marvelous
@wizrom3046
@wizrom3046 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic project! It is very enjoyable watching your progress. My input would be to start shopping for a new motor. I think you will need about double that horsepower to get proper flight, especially with the costs of forward flight which can easily cost you 40% of your lift power. Also you need a power surplus to ascend at any decent rate. Hopefully you can get an engine with a lot more power and similar weight, maybe consider a 2 stroke or a turbo 4 atroke.
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊 I believe the power required in forward flight is less than in a hover as transitional lift occurs.
@wizrom3046
@wizrom3046 Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-Dixey ... I'm not an expert on that, just an electronics guy that designs machinery. 🙂 But at low speeds when a traditional helicopter tilts forward to start moving forward, you can see an initial drop in altitude so I assumed a drop in lift. Makes sense since some of the downwash is now going backwards instead of straight down. But I have no idea what happens at higher forward speeds.
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
I can understand your reasoning, I'm no expert either but here is how I understand it. In a hover there is air going down through the rotor so to keep hovering it can be likened to climbing an escalator which is going downwards. When in forward flight the escalator is then switch off and it's easier to climb as the air hit by the rotor is still. The extra energy that was needed in the hover is now causing you to climb unless you reduce power.
@wizrom3046
@wizrom3046 Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-Dixey thank you for explaining. 🙂
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Your welcome. I watched a video on helicopter power checking, in the video a helicopter came into land which was in the mountains, came slowly into a hover over a lake. The helicopter started spinning in circles and descended into the lake. They didn't perform an altitude power check, the helicopter had the power at that altitude in forward flight but not enough to hover. The blades were then over pitched as the pilot tried to gain altitude, the tail rotor couldn't keep up with the increased torque and so started to spin. There was no recovery at this point it was going down.
@marcosventurapro
@marcosventurapro Жыл бұрын
👏👏👏👍👍👍
@jan-albertheymans5690
@jan-albertheymans5690 Жыл бұрын
Hi BTD1982, just started to watch your videos. Well done. Just curious, did you build from plans or from experience? Could you share a link or site where one can find it? Thank you
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Hello. It is my own creation but inspired by the Nolan coaxial and bensen B9. I had general engineering experience but nothing in aviation. The internet these days is a great information resource and can provide a decent amount of data, not all of it is there directly but it put me in touch with the people that do know. You can by plans for standard configuration helicopters from vortech and the redback aviation website is great.
@kamelfeizi
@kamelfeizi Жыл бұрын
God job.please tell me How did you make the main blades?
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
I've done a few videos of making the blades on my channel hope they help.
@Madsstuff
@Madsstuff Жыл бұрын
why are you using throttle as a collective and not using a cyclic based collective? Looks to me, you might not have enough lift to get out of ground effect.
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Hi, it was done this way for simplicity and lighter weight but I know there are drawbacks to this and I hope to find them all out. I haven't tried full throttle since the pitch change but I hope to get out of ground effect, there are 6kg of extended learning poles which will be coming off at some point this might be enough in itself but there's also other additional weight that can be removed.
@Madsstuff
@Madsstuff Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-Dixey exciting times. Looking forward to seeing the rest of your progress
@AA-69
@AA-69 Жыл бұрын
"WE CAN GO FLYING" 🤣😂🤣😂🤣 Just get a cherry picker... Please 🤣😂🤣
@av8tor261
@av8tor261 Жыл бұрын
Looking good. I think your getting out of "ground effect" due to limited power/lift and that is limiting. Be safe.
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
yep, I think the machine will be capable in time but probably not at the moment. cheers
@jimmydesouza4375
@jimmydesouza4375 Жыл бұрын
Nah, he should be well within ground effect still. Ground effect is ~2 rotordisks off of the ground.
@av8tor261
@av8tor261 Жыл бұрын
@@jimmydesouza4375 That's what I'm saying. He is still within ground effect. That all changes through transitional flight though.
@brianwest3477
@brianwest3477 Жыл бұрын
You are doing great, congratulations. My observation of watching the hover is that your centre of gravity is still too far aft and you keep strugling to correct that , might be worth trying a little more nose weight.
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
I thought the same, but the ground does slope away slightly. I still think it's aft heavy and I will try more nose weight.
@leemnav
@leemnav Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-Dixey Could be that when correcting yaw , those vanes will push the tail somewhat down. It's a large combined area which catches high speed rotorwash and are mounted on a relative long leverage arm. Perhaps a test with smaller area , cheap 3 mm plywood vanes would reveal if this influences the tail heavy feeling when they deflect the rotorwash. It seemed to me that the tail is somewhat "dancing" up and down. No matter what , you're getting there , that's obvious !! Well done !!
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
I think you could be right leemnav, definitely something to investigate. 👍
@jonbaker326
@jonbaker326 Жыл бұрын
V/good.
@rct2
@rct2 Жыл бұрын
Is it me or does it look like the cg is too far back?
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
The ground does slope away but it could well be flying tail heavy.
@TinyHouseHomestead
@TinyHouseHomestead Жыл бұрын
Have you thought about adding computer stabilization, or do you wanna keep it manuel? 😁👍✌️🇺🇸
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Part of the allure was learning how to fly for me and computerized flight stabilization hasn't been widely adopted commercially for a reason. It's something that could be installed for sure though and it would be an interesting experiment. The Jetson 1 looks a lot of fun with minimal skill it would seem.
@TinyHouseHomestead
@TinyHouseHomestead Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-Dixey 👍👍 I agree 100%, although as someone who designs and builds AI, I can tell you that CSFC is the future, as with "atomization" of everything, the only rub is the loss of jobs, but those who learn to "manage" the robots who replace them will survive, or most will continue to live in the dark ages, which is cool! 😁👍🇺🇸 A coaxial copter is a multi-rotor! 🤪😁👍🇺🇸
@TinyHouseHomestead
@TinyHouseHomestead Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-Dixey the "ideal" vehicle right now is a hybrid flight stabilized multi-rotor! Just imagine having a little multi-rotor that had a small gas engine running a generator powering the electric motors, with a battery backup for emergency landings, with a 3 hour flight time, and 30 minute reserve, that is 3 mode capable, full GPS auto, flight stabilized, or full acro! Imagine the "allure" if that was released to the public, .... or the CHAOS! 🤪🤣👍✌️🇺🇸 "I live with AI, but I could survive without it"! - Terry W. Wheelock PdD.
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Interesting, the flight time of battery power seems to be the big draw back. Gas gives a lot of power for the weight when compared to battery's. If the Jetson had a 3hr flight duration it would be a game changer. wouldn't your suggestion of motors, battery's an engine and fuel be too heavy though?
@TinyHouseHomestead
@TinyHouseHomestead Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-Dixey nope, the weight is actually less, because we just substituted the weight of batteries with the hybrid, it's a wash, but with the gain of hours of flight time! We will see if it changes the "game", but as you know those who would be relegated to the stoneage, their resistance to the future is ruthless! 🤪👍✌️🇺🇸
@stefanmargraf7878
@stefanmargraf7878 Жыл бұрын
Weight distribution: seems to me to much aft.
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Yes, it's something to investigate 👍
@user-xk3hz3ke2h
@user-xk3hz3ke2h Жыл бұрын
Добрый день! Вы большой молодец! Подскажите, как осуществляется путевое управление?
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Thank you. The directional control is pretty good, not as sensitive as the R22 but similar, yaw control via the tail fins is ok too.
@user-xk3hz3ke2h
@user-xk3hz3ke2h Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-Dixey благодарю.
@doskraut
@doskraut Жыл бұрын
This might sound stupid but get a collective pitch RC Helicopter like the Blade Nano and practice to fly it. could spend a lot of time with it. Flying a Helicopter is like riding a bike while juggling balls. It takes practice and little hand, feet movement. I'm happy how well your doing though
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
👍 I've got a blade 400 and it has certainly helped.
@doskraut
@doskraut Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-Dixey Your way ahead of me then, I have a Blade 400 and do acrobatic flight. One day I would like to own a real heli.
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Well I can only hover my blade 400, tried going inverted once and crashed. It takes some serious skill and practise to do any acrobatic stuff. I doubt I would ever have the skill to do that stuff.
@doskraut
@doskraut Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-Dixey It took me a year but I did it, I think I have a vid of me and a 130 inside my home.
@mrkhokhar4895
@mrkhokhar4895 Жыл бұрын
I think now need minor settings trimmings, ready to fly
@daniellucasmedranopedraza5437
@daniellucasmedranopedraza5437 Жыл бұрын
amigo una pregunta.. y volo? llego a volar?
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Hi. I don't understand the question. Sorry.
@daniellucasmedranopedraza5437
@daniellucasmedranopedraza5437 Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-Dixey te preguntaba si lograstes volar? good video.
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
👍 I'm teaching myself to fly the machine. I've had one hour of dual instruction in an R22 so far. I might do more but it is expensive and a bit of a drive to the airport.
@daniellucasmedranopedraza5437
@daniellucasmedranopedraza5437 Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-Dixey que bien te felicito .. sige adelante ... un apraso desde peru. grasias por tus videos.
@90s_sascha
@90s_sascha Жыл бұрын
I need on for the daily drive to the work
@thecrow3380
@thecrow3380 Жыл бұрын
Imagine how much time and money you could have saved by using a cheap step ladder.
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
£1000s
@thecrow3380
@thecrow3380 Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-Dixey :) What you're doing is admirable, but my sense of humor demands I point out the bleatin' obvious!
@halamkajohn
@halamkajohn Жыл бұрын
plywood cover
@Thinkflite
@Thinkflite Жыл бұрын
Your doing this in the UK? Without a permit or CAA registration... You know breaching the ANO like this can land you in serious trouble... I love what you have done but please be careful
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Hi. I'd like to think I have taken a very careful approach. The machine is tethered at all times. Perhaps like the towing of a gyro kite down a runway which doesn't need certification or a licence.
@Thinkflite
@Thinkflite Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-Dixey Unfortunately in the UK, any powered rotorcraft needs to be registered...even if tethered.
@Thinkflite
@Thinkflite Жыл бұрын
Don't worry, I'm not going to report 😂 I'm a fan of stuff like this, just be careful because the charge is no joke.
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info, I can understand the risk I'm taking and I'm not exactly keeping it quiet by having a youtube channel. I haven't found the required information on the subject from the CAA. From a personal perspective I can only see risk to myself if it's tethered. The machine can't even get out of ground effect from a hover. It might be able to with transitional lift however. It's not a serious helicopter in my opinion, just a toy and if I lived where the FAA governed the skies it would fine if under 115kg. I completely understand why you have brought it to my attention.
@Thinkflite
@Thinkflite Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-Dixey Sub 115kg applies to the UK also as an SSDR though still requires a license and doesn't apply to rotorcraft. Best wishes with it all anyhow 🙂
@SystemsPlanet
@SystemsPlanet Жыл бұрын
Nice to get up above the ground effects. Look forward to you dropping by for a spot of tea.
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Love a cup of tea. 👍😊 it's got to be engine heated though!
@nickaxe771
@nickaxe771 Жыл бұрын
What sort of RPM is the motor making.....I flew a 2 stroke microlight for years.....prop needed to be set in pitch to achieve a certain RPM.....finer pitch=more RPM. My motor was a 50hp Rotax 503 needed to hit 6250 rpm static on the ground RPM.....would hit 6500rpm in flight. 2 fine a pitch lets the motor over rev....and leads to a weak petrol air mix.....very bad in a 2 stroke.....overheating as the motor is loosing the piston cooling from the richer petrol mix it needs. Always run a tad on the rich side with a 2 stroke.
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Hi. The engine runs at 5500 RPM and I agree about the rich running being preferable. 👍
@earlwilson6153
@earlwilson6153 Жыл бұрын
Kamov ka 26 Russian s r experts at counter rotating choppers
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Yes, love the Ka26 a lot of development has gone into the Kamov's
@markrix
@markrix Жыл бұрын
this guy (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p7uTrZSKtL61loU.html) avery flies? Anyway he bought a cheap para motor and changing the exhaust made a huge difference in his engine output, if i remember correctly it was almost 20% increase
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Hi and thanks for the link I'll watch the video. I've actually already built twin expansion chambers designed from information on another channel called the Aumechanic. It made the difference between not lifting off and hovering. There is still more pitch I can add to the blades for more lift hopefully. I'm expecting a mtow of 300kg and I'm around 250kg at the moment.
@raylawrence1
@raylawrence1 Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on a magnificent achievement so far. Only one who has been through this process of design, build and fly a home made chopper can understand how well you have done. May I suggest you have some misconception about wind affecting these early flight tests. Ten knots of breeze will give you directional stability and some translational lift and Lift is the thing you need at the moment. Some wind might well remove the disturbing turbulence you are experiencing due to the recirculation I observe your degree of control is sensitive and relaxed. The comment mentioned by others about resting the forearm on the thigh does make for more sensitive control. I am impressed by the apparent effectiveness of the 'cyclic'. The control forces look to be relatively light and the control movements well balanced considering the mass of the total rotor system, Not an easy problem to design for and you have achieved an impressive solution. One last comment and I would hesitate of offer censure but I think I see your 'collective' (i.e. throttle) control to be arranged as in a fixed wing machine. Push/pull, when all helos use pull up and down of the left hand lever, The arrangement you appear to use is counter intuitive and unnatural in use. No doubt you have become used to this oddity but, if I am right I feel it might suit better to have a more conventional arrangement. Your piloting skills are sound now and the reduction in weight you need for better performance will be helped by the removal of those anti-roll tubes. There is also some negative lift there via the downwash. I an truly thrilled by your project and wish you safe flying as you continue to explore your creation,
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
Thanks again Ray for your super comment and support, Yes I was confusing turbulent air as wind gusts but I'm beginning to understand it better now. I didn't know things might actually get smoother with a constant head wind. I have changed the throttle to conventional pull up to go up now and it's much more sensible. I'm looking forward to the R22 experience I've got coming up, it will be interesting to compare the two machines. I'm expecting the cyclic to feel very similar but we will see.
@possiblyadickhead6653
@possiblyadickhead6653 Жыл бұрын
so fucking cool
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
I love your user name. 😆
@EnglishTurbines
@EnglishTurbines Жыл бұрын
I know you don't like wind, but hovering nose into wind will give translational lift. Rather like forward flight, it will reduce ground effect turbulence and actually give you a bit more lift. I'm surprised the engine is flat out just to hover. In a situation you are relying on rotor speed acceleration as this thing has no collective pitch, not a good situation I'm afraid ..🤔😳😳🇬🇧
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
I'm beginning to understand more about the effect of wind and will try in a light head wind next time. I'm sure you are correct about it. After adjusting the pitch of the blades I'm no longer at full throttle. Not sure how much there is to spare currently but it should be possible to lift 300 kg with my engine, the take off weight is around 240kg. Optimising blade pitch and speed should see plenty of reserve lift in the end. I also have the option of reducing air frame weight which also isn't optimised. This machines purpose is only going to be for hovering at a few feet, although I would like to prove it has the performance to get out of ground effect.
@EnglishTurbines
@EnglishTurbines Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-Dixey If it was me, I'd increase main blade pitch by at least 2 degrees. You may be surprised it will hover at less than flat out engine speed. You have to have some throttle in reserve whilst in the hover. My biggest concern is that this Heli has no collective pitch, which means lifting response is going to be very slow. Also, if you ever get into forward flight and translational lift, you may find getting it down again difficult unless you reduce engine speed until it's uncomfortably slow. This means cyclic will become sluggish...🤔😳
@Ben-Dixey
@Ben-Dixey Жыл бұрын
I believe the maximum lift for naca 0012 blade is 7 degrees, the bottom rotor running in the downwash is currently at 6.5 degrees while the top Rotor is at 5.5 degrees. Not sure if the bottom rotor running in the downwash maximum lift pitch angle can be increased beyond 7 degrees and still produce more lift. It will be interesting to find out. At this moment in time just trying to hold a hover, more lift isn't my priority. The response to lift being fixed pitch was a concern which is why I made the blades very light, they speed up faster than I was expecting but slow down a little slower than I was expecting. Yes this is all of concern in other flight modes but has already been well tested with the Nolan Coaxial. They did have two engines which would have helped with speeding up the blades, mine only having one might be different. I don't think this is going to be a speed machine throwing it about the sky like you see with a mosquito, but who knows, it's brought a lot of surprises so far.
@EnglishTurbines
@EnglishTurbines Жыл бұрын
@@Ben-Dixey Well, I'm guessing that if you get into forward flight at some point, translational lift will definitely enable you to fly along on considerably less than hover throttle setting. If you do start hovering at say 15 feet altitude, you may find less throttle is required anyway. Ground effect is where air circulates down and then back up through the rotors again, an undesirable situation, but a noticeable improvement as you fly clear of it...So, keep trying...🤔😳😏🇬🇧
@andersstenlund6699
@andersstenlund6699 Жыл бұрын
How not to do it: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Zs6PltSFqLqZl2Q.html
@mrkhokhar4895
@mrkhokhar4895 Жыл бұрын
I think your heli is much stable now you may remover trainer supports
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