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Part One: Kim Jong Un and His Family of Dictators | BEHIND THE BASTARDS
In Episode 70, Robert is joined by Eli Olsberg to discuss The Kims of North Korea.
Original Air Date: July 2, 2019
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There’s a reason the History Channel has produced hundreds of documentaries about Hitler but only a few about Dwight D. Eisenhower. Bad guys (and gals) are eternally fascinating. Behind the Bastards dives in past the Cliffs Notes of the worst humans in history and exposes the bizarre realities of their lives. Listeners will learn about the young adult novels that helped Hitler form his monstrous ideology, the founder of Blackwater’s insane quest to build his own Air Force, the bizarre lives of the sons and daughters of dictators and Saddam Hussein’s side career as a trashy romance novelist.
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@whackedoutpoobrain
@whackedoutpoobrain 10 ай бұрын
Juche is pronounced JOO-che, not joosh, which is unfortunate because joosh is hilarious.
@rbarghouti
@rbarghouti 5 ай бұрын
This was driving me crazy. You can't suffix a syllable with the "sh" phoneme in Korean.
@delusionnnnn
@delusionnnnn 2 ай бұрын
Why we have silent letters in English, along with why the Great Vowel Shift happened, is fascinating research. And it's also why English-speakers pronounce so many foreign words incorrectly. With some notable exceptions such as French, it's usually safe to presume if there's a letter in a foreign word, it's there to be pronounced. Particularly if it's been given an English orthography recently. Korean had a widespread English transliterations from the early 40s, and was significantly revised with an update in 2000 for South Korea.
@michaelrichter9427
@michaelrichter9427 9 ай бұрын
> Juche (English: /ˈdʒuːtʃeɪ/ (listen), JOO-chay; Korean: [tɕutɕʰe] (listen)) It doesn't rhyme with douche. Though it should.
@jonwesick2844
@jonwesick2844 9 ай бұрын
Correction. There is a North Korean movie from when Kim Jong-il kidnapped a director and actress. It's called Pulgasari and is a North Korean version of Godzilla. I watched it online. It's not bad.
@Saliferous
@Saliferous 2 ай бұрын
You can read the book "a kim jung il production" about that incident. It's WILD
@TheDarthbinky
@TheDarthbinky 9 ай бұрын
North Korea actually has (or had) a film industry. We know this because there were a few Americans (usually disillusioned soldiers guarding the DMZ) who defected to the North in the years after the war... and some of these Americans became actors. One of the Americans fully embraced North Korean communism, and became rather famous for playing the ruthless, scheming American villain in these North Korean movies. But I think these Americans have all died by now (one of them famously came back to the US a few years back and was ceremonially dishonorably discharged from the US Army when he was in his 90s or something like that, I don't remember the details), so I don't know what the current status of their film industry is. Also, another issue with info coming out from the North is the defectors. There's a handful of defectors who've fallen in with rabidly anti-communist right-wing groups in South Korea/the US and tend to tell stories about North Korea that totally coincidentally align perfectly with these groups' narrative. That's not to excuse the abuses of the North Korean regime... but usually when you see a program/documentary discussing North Korea, it's the same 2-3 people whose stories are always pretty wild. Like that story about the Kims eating specially harvested rice... how would anyone know? Especially considering, as mentioned later in the podcast, that most North Koreans weren't even aware of the existence of the Kim family (aside from Jong Il). (EDIT - ok the second ep gets into this misinformation.)
@addie1080
@addie1080 Жыл бұрын
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@jacquirimown3886
@jacquirimown3886 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting podcasts, looking forward to listening to more now that I have discovered your channel.
@JackRabbit9181996
@JackRabbit9181996 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love this podcast, it's criminally underrated. Its funny, interesting and chock full of information! Thanks for making such a great show!
@fives.
@fives. 6 ай бұрын
11:20 the irony here is you can start from here and up until the Soviet speech-writers line, think they're talking about Jong-un from the jump
@alexcarter8807
@alexcarter8807 9 ай бұрын
Kim Jong-Eun wearing JNCO's would be an exercise in ultimate stubbiness.
@mathewkelly9968
@mathewkelly9968 10 ай бұрын
I confer i had guns at 7 years old ......... Air rifles calm down it was the 80s ........ But if youd given me a Generals uniform as well , things would have gone real south real fast
@portmantologist
@portmantologist 10 ай бұрын
It always hurts to hear the way Robert pronounces things, but this episode especially hurts because I speak Korean and Chinese. The first time you said "Juche", I thought "what the fuck is joosh?" Eventually I realized you were referring to "joo-chay".
@alexcarter8807
@alexcarter8807 9 ай бұрын
He mangles the hell out of all sorts of words, and I mean of all languages including and especially English, which he's a native speaker of. If that's any comfort.
@TheDarthbinky
@TheDarthbinky 9 ай бұрын
Oh yeah, the way he massacres German pronunciation (and thanks to Nazism, there's a TON of eps involving Germans), I pretty much have come to the conclusion that it's a running gag.
@standardnerd2046
@standardnerd2046 9 ай бұрын
He does, but he also apologises in advance. He covers bastards from all areas so I don't begrudge him any pronunciations, he can hardly be expected to know the nuances of all regions and dialects ( although I cringed every time he mentioned an Irish person or place in the catholic church series :D ). He's an equal opportunities word mangler
@shmehfleh3115
@shmehfleh3115 7 ай бұрын
I'm a dumb white guy, and it hurt me to hear. He mispronounces a lot of stuff, even what I thought are pretty common names and words.
@whym6438
@whym6438 6 ай бұрын
As an American who tried to learn Korean and gave up, the spelling of Korean names in English letters is very inconsistent and tough to work out, which is weird, given how easy and simple hanggeul is. Like, which English asshole decided that the last name 박 needed to be spelled "Park", and why did they hate the Scottish, Irish, and Americans so much? (Edit: It should be spelled "Bak" or "Pak", because the r is NOT pronounced, is what I'm getting at.) "Joosh" is still inexcusable, though.
@mx338
@mx338 3 ай бұрын
I feel like the format of this podcast doesn't serve trying to explain history that well, in South Korea the dictatorship built the economy up in a centralised fashion by giving enormous resources to a few specific families, it is only later that democratic reforms are made.
@T61APL89
@T61APL89 4 ай бұрын
The book Evans mentioned is spelled The Great Successor by Anna Fifield
@aaronyoung542
@aaronyoung542 Жыл бұрын
You need to do an episode of sygmund rhee now, who's honestly just as bad in several ways
@fives.
@fives. 6 ай бұрын
I co-sign this heavily, South Korea has had similar-yet-politically-inverse-issues with totalitarian leaders
@SesshyLover777
@SesshyLover777 9 ай бұрын
Btw everyone, Busan is a great city if you ever have the chance to go! So is Daegu ^^ (near Busan) also, the way they copied Japan's emperor myth homework but changed it is too funny considering
@peaceking7526
@peaceking7526 Жыл бұрын
the climate change part was super grim but its true sadly
@jonsnowver4183
@jonsnowver4183 19 күн бұрын
The way you pronounce "Juche" (joo-CHay) kills me
@SeekSeekLest
@SeekSeekLest 7 ай бұрын
That first segway might be the worst ad read in I have ever seen.
@MrJohndoakes
@MrJohndoakes Ай бұрын
29:30 It isn't just Juche (self-reliance), there is also "Songgun" or "military first" and the phrase "Songgun Juche" is constantly mentioned. It's their version of Maoism, mixed with this Albanian-style military paranoia (except they don't build endless bunkers) about South Korea and Japan.
@Don_Ricardo
@Don_Ricardo 10 ай бұрын
1:09:30 what are Jenkos? Jinkos?
@johnwaller7033
@johnwaller7033 9 ай бұрын
JNCOs were the pants in the 90s with the super huge legs. Like, you could have 36 pants with 44 inch legs.. each leg.
@bobar57
@bobar57 Жыл бұрын
The plural of lego is lego
@twalt
@twalt Жыл бұрын
i am very sure you are pronouncing juche wrong. pretty sure its two syllables
@MrJohndoakes
@MrJohndoakes Ай бұрын
""Joo-che" not "joosh" or "jooch".
@NeighborhoodOfBlue
@NeighborhoodOfBlue 4 ай бұрын
I will never understand the appeal of Ariana Grande.
@briangarvey6895
@briangarvey6895 10 ай бұрын
Your summary of the Korean War was so bad it made me side with the North Koreans.
@notinspectorgadget
@notinspectorgadget 6 ай бұрын
What made it a bad summary?
@thelandlockedkaiju4820
@thelandlockedkaiju4820 4 ай бұрын
“Elaborate on that” “No”
@adamgroszkiewicz814
@adamgroszkiewicz814 4 ай бұрын
Joo-chay....not joosh. At least look at a pronunciation before doing a 1 hour+ podcast on a subject.
@MrJohndoakes
@MrJohndoakes Ай бұрын
Robert Evans has never been able to pronounce foreign words.
@johnl5350
@johnl5350 10 ай бұрын
Opening up with "indisputable" and uncorroborated conclusions. No doubt! 30 years! Come on now.
@mathewkelly9968
@mathewkelly9968 10 ай бұрын
The only uncorroborated part is your claim the climate isn't fucked
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