(Part Three) The Villisca Axe Murders: The Reverend Lyn George Kelly w/ Edgar Epperly

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2 жыл бұрын

In this third and final part of my interview with Dr. Edgar Epperly, the "little minister" Lyn George Jacklin Kelly is examined as a primary suspect in the 1912 Villisca Axe Murders. Although Kelly spoke obsessively about the case and even confessed to the murders, many believed that the confession was the result of mental illness and police coercion.
Dr. Epperly also offers his thoughts on whether the murders might be the work of a serial killer named Paul Mueller (aka The Man From the Train). Dr. Epperly's book, the result of almost seventy years of research, is called "Fiend Incarnate: Villisca Axe Murders of 1912".
Listener discretion is advised on this episode, as it contains adult themes and language.
Dr. Epperly's website: villiscabook.com/
More about the documentary "Villisca: Living with a Mystery" here: www.villiscamovie.com/
Dr. Epperly's Villisca Axe Murders Blog: docublogger.typepad.com/villi...

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@bigchungus2063 2 жыл бұрын

After listening to all three parts I find Dr Epperly to be one of the greatest storyteller ive ever heard and he is a Treasure

@cet6237 2 жыл бұрын

Except.....I find it difficult to accept that a "DOCTOR" doesn't know they are called "HEARSE" not "HEARST". Whether a PhD Dr. Or a M.D. Dr. It is really low level information that its called "HEARSE"!

@MrsMac3099 Жыл бұрын

@@cet6237 , there is a American accent where people put a T at the end of words. It is also more common in older generations.

@aheineman9138 Жыл бұрын

@@cet6237 Please give him grace. He’s 87 during this interview. Cognitive decline begins around age 45 so errors in speech, thinking, and memory are natural. My very well educated grandmother regularly called my sister, “Merry,” “Muffin,” the dog’s name later in life. He’s clearly quite intelligent and doesn’t deserve criticism.

@sharonrovansek8987 Жыл бұрын

I’ve heard him speak in person and he is not only the authority on this case, he is a very nice man. It was about 5 years ago, he gave a talk at the public library in Iowa and went around and shook everyone’s hand (this was a packed standing room crowd) and answered every question no matter how small. I think he would have kept going if the library weren’t going to close! He is still giving talks and I’d encourage anyone who can to go.

@stevefranckhauser7989 Жыл бұрын

@@cet6237 Regional vernacular.

@garlickebagg 2 жыл бұрын

Eric, one of your best. This guy almost 87? A big Attaboy to him. 💜👍😎.

@cherylbommarito5569 Жыл бұрын

One of the most intriguing interesting podcast I have ever heard. Such excellent logic! So thoughtful.

@joyceeverson5777 6 ай бұрын

I just came across this today. I had to tell you this is one of the most professional podcasts I've heard. No hype, no myths, no sensationalism. I had to subscribe. Thank you for your hard work!

@zetsuai_ 2 жыл бұрын

dr. epperly has been such a joy to listen to. if only there was an audiobook version of Fiend Incarnate with him reading it!

@cmrjc74 Жыл бұрын

This is the best presentation of this story I’ve come across awesome work

@MostNotorious Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@geporras99 Жыл бұрын

Well done, Dr. Epperly! Thank you for the interview. Very interesting story!

@eviehammond9509 Жыл бұрын

This 3 part series has been by far the most comprehensive & interesting discussion on the Viscilica ax murders. Listening to Ed and all the details he provides feels like your listening to someone who was actually there during 1912. Thank you again for this I originally was going to listen to part one to fall asleep to but ended up staying up the rest of the night to listen to all 3 because I just couldn't stop until it was concluded. I'm looking forward to watching your past videos & highly anticipate your future ones. Awesome job, you definitely have a new subscriber. PS... Love Ed's take on life!! He's definitely living his life to the fullest & sharp as a tack. Wishing you both the best & thanks again.

@RED-cy7ig 2 жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed his explanation of the circumstances of each suspect.

@gaylemc2692 Жыл бұрын

This man is amazing. His investigating and collaboration is superb. Thank you both for presenting this case to us. I'm glad I got to listen to all three in the same day. I'm glad I didn't have to wait a week apart. Excellent, excellent, excellent.

@martinclarke6681 11 күн бұрын

Very enjoyable listen thank you Eric greetings from Dublin Ireland 🇮🇪☘️

@stevefranckhauser7989 Жыл бұрын

Outstanding in every possible way.

@AlexaLake1 2 жыл бұрын

Eric, this was a most fascinating and enjoyable interview. Thank you.

@swannoir Жыл бұрын

What a fabulous interview. Thank you so much for doing this and making it available for anyone who is interested in this case.

@justshani8950 Жыл бұрын

What an a amazing storyteller

@julieannballard6333 8 күн бұрын

I love this detailed series! Thank you for almost of this amazing historical information!

@Mr-gg8ek 2 жыл бұрын

The book The Man From the Train completely dismantles the frivolous case against Kelly. It is about as hollow as the types of things Wilkerson came up with.

@user-xx4ku8kw4t 3 ай бұрын

Thank you. My Mother grew up in the home of C.A. & Lu Moore after her Mother passed (I grew up calling them Grandpa & Grandma). C.A. was Joe's brother. I've been hearing of the murders since I was a child. I have been in the house many times. I believe Senator Jones was behind the killings. He may not have been there when they were committed but he had the power and money needed to get this done. Greed/money/business was the motive. God Bless America, God Save The Republic.

@laurabuehler Жыл бұрын

I bought The Man from the Train after your interview with the daughter. While there is a case to be made for that theory, I wasn't 100% convinced that all the murders listed in that book are connected. These 3 videos have given so much more detail about the Villisca murders, and I am eager to learn more. I will most likely buy this book in the near future. The Man from the Train tries to make Kelly look like a crazy person who tried to insert himself into the story by voluntarily giving a false confession. This series of interviews paints a different picture & actually makes Kelly seem like a very plausible suspect. Was the Kelly confession coerced? Did Kelly really do it? It is certainly worth looking into both theories in much more detail.

@aheineman9138 Жыл бұрын

Dr. Epperly mentioned Occam’s razor. Because the Kelly theory is the simplest explanation, it is therefore the best explanation.

@erin.v.m657 10 ай бұрын

@@aheineman9138...the Kelly theory isn't at all the simplest explanation.

@aheineman9138 10 ай бұрын

@@erin.v.m657 Lol. I referenced Dr. Epperly and was obviously paraphrasing him. His expertise on this case is renowned. That said, you simply state it’s not the simplest explanation with no supporting evidence. What, pray tell, is the simplest explanation in your esteemed opinion?

@erin.v.m657 10 ай бұрын

@@aheineman9138 ...no need for sass. I simply said it wasn't the simplest explanation. I would never deny Dr. Epperly the respect that he has earned, and the devotion and Herculean effort he has put into the Vallisca case. He himself oscillates between Kelly and a serial killer. I firmly believe it was Paul Mueller.

@MostNotorious Жыл бұрын

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@syscoladyliberty6080 Жыл бұрын

Am I the only one who looked up the September Morn painting? 😆 lol

@edepperly2952 Жыл бұрын

Sysco, I have seen it.

@swannoir Жыл бұрын

I looked it up, too, lol

@moviemakerwannabe Жыл бұрын

Has anyone done a book on the murders that took place in the states and times that make a single serial killer a possibility for them all?

@pallasathena1369 Жыл бұрын

Could a predatory stalker also be a schizophrenic? Why kill the entire household when he could have attacked the victim alone somewhere? Religion mixed with schizophrenia could be dangerous surely?

@DEATH-THE-GOAT 2 жыл бұрын

Hinterkaifeck in March 1922 by mattock.

@rebelbelle62 2 жыл бұрын

Do killers not evolve as they go along?

@HAL-yn3zj 7 ай бұрын

I still think that the most logical conclusion would be the husband of the girl he was having an affair with but nobody says anything about him.

@marycahill546 7 ай бұрын

Very interesting. The Reverend sounds like our man to me -- sexual problems, peeping Tom, sexually motivated killings, confessed, had bloody shirt, lived very near another woman who was killed with an axe. His confession in particular, so full of warped religious ideation, is quite plausible. The fact he was a small man is neither here nor there -- you can land the first blows by surprise, and continue on from there.

@garyboyd3255 Жыл бұрын

Was Kelly left handed? Might have missed it if they discussed

@pallasathena1369 Жыл бұрын

Yes he was and they matched the angle with the blood spray.

@LanceIngram-cg3ej 5 күн бұрын

Great series. I think Mr Kelly is the killer. The young Swedish girl to me is obviously the work of Kelly. He is the most obvious suspect. Could he have had an accomplice??