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Super Long track Rc Snowmobile - Is longer really better?

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Pascal Robert - Rc Creations

Pascal Robert - Rc Creations

Күн бұрын

I later calculated the equivalent length of the skid, and I end up with a theoretical 245'' equivalent skid. Pretty impressive!
You might think that it is lacking power, but it is really not. It has a big power combo from castle and with a similar ''normal'' track it can pull wheelies all day long. With the increased load and weight, it was only a matter of time before the gears had enough, and its actually the Traxxas spur gear that failed at 4:37, not my gearbox. (Yay!)
Ps, Decagon part 2 was not ready for this weeks video, It'll come up in (hopefully) a week or less from now, same goes for the rc sled collection sale video.
Leave suggestions on things to test, I do still read every comments!
Pascal

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@PropellerPixMN
@PropellerPixMN 3 жыл бұрын
Ive been following you for a few years now. I love that you're testing new configurations all the time. What works for a full size snowmobile (dimensions, skis, track dimensions, center of mass, etc) may not work as well when it is scaled down. It is so much work to research this stuff and it is soooo cool you are doing it. With RC cars being as ridiculous as they are today it makes me wonder why Traxxas or one of the other big brands haven't figured out RC snowmobiles. Have you thought about increasing rotational mass for stability like RC motorcycles? (gyro effect) On full scale machines the rider provides a lot of stability by leaning which is tough to replicate on an RC. I think with you're determination, testing, and constant refinements, you will truly have an awesome RC Snowmobile that is incredibly fun to drive. Keep it up!
@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations
@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations 3 жыл бұрын
I do appreciate the feedback! I like to do these kind research personally too. The track is between 8 to 10% of the weight of the machine. It actually has a lot in of inertia, especially and the speed at which they are spinning. If you have a nice ramp to launch it, and drive it properly, you can almost do a tailwhip. I'll do my best to insert a clip in a futur compilation!
@AlaskaBrisketCo
@AlaskaBrisketCo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for being a pioneer for rc snowmobiles. I believe there will be a point in the future where we see your designs (or copies) in the mainstream rc game. Keep it up brother, God bless.
@SheldonMorris08
@SheldonMorris08 3 жыл бұрын
This is by far one of my favourite videos, I’ve always been curious what a longer track would be like on a real snowmobile and I guess this can shine some light on this, another awesome video Pascal, keep them coming
@carmichaelmoritz8662
@carmichaelmoritz8662 3 жыл бұрын
in real a long track makes all the difference
@williamekberg2287
@williamekberg2287 3 жыл бұрын
You should try to make a snowmobile with a controllable weight on top that shifts from side to side, simulating the weight of a driver!
@codyriecken1474
@codyriecken1474 3 жыл бұрын
He had and it didn’t work
@williamekberg2287
@williamekberg2287 3 жыл бұрын
@@codyriecken1474 I just saw that, but wouldn't it work better to have one stick on the controller steer the skis and one stick to control the weight, instead of just one stick that controls both the skis and the weight, that makes counter steering not possible.
@Dustin34
@Dustin34 3 жыл бұрын
@@williamekberg2287 that was what I thought. One stick is dumb
@williamekberg2287
@williamekberg2287 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dustin34 yeah, kind of defeats the purpose
@KalLanPIDT
@KalLanPIDT 3 жыл бұрын
This is a good idea, would be sick to have a wheel radio with a thumbstick for your left thumb that would move a driver around. I think the sled would have to be bigger though to fit a doll that advanced on it and keep the weight ratios between the two right.
@elis740
@elis740 7 ай бұрын
Where the normal track ends and the extension begins, you should try kicking it up 5 degrees and see how much that affects it. Thank you for the Awesome video!
@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations
@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations 7 ай бұрын
It would most likely help get out of the snow easier but you would still have no control other than in a straight line. The track would still not dig and get to the stiffer stuff down there, So I still believe a regular 165 or 154 is a better option in a deep snow senario. I like the suggestion tho👍
@b01tact10n
@b01tact10n Жыл бұрын
Pretty kewl, I was surfing sled vids and stumbled upon rc sleds 😁 That is one crazy sled if it was scaled to be driven by us 😁 Thumbs up good vid!
@hondafreak8613
@hondafreak8613 3 жыл бұрын
Should try adding little bit of weight to rear skid, wider skis, and paddles on track. Looks sick👍
@gymkhanadog
@gymkhanadog Жыл бұрын
lol! I had no idea there were RC snowmobiles. Very cool
@detroitdiesel7074
@detroitdiesel7074 3 жыл бұрын
Wow I didn’t realize how big these snowmobiles are!!! You are amazing
@MsHigheagle
@MsHigheagle 3 жыл бұрын
That was awesome man and that thing plows through snow, I think side by side it would win in that snow
@LAPLAND_SUPERTRAMP
@LAPLAND_SUPERTRAMP 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe you should try a track that have longer betvine the lugs, and specily lugs for deep powder snow. Like a modern deep powder snowmobile
@Yz4Life
@Yz4Life 3 жыл бұрын
yes needs more space in between the paddles to allow snow to get between them and create more push on the snow.
@TenToesUp450
@TenToesUp450 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe try removing some lugs to create bigger gaps that will make removing the snow easier? Mtn sleds normally have huge gaps between paddles for that very purpose. Great video! 👍🏼
@SirSlyBird
@SirSlyBird 3 жыл бұрын
Merci Pascale d'avoir partagé ton projet avec nous. Tu a inspirer mon projet Snow Strider, une motoneige qui va mesurer environ 25 pouce de long. Le plus dure c'est le capot mais Fusion 360 vas réglée le problem. Lâcher pas la patate tu fais du bon travail.
@KHSBikesCo
@KHSBikesCo 3 жыл бұрын
Your analysis on the track with how the snow and the luxe grip sounds fairly accurate unbelievable, but if you are going to give scaling perspective keep in mind that the fluff you're driving that snowmobile in to scale would be probably be like 4 feet of champagne powder to real snowmobile. Cool vid
@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations
@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations 3 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely correct. In harder snow conditions, the result could have likely being different.
@AS-mo9fb
@AS-mo9fb 3 жыл бұрын
SWT next?
@jg413
@jg413 3 жыл бұрын
Should let Ross Robinson give it a spin.... he will tell ya what it needs next!!! Nice work, love your videos
@kylebarke3178
@kylebarke3178 3 жыл бұрын
i think that if some thing was like that in real life it would be like the Polaris RMK 174" with an track extension and that would be absolutely crazy
@danabyrne1122
@danabyrne1122 3 жыл бұрын
wow that is so neat there
@alexleklund
@alexleklund 3 жыл бұрын
I need one of these sweet Sleds... we just got 12 inches of fresh snow in central Iowa !!
@kylebarke3178
@kylebarke3178 3 жыл бұрын
damn unfortunate i wanted that snow haha hi from southern minnesota
@chris_moodie9
@chris_moodie9 3 жыл бұрын
I need something like this to get me through the winter months
@burk3552
@burk3552 3 жыл бұрын
Man this is awesome,we were talking about this at work the other day and now u upload a video! Wicked buddy shes a brute!
@naveda08
@naveda08 3 жыл бұрын
Super cool stuff subbed
@PJMDValley
@PJMDValley 3 жыл бұрын
It certainly has plenty of power. What about going wider with the track and/or skis? Great vid ... thanks.
@robertruhl2270
@robertruhl2270 3 жыл бұрын
so there's a probability you'll see this comment but i've been thinking about getting a rc sled and making a rider that works as a counter balance so it could make driving a little more fun! also this comment was made drunk at 10 at night :))
@robertruhl2270
@robertruhl2270 3 жыл бұрын
so a little bit of description I want to make the rider weighted with a couple of servos that control the placement of the rider so you can carve and ride around a little easier!
@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations
@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations 3 жыл бұрын
You are not the only person that came up with the idea. The problem is that even if you did it, you cant react fast enough at that scale to control it prefectly. Sure practice helps, but look at a real rider go. He's not only going side to side, he's back on the boards, walking the sled, foot down, all that makes it difficult to replicate, and even harder to control quickly and precisely. The idea is good and ill likely look back into it some day, but the challenge is immense
@robertruhl2270
@robertruhl2270 3 жыл бұрын
@@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations agreed at that scale it'll be hard and I plan on 3d printing some parts and looking deeper into it! Also love the channel!!!
@bowtierj
@bowtierj 3 жыл бұрын
Will we ever get a chance at buying the 1/5 files. You are doing some amazing stuff man i love your videos and innovation.
@russelleldridge3726
@russelleldridge3726 6 ай бұрын
The problem is when you increased the length of the track, the weight of the machine is spread out across a bigger suface area which is making the snowmobile “float” on the top of the snow. The easiest thing to do would be to increase the depth of the lugs, Just for the hell of it, I would find out the weight of a mountain sled and divide that across the surface area of the full size track. I would also compare the lug depth compared to the length of the track. Do the math and you can figure out the PSI And compare it against your RC to see if you’re even in the neighborhood
@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations
@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations 6 ай бұрын
You are correct, and understand about 90% of it. There's also a difference in how the snow itself is at that scale. The snow particules does not scale up and down with the scale of the machine. So you are never going to have a perfect apple to apple comparison. The only exception is when the snow is crusty or straight up ice, but that ain't as fun :)
@extremeoffroad-snowmountai9084
@extremeoffroad-snowmountai9084 3 жыл бұрын
thanks for your help with me all brothers and subscribers 🙏🙏🙏👍
@rcclassiccrawlers4368
@rcclassiccrawlers4368 8 ай бұрын
Very cool mod. Now you should find a little action figure to mount on it.
@mikeleach70
@mikeleach70 3 жыл бұрын
Keep up the great work. I love to come here and watch your machines. Have you ever thought pitching your design to a hobby company. Also I’d get a patent for as much as you can so you could receive royalties.
@Chris-zu8ve
@Chris-zu8ve 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe paint the sled anything but white so it shows up on the cam. also needs LONGER lugs like a Mountain sled, the track is too long for the rest of the scale of the sled. that causes it to roll more from what i am seeing. I think for the deep powder you have to scale the entire SLED UP not just the track because sometimes when we scale things down, they dont react the same as in a 1:1 rig. looking fwd to seeing more from you,
@noahalookie6291
@noahalookie6291 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I had one of those Rc snowmobile
@derkommentarschreiber3603
@derkommentarschreiber3603 3 жыл бұрын
That moment when you see someone do something that you always wanted to do (Regarding the rc snowmobile)
@troyroquette261
@troyroquette261 3 жыл бұрын
Probably carves better cuz more skid deeper in snow holding it up. Sleds are awsome keep up the great work.👍
@mikeskidmore6754
@mikeskidmore6754 3 жыл бұрын
A full scale snowmobile would compact the snow for more traction .. You have no rider weight input .. I think a wider ski stance would help to make up for no rider..
@grizz184
@grizz184 3 жыл бұрын
Weight over the track will do wonders
@relaxingnature2617
@relaxingnature2617 3 жыл бұрын
Air flow along the top of the track is important too ..otherwise snow gets jammed as its forced thru and wastes power
@parkourrush3820
@parkourrush3820 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video man it is a very nice rc snowmobile. But you kinda have a dutch accent are from the netherlands by any chanes or not.
@mikehd3904
@mikehd3904 3 жыл бұрын
Good job pascal 👍
@Racer57
@Racer57 3 жыл бұрын
Wonder if more weight in the track would help? Maybe put tire weights on the skid to help it?
@hunterjohnstone6111
@hunterjohnstone6111 2 жыл бұрын
Probably need todo another video with this long track. and take it out on the water and see if it does good?
@SylerP_95
@SylerP_95 3 жыл бұрын
I think you should make the track a lil bit longer.
@toddcoello6461
@toddcoello6461 3 жыл бұрын
We're supposed to be getting up to 12 inches of snow tomorrow. I need to take the thundercat out.
@ronrichards2691
@ronrichards2691 3 жыл бұрын
Me to buddy
@andrehaleta8401
@andrehaleta8401 3 жыл бұрын
Widen the front skies
@richardgiles6997
@richardgiles6997 3 жыл бұрын
You should attempt 3D printing a classic sled, like a 93 Indy or something like that
@connorbalaskas2281
@connorbalaskas2281 3 жыл бұрын
An enticer
@lucasfromdavalley
@lucasfromdavalley 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody wants to 3d print a shitty sled that u own
@superleggera1992
@superleggera1992 Жыл бұрын
U shld add alot wider stance for the front skies! Thatd be awesome and possibly perform better?
@izzzzzz6
@izzzzzz6 3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps try to get some of the weight closer to the rear, might be good t try to get the battery pack somewhere mounted up inside the skid.
@mixermanbear.4002
@mixermanbear.4002 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t get enough track speed it seems.
@theohoff646
@theohoff646 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos!
@marshallamplification60TSL
@marshallamplification60TSL 3 жыл бұрын
I need to ride this..only true weighted scenario that is legit
@BikerDaddy22RideorDie
@BikerDaddy22RideorDie 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think putting a rider on it for a little extra weight will help it rip better? Extra weight to put track down.
@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations
@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations 3 жыл бұрын
I dont think so. Its already one of the heaviest machines i have. The floatation is just too high for a machine of that size. It stays on the fluff on the top and it needs to move it out and get deeper to get traction.
@Itdontmatter69
@Itdontmatter69 3 жыл бұрын
How frikin cool
@brianstrand5651
@brianstrand5651 3 жыл бұрын
I think the RC snowmobile It's just too light Versus a real snowmobile it would be compacting the snow down
@jacobbishop9012
@jacobbishop9012 3 жыл бұрын
That's honestly the problem with any rc vehicle you right
@LawnCrew
@LawnCrew 3 жыл бұрын
My damn printer isn’t big enough for the damn skid! Time to upgrade my printer! HAH
@traviscool2121
@traviscool2121 3 жыл бұрын
Power to weight ratio vs. track surface area.
@ericfroncek6847
@ericfroncek6847 3 ай бұрын
Add the simulated rider weight, would that help just saying
@Monique112
@Monique112 2 жыл бұрын
I need to make the back longer with the track
@aspectcrow
@aspectcrow 3 жыл бұрын
How about you can make the biggest rc snowmobile in the world Edit: how about a fat track
@austinschneider2706
@austinschneider2706 3 жыл бұрын
So I wonder what would happen with huge lugs instead of a long track
@aaronmendoza862
@aaronmendoza862 3 жыл бұрын
So do you sell the entire snowmobile or just the kits?
@minnesota4169
@minnesota4169 3 жыл бұрын
How did you make this dude that thing is insane
@ontheedge33371
@ontheedge33371 3 жыл бұрын
I feel the same about the comment a couple under mine that you need weight and longer lugs like a simulated 3 inch lug ?
@emilravnas530
@emilravnas530 3 жыл бұрын
Can you made a lynx glx59000
@sledmaker
@sledmaker 3 жыл бұрын
Check my ig 'sledmaker' , got a GL3900 under work. 5900 isn't that hard to mod once the front and frame are done.
@gustenpaues3950
@gustenpaues3950 3 жыл бұрын
Nice i relly whant that
@K-B-C
@K-B-C 3 жыл бұрын
What about a taller, or more paddle style lug on the printed track. Your other models tear threw and wheelie. Is that because the track is shorter ?
@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations
@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations 3 жыл бұрын
Because of the increased skid lenght, it's almost impossible to pull a wheelie from such a long point. A longer paddle would still not make it wheelie more. The pivot point is simply too far back
@jonathandubois3770
@jonathandubois3770 2 жыл бұрын
Trop COOL
@HarshFire_
@HarshFire_ 3 жыл бұрын
I want one so bad
@gregoirelamontagne8949
@gregoirelamontagne8949 3 жыл бұрын
It would be funny if you modified the new brp side by side écouter car
@DBarRanch
@DBarRanch 2 жыл бұрын
We’re can I get a rc snowmobile like a good one
@MarkSmith-er4gd
@MarkSmith-er4gd 3 жыл бұрын
How can I purchase one of these Rc snowmobiles? Do you sell them?
@supertedogpriken
@supertedogpriken 3 жыл бұрын
You should try making a 1/4 scale sled with a gas powerd engine like the 1/4 scale cars have. THe "chainsaw/weadeater" 2stroke engines. That way you get the sweat 2stroke smell real sled makes in real life.
@ObsidianFPV
@ObsidianFPV 2 жыл бұрын
Printing this in white was an odd choice..... lol , cool though.
@jordanappelbaum8630
@jordanappelbaum8630 3 жыл бұрын
When can we buy them
@mr.woofsandgilbertspuppetc7646
@mr.woofsandgilbertspuppetc7646 3 жыл бұрын
I been looking for one but all are not good except yours 😂
@user-ps9xd4jp6b
@user-ps9xd4jp6b 7 ай бұрын
Hey I was just wondering if I am aloud to bring my alpha 6 to school for a project
@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations
@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations 7 ай бұрын
Yes, of course
@jerryengle8024
@jerryengle8024 3 жыл бұрын
Can there be a place where you can buy the snowmobile
@hugoiii8708
@hugoiii8708 3 жыл бұрын
Hi I would like to buy a Rc snowmobile, Can I get tips on which I should have?. I want it to be able to step up and a lot of power. And I then buy cases of course from you
@terryhays8429
@terryhays8429 3 жыл бұрын
Where’re do you get this snowmobile at
@uintafarmer8430
@uintafarmer8430 3 жыл бұрын
did you make this
@jaakkoliikkanen5505
@jaakkoliikkanen5505 2 жыл бұрын
Where you by this snowmobil
@oriklekiwi0977
@oriklekiwi0977 3 жыл бұрын
Where can I buy arc sled that goes that fast
@nickgraupman8457
@nickgraupman8457 3 жыл бұрын
This is interesting
@dangiroux7065
@dangiroux7065 3 жыл бұрын
Having bigger lugs would help a lot....
@braydendumas6806
@braydendumas6806 3 жыл бұрын
He could’ve made the skidoo a darker colour for us to see better lol
@elmo4057
@elmo4057 3 жыл бұрын
Where i can buy good rc snowmobile
@jl7394
@jl7394 3 жыл бұрын
Nice modification
@arttska
@arttska 3 жыл бұрын
are you planning on selling those sleds
@twoguyspies2056
@twoguyspies2056 3 жыл бұрын
What size motor do you use? brushed or brushless?
@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations
@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations 3 жыл бұрын
This specific one was a brushless 4274, but normally a 540 or 550 class works great and are a bit lighter
@twoguyspies2056
@twoguyspies2056 3 жыл бұрын
@@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations Thanks!
@joeymorris4863
@joeymorris4863 3 жыл бұрын
So you mean I just spend $15k on a useless sled when I could have just bought an RC sled for $250?
@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations
@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations 3 жыл бұрын
Why not spend $15k on a RC sled?🤔
@marccomeau6293
@marccomeau6293 3 жыл бұрын
Need longer lugs and a bit more weight to the whole machine
@dawber2111
@dawber2111 9 ай бұрын
have you done the actual long track mod? i printed the long track rails for my build wanted opinions
@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations
@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations 9 ай бұрын
I'm not sure I understand what you are asking. I have made the test in the videos for a long track on a mini sled, But I have not tested something like that on a real machine.
@dawber2111
@dawber2111 9 ай бұрын
@@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations like in the skeeride mod folder the king track mod that i think is a little shorter then that
@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations
@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations 9 ай бұрын
I dont know, this is not a skeeride
@dawber2111
@dawber2111 9 ай бұрын
@@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations wait it’s not?
@ellefson9576
@ellefson9576 3 жыл бұрын
I think your next step is to make a rider!
@beryean1366
@beryean1366 3 жыл бұрын
The turning would be hard
@kyronplayz7210
@kyronplayz7210 3 жыл бұрын
where do you buy these? And would you sell one?
@carlandrews3475
@carlandrews3475 3 жыл бұрын
You should get a little dude to put on it it would look cooler
@Sensaatioko86
@Sensaatioko86 3 жыл бұрын
From where is that track from? How can i get one.
@BikerDaddy22RideorDie
@BikerDaddy22RideorDie 3 жыл бұрын
It looks to be 3D printed
@twiizz882
@twiizz882 3 жыл бұрын
where do you buy carpet
@innocentcreations1996
@innocentcreations1996 3 жыл бұрын
To long of a track it’s making the nose sink into the snow.. gonna have to put a faster kv motor in it to make it somewhat work. Or put weight on the back.
@actionsportster7686
@actionsportster7686 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. the long track provides greater flotation to back half of the sled, where it is already lighter than the front half, causing the front of the sled to sink or nose dive. The only thing to counter balance the weight difference is track speed. But increasing the spin of the track also has a downside ... it contributes to trenching. You need all of these things working together to create forward momentum. You have to find a balance between track flotation, weight distribution and power.
@sledmaker
@sledmaker 3 жыл бұрын
So you basically made a chainsaw with skis finally
@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations
@Pascal_Robert--Rc_Creations 3 жыл бұрын
Thats basically it yeah😄
@hitmannor1983
@hitmannor1983 3 жыл бұрын
where can i buy one?
@lorntapani6585
@lorntapani6585 3 жыл бұрын
How much would it be for u to make me one?
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