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Nah, I see a lot of biases. He didn't even try to hide it. Do your own research. It's a lot better.The technology that the ASML is using, it's a US tech. A rich formation comes with no bias.

@The Hate Factory Easier easier said than done.

@@mka1717 Technology has no nationality, therefore the point is moot, the entire video explains correctly how the US can block ASML sharing to China, but they can't block the science.

@@PascalCoppens Please update friend. Completely shocked! The best chip company in the world is actually in China! finance.sina.com.cn/stock/usstock/c/2018-04-23/doc-ifyuwqfa4774157.shtml

It's growing nicely now. With enough patience and new content, I am confident. Thanks for support

Not true. I already subscribed and thousands of my compatriots will too.

​@@AnnieT369 It's like a month already, how many more have pascal gained? It's way slower than those brainless anti-China KZfaqrs.

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@obimk1 but china is gaining , and gaining fast. Its only a matter of time. China produces more engineers and techies than the west by a significant multiple. 30 % of the tech work force in r & d and development in chip industry in the USA are ethnic chinese. 250,000 workers in Silicon Valley are ethnic chiese. And ever increasing numbers are returning home tp china . The writing is on the wall, china will catch up and pass 🇺🇸 chip manufacturing quicker than originally thought.

@Milosh Simonovski Exactly, market is the ultimate driving force behind innovation.

@Milosh Simonovski Exactly, market is the ultimate driving force behind innovation.

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One should not be surprised when China actually leap frog the current technology of chips that is produced by the suppliers now banned to China. And that would not be the first time it managed to achieve such a feat.

@@stephenlock7236 Like when did China get ahead in tech development in the last decades?

Remember GPS, US kept switch it off so they built their own one too

@Dennis Estrada Actually you are trying to say the US. I agree, the US is the most evil regime in the world.

@Dennis Estrada We don’t trust you.

I made a video on KZfaq on Space a few weeks ago. You are right. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rNyBm8V_krTUeoE.html

@@Infamous41 Low birth rate is a world problem. We are hitting 2.1. The next 100 year, your babies still cannot out number china. You thought you could laugh at China.

And more importantly, China has the largest consumer market and they will expand into all developing nations with its Belt and Road Initiative. So 80% of the world population will be China's consumers even without the West (15%).

It's also almost a matter of survival to do so. Always a good motivator.

that is crazy and scary 😱

@@walden6272 China market alone has world's largest premium tech consumer base as they graduate 4 million STEM students in China with at least one college degree each year.

YOU forced us to do it. YOU ganged up on us. Remember that!

Lol

He's comparing TSMC, a Taiwanese manufacturer to America. There is no mention of any Chinese manufacturer in this video.

Yes..I fully agreed...The US had wake up n force China to do better. Infact China just want the US to supply them the Chips so that both will be a in Win Win situation...but now since the US stop them buying from the US companies. The China has no choice but to force themself to Not depending on the US anymore but to Produce by themself. China has no problem in producing any type of chips. The US is the One who will Loose out...not China. It has also taught China .. Not to depend anything from the US. but to produce and earn everything for China..itself. China has no problems in producing anything by themself. They are so Advance and can produce Anything and is leading in Every fields & over taking the USA.

@@sunnykhaw5118 in reality China needs time to design their own equipments to make the 5nm chip and print the circuit on it.

I am in the semi-con for over 25 years and at that time China was very far away..but now with the US. supression it has wake up China in developing their own Chip rather then getting from the US and let them make profits .infact it was a Win Win for both. But now China has no choice but develop it the chip by themself. They are so advance in every fields. They even beat Japan for the super speed train in a short time so nothing is impossible for China.

@@sunnykhaw5118 No question China will produce the 5nm Chip but how fast. Min 2 yrs. During this time there is already acute shortage happening.

Interesting how times change fast in China

I agree with you about the 40nm. This is, what most analysts overlook. The high-end 5nm or 10nm chips only make max. 5% of the chip market, the rest is >14nm, and this is what china can manufacture today. The big western chip companies like TI, Analog Device, ST Mircro and so on, have now lead times of 52 weeks for there chips. When chinese companies can offer an replacement, with a short lead time, most product designers will switch over. I am not understanding, what the US plan is. But it looks very dangerous to there own chip industry. I guess, TSMC has no interest to produce low-profit 40nm chips, and this together with the US sanction on chinese fabs, has generated the chip shortage. This gives china now the perfect opportunity, to fill the vacuum.

They will leed as long as they can reverse engineer everything. They are not engineers by history but great financial invaders. Sorry to say that but i see the world changing in a not healthy way.

exactly!! china knows its logistics and importantly knows itself and the people and the markets... this makes them smart.. china didnt get to his stage by accident.. or by people blocking them

@@TrakThora Indeed the world cannot change to a healthy way when there is full of bigots with a mindset belonging to the past, stalled in the old days of colonialism, and constrained by zero-sum Cold War mentality. Those bigots are out to wreck havoc around the world in order to stop Chinese rise, because they are jealous, resentful and fear of Chinese achievements.

Very honest opinion, I support your comments.

Indeed, the Yin He incident.

Add AWAC and the addition will keep mounting because the day when the bald eagle is revealed it is just a pluck turkey is fast coming.

You cant shut down GPS service for one indivdual ship. What are you taking about, US have to shut down ALL the GPS cover in a large area to shut down YinHe gps service.

Yinhe was chemical weapons bogus claim like WMD'S

Will China succeed? Someone trying is better than someone quitting. China will put a lot resources into semiconductor chips. It will be a good challenge for China and besides the USA ban gives them no choice.

7nm technology chip is complete，but need time to rise up yield. Chinese DUV\EUV scanner is a joke currently，the project had already run 15 years with very low investment and priority. The time our government turly start mobilization laboratory and company for scanner is around 2021/02，i think another 15 years are needed.

@@user-gi1ne9fy6e No, probably no more than 3-4. But once done the 3nm will be within reach quickly.

@@user-gi1ne9fy6e ok but 7nm and below is a big leap, due to the nature of the wave length required. far harder to produce the energy wave of that wave length, and even harder to manipulate it to preform lithography.

More there’s a commercial interest/market, there is a way.

You guys thought they were dumb?

It amazes how they do it, we are falling behind in USA

What happens when they stop buying?

China is helping many countries now to catch up as well, which is less talked about. Especially with application inventions using China's digital infrastructure.

@@Infamous41 that will be the moment the West realizes that China is starting to lead in innovation.

@@PascalCoppens they never will

China is late comer to EV and doesn't have a lot to catch up. China doesn't dominate EV that's why China allowed Tesla in for Chinese automakers to up their game. but it does have major presence in autonomous driving because of 5G coverage.

@@willengel2458 Check out NIO!! NIO will dominate the high end of the EV market in China which is the world’s largest EV market. BYD dominates in the low end EV and commercial EV bus market in China. In between you hand Xpeng and Li Auto. On EV scooter, NIU is a monster in the making.

@@willengel2458 They have one of the biggest battery supplier in the world, companies like CATL and BYD, which is the most value part in a car.

Agreed. Don't forget quantum...that will be the big leap in my view.

@@tkam9 I can't wait for the NIO EVE to become a reality!

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@western wumao literally what the US has been guilty of throughout its history too.

@western wumao tu dois être payé cent sous pour déblatérer sur la chine

@JK12nola he knows the truth. Spreading the rumour is his job.

@@Andy-P 1.4B compare to 3.4Mil in d US, No comparison! China has the Largest Market... EU is a collection of countries, They can go apart anytime/ Brexit...

Thanks Ken!

In America the more pressure, the more drug & alcohol abuse.

Chip making manufacturing is costly and need sophisticated know how. Those are the reason why many Chinese Companies reluctant to enter the industry. But when you push them on Dead or Alive situation, those obstacles won't be a big consideration anymore.

@@naurasal9165 indeed. Its just a matter of time.

True, but China is not just anybody :) And we were all borned in an environment that we are threaterned in so many areas so we have to work extremely hard and find a way out. While in the US people are too pround and spoilt.

And then the Cat eats the Rat! Stop being the Rat!

China stole all knowledge together I wonder how long it will take before they can make the machines themselves. (a chinese managed to steal source code from asml)

@@henkholdingastate On the same note, I suppose China also stole the robots which landed on the dark side of the moon and the planet of Mars? What about the 8 nations which attacked China and looted the imperial collection of gold and antiques? It really takes a thief to catch a thief?!

Very sensible analysis

When geopolitics and pride are involved, such a market-centered analysis will not cut it

The problem isn’t China and the world. The problem is the us, who is causing problems for everyone.

The US can still sanction Samsung because Samsung uses some US technologies.

@@johnnyq4260 just read carefully my first point.

@@user-hv4ky5kt2x That can't possibly be true, despite my sincerest wish. TSMC would be able to do the same if it were true.

@@johnnyq4260 1. You can dig info about Kirin 9000 yourself. 2. TSMC (taiwan) is fully under US' control, they won't do it, while south korea balance the relation to china and to US.

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China produces eight times of STEM graduates compared with US. When they make the decision to develop an industry they stick with their policies , not flip flopping every few years like the US.

people like to argue that no single country can fully vertically integrate the semiconductor supply chain, but consider that the combined population of all advanced countries in the world is still about 300 million less than china. China is basically another planet, and the US just royally pissed it off.

@TheMiddleKingdom "China can catch up with the U S on semiconductors" it's not the US that China has to catch up to. it's Taiwan and S. Korea.

Middle Kingdom, very well said

As someone pointed out, a lots of scientists in cpu field in USA are actually Chinese, just as Taiwanese, people of Province of China, in USA.

SMIC 7 nm mass production is starting next week :)

@@uhk5135 I was talking about their home-grown lithography. Not the DUV systems that they're buying from ASML.

@@catonpillow They can start mass production using DUV, heck my phone is still on 14nm, my laptop on 24nm still.

@@catonpillow thats full vertical integration, when china's own domestic lithography industry takes off its game over for the US tech war.

@@hughmungus2760 source please i'm curious

Yes, China's working on leapfrogging its competitors with third-generation semiconductors. ------ China's first and the world's third silicon carbide vertically integrated industrial chain will be put into production in Changsha High-tech Industrial Park in Central China's Hunan Province in July, media reports said. Industry insiders said it marks a further step in developing the domestic semiconductor sector and ensuring supply amid the US blockade targeting China. The plant will be capable of producing 30,000 6-inch silicon carbide wafers per month once put into operation. After completion, the Hunan San'an Semiconductor Base is expected to achieve annual sales of 12 billion yuan, media reports said. This mass production will be of great significance for China's third-generation semiconductor chip industry, experts said. (Global Times June 23, 2021)

Before the US had a huge customer. With the blockade they have lost this customer and have turned it into a big competitor.

artificial barriers created by geopolitics tend to force innovation. China has no other choice, it cannot let its entire tech industry flounder.

@Aikky Tan China will made a micky 🐁 mouse out of Taiwan chips maker and US efforts to contain China by manipulating Taiwan wil be an exercise of futility!!

@Aikky Tan whether China will attack Taiwan depended largely on Tsai and her administration overt thought of independence, US defence Secretary or generals visiting Taiwan or West and Taiwan having joint military exercise! As to the shift to KMT, it should be in the next election when towards that end, Taiwanese met a worse than expected economic exacerbated meltdown dued to West meltdown with China and allies sitting out!

If China could they would make them themselves instead of buying it. China will catch up for sure.

Wise strategy. Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak - Sun Tzu

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Why wu mao have engrish name "Dawson Winter"

@@catherinewheel2969 excellent point, my thoughts as well.

That is the trillion USD question.

Without 5G, America is going down naturally. While 6G is already out since November 2020. 7G is already under development. The 🐄 cowboys are still scare of the home made fake news consequences of 5G.

Do you want they should scumb to a tirent and give everything to them and become their slave

Taiwan does not want to be ruled by Beijing. America & allies will help keep Taiwan free. If it come to freedom or riches from China I think they will choose freedom. Once they give up freedom China can take away the riches.

@@Andy-P let's hope we never have to find out

I have one too. Made my videos with them.

The Market n Money is in China. All the foreign investors n talents will be lured over. Soon the USA Silicon Valley professional will shift over too.

Thanks for adding that

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I appreciate that!

Because he paid to do more sophisticated propaganda than standard mainland Wu Mao capable of! You see CPC bot talking, West person less likely to believe! That why Xi Ping and PLA pay him as white man!

@@catherinewheel2969 yeah yeah yeah, I could say the same to u and all the pennies paid by cia, we as the global south won’t believe anything westerners spouting. Cheers mate.

@@catherinewheel2969 that’s bcos we been terrorized. Plundered, colonized, slaved by global north. Sure Be proud of that. LMAO

@@catherinewheel2969 again, be proud of that achievement LOL

Absolutely, I agree

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He will go down on Storm Daniel and continue to deny it assuming people are stupid like him.

Actually, he is being remembered as such now by Chinese netters. Trump is well-known on China's Internet as "川建国" (Trump the China Builder). :-) And Biden is known as "拜振华“ （Biden the China Savior).

@@blacksagegrandmaster7699 Believe one is Pi Tan, the other Wang Pa Tan and America Wan Tan.

He will go down as the crude Orange Man who can't keep his trousers up.

Because they didn't sell their world beating lithography company to China, yeah right. That would have been really smart.

The Dutch was squeezing their own balls now not able to make more money from China.

@@wishfulguy4819 China is looking to undermine the west and western values. Money isn't everything.

@@Andy-P It was the West that sanction China here n not the otherwise.

And the will of its people

AMERICA IS THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD ! nothing can beat right wing capitalism and democracy.

And 8 times the STEM grads of the US

they also have little Donald and big Joe

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The thing is x86 is no longer compete with ARM. Apple shock the world with M1, and ARM you can buy it. Even Huawei purchase the newest ARM9v.

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Thanks for informing this.

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You passed. That is most important.

Lol even you Chinese knows that US made chips are the best chips don't bullshit me. You adore Iphones. And Iphones have a major marketshare in China. Lemme correct myself *Taiwan made chips. Because Taiwan no. 1.

@@dvidfmar lol. you troll. It is now but wait until China focus and builds up chip development. Doubt China? US banned China ISS so China creates own.

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@@dvidfmar Glad you corrected yourself, because the US (my country) hasn't been the leading chip designer or manufacturer since the 1980s! Even the US automotive industry has fared better against East Asian competitors than our chip and semiconductor industry. Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan replaced the US in semiconductors by early this century, then South Korea pushed out Japan, and Taiwan replaced South Korea. Your perspective is that "once on top = always on top", yet you've acknowledged that Taiwan, with a population of +23.56 million, has replaced the US, with a population of 328.2 million. What you seem to be blissfully unaware of is that East and SE Asians and Asian Americans were disproportionately represented in the US semiconductor industry in both design and production from the 1980s onwards, and were largely responsible for our strengths relative to European rivals in this industry!😄 The skills and knowledge they developed also enabled them to jump ahead in their ancestral/home countries! Currently, despite US pressure, over 42% of Taiwan's exports by value go to the PRC, as opposed to 14% to the US. Semiconductors represent most of these exports to both nations by value. Beijing was quite comfortable with importing chips and other semiconductors designed and made by their fellow Han right on their doorstep, while Taiwan earns billions in revenue each year by exporting to the PRC, which is both far and away their largest export market, and the largest market in the world today. By forcing the PRC to shift to domestic chip and other semiconductor design and production, the US will deprive Taiwan of trillions in trade revenue, while unwittingly fostering the PRC's greater self sufficiency. Taiwan's economy is both far more dependent on exports and far smaller than that of the PRC. They don't have the PRC's huge internal market or their extremely diverse economic base, and are now dependent economically on the PRC, which won't be dependent on Taiwan for anything in the future!🤣 China now produces more STEM grads than any other nation today; 4.6 million in 2016, versus 2.7 million in India, and 568,000 in the US, according to World Economic Forum data. Unlike other nations, the US includes such easy, fake science subjects as psychology, gender studies, and sociology in our approved list of STEM fields! With such an enormous pool of talent in China, Taiwan can't compete in the long run. Now Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger is warning that "the West is too dependent on (East and SE) Asia for chips", and our Congress is panicking and planning on allocating between US$120 billion and US$190 billion to upgrade US STEM education to "better compete with China", just as they did in response to the USSR's first Sputnik launch. Too bad for those self deluding, stunningly racist fools who keep posting on social media that "the Chinese can't innovate, they can only copy and steal".

@@motherlandbot6837 This good wu mao cut and paste, but kind of like every other post I read from wu mao. Why don't you guys come up with anything new? I learn a lot from motherland bot, not.

Agreed. The housing boom is a bubble, same for the rest of the world but the problem is biggest in China. I think the CCP can handle it if they start treating the problem. They deffinitely see the problem. Not so easy to fix as property is a key driver of growth.

It will drive up costs of everything and suppress competitiveness.

Go away with Silicon.

Anh china is sucked

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You mispelled "stealing IPs and crashing down prices to destroy competition wrong". CCP is cancer of humankind.

Totally Agreed. China is Playing --Catch Up by using Silicon Chips as Processors. China should LEAP FROG into a NEW kind of Processor like what you have suggested. And I believe they are doing SO ...... QUITELY!!!

Care to elaborate further?

@@kokkintang9983 that a multi billion answer and like to tell you but confidentiality. But everyone know that semiconductors is very inefficient in micro levels and light is very efficient and no constraints. My research works all based on that and soon makes semiconductors just a historically.

@@hoplam9717 You will go down in histoly with great inventors like guys that invented transistol and the microplosssel

@@hoplam9717 Stop lying. Nobody have ever make a light directed semicon prototype. Just dream on.

I will share that next week. If I tell you now, you know the answer to the question I asked in the video

Glad you liked it!

If there's only one guy left in the world doing a thing you bet it's either very stupid and pointless, or it's really hard and everyone else died trying so now there's a tremendous barrier to entry. I wonder which it is for ASML. It could be both actually... First everyone think its futile and pointless, only it turned out it was not. EUV didn't come easy over night.

I watched from somewhere else that instead of using litography there's alternative to use laser, and China is pursuing both paths. Edit: quote: The new technology has broken the traditional constraint in laser direct writing (LDW) with its ability to process at the nano level. In addition to ultra-high precision, the technology also demonstrates potential for mass production.

@@user-hv4ky5kt2x Interesting, can you provide a link to this new technology or at least provide the name of this new technology?

@@markchan8110 LDW: laser direct writing.

@@markchan8110 everything else I post about the article was removed by YT. article title: China a step closer to microchip independence

No, they will keep it and use the card later.

That's like the final option. Because it's risky to trigger war. I doubt china want a war now. Remember the bristist who attack china just because of tea?! They would do the same for rare earth material.

In theory yes, but strangely enough it would hurt China almost as much as the West, as West is buying lots of products from China with those rare earth's too. Not the big gain they need to leapfrog ahead of U.S. and would create even more tensions and U.S. would invest massively in rare earth again then. The reason the West did not do that is because its a dirty polluting industry. I doubt this will happen, but it could be a last resort for China if ban increases.