Passenger Carrying Garden Railways

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10 жыл бұрын

Made in 1989 this was my first home-grown venture as 'Festival Video'. It starts with an interview with Maxitrak's Andy Probyn giving an overview of the company and its then products - the success and continued expansion of the company now ranks it as probably the major player in the supply of miniature railway equipment. This is followed by a visit to Kent Laverty's 5" gauge line at Lyminge, situated very near the trackbed of the long lost Elham Valley Railway, which shows just how much you can get in a small space. David Best's long closed 'Greenfields' 7¼" gauge line was home to the mighty Dolphur, seen her in steam. The 'Wayside Light Railway' is very much operated on narrow gauge priciples and is seen during a busy, and rare, public open day. Another now closed line is Peter Howards 'Stoneleigh House Railway' where his collection of 10¼" gauge locos are seen in steam. Finally a visit to the ultimate garden railway, the 2ft gauge 'Bredgar & Wormshill'. Anyone who knows the railway now will be delighted to see how much it has changed in the last 25 years.

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@Metalguy40 4 жыл бұрын

Ah. Good old VHS quality. I’ll always love it. Much like I do with these engines

@Glum1964 2 жыл бұрын

That is so adorable at 27:00, that family that each went to different spots along the railway to simulate stops on the line. Just for the video! How sweet! I bet that railroad- and the kind of people who love them- have made that a healthy, fun family. Good on them.

@schutendohkji548 8 жыл бұрын

Love the switching actions on the 2ft gauge equipment.

@stanthesteam 10 жыл бұрын

Superb. I did have this (excellent) film on video until we moved house it was lost in transit. Many thanks for posting. Stan

@legiontheatregroup 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for making this film. I purchased it on VHS in the mid 1990s and have watched it more times than I can remember. I’m in the USA so I would otherwise never have gotten to see these wonderful miniature railways. Really enjoy your camera work and narration.

@DerekSmith1949 5 жыл бұрын

Many thanks for your kind comment. Glad you enjoyed it, it all seems so long ago now :-)

@atombombproductions2118 10 жыл бұрын

wow, I am such a procrastinator. I have always wanted my own railway, but never tried to get one. superb video.

@patrickmcneilly4293 10 жыл бұрын

I would say derpy but nah :P

@justincowgill8875 5 жыл бұрын

This is my motivation to become a millionaire.

@devvydoesstuff 3 жыл бұрын

lol same

@wesbrackmanthercenthusiast4695 3 жыл бұрын

You could just have a farm and use them for moving goods

@hondaxl250k0 Жыл бұрын

Na not a millionaire. Just don’t have a wife or kids.. you will be set. Have your fun. For most working men you can have a family or toys. But we can’t afford both.

@CaptBubble 9 жыл бұрын

Great video, thanks. We visited the lovely Bredgar and Wormshill Light Railway recently.

@robertrockwell7581 2 жыл бұрын

man that 2 foot gauge would be fun.

@theventuracountyrailfan Жыл бұрын

This was my childhood

@allanegleston13 10 жыл бұрын

in the states wed call this , live steam. some excellent railways :)

@begudmaximan953 Жыл бұрын

I particularly favour the 10+1/4" gauge as being ideal as a comfortably sized passenger rider without being over bulky nor too compilcated, each to their own preference I guess! Such a variety of miniature gauges being available to choose from is certainly impressive. A well put together video, top marks.😊

@schutendohkji548 8 жыл бұрын

I like that Samuel in the Wheatbread toaster the best! Thank you for the video.

@joshneville8254 4 жыл бұрын

Schuten Dohkji in this computer age he says as a thumper comes past 😂😂

@stephencook1395 9 жыл бұрын

Driving truck now complete, based on Ride on Railways chassis. Passenger truck underway. Now all on its way to the new location. Track laying starting later this year.

@mitchmatthews6713 4 жыл бұрын

This is just TOO COOL!

@EpicNotch 7 жыл бұрын

in our computer age? you aint seen nothing yet!

@aboxashimov5615 8 жыл бұрын

so cool i like these trains!!!!!

@Basset86Trains09 Жыл бұрын

31:20 that’s how you perfect a coupling

@TheHampshireHopper92 5 ай бұрын

The garden raikway(the first one) is still in situ but looks like it’s hardly ever used. Looking a bit overgrown in places now.

@TheHampshireHopper92 5 ай бұрын

The garden raikway(the first one) is still in situ but looks like it’s hardly used now and a bit overgrown. Don’t know when it was last used.

@themainnerd0566 6 жыл бұрын

sorry, I am building a 4-6-2 Tender engine

@angelsone-five7912 4 жыл бұрын

Having done some market research I can confirm that no matter what the gauge this is still the preserve of the well to do.

@DerekSmith1949 4 жыл бұрын

Not so - of course if you want a big set up like this then you do need a lot of money, but there are smaller lines around ordinary domestic gardens that have cost less than £2k. The second hand market for smaller lines equipment is still quite bouyant. I started my own small railway when I lived on the Romney Marsh for about £800 - people spend that quite happily on a computer but that's nowhere near as much fun.

@haroldpearson6025 3 жыл бұрын

No, you can join a local model engineer club and use their track. Setting up to build a steam loco can be expensive or if you prefer shop around and purchase a loco. I built my first loco, a Tich, when I was 12/15 in the 1950s. I still have that engine.

@stephencook1395 9 жыл бұрын

Well my 5" gauge railway is underway, at least my first loco is built, based on a 5" chassis from Maxitrak, with 5 metres of track indoors at the moment, pending a move.

@Apollo_Vanron 3 жыл бұрын

How is working out for you now?

@_TheJp_ 4 жыл бұрын

I would vote for 7 1/4 My build would be: Covered loco + covered passenger wagon + open passenger wagon + flat empty wagon. Always light on and red back signal . :D

@phill7651 7 жыл бұрын

Nice little video.

@SamSitar 7 жыл бұрын

how do garden railway points (switches) work?

@Dutcharmytent 6 жыл бұрын

Great video

@themainnerd0566 6 жыл бұрын

30:52. I am building a 4-4-2 tender engine in this scale

@WorthlessNickores 7 ай бұрын

The sound of a steam train goes: Chew chew (horn) choke an ick or, choke an ick or (faster and faster)

@williamarmstrong5809 3 жыл бұрын

narrator: building a rideable garden railway is within the reach of most people. average price of 5 inch steam loco: £7000

@DerekSmith1949 3 жыл бұрын

A battery diesel in 5" gauge is these days about £1300, which I think still makes it affordable.obviously if you want to go to steam it is more expensive, but for most starters the route is via battery.

@stuartcompton1620 4 жыл бұрын

Re the 7 1/4in Dholpur 2-8-4T at Greenfields, what was the origin of that particular loco? Was it based on the 5in gauge Kennions drawings?

@jernejfunkl8300 7 жыл бұрын

At 1:28 i saw white Yugo :) !! This is Yugoslavian build car in mid 80... LOL :)

@DerekSmith1949 7 жыл бұрын

yes it was mine. A local garage was selling them so we bought two - one for me and one for my wife.

@jernejfunkl8300 7 жыл бұрын

Very interesting.Ihope that you enjoy with him.I did not know that this car was also exists in the UK :)

@DerekSmith1949 7 жыл бұрын

It didn't last for long in the UK but it was a fun car to drive.

@marcolorenzosupnet9321 6 жыл бұрын

I'm not crying

@CrystallisedEntertainment 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Derek, Do you happen to know what happened to Greenfields' Petrol-Electric locomotive after the railway closed?

@DerekSmith1949 2 жыл бұрын

Other than it was sold on I don't know where it went. I did ask David but he couldn't remember but thinks it was sold at least once more after he sold it. I'll ask him again next time I see him but don't hold out much hope.

@megajeremiel 10 жыл бұрын

Technically you can build a garden railway over a weekend if you want a small layout but if it is a big one then that's a different story

@wooltman 10 жыл бұрын

Hi Derek.Excellent video,most of the railways I hadn't heard of how long ago was it taken?Cheers Chris.

@DerekSmith1949 10 жыл бұрын

I filmed it in 1989 - Since then the Stoneleigh House and Greenfields lines have closed, whilst Maxitrak, Bredgar and The Wayside have gone on to bigger and better things.

@Alarmkid23 4 жыл бұрын

@@DerekSmith1949 what happed to the lyminge line did it ever open to the public?? also the speed limit in the Wroxham directions approaching the crossings at belaugh green and sprats green is now just walking pace (2mph) due to blind visibility. in the alysham direction its still the 5MPH limit at both crossings

@matthewpeter 10 жыл бұрын

that Dolphur is a beast isn't it

@DerekSmith1949 10 жыл бұрын

Yes it is - there was also a 5" gauge version floating around at some point. Last time I saw it the loco was at Bentley.

@matthewpeter 10 жыл бұрын

Derek Smith there's quite a number of 5" versions about, Reeves sell the castings. Really superb video Derek.

@riggstwenty2 3 жыл бұрын

I want one !

@DerekSmith1949 3 жыл бұрын

Start saving now then :-)

@bertrumbumfishfuker2400 7 жыл бұрын

thats numberwang

@haroldpearson6025 3 жыл бұрын

There over 200 model engineering clubs in UK most will have tracks that accommodate 3.5/5 & 7.25in gauge locos. The problem is its a dieing hobby as youngsters not interested.

@DerekSmith1949 3 жыл бұрын

That problem has always been there. I can't remember a time when young people played a very active part. One of the problems is that it is still a compativly expensive hobby - even with a reasonaly priced 5" gauge diesel like the Maxitrak Ruston you would still have to find club membership fees, transport to and from the club track etc. That's an outlay of over £1,000. True you may be able to join a club as a junior member and take advantage of a club loco but I never see a club actively trying to promote junior membership to a wide audience.

@nbc_uk 4 жыл бұрын

Very nice and inspiring video. Are there any out and back 7.25 lines in the UK, or are they all circuits?

@DerekSmith1949 4 жыл бұрын

I can't really answer that with any certainty - I'm sure all the public ones I know are continuous circuits. I think there are some lines in private gardens that might, due to space contstraints be out and back, but that's about it.

@davidbradt6202 6 жыл бұрын

I could make one the only part that I can't do is the cylinders and axles why are they so expensive?

@SidneyPratt 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

@ewaeesmachines693 6 жыл бұрын

Im only 12 but I still aspire to build my own garden railway. Im just afraid that I may not have enough money when im older

@DerekSmith1949 6 жыл бұрын

Military Nerd. It needed be expensive - we all had to start somewhere and there's lots of 5"gauge ground level lines about. Don't give up hope.

@ewaeesmachines693 6 жыл бұрын

Derek Smith thanks mate

@PanosSkarp 6 жыл бұрын

I'm 18 and I want to make a 10.25-12 inch guage railway like seen but public and with about 10 miles of track on a tourist heavy island here in Greece. My 3 big concerns are the liscence the will that I'll have until then and the terrain. Not many flat areas in Greece I'm afraid. Very nice video though! I wish one day I can be in one too.

@TheHampshireHopper92 6 жыл бұрын

Where was the stoneleigh house railway?

@DerekSmith1949 6 жыл бұрын

It was in the garden of a house in Sutton Road, Langley, just south of Maidstone. Long gone I'm afraid and no trace remains.

@stonesoup-bv6nn 6 жыл бұрын

Derek Smith in saskatchewan

@petea2485 8 жыл бұрын

Why did the signal man take a token from the driver?

@rogo23 7 жыл бұрын

Richard Hughes I think it's the token to use that bit of the line, so when the next train comes through, the token has to be given to that driver so he can use the track :)

@bradenkilby 6 жыл бұрын

Token work

@sj9345 6 жыл бұрын

neat!

@mheyqu22 7 жыл бұрын

👍😎

@rparker069 9 жыл бұрын

ah yes, steam rideable railways. Because who doesn't enjoy an afternoon of being blasted in the face with high temperature steam?

@Waldbahner 9 жыл бұрын

I love it :-D Don't forget the sparks and cinders... the coal black and oily hands... operating a steam locomotive, both in real size or rideable size, is real joy.

@rparker069 9 жыл бұрын

Don't get me wrong I love getting my hands dirty, I just don't really enjoy being steam blasted while trying to enjoy myself

@rparker069 9 жыл бұрын

yes but normally you get paid to do that

@rparker069 9 жыл бұрын

***** >not using diesel-electric master race with sanding >what is trains

@johnkuzma7066 6 жыл бұрын

that's the joy of it if it was clean it would be exactly like a push button start diesel.

@Trainmaster1907 7 жыл бұрын

2ft is not a model it is just a narrow gauge train

@DerekSmith1949 7 жыл бұрын

Never said it was a model. It's a two foot gauge line in someones garden that carries passengers - therefore it is a passenger carrying garden railway.

@Trainmaster1907 7 жыл бұрын

Derek Smith yah you never called it a model

@owilliams1031 5 ай бұрын

Railways of this gauge have been installed in quarries, mines, factories, and on farms. So they actually straddle the distinction between models and reality.

@BattleshipOrion 6 жыл бұрын

Lol im going into 1/8 scale and this is basic im starting off with a EMD SD40-2 abd soon after il be hiring a company to make UP 4014 RESTORED gas fueled

@bradenkilby 6 жыл бұрын

csx68 midwest and western railroad cool

@weerapatcep1839 5 жыл бұрын

where i can get these

@SuperAWaC 3 жыл бұрын

once only within reach of the wealthy, and now, once again, back only into the reach of the wealthy.

@DerekSmith1949 3 жыл бұрын

By not being too ambitious its possible to build a passenger carrying line in your garden for a reasonable amount. Ken Laverty's line at Lyminge is a case in point. There are lots of components available now to build your own battery loco and passenger coach if you can't run to a fully built system.

@SuperAWaC 3 жыл бұрын

@@DerekSmith1949 if you own property these days it makes you automatically wealthy- much of the younger generation will never be able to afford properties like the ones shown in this video at this rate.

@haroldpearson6025 3 жыл бұрын

@@SuperAWaC Join a local club

@SuperAWaC 3 жыл бұрын

@@haroldpearson6025 i already volunteer at some minature, grand and full scale railroads