The title speaks for itself. I know how I got here.
@BillyKueekSG2 жыл бұрын
Finally, I found an angle to share this on my Facebook page with 5,000 friends and my other page with 15,000 followers. Not sure how many are interested in audio equipments but hope to get more views and subs for you Lachlan.
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, Billy! All help is greatly appreciated 🙂🙏
@heavynova2 жыл бұрын
Best title ever
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
Haha. Thought I'd have some fun on this one 😁
@babaker482 жыл бұрын
I am running my HD 58x on the Earman Eagle at about 60%. Sounds pretty good. Sounds better on my desktop Zen DAC V2 but I appreciate the additional mobility. Keep up the good work Down Under.
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Robert. Yes, generally a mains powered desktop device will perform better than any USB powered devices, but as you say the mobility can be handy
@farhanchowdhury92912 жыл бұрын
Are you stacking any amp with the zen dac?
@dasninjastix2 жыл бұрын
While I do really like the Sparrow (balanced), the issue with the clicks and pops and the price point at $200 dollars makes it ultimately a regrettable purchase. I much prefer the iKKo Zerda, it's just synergizes with all my lower impedance headphones. The sound is more "artificial" from the Zerda, no question, but it's just a price to performance monster. I just wrote Earmen asking what the process would be for getting those replacement cables for us early adopters. I'll update this comment when they respond. Awesome video, really appreciate you taking the time to fondle as many dongles as you could get your hands on!
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
Haha. Happy to fondle the dongles for you! I hope (and expect) that EarMen will sort it out for you. My unit is noise free these days. You're right though that the ITM01 is brilliant for the price. I just received the xDuoo Link which is priced similarly. It's a shame it didn't get here for the fondle, but I'll put it up against the ITM01 soon...
@jimmyd72892 жыл бұрын
@@PassionforSound How did you eliminate the EMI noise? I've had my Sparrow for well over a year and I can't seem to resolve this issue. I received the replacement cable from Earmen which didn't fix the problem and I also purchased a high quality shielded OEOTG Digital Cable from OE Audio but that hasn't worked either.
@dasninjastix2 жыл бұрын
@@PassionforSound I think I scooped up the Xduoo Link v1 for about $40 dollars US when it was first released. it'll occasionally disconnect on its own, regardless of if the cable is jostle it'll just stop playback and have to be reconnected. Sound-wise I like it a lot, and unlike the Zerda or the Sparrow, I never get any clicks, pops, and snaps. It seems like phone USB inputs aren't great at handling dongles that siphon power. All my dongles seem to work flawlessly with my laptop but between 3 phones ever single one has connection problems. I need to try a battery based one but the last thing I need is another dongle.
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
That's interesting. I've found the opposite - that many of these dongles don't play nice with my laptop. I get volume control issues (like full volume from nowhere!) and one of the ones in this review started skipping tracks on me (can't recall which one). It might vary from phone to phone and computer to computer
@Soundoverload2 жыл бұрын
@@PassionforSound uhhh I cant wait for the Xduoo Link V2 Bal (I guess that`s the one you review) ..looks like a beast on paper
@04yellowjacket2 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up just for the title alone. I am fondling my dongle (DDHiFi TC35 PRO) right now.
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
I never thought I'd end up with THAT kind of channel... 🤣🤣
@rvenden2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and helpful analysis, Lachlan. Thank you for your excellent work. As I watched, I was struck by how much time the research and analysis must have taken, especially given the number of dongles and the thoroughness and thoughtfulness of your work. Thanks again. Roger in Wisconsin
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it, Roger! Yes, this one took a fair amount of work, but I thought it would make for a helpful comparison point. 🙂
@omegadoge92352 жыл бұрын
Me: I have a passable desktop setup suitable for a wide range of headphones and IEMs, so I only really need "okay" sound on the go. I'm not even going out much, if at all. And so, I only really need a $30 Jcally JM40 dongle that I have now for on-the-go purposes. Also me after watching: Gotta keep my eyes peeled for when the E1DA 9038D goes on sale lol. Really digging these battle-type vids. Efficient way of reviewing and comparing multiple products. Thanks for the review!
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure! I hope you find that E1DA special soon! 🙂
@sogeking93952 жыл бұрын
I know you can't review them all but my Helm Audio Bolt is a beast and made me regret buying all three Audio quests. I am glad they found homes and I recovered some money.
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
I'm keen to check out the Bolt at some point. I think I emailed them, but got not response IIRC
@sogeking93952 жыл бұрын
@@PassionforSound If you get a chance to review one I think you will like it. Darko seemed to like it and I certainly love mine.
@mikemajors23852 жыл бұрын
Thumb up just for the Title.
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
Haha. Glad you liked it 😁
@st200ol2 жыл бұрын
Would be great to listen/watch fondle 2 the sequel with L&P W2, PAW S2, EarMen Colibri and Cayin RU6.
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
The Cayin RU6 is coming soon, but I'm not sure I can gather all of them together at the same time again - it was a bit of a unique opportunity
@lanemiddleton92 жыл бұрын
No Lotoo Paw S1 or S2 ? My experience with the S1 has been positive, with 4.4 balanced input yielding better sonics over the 3.5. Happy listening 👂🏼
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
I am yet to find a contact where I can get access to Lotoo gear for reviews. Hopefully that will change because they have an excellent reputation.
@matusjurcik69742 жыл бұрын
Finally someone is doing pee51. U are my hero :D. Good roundup👌. So the shanling the q1 defeated the eagle in ur opinion. Does it mean that the q1 is on par with the pee51 or earmen sparrow?
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
Because the Q1 is single ended only, it's hard to compare with the Sparrow, but I'd say it's probably about the same as the PEE51 or maybe a touch better.
@catminister33272 жыл бұрын
Alright so here's a bit of an update on the problem described below. I'm not sure why this has worked and continues to work but it does. I bought a USB C splitter off Amazon Australia which allows me to charge my S21 Ultra while listening to music by way of the Hidizs S9 Pro dongle. No more worries about battery drain. So, I plugged the splitter into the phone, plugged the USB C cable provided by Hidizs into the splitter, plugged the other end of that cable into the S9 Pro and bingo green light comes on...
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. That's a bit weird, but glad you got it working!
@Metguy123 Жыл бұрын
What was the issue? Also mind linking to the usb-c splitter? Cheers mate. Happy Christmas!
@stuka782 жыл бұрын
Using e1da 9038d here as DAC only, feeding a magni3+ with fostex t50rp argon mk3; and an apple usbC dongle dac for hd58x, in the office. I’m surely a dongle dac aficionado :-)
@DGardn1002 жыл бұрын
What is the difference in SQ as a DAC only as opposed to a DAC/amp?
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
It will depend on the amp you're using, but a better amp will generally provide better detail retrieval, imaging and sometimes dynamics too
@stuka782 жыл бұрын
@@DGardn100 dongle DAC and desktop DAC might have different performance when it comes to crosstalk due to the Architecture inside
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
That's a good point too.
@TF2ReplayMaker2 жыл бұрын
I almost pulled the trigger on the Sparrow... But some users commenting are still saying the EMI issues are persisting. For me personally that's a risk too huge to take for the asking price of the Sparrow. Such a shame because I really badly want to experience its sound
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
That's definitely a shame if they're still having EMI problems. Such a great device otherwise, but I agree that it's a big risk of you get noise constantly
@arondyte3182 жыл бұрын
Hope you could review the FiiO KA3 dongle (FiiO’s very 1st dongle DAC) as well as I keep hearing great things about it recently :)
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
I'll see if I can get my hands on one (FiiO is tricky for me)
@ionescugeorge20032 жыл бұрын
I A/B tested KA3 on the 3,5mm output vs my E1DA 9038D and Fiio M11 pro. KA3 was so far behind E1da it’s no competition. The bass i heavier on KA3, but with less punch, less control and less texture. The dinamics, control, speed, punch, details and soundstage of E1da absolutely crush ka3, but maybe the 4,4mm is another story. E1da 9038d is not for off my M11 pro overall, the dinamics are a little better on m11, soundstage is bigger and better, and m11 pro sounds more natural, but e1da is way more close to m11 than ka3 on 3,5mm is from e1da. Testing was done with Fiio FH7, Hifiman He4xx and also using the dongles as a dac for my active speakers.
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your comparison!
@jonathanr28302 жыл бұрын
Good one to help me sort things out! Thank you very much!
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help! I've just written notes up on the next Great Dongle Fondle too so stay tuned...
@jonathanr28302 жыл бұрын
@@PassionforSound I definitely look forward to watching.
@carlsitler90712 жыл бұрын
My impression of the S9 Pro is similar to yours on the S9. The unbalanced output doesn't add anything except power.
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experiences of the Pro!
@scmobiclayton94392 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure
@stanmah57212 жыл бұрын
Awesome review. Nice job!
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@JogieGlenMait162 жыл бұрын
Ikko and S3 Pro. They're readily available for me locally and poor people like me can buy them for sure. 😂
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
Haha. Check out the xDuoo Link V2 as well. I've got a review coming and it's excellent
@lorenzocriscuolo78692 жыл бұрын
No mention of audioquest dragonfly red or cobalt?
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
I don't have them anymore unfortunately, but it's a good point. I used to own the Red and Cobalt, but they were surplanted by the Eagle and Sparrow respectively. I've compared them in the Eagle and Sparrow reviews if you're interested
2 жыл бұрын
The Eagle may sound good, but with that USB-A connector it doesn't look like an ideal device for use with a phone. Modern phones have USB-C connectors, so you'll need an adapter to plug it in, and a straight-up adapter rather than a cable would leave you with a big thing sticking awkwardly out of your phone. It would be great for use with a laptop, however, except one of the new models that only has USB-C ports. I have a HiDizs S3 Pro that I bought from the crowdfunding campaign and I've been happy with it. Its tiny size makes it easy to throw in my purse and carry all the time; it lives there along with a pair of IEMs. It may have ranked on the bottom in your test but it's great for my use case. Would I like the ITM01 better? Maybe. I know you liked the sound better, but it is larger. I don't think it's enough of an upgrade to justify the cost of switching.
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
The Eagle comes with a USB-C to female USB-A cable so no worries there, but I agree it's not as convenient as the USB-C native devices. The S3 Pro is certainly great for its price if you're looking for that compact, do-it-all (incl. MQA) device
@SpaceEncounter2 жыл бұрын
Great review but you should have included the Hidizs S9 Pro with balanced output and the new Cayin RU6 R2R DAC.
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
I think I explained in the review why I could only include what was available. One day, when the channel is larger and makes some money I will be able to afford to buy all the gear, but I'm not there yet ☹️
@victormedrano23162 жыл бұрын
@@PassionforSound But you will :)
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Victor
@Rasterized12 жыл бұрын
Great overview, though surprised not to see any audioquest dongles in here
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
Good point about the AudioQuest dongles. I owned and loved the Dragonfly Red and Cobalt, but they were both superseded for me by the Eagle and Sparrow respectively. I covered those comparisons in my reviews of the Eagle and Sparrow of you'd like to hear my thoughts on the differences.
@Rasterized12 жыл бұрын
@@PassionforSound perfect, will do
@skyhero1888 Жыл бұрын
Hiby FC4 is the Best !
@PassionforSound Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I completely agree, but it's amazing value for money given the power it provides!
@s7v7nfiv5 Жыл бұрын
Hidisz S3 pro vs fiio ka1 Thanks in advance
@PassionforSound Жыл бұрын
I don't have the KA1 so can't comment - sorry
@vishistaryan3883 Жыл бұрын
Hi Sir ! I need a dongle dac for Meze 99 Classics and I'm stuck between the Earmen Eagle, A&K PEE51 and Moondrop Dawn 3.5 mm. Which one of these should I buy or I need something else? I listen mainly to classical orchestral pieces. Thanks!!
@PassionforSound Жыл бұрын
I haven't tried all of these, but the Eagle is excellent and a safe bet.
@garybennett78352 жыл бұрын
Ì use the original zerda with a galaxy 6 tablet and Mangrid tea earphones which sound great !
@combataran2 жыл бұрын
The Dongle Great Fondle
@daysofgrace29342 жыл бұрын
I use the E1DA 9038d with the Sundaras', a laptop and equalised by Equalizer APO & Peace at full pelt I don't really want to go louder p.s. I like my BASS
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a fantastic setup!
@daysofgrace29342 жыл бұрын
@@PassionforSound Would you happen to have any videos for tube amps to power low impedance planars like the Sundara? Something beginner level, under £450?
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
For sure! They're not pure tube amps (they're a hybrid design), but check out my review of the xDuoo MT-601, MT-602 and MT-604. If you search KZfaq for "passion for sound mt-604" it'll pop right up
@dehydro2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you for the review! edit: enjoyed the fondling jokes too lol
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
Lol. Glad you liked it! 😁
@SkeledroMan2 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested to see what you think of the Luxury and Precision W2 Dongle. I compared it to the E1DA 9038S and came out preferring the E1DA. I think it came down to the W2 using a cirrus chip rather than the superior ESS chip in the 9038S.
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
I haven't tried any L&P gear for years now. If be keen to try one too. The Cirrus chips are also excellent. The iBasso DX300 uses them and that's a beast. So often it's more about the power supply filtering and the output stage. The E1DA is pretty tough to beat though. It's even outperformed a desktop unit in an upcoming review I've just finished recording
@SkeledroMan2 жыл бұрын
@@PassionforSound For me cirrus, burr brown, and AKM have always sounded worse than a well implemented ESS chip
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
I definitely have a soft spot for ESS chips too. Cirrus tend to be my second favourite though 🙂
@villageroma2 жыл бұрын
@@SkeledroMan actually it’s you mate. The best desktop dacs are using Cirrus Logic and Burr Brown. Literally nothing on earth sounds better than those.
@audiofile11782 жыл бұрын
I had EMI issues with Sparrow and returned it but from the limited time I had listened to it, I could tell it sounded really good for it's price and the build and size was great too. If possible, could you try and review the Cayin RU6? I have not had the chance to listen to an R2R DAC and I'm curious if the RU6 retains the R2R sound.
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the early Sparrow units had some big problems with EMI. I have an RU6 coming soon so stay tuned 🙂
@user-ht1gu3qq2l Жыл бұрын
Can E1DA 9038D handle 470ohm headphone?
@PassionforSound Жыл бұрын
It will depend on the sensitivity of the headphones, but having enough voltage might be a problem.
@mdrumt Жыл бұрын
I'm looking for one but want it to also be a mic in, do any do this? For something that is likely used on the go with a phone, seems like a lot of them don't offer this.
@PassionforSound Жыл бұрын
Many of the wired dongles lack this. I think there are a few around, but I can't remember which ones
@mdrumt Жыл бұрын
Seems the Creative x-fi does, investigating.
@PassionforSound Жыл бұрын
Hope it's a good option for you
@JustBrowsing7772 жыл бұрын
Good review, I would have loved to hear it like 2 months ago. I recently bought the S9 Pro. 200mw over the 2,5mm to drive my Focal Elegia using the Samsung S21 Ultra was was part of why. Plus I only payed about 80USD for it.... Now that you tested all of those, which one would you have matched with my Focals? I use the combo for office use.
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
I haven't heard the S9 Pro, but from those I've spoken to about it, it's an excellent device. For $80 USD I think it's hard to beat and likely only the more expensive EarMen Sparrow would offer significant improvement.
@johnshore30952 жыл бұрын
I have a pair of TIN P1s so plan to get an S9 Pro for the power via balanced cables.
@jeffeaker43422 жыл бұрын
'm listening too with the S90 pro $116 amazon, with my Focal Elegia through balanced mode and it sounds fantastic. Not a huge difference compared to my Bifrost 2/Monolith amp....
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
I haven't tried the S9 Pro (assuming that's what you meant?) but I've read lots of good things about it
@Branje112 жыл бұрын
I have the E1DA 9038D now for more than a year and I am very satisfied with this Dac, but I am wondering if it would be a good upgrade to buy the new SMSL 500D mkII Dac. I listen with a Sennheiser HD 650 and stream Qobuz over Audirvana on my PC.
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
The 9038D is fantastic, but a full-sized DAC/amp like the SMSL will be a very significant upgrade
@memoli8012 жыл бұрын
Like your style thanks Qestion: How can reviewers prays this audio devices endless, specs tops most same priced non dongle with 32bit 7xxkhz, MQA, DSD or balanced out put?
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
I don't understand the question. Can you rephrase it for me?
@memoli8012 жыл бұрын
@@PassionforSound The question bothering me is following; Lets say, my soon arriving Fiio KA3 is been said to be detailed, powerfull and all the other adjectives they can find for. But the same stuff is said about devices like lets say Schiit Magni and co. too. So can you say , all this tiny stuff been produced this days do beat or at leased pull equal to desktop solutions? I got IEMs and a Hifiman with 37 Ohms 97db, super easy to drive and this little babys can drive 300 Ohm. Why still buying expensive stuff when this incredible devices do 32Bit 768khz, MQA, DSD512 and got also balanced out put?? You knwo what I m saying?
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
I understand now - thank you. As you go up in size and price (i.e. a desktop device vs a dongle), the quality does improve because of the ability to improve things like power supplies and output stages which both use capacitors and larger capacitors can provide better quality due to being less constrained by size requirements. Also, having separate power supplies rather than using USB power will also improve the sound. There is a lot that goes into making great sounding products and the specs and measurements don't tell the whole story. Hopefully that makes sense.
@memoli8012 жыл бұрын
@@PassionforSound I wish I could give you a heart too! I have been told that the power supply can have more impact on sound quality than a DAC it self. Believable, consider where the sound comes from (interferences in Mobile and PC). Unfortunately I dont hear a lot of youtubers mention that 😞 ...but would you compare devices of this two worlds?
@matthewhilty42092 жыл бұрын
This may be a bizarre question but which little dongle made you "chair dance" . For example I have 2 desktop amps a Mjolnir2 and a THX789 with the Burson power adapter. The Mjolnir2 has a tendency to make me "chair dance" while the THX789 has excellent punch and impact great for Electronic and EDM. I really like both but in the end I usually prefer the one that makes me want to wiggle and lose myself in the moment.
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
It's a great question! It's one of the reasons I love the NextDrive Spectra X - it's got a really engaging sense of drive and rhythm. So that's probably my answer, but the EarMen dongles are excellent and enjoyable too as it's the A&K. I'd probably avoid the S9 for danceability and might take the S3 Pro over the Ikko on that metric too although the Ikko is more dynamic while the S3 Pro is a little warmer which can help with the fun factor
@sukhvindermangat10872 жыл бұрын
Any plans on testing out the Violectric Chronos? I have to replace my LG phone soon so I've been learning about these dongles looking for a compact dac, I'm leaning towards the EarMen sparrow from the AQ Cobalt and thinking about the new one EarMen is coming out with priced around $300 and it has it's own power supply... I'm not quite an audiophile, but I can get balanced cables for my Shure 215's and the rest of my headphones are 3.5 so I've been going back and forth trying to pick the "right" one lol Have companies made U shaped usb-C adaptors specifically for these dacs to pair onto phones?
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
It's unlikely I'll get to try the Chronos - sorry! The EarMen team are certainly excited about the new DAC, but I don't know much about it yet other than the fact that it's coming. I believe there are some short, u-shaped USB cables around. Maybe try searching Amazon and/or Ali Express for "short OTG cable" or something similar and see what you find
@sakabatou2 жыл бұрын
I tried the E1DA a bit over a year ago, during peak hype. Of course, there was no way to control the volume on iOs without specific software, so I returned it immediately
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
That's a bummer with iOS. It is magic on an Android with USB Audio Player Pro.
@joshbarron32 жыл бұрын
Hi Lachlan, your channel has informed me on the purchase of Hifiman Sundara, Ikko OH10 IEM, and Earmen Eagle DAC for the best value audio setup I would need. Thank you! Enjoyed this dongle DAC comparison too :) If I ever wanted to spend more money in the future, would adding Schiit Asgard 3 & Schiit Bifrost 2 be a mind blowing leap to invest in? (Currently use a £129 Audioengine D1 from my PC).
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
So glad I've been able to help and that sounds like a great chain you've got now! The Asgard & Bifrost will be a massive leap forward from what you're used to. I'd highly recommend that if you get the chance 🙂
@joshbarron32 жыл бұрын
@@PassionforSound I almost convinced myself that Asgard & Bifrost would be a worthwhile purchase, but for me, as tempting as it is to get carried away with wanting more, I struggle to believe that it would make that much of a difference in the enjoyment of music so decided this is my end game (for now ha). Hifiman Sundara £299 (now £269 on amazon) excellent - would recommend to anyone, even someone that was just a general music listener, none audiophile. You want good music? Save up, it's worth it. Audioengine D1 DAC £129, small on the desk, volume pot seperate from Windows to adjust volume, pre-out to speakers that mutes when headphones are plugged in, AK4396 DAC. Owned it for 6 years. Ikko OH10 IEM bought at a good deal for £140 & Earmen Eagle DAC £109 for top value portable listening. Total I've spent = £677. Asgard 3 + Bifrost 2 = £945. Colossal money! I will continue to enjoy your in-depth videos that have also helped me understand that as you go up in price point, you get small percentage improvements that do add up, but for me likely at too high a cost when I already enjoy the sound I've got now plenty. Cheers!
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
I think that's great that you're focussing more on your enjoyment of the music than the pursuit of perfect sound (which doesn't exist). Great job and thanks for watching and commenting!
@iftekharahamad48402 жыл бұрын
Helm Bolt review
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
It all depends on what I can get access to 🙂
@Spelaus2 жыл бұрын
Hi there! have you tried the dongle Lotto Paw S1? is in the same level as the Earman Sparrow? (in the 4.4 balance output? Thanks! and great reviews!
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
I haven't yet, but would like to. I just have to find somewhere I can borrow one... 🙂
@MichaelBertolino2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm. Wish the S9 Pro was covered in this video. Amirn showed it was better than the E1DA and the EarMen products, which is why I bought it
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
Sorry. I could only get what was available secondhand around that time. As for Amir's measurements, the only thing his measurements will ever show is how much power and how much (or how little) distortion. Sadly, this will never tell you how a device actually sounds. For instance, the Topping EX5 measures great, but sounds flat and lifeless. That doesn't mean the S9 Pro can't be great (I haven't tried it), but be careful buying based on measurements. 🙂
@markpaulson13462 жыл бұрын
How do you like it?
@MichaelBertolino2 жыл бұрын
@@markpaulson1346 I love it! It's been amazing with my 2020 Sundaras so far!
@markpaulson13462 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelBertolino thanks for the reply! I think you helped me just make my decision!
@MichaelBertolino2 жыл бұрын
@@markpaulson1346 No problem! It's really one of if not the best portable amp/dac combos that somehow also manages to beat some desktop amps ans dacs as well
@handlemonium2 жыл бұрын
Nice round up! There's 2 newer ones now: Fiio KA3 (S9 Pro/9038D killer @ $80?) and Cayin RU6 (pocketable R2R quality).......other solid players too like the Audioquest Dragonfly series, THX Onyx, and Xduoo Link 2 👍
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
I've got the Link v2 and RU6 coming up VERY soon 🙂 Glad you liked the roundup
@deadline76102 жыл бұрын
Nicely Done. I wonder how these dongles compare to the qudelix 5 or the btr5 or others wired (sound wise) Is it the 5-10% bump or a bit more ? Thanks
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
I've got reviews of the old BTR5 and Shanling UP4 which might provide some indication. When using wired, devices like the BTR5 can outperform many dongles because of the internal battery power, but they're bulkier so it's a trade-off.
@ionescugeorge20032 жыл бұрын
E1da 9038D outperforms the old and new BTR5 connected via USB, it’s really no contest. E1da is way more controlled, more detailed, has a wider and deeper soundstage, better layering. Even a BTR3k sounds more natural because it has a akm chip, but it’s a must to use the balanced output.
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
@tinostarks2 жыл бұрын
have you had a chance to test the Periodic Audio Rhodium ?
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
I hadn't actually heard of it until now - there's so much gear to keep track of
@alexmiller27522 жыл бұрын
I was hoping for Hidizs S9 pro to be in the mix but unfortunately it wasn't. Hoping a review for you for it soon. But as a side question; I will get HD6xx and SMSL-SP200 amp soon but I mainly listen on my PC and since PC's audio might not be good, so I was wondering how would a PC + a Dongle DAC => SMSL-SP200 => HD6xx set up would be better in terms of better sound quality as oppose to PC=>SMSL=>HD6xx? I am just looking for a cheapest option for DAC (only if it significantly improves decoding over PC's generic decoding) that can go well with SMSL-SP200+HD6xx. Hoping for helpful reply! And of course keep up the good work!
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
Hi Alex, the addition of a DAC will definitely help so I'd recommend getting something like the E1DA, Eagle, etc. (S9 Pro is probably a good option, but I'm yet to try it). As for the amp, if you haven't bought it yet, I'd recommend against the SP200. Something like a Topping L30 would be a better choice.
@alexmiller27522 жыл бұрын
@@PassionforSound Thank you so much for replying. SP200 is already ordered from drop because it was for 140$ instead of 200+$ that it goes for elsewhere. But now topping L30 is also on my list because of your recommendation. I will wait for your review of S9 Pro if you have that in your to-do list. if its recommended over E1DA and Eagle than I'll go for it else it will be either E1DA or Eagle And thank you for recommending E1DA and Eagle for my use case with amp + HD6xx.
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
I don't currently have the S9 Pro planned for review, but you never know... At the price you paid, the SP200 isn't a bad option, but if you can flip it for an L30 at some point, I do think the L30 is preferable.
@alexmiller27522 жыл бұрын
@@PassionforSound L30 is now in my list. Thank you :)
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure
@mrcrunch80002 жыл бұрын
Mentioned this being about "budget" dongles and then said $59 is the cheapest one. That's all I needed to hear to know I don't need to watch this.
@laiwoh50012 жыл бұрын
Hope can review Kuang Pai plus3
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
That's one I hadn't heard of. I'll take a look...
@soundknight2 жыл бұрын
What about battery drain?
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
Sorry - too many variables for me to test that as well as sound and usability.
@catminister33272 жыл бұрын
Cant find a solution for getting the Hidizs S9 Pro to be recognized when plugged into the Samsung Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G - every other device i plug it into works immediately, every other USB C cable is recognized just not the S9 Pro DAC......and yes ive tried enabling developer mode, USB debugging etc. Contacted Hidizs ....still no help!
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
Hmmmm... That's pretty strange. Are you using a software like USB Audio Player Pro? Technically shouldn't be necessary, but worth asking
@catminister33272 жыл бұрын
@@PassionforSound tech support at Hidizs wasnt very helpful at all really, they suggested the Hiby App (which is like PLEX what i normally use) and while it allowed access to my network attached storage music library, it had absolutely no impact or effect on whether the device was recognized and made available on the S21 Ultra via the USB C port. Usually the device shows green immediately when connected to other devices like my Dell Laptop or Windows 11 PC
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry to hear that. Sounds like an issue somewhere, but I don't know what to suggest ☹️
@catminister33272 жыл бұрын
@@PassionforSound no worries, would be cool if you could get hold of a Galaxy S21 Ultra 5G and investigate on your channel might also stimulate a response from Hidizs since i have seen nothing negative or any other problems addressed anywhere online.
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
That's actually the exact phone I use, but I don't have an S9 Pro to test. My S9 (non-pro) worked flawlessly
@murraycampbell15482 жыл бұрын
I currently have a Dragonfly Red. How do the Earmens compare to that?
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
Check out my review of the EarMen Eagle for a thorough comparison. I can't remember the details now because it's been a while 🙂
@chefsteve83812 жыл бұрын
Cheapest thing apple make, is also the best thing apple make, nothing wrong with the apple dongle.. sure it's not super powerfull but its clean, just match it with the right headphones/iems...i wonder what % of people use dongles to drive headphones?
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
I'm yet to try the Apple dongle. I'm also curious about the IEM vs headphone usage proportions too
@RodneyAllanPoe2 жыл бұрын
I like my Eagle! ✅
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
They're absolutely brilliant
@bradleypariah2 жыл бұрын
Don't phones with USB-C ports already have a DAC? I'm seeing both external DACs and "adapters" on Amazon. I'm curious to hear a shootout on something like a Pixel 6 Pro, wherein we get to hear A/B audio from an adapter vs one of these powered DACs. That's truly the only way to know if something like this is worth it. Adapters only cost $10.
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
The phones don't have any DACs if there's no 3.5mm socket. The adapters actually have tiny chips built in that provide decoding of the digital signal. Basically anything that plugs into the USB socket on a phone and doesn't have external power from a wall outlet or a battery like a Mojo 2 or Colibri should be considered comparable.
2 жыл бұрын
All phones do have an internal DAC to drive the speakers. Some phones with USB-C support a mode where the internal DAC output is made available on the USB-C connector. For those you just need a passive adapter with a 3.5mm headphone jack. I once had a LeEco Le S3 phone that worked with that type of dongle, and they provided one with the phone. But only a minority of USB-C phones support that mode. It does not work with my Essential Phone or my Samsung Galaxy S21, and I know it also does not work with the Google Pixel series. For most current USB-C phones you need an active dongle with a DAC to drive wired headphones. The Essential Phone came with its own dongle (which also works on other phones), but most phones do not.
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
Great point! I totally forgot about the speakers on phones!! Thank you 😳🙂
@mdk12172633sg2 жыл бұрын
Why no one talk about FIIO KA 3 or shanling UA2 they are withing the same prise range
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
It all depends on what is made available for review. I can only assume that FiiO and Shanling are less forthcoming with review units.
@mdk12172633sg2 жыл бұрын
@@PassionforSound ok . Well if you got your hands on in one of them i hope you will make a video
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
Of course! I'll always review any products I can get that I think people will be interested in 🙂🙂
@s7v7nfiv5 Жыл бұрын
Fondle one more dongle you I will be forced to call your local authorities
@s7v7nfiv5 Жыл бұрын
Ha!
@PassionforSound Жыл бұрын
🤣
@crankiisago2 жыл бұрын
hi, what would you recommend for something warm sub $200?
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
The S3 Pro is a great choice if you want something a bit warmer. The xDuoo Link V2 is another
@crankiisago2 жыл бұрын
Tysm!
@crankiisago2 жыл бұрын
@@PassionforSound thank you. btw, which is better for O2 from the two?
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
For the O2?
@iritian2 жыл бұрын
What do you think of the Ikko Zerda for$48? I'm looking for a portable dac/amp to pair mostly the Tin Hifi T2, Moondrop Chu and Meze 99 Noir.
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
I haven't tried the original Zerda, but I've review the ITM01 version of the Zerda in a recent battle video of dongles (I don't remember which video exactly)
@iritian2 жыл бұрын
@@PassionforSound This is that video mate haha. I think I'm getting the ITM01 after watching it
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
Lol. So sorry - I didn't check the thumbnail properly to see where the comment was. 🤦♂️ The ITM01 is definitely a good option so long as you can live with the minor pops and cracks I discussed in the video when switching modes, etc. During regular playback there are no issues and great sound.
@iritian2 жыл бұрын
@@PassionforSound I've had the ITM01 for few weeks now and have enjoyed it thoroughly. It powers my planars surprisingly well and sounds wonderful. It seems the video game EQ thing is a common issue but honestly I never take it out of music mode.
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
Glad you're enjoying it. I'm like you and just leave it in music mode
@amanieux2 жыл бұрын
do you recommend such dongles for planar iem such as 7hz/s12) (low impedance but power hungry)?
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. IEMs are never that power hungry. People saying that these IEMs need full sized amplification are not accurate. I'll mention that in the upcoming Timeless review.
@amanieux2 жыл бұрын
@@PassionforSound that was also my feeling that comments that say that 7hz sound better with 1w and even better with 4w must be subject to placebo effect :) will be happy to know your most affordable dac recommendation for 7hz
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
Yep, that's complete rubbish. The Timeless need SO little power that anything so powerful can have no effect on the sound because we're listening at 1-2mW (estimated - I need to confirm) For a suitable DAC, I'd recommend the E1DA 9038S or 9038D, EarMen Eagle or EarMen Sparrow.
@farhanchowdhury92912 жыл бұрын
You can compare these with ifi go blu
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to, but I can't get demo units from the local iFi distributor ☹️
@farhanchowdhury92912 жыл бұрын
@@PassionforSound love your reviews. Hope they send it to you soon.
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Farhan. It's not going to happen unfortunately - it's a long and disappointing story
@alferro31492 жыл бұрын
Periodic Audio Rhodium, cheap and great.
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip. I haven't tried that one
@jeremywilliam792 жыл бұрын
I wish you had used the apple dongle as a baseline. for me it makes more sense because it’s $10. If I want something for desktop I can get a schiit magni for $110 that accepts three inputs. The Apple can be converted to a regular usb connection if you buy the usb c version and it’s tiny and cheap. I also don’t really get the value of these things. You can get the same capability with Bluetooth and battery for wireless use along with a fully functional app with eq control from a Qudelix 5k for $110. Just can’t imagine a reason I’d want one of these dongles.
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
It all depends on your needs. I can't afford to go and buy every possible option for review (even the $10) ones as the channel has previously only just started to break even financially. On top of that, what is a reference to you won't be a reference to everyone. Finally, the Qudelix 5k might be great (I'm yet to try one), but it's a very different type of device and form factor - it's bigger and bulkier, and is designed more for Bluetooth use than wired (even though it can do both). This roundup was about those products that are designed to go inline with earphones and be small enough that you don't really notice then. The 5k doesn't quite fit that bill.
@jeremywilliam792 жыл бұрын
@@PassionforSound I was just using that as an example. I’m still glad you did the reviews I find it interesting. I’m just saying for me personally I scratch my head on where these are the best option for anyone’s situation. Thanks for your work! Enjoy your videos.
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
Ah, gotcha. Yes, it's tough to provide everything for everyone. I see dongles like these, particularly the $100+ options as being for those wanting great, audiophile sound. Lower level devices and options like the Apple dongle in particular are more for convenience than top sound quality. Both have their place without a doubt.
@javtimestwo2 жыл бұрын
@@PassionforSound I wish you could have included the $9 Apple 3.5mm lightning to headphone jack adapter. Despite what some people believe this adapter does include a built-in DAC. Belkin also makes something similar but they are sold for around $39. There are customers like me who want to learn about the higher priced but also the budget friendly portable DAC's. Thank you!
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jav, as I said above, I can't cover every option in every review due to video length and price. I have to work with what I have on hand from suppliers, retailers and viewer/patron loans.
@SquareOFortune2 жыл бұрын
Any plans to check out the Khadas Tea when those start shipping out next month? Haven’t seen any in-hand looks other than from SnazzyLabs and Z-Reviews, and I’m extremely curious of your thoughts on it (especially compared to these dongle DAC-amps).
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
No plans as yet. It all depends on who is stocking them and able to send me one to review
@SquareOFortune2 жыл бұрын
@@PassionforSound If nobody else is able to supply you one, there’s a solid chance I might be able to mail you mine once it arrives. You could keep it as long as you want since I have some other “on-the-go” options for now. 😄
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
That would be great. Thank you for the offer 🙂🙏
@kyron422 жыл бұрын
Great review. What would be a desktop solution that would offer better value for money?
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
I don't know if there's a desktop system for the same price as a dongle that's better, but a low end stack like the E30/L30 from Topping would be comfortably better. I've also got the SMSL SU-6 and SH-6 coming soon which should be stronger and still very affordable
@DamienQuill2 жыл бұрын
I picked up the S9 Pro for 120 USD. Is the Sparrow really that better an option at 200 USD with all its documented issues?
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
I haven't tried the S9 Pro to be able to say. I do expect (based on my experiences with all EarMen products) that it will still be a bit better, but if the EMI issues are still happening then it's a concern.
@Metguy123 Жыл бұрын
Not worth the upgrade. I returned mine as the S9 pro was basically half the price and more consistent performance.
@MrAyrit2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never heard someone use the term fondle so much. Makes me a bit uncomfortable…
@PassionforSound2 жыл бұрын
I know - sorry! 😁 You should have seen all the outtakes from my attempts to keep saying it 😉
@JagadishTalluri2 жыл бұрын
I had to say this, I held for long but no more. I can see the time and effort you are invested in making the video, but there needs serious improvements in your presentation style. I have watched many off your videos and felt this. It’s very difficult to concentrate on the video because of the monotonous feel. I suggest you to use more graphical comparisons, transitions, images,text and tables. It adds more engagement. I watched this video in 2x (15 mins) with pomodoro technique to stick with you(took the effort as I value your opinion). I believe you will take this feedback with a positive and friendly spirit.
@nhennessy6434Ай бұрын
Notice how he always elongates the vowel in the last word in the sentence. Same thing John Michael Godier does. Guess it's some sort of ASMR affectation, and once noticed is irritating AF.
@jacquesn8ir2 жыл бұрын
It’s quite a pain listening to your voice. Sounds like someone pretending to be a ridiculously polite butler.
@giovannilarocca2241 Жыл бұрын
CIAO TI SCRIVO DALL' ITALIA MI PIACE IL TUO CANALE, IO VORREI UN TUO CONSIGLIO TRA 2 DAC: DAC FIIO Q3 MQA/DAC EARMEN SPARROW TU COSA COMPRERESTI? TI RINGRAZIO ANTICIPATAMENTE,ASPETTO UNA TUA RISPOSTA.
@PassionforSound Жыл бұрын
I haven't tried the Q3, but I'd expect the Sparrow to sound more articulate and detailed because the FiiO amps seem to always blunt the sound slightly and make it a bit dull or muted. Having not heard the Q3, this is just a guess though.