Still is.

That was painful to watch.

Exactly the pair of words I thought of when the word popped up: grain, Chinese.

Exactly the pair of words I thought of when the word popped up: grain, Chinese.

The word for rice that would have only needed saying once was ‘basmati’. If that didn’t work, followed by saffron. And Jack was wrong about the meaning of robust. Joan had it with ‘hearty,’ other synonyms - strong, healthy, but not hero.

@@alexrafe2590 , back then I don't think basmati would have worked. Jack Jones was not a good player

Actually icon is what she should have said. Maybe she thought iconoclast was the complete word or something. An iconoclast is someone who isn't impressed by idols.

@@chrisn7259 Legit point. I've been watching many of these old episodes, and it's clear that people, even celebrities and such, in those days honestly weren't as sophisticated or educated as even regular people today are. Your point might be part of that, or perhaps she's a rather religious person and so gravitated in the direction of idol-destruction. But certainly, Ludden's narrow focus on the word's definition was a case of this.

@@TommygunNG Yes agreed, the problem was that the contestant was trying to give a synonym for an idol, which was an icon, but added the suffix, clast, changing the meaning to a destroyer of icons. By that mistake she muddied the waters. But in her defence, it’s much easier finding exactly the right clue, and form of a clue, when you’re not being filmed for national television with only a few seconds available to do it. Allen, in his typical fashion, stepped in with another interpretation that was also wrong. I’ll give him this, he never seemed afraid of making himself look foolish, bless him. The contestants I found difficult to bear were the ones with zero recall, who kept responding just to the last given clue, while not considering that earlier clues made it obvious their answer couldn’t possibly be the word in question🙄

@@alexrafe2590 Yes. especially on the last paragraph.

And A.L. had no clue what the word "iconoclast" meant. What a doofus. How did he get a degree in "English" but not know words that surely came up in college. An Iconoclast was someone who was against the idols/statues/icons which are used in the Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholic systems. Good clue,,,, assuming the other person graduated from High School and owns a dictionary.

I’m just guessing here but all I come up with is that “bosomy” was sort of risqué for 1967 and the answer “brave” is so far off that Joan Fontaine found it funny. Who knows?

that made me laugh sooo hard

Yes. Miss Fontaine was really unfailingly polite, so was surprised she said that; I really do think she meant it in a humorous way.

@@johnfd0210 She didn't want to offend him, clearly. They made a great team.

You have to understand that the majority of people were thin in the 1960s and what we would not consider overweight today was considered fat then.

I would have given “sturdy” or “strong” as clues.

Well yes partly, the poor ones came mainly from Jack Jones, like ‘hero’, huh? Joan’s clues like ‘hearty’ and ‘strong’ were mostly pretty good.

Jack Jones gave good clues, but Joan F. totally "dropped-the-ball". Like many actresses and actors --- Clueless without a Cue card.

Martin Sheen was FAR from a household name in 1967.

@@lawsonj39 Indeed.

@@lawsonj39 And his real name is Estevez. Show-biz name change.