PAST PARADOX POKEMON FULLY EXPLAINED

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Drogane

Drogane

Күн бұрын

#paradoxpokemon #newpokemon #fakemon
PARADOX POKEMON were first introduced in the games of POKEMON SCARLET & VIOLET. PARADOX POKEMON are said to come from different times periods within the POKEMON WORLD.
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@jdx4527
@jdx4527 Жыл бұрын
The Paradox Pokemon is one of the coolest concepts in the series, I haven't been this invested in Pokemon lore since Gen 5, and yet I want more! Here's to the DLC when it drops and answers our questions.
@therealdrogane
@therealdrogane Жыл бұрын
For sure
@douglaspope-gz1eq
@douglaspope-gz1eq Жыл бұрын
I'm always down for some lore my self DLC here we come
@Knight41b
@Knight41b Жыл бұрын
On the whole no fossil records of “past” Paradox Pokémon existing thing, there is a chance that the “time periods” might actually be swapped between the game versions. Dino looking Pokémon = Post Apocalyptic ; Cyborg Pokémon = Ancient Atlantean like civilization.
@criixt
@criixt Жыл бұрын
I always head canon that the head crest and "capes" on the 3 legendary beast were the main thing while the body was interchangeable, whether it be a body of a mammal or reptile.
@therealdrogane
@therealdrogane Жыл бұрын
Fair
@loosiegoosie5229
@loosiegoosie5229 Жыл бұрын
3:50 I'm pretty sure the roaming fossil Pokemon of galar are actuality the result of modern technology reintroducing them to the environment. At that point it's been several decades since the technology was introduced
@therealdrogane
@therealdrogane Жыл бұрын
This is exactly what the professors would be doing in area zero
@TheDarkPixie99
@TheDarkPixie99 Жыл бұрын
There was a pokeball looking space junk teased in the teaser before the official trailer reveal. It’s not a stretch to think that astronomy and fossil Pokémon could be in the next academy lessons.
@therealdrogane
@therealdrogane Жыл бұрын
Possibly yes
@Toadiferous
@Toadiferous Жыл бұрын
Also worth noting that the mons who have past paradox forms based on a first stage evolution (excluding babies) are moon stone evolutions. Both Jigglypuff and Misdreavus could have looked like that in the past long before Clefairy and the moon stones came to earth and exposed them, causing them to evolve into Wigglytuff and Mismagius respectively. So that would fit into a timeline.
@bankrupt_batman
@bankrupt_batman Жыл бұрын
After playing both games, I'm convinced they're from an alternate from alternate universes. One where human are bominant and the other humans are dominant. It's like mixing jurassic world with terminator.
@therealdrogane
@therealdrogane Жыл бұрын
Interesting points
@BlueRage0
@BlueRage0 Жыл бұрын
thank you for covering this topic I appreciate it
@therealdrogane
@therealdrogane Жыл бұрын
No problem!
@Metsu_Nero
@Metsu_Nero Жыл бұрын
Didn’t the Scarlet and Violet books talk about an imaginary Pokémon being created? Maybe the reason they’re called paradox is because they never existed to begin with. They weren’t past or future versions of Pokémon. They’re brand new imaginary that we’re created by something or someone.
@Phyramar
@Phyramar Жыл бұрын
I like how you talked about Dormant Genes. Have you ever watched the Episode Genesis In Star Trek TNG where some mysterious Airborne virus causes the Crew to devolve by activating those dormant genes?
@therealdrogane
@therealdrogane Жыл бұрын
No I have not
@Funky_Item
@Funky_Item Жыл бұрын
i forgot where i heard this but there was a theory that the past paradox pokemon are actually pokemon from the future that have evolved back into a wild state after humans are gone for some reason. and that the future paradox pokemon are actually from the past, maybe weapons made by an ancient super advanced civilization.
@therealdrogane
@therealdrogane Жыл бұрын
It's a plausible idea
@Funky_Item
@Funky_Item Жыл бұрын
cool that it adds some credence to iron bundle's scarlet pokedex entry. if only past paradox pokemon had some entry like that to muddy up the conspiracy more lol
@therealdrogane
@therealdrogane Жыл бұрын
@@Funky_Item Probably keep them as vague as possible forever
@MetalKing1417
@MetalKing1417 Жыл бұрын
To me the biggest Oddity is that all the past paradox pokemon are genderless. Sure you can explain away future ones as being robots/cyborgs, but for the past paradox pokemon aside from Magnaton/sandy shocks, they all have genders and should have had genders in the past. Other similar but less odious oddities include lack of evolution/pre evolution, which is forgivable since they could have gained/lost them and their universally high stats. And yet I find it highly unlikely for these pokemon to be truly "imaginary" if only for the fact that pokemon will likely want to re-release these pokemon for a later game, and them being imaginary, at least in the same sense of Movie 3 (the one with Entei and the unown) would likely interfere with that. As for the origin of paradox pokemon as a whole, My personal idea is thy came from alternate timelines that now can never be due to the meteor that created area zero. IE- Had the meteor that created area zero had never hit, those pokemon both past and future may have come to be, but the meteor rendered those circumstances impossible, but yet that very meteor draws them to this timeline, further creating a paradox. Also minor fact- past paradox pokemon not being in the fossil record can easily be explained away by pointing out that the fossil record is incomplete.
@therealdrogane
@therealdrogane Жыл бұрын
These were all very good points!
@MetalKing1417
@MetalKing1417 Жыл бұрын
@@therealdrogane Thank you. Do you have any notes or criticisms to these points? I would be interested in hearing them.
@therealdrogane
@therealdrogane Жыл бұрын
@@MetalKing1417 Not really. To be honest it had to say anything negative about anyone's theories at this time because there is such vague information surrounding the topic. All we have is speculation at this time.
@WolfDragonTamer
@WolfDragonTamer Жыл бұрын
In regards to Walking Wake, Pokemon lore never confirmed what Pokemon Suicune Entei and Raikou originally were so no real lore break
@therealdrogane
@therealdrogane Жыл бұрын
Fair
@josephsalvucci7316
@josephsalvucci7316 Жыл бұрын
Exactly I’ve been saying this since it was introduced, walking wake is essentially the paradox form of the “unknown pokemon” who died in the tower and was resurrected into Suicune,
@shanedawndusk3290
@shanedawndusk3290 Жыл бұрын
I’m convinced the Pokemon world is just vastly different from the real world. In more than just the obvious ways.
@therealdrogane
@therealdrogane Жыл бұрын
Perhaps yes
@ClefairyFairySnowflake
@ClefairyFairySnowflake Жыл бұрын
I was thinking it would be interesting if there were some alternate universe where paradox pokemon were the norm, and the pokemon we have in our world so to speak would be considered wierd. It makes you wonder how many of those paradox pokemon exist, and to what extent that we don't know of yet? Maybe they come from ultra space or some other wierd dimension or alternate plane of existence? I'd like to see that kind of world and how it would take shape/ affect the environment, etc.
@therealdrogane
@therealdrogane Жыл бұрын
That's an interesting idea
@douglaspope-gz1eq
@douglaspope-gz1eq Жыл бұрын
I really like this concept I would love to see this unfold
@ClefairyFairySnowflake
@ClefairyFairySnowflake Жыл бұрын
@@douglaspope-gz1eq I can just imagine some trainer doing their homework via Iron Hands/ Paradox Hariyama, then them being stuck in an alternate universe being like, "How am I supposed to do my homework now that Hariyama is now a fighting type instead of electric? This pokemon is friggin' useless!" Then he punches a hole in the wall, and Hariyama interprets that as a challenge, thinking, "I think I found my new rival/ friend!" As it's eyes sparkle in the moonlight in excitement and anticipation!
@douglaspope-gz1eq
@douglaspope-gz1eq Жыл бұрын
@@ClefairyFairySnowflake Ha ha that's kinda funny not gonna lie I like you you seem like you would be great to battle against maybe we'll encounter each other in casuals one day
@ClefairyFairySnowflake
@ClefairyFairySnowflake Жыл бұрын
@@douglaspope-gz1eq That would be awesome! Have a great day!
@keithharding346
@keithharding346 Жыл бұрын
seeing that none of the paradpx pokemon can breed or evolve, as many of their counterparts can, perhaps they are all cloned chiemras, and from the same period, kind of like real animals (ligers, zorses etc...) if you look at the pool of types for all paradoxes, with the exception of the legendary ones, a paradox could give their type and some attributes to the forms. most of them cover each other in some way, swapping out a secondary type for another in the pool. A lot of them have elements that could be the typing and characteristics of the less dominant splicing. but maybe not. Like Iron moth's back (it takes a poison type from say amoongus) when the wings close resemeble a sun, but also a pokeball. They all may have more than one element in the centrifuge though. IDK.
@douglaspope-gz1eq
@douglaspope-gz1eq Жыл бұрын
Waking wake is personally for me my favorite paradox pokemon it's protosynthasis combined with hydro stream is so powerful but I have a question should we consider the past paradox pokemon invasive species since they are from our world and not space can we really consider them invasive I personally believe more research is required in order to make a logical decision on what to do about them so I recommend that we gather as much information as possible anyways my apologies for the long comment everyone and as always I hope everyone has a long and happy life and I wish you all prosperity
@therealdrogane
@therealdrogane Жыл бұрын
Invasive species actually do not have to come from space. More so just when something enters somewhere is does not belong and can cause significant changes to that system.
@douglaspope-gz1eq
@douglaspope-gz1eq Жыл бұрын
@@therealdrogane ok yeah that's actually a fair point right there thank you for your insight Drogane I was just curious about that is all because the fossil Pokemon aren't supposed to be native in the pokemon world anymore because they are supposed to be extinct and they aren't considered invasive to my knowledge but this is a very interesting topic thank you for the amazing video my friend BTW just for fun which do you prefer walking wake or iron leaves and as always Drogane I hope you have a long and happy life and I wish your channel prosperity
@therealdrogane
@therealdrogane Жыл бұрын
@@douglaspope-gz1eq Thank you!
@douglaspope-gz1eq
@douglaspope-gz1eq Жыл бұрын
@@therealdrogane your welcome my friend
@Flirtz420
@Flirtz420 Жыл бұрын
@therealdrogane
@therealdrogane Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@tristanmartinez9326
@tristanmartinez9326 Жыл бұрын
Yay
@therealdrogane
@therealdrogane Жыл бұрын
Indeed
@douglaspope-gz1eq
@douglaspope-gz1eq Жыл бұрын
Ha ha I like this guy he has amazing optimism and I love to see that you don't get too many people like this now in days
@thiagoaraujoeng
@thiagoaraujoeng Жыл бұрын
It’s funny because Roaring moon is a past paradox of salamence, but the salamence line is exclusive to Violet
@therealdrogane
@therealdrogane Жыл бұрын
That is a fairly good point to bring up and a valid one at that.
@awkwardsquirtle
@awkwardsquirtle Жыл бұрын
I don't understand why that's an interesting fact? Not that I'm bashing it or anything, I guess I'm missing what it implies.
@therealdrogane
@therealdrogane Жыл бұрын
@@awkwardsquirtle He was stating that because Salamence is exclusive to Pokemon Violet and it's Paradox Form can only be found in Scarlet, it's a strange connection.
@awkwardsquirtle
@awkwardsquirtle Жыл бұрын
@@therealdrogane Same with Misdreavus and Flutter Mane
@therealdrogane
@therealdrogane Жыл бұрын
@@awkwardsquirtle Yes
@LordOberic1
@LordOberic1 Жыл бұрын
Mega evolutions were just Paradox pokemon in beta testing. Bring back megas as paradox mons and nobody would be upset in the least.
@therealdrogane
@therealdrogane Жыл бұрын
Probably not going to happen
@tylunsherod
@tylunsherod Жыл бұрын
You're taking the timeline as a linear line and not taking into account the word paradox. A paradox is something that should not exist, a contradiction. A temporal paradox or time paradox is a contradiction based on time/time travel and can result from such events. My thoughts are that the paradox pokemon are the result of the creation of a time paradox made by the researchers going into the past and tampering with the pokemon or introducing something to them that completely changes their evolution line.
@therealdrogane
@therealdrogane Жыл бұрын
Not a bad idea considering the context of the game. However, one could argue the paradox is they simply being pulled into area zero itself.
@awkwardsquirtle
@awkwardsquirtle Жыл бұрын
Time Travel within itself is a paradox. I think people are putting too much importance to the definition of the word rather than taking it at face value.
@MrLurch133
@MrLurch133 Жыл бұрын
Only struggle I have with area zero is Did the crystal pokemon shield the center? Referring to old pokemon surviving in only that area. Impact and shield ?
@MrLurch133
@MrLurch133 Жыл бұрын
Also was impact weakend by cave system under it
@therealdrogane
@therealdrogane Жыл бұрын
Unclear
@thegr8n4te38
@thegr8n4te38 Жыл бұрын
Good theory but I personally think they are going the imagination route. If this theory is true then fossil pokemon and hisuian forms are also “paradox pokemon
@therealdrogane
@therealdrogane Жыл бұрын
The Paradox comes from the concept of them being pulled from time into modern time. They are essentially just Prehistoric pokemon.
@thegr8n4te38
@thegr8n4te38 Жыл бұрын
@@therealdrogane wont we technically be doing that when we transfer the hisuian mons to the games? The game usually says “traveled through space and time” for transferred pokemon
@therealdrogane
@therealdrogane Жыл бұрын
@@thegr8n4te38 Pretty much yeah.
@mrsuperheatran2794
@mrsuperheatran2794 Жыл бұрын
@@therealdrogane It can't be that simple, right? If they were simply prehistoric Pokemon, they'd be simply called that: prehistoric Pokemon. There's no paradox involved when pulling something from the past like you would from the future. There HAS to be a reason why the existence of these Pokemon are well... paradoxical.
@sergioin3D
@sergioin3D Жыл бұрын
Okay
@skistorm739
@skistorm739 Жыл бұрын
And alive fossil pokemon used show their true typing, but it's surprising that the t-rex true form it's is fossil form
@therealdrogane
@therealdrogane Жыл бұрын
Is it really though?
@skistorm739
@skistorm739 Жыл бұрын
@@therealdrogane?? What do you mean
@therealdrogane
@therealdrogane Жыл бұрын
@@skistorm739 Imagine Tyrantrum adapted over time as well.
@douglaspope-gz1eq
@douglaspope-gz1eq Жыл бұрын
Fossil pokemon are just weird in their biology in my opinion
@Fireash007
@Fireash007 10 ай бұрын
Now do future paradox video plz
@therealdrogane
@therealdrogane 10 ай бұрын
Pretty I did in that very same playlist
@someonerandom8511
@someonerandom8511 Жыл бұрын
I like your theory, but I cannot agree with you. The fact that there are no fossil pokemon in Area Zero feels very deliberate to me, and while maybe it was just there because what would their counterparts in violet be, it's still a detail I cannot easily overlook. You also mention that each paradox pokemon can have a line drawn between them and our modern-day pokemon, but that's the problem for me. The past paradox pokemon are based on dinosaurs, which lived anywhere from 65 million years ago to 230 million years ago. I cannot believe for a moment that in at minimum 65 million years there are similar differences as yanmega and yanma. And that's considering that dragonflies are some of the least changed species over the years. Although it is technically possible, I do not think it is likely that Donphan, Jigglypuff, Magneton, and Misdrevious all barely changed over 65 million years. Amoongus being a mushroom, Volcarona being a moth, and Salamence being an apex predator make them more believable, but still doubtful. And speaking of Amoongus: mushrooms and dinosaurs are about as separate as two species can be, so how can Brute Bonnet exist. And while Foongus's pokedex entry says that the creator of the modern Pokeball may have based the design on Foongus, it is simply absurd to believe that such a pattern could've been on their heads and hands for millions of years despite serving no purpose. As a bonus detail, every past paradox Pokemon has eyeshadow, and either has a mohawk or some other kind of punk-like hair. To believe that these are things that naturally appeared on every ancient Pokemon the time machine grabbed, and not on a single species that it didn't is statistically unlikely. Another thing you mention is how Tropius is a dinosaur-like Pokemon, but Pokemon has always made a distinction between Pokemon based on ancient animals and Pokemon that are ancient, and the only distinction the past paradox Pokemon has is an NPC saying how the time machine works. The fossil Pokemon are clearly based on specific ancient creatures and have barely any connection to modern-day pokemon aside from generally evolving towards the modern day (see Archeop's ultra moon dex entry). Also it may just be me, but your explanations for Walking Wake resembling Suicune and Roaring Moon resembling Mega Salamence feels like grasping at straws.
@therealdrogane
@therealdrogane Жыл бұрын
I respect your opinion
@someonerandom8511
@someonerandom8511 Жыл бұрын
@@therealdrogane alright. And even if we disagree, I find the whole conversation to be very interesting. It's the most invested in pokemon lore I've ever been
@therealdrogane
@therealdrogane Жыл бұрын
@@someonerandom8511 It is one of the best for sure. Next to Unova and Alola
@matthewkontor7345
@matthewkontor7345 Жыл бұрын
ok my question is if it took these pokemon 1000s of years to get into the modern one we have now.. and pokemon being a game about evolution etc.. why can we see pokemon evolve in front of us but this happened over 1000s of years?
@therealdrogane
@therealdrogane Жыл бұрын
The series established evolution instant change but also the concept of evolution over time. It'a specified that instant evolution has to do with its bond with its trainer.
@matthewkontor7345
@matthewkontor7345 Жыл бұрын
@@therealdrogane really? interesting stuff !!
@skistorm739
@skistorm739 Жыл бұрын
And poke-rus able to change state mutated able change moves maybe terapagos experiment with energy by unlock like only 💧 types and locking the rest into able to change typing?
@therealdrogane
@therealdrogane Жыл бұрын
There is no pokerus in Paldea
@skistorm739
@skistorm739 Жыл бұрын
@Drogane I know but you said mutated into terapagos instead of deoxy, last video and time loop on
@douglaspope-gz1eq
@douglaspope-gz1eq Жыл бұрын
To be honest while there is no poke-rus the ability to lock other pokemon around it into using a specific type would be broken and probably instantly banned
@therealdrogane
@therealdrogane Жыл бұрын
@@skistorm739 Yeah that's possible
@skistorm739
@skistorm739 Жыл бұрын
@Drogane is it possible that pokemon mess the ultimate weapon blast radius and survive? Would they mutate? Maybe roaring moon?
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