I am bewildered about Ingres paper Why would a grid texture be desirable for nature ?

Jason, once I accidentally clicked on the thumbs down on a video because I thought you could see the profile of the jerk who would think it was bad. I didn't realize by doing that I was actually adding to the thumbs down count!

Probably employees of the paper you don't prefer lol

People are just plain jealous or just incapable of appreciating talent n efforts. But hats off to u :) you n Lisa r my top favourites 😍 thank u so much for all the efforts

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+TJ Duprey ...good one..lol

Is it archival then? Acid free?

I was taught to prepare board for oils with powdered chalk in gesso - would that not work for pastels too?

Wow, that sounds amazing. I can't wait to try that too. 😊

Just try mi teinte touch paper…if you want deep colours,and want layering!!! Pastel mat is terrible paper

Watch Colin Bradley's tutorials, he's a master of using pastel pencils on ingres paper

yep :o)

ha you mean Jason lol

Sorry!!! I mean Jason!!!

Thank you Jason

for the pan pastels, the way I would use them would be for a tonal underdrawing (so for standard wildlife look for dark browns / grays etc) and also for soft backgrounds so I would be thinking mostly, yellows, greens and blues :) remember they can be used alongside other pastels too :)

Hi Yes any of the sanded papers out there will work.uart etc 😉👍

Apparently there is no Pastelmat in A4 on the market, anything larger doesn't fit in my scanner, and anything smaller is really small like postcard sized 　 Think I'll get the smaller size just for trying it out otherwise just keep using fixative, like I said it works fine for adding more layers, you just have to wait a minute to let it dry, but that's nothing compared to painting in acrylics and even less than nothing compared to painting in oil paints where you have to wait a week or so for a layer to dry

Try the Pastelmat sample pack. It is about A4 size. At least mine was.

Nothing against Colin but you need to check out Cuong Nguyen. His portraits seem to emit their own light they are so vibrant. The Ingress paper has that annoying waffle texture and it shows in Colin's work. Personally I find that it detracts from the realism and makes it appear sketchy. Choose any pencils you want - it's the paper that makes all the difference.

you can erase - but its better not to :o)

not tried yet - but I just contacted Uart to see if they will send me some to test for you guys - I heard 600 is close to pastelmat

Jason Morgan - Wildlife Art Great! I look forward to hearing what you think. From the small samples I got (not uart) I have used the 300 grit to play. I still have 400 & 600 to try. I've been happy with the 300, so I am sure the others will be great too. I didn't make a video for this though because my channel is realism in Pyrography, though I will be using pastels with my media. I hope they get back to you! 😃

PS. I know you know this, Jason. I added the comment for anybody watching who might worry about not being able to do it on Pastelmat..

I have it tested on my channel - the TOUCH type - Canson do many types, so make sure you have the right one ;)

Jason Morgan - Wildlife Art it was Touch as that's what most people recommended from Canson, but still.......not liking it so far.

I have only tried the Canson Mi Tientes paper and have had a hard time as well. I loved this video! It makes me want to buy some pastelmat asap! It looks so much nicer. I struggle with adding too many layers because it just won't take anymore after a few layers. The dark pastel rubs off on the pencil like in this video and then if I move the pencil from dark to light I end up with darks I didn't want on my lights because it stuck to the pencil. Thank you for this video!

Megg S. I have the same problem with canson Mi-Teints , I really struggled with it on a raven painting . I could get no layers or the lights over the darks . I used some workable fixativ then I was able to get more layers ,but the fixativ at self made everything darker no win situation :(

It is due to style. Pastelmat is great for realism and detail. It holds sharpness and many layers. Ingres papers are just a completely different finished look. It gives off a romantic, soft feel. Think of Rembrandt’s Ballerinas. You just need to know going in that you will not be using them the same way. Similar to Mi Tientes papers. Mi Tientes shines when using slightly harder pastels and just completely failed on you when using the softer brands. Different professional papers generally need different ways of application and different subjects (or at least different expectations of the finished product of said subject). Ingress papers are usually promoted by their ability to portray the powdery-ness of soft pastels along with the muting of colors. I saw a person angry that their Sennelier sanded paper failed when they used an alcohol wash and their anger was because, by their logic, all sanded surfaces should automatically carry the expectation that they can handle wet washes. It really showcased that the artist’s lack of knowledge of how an art supply can be used does not put fault on the product, rather on the artist for putting their expectations onto a product that never claimed to be used a certain way.

@mypandapaints5854 @mypandapaints5854 Great point. I tried watercolour on Stonehenge 100% cotton paper and was disappointed because it pilled and disintegrated after wetting it and over-brushing or erasing my pencil lines. However, the paper didn't warp as other paper did.

HI yes - didn't like it at all - I have a review of it and other papers on my KZfaq channel here - kzfaq.info

I'm sorry but you can't even compare the two. Colin's work is very nice but it's not even close to Jason's. Jason's work is photo realistic and Colin's looks like a pastel drawing.

perhaps because he sells it on his website ;) I should imagine he used Ingress MANY years ago and is now set in his ways and draws light to dark like coloured pencils. I prefer to draw dark to light which completely makes more sense. I am waiting for UArt to send me some paper to test for you guys .

Ive been watching Colin, and he seems to produce nice peieces of art so for my first go at pastel I bought ingres, but I am struggling. I dont know wether that me, or the paper. lol But I feel like Ive used far too much pastel to get coverage and its not happening, and even after pushing it in the paper it comes off easy?

Ingres is inferior in every way in my opinion. When I use pastels I want to be able to overlay them for many layers and also do light over dark and dark over light. I dont see the point of using a paper that dictates how I can use the pastels.

Jason will lose Colin Bradley plus he's a Welshman, always a bonus ;)

You've seemed to have made a couple of digs at Colin over the course of your videos and comments. Just not cool...your styles are different. Your opinion and experience is yours and another person's experience and opinion is theirs, no need to be snide.