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Pastor Seymour Helligar Joins Jesse! (Ep. 293)
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Күн бұрынOn this week's episode of TheFallenState TV, host Jesse Lee Peterson is joined by Pastor Seymour Helligar-He the head pastor of Grace Community Church of Long Beach. Pastor Seymour joins Jesse to discuss Christianity, his role as a husband, the "Trinity", black anger, forgiveness, and much more! Tune in on Friday at 12 Noon Pacific Time / 3:00 PM Eastern Time to catch our premiere!
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00:00 Start
00:25 Guest Intro
01:20 Welcome to The Fallen State!
01:38 Pastor Seymour Helligar
02:00 Did God call you to be a pastor?
02:55 If God called you then why go to school?
03:48 Pastor Seymour wanted to learn the different ancient languages
04:04 Let no man teach you
04:54 Would you let your wife preach?
05:35 Why have so many preachers caved to their wives?
06:33 Is preacher school just a money-making scheme?
08:05 Would Pastor Seymour ever want an affirmative action doctor?
08:41 Does your wife obey you?
09:48 How do you deal with the hell in your wife?
11:20 Do you ever argue with the devil in her?
11:32 Do you believe human beings are in a fallen state?
12:46 What’s important to you?
13:18 How can you have both anger and love?
16:28 “This body is still subject to death”
17:25 Satan possesses the imagination
18:45 When you hate it you get deeper into it
19:10 Discernment defined by JLP
19:54 Are all thoughts from the imagination a lie?
22:40 Do you create your own thoughts?
24:27 Why would you create bad thoughts?
25:37 The adversary made a home in your mind
27:16 Why did God say “of ourselves we can know nothing and do nothing”?
28:20 Is your heart still wicked?
29:24 “We’re simultaneously saints and sinners”
30:00 Where is the Kingdom of Heaven?
31:33 Jesus said the Kingdom of Heaven is within
33:15 The Kingdom is spiritual not physical
34:54 It is written upon our hearts
36:34 Is the Bible the word of God or the word from God?
37:00 The Bible has been rewritten over and over
38:45 God is continuously writing His word in our heart - Pastor Seymour
40:00 Do you believe Jesus when he said it was done?
42:08 Is Jesus the Son or the Father?
43:45 Where in the Bible can you find the Trinitarian View?
46:53 Did Jesus say my Father and I are One?
47:58 Why do people say Jesus is the Father even though he never did?
49:27 When Christ was on the cross who was he talking to?
51:15 Is it possible that the intellect has deceived you?
51:52 Why do people hate the Jews?
52:40 Is abortion worse than slavery?
53:06 THE HOT SEAT
57:10 How to find Pastor Seymour’s work
58:04 Credits
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@bibby42 Жыл бұрын
This was such a fantastic episode with a great conversation! Love it!
@kennethjohnson5179 Жыл бұрын
Great interview. Pastor Seymour is sharp,
@santasstang8798 Жыл бұрын
🤒like look lol L
@fentynolfloyd5558 Жыл бұрын
True dat bibby. Holla at u soon boi
@davidware4096 Жыл бұрын
Folks look at the words of baptism. In the name of God the father God the son God the Holy Spirit. Or just say in the name of Jesus Christ Which would refer to one God And Jesus in the flesh is God and Man at the same time That's what makes him the Christ the anointed one Because of the spirit of the father in him. So Jesus has all names and all titles of Jehovah God-given onto him. That's what makes him the name above all names.
@GCapitalOfficial Жыл бұрын
what a healthy and respectful man.
@mraemartinez Жыл бұрын
The guest was the real deal. He stayed patient thru all the pushback. No sign of EGO. So impressed!
@ryankmyles3922 Жыл бұрын
He has a great leader in John McArthur
@prettyclassyladyOG Жыл бұрын
What does that mesn
@titioyenusi5668 Жыл бұрын
Agreeing….. the Pastor is a real deal!
@mdrupprecht Жыл бұрын
This is who seymour is week in and week out as he teaches and shepherds at Grace Community Church of Long Beach
@tzee7945 Жыл бұрын
He's on point a real example of what the body should look like
@Mrs.CGraves Жыл бұрын
“By the Grace of God I’m not where I want to be, and by the Grace of God I’m not where I once was” Love that.
@oocollins Жыл бұрын
Well said ... God never sees man as a victim just a project under construction...
@orangeandslinky Жыл бұрын
By the GRACE of God, you can be saved and have eternal life if you call upon His name to be saved. It's a gift offered to you. I hope God gives you the faith to believe it. If you say no to this free gift, where do you want to be?
@A-non-theist Жыл бұрын
What is considered the grace of god?
@A-non-theist Жыл бұрын
@@oocollins How do you know what your mythical god can see and can't see? Is he not all knowing? Also a mythical god that killed innocent babies and children also unborn babies by drowning them because he was not pleased with some of the others?
@johnallen7259 10 ай бұрын
Trinity seminary school messed him up
@thekaimurai4146 Жыл бұрын
21:10 Finally someone who pays attention to context and the entire passage instead of picking and choosing whichever verse sounds good; Pastor Helligar gets it.
@SingleMaltBuckeye Жыл бұрын
I like him too
@orangeandslinky Жыл бұрын
Yes, finally you can clearly see Jesse hates the bible and God's word. Jesse teaches Transcendental Hindu Meditation. Pastor Helligar not only knew the scriptures but knew them in context. If Jesse would have ask Helligar to meditate on his forehead and become as a Hindu Yogi, he would not have done it. Jesse says ALL, ALL thoughts are from the devil. Jesus didn't say ALL thoughts are from the devil, but let's say for Jesse's sake they are. As soon as Jesse says anything, Jesse has to use thoughts. So every time Jesse thinks to even speak, he would be using thoughts that ALL come from the devil.
@tlumaczy1507 Жыл бұрын
@@orangeandslinky Harsh words but it is hard not to agree. All who love Word od God shoild be filled with Him reachly. The one who knows Jesus by Spirit will also recognize bro and sis by spirit. I do not agree only if it cimes about bible schools. But this is secondary matter. Not issue with Spirit or faith. Blessings from me!
@orangeandslinky Жыл бұрын
@@tlumaczy1507 I was born into a spiritualist family. I did Yoga long before it was an American fad in the 60's. Jesse holds a bible and says he is a pastor. When I studied the silent prayer with Jesse I knew it was Hindu TM. When this very well read pastor answered Jesse's questions from the bible IN CONTEXT, Jesse's jokes would not work. When Jesse says he's black and slow, It just means he wants a direct answer. This Pastor could give it to him fast and with patience and love. Jesse's Hinduism and denial of Jesus Christ could not stand.
@orangeandslinky Жыл бұрын
@@jessesteward6841 No Jesse brought that up to the Pastor. The book contains the words of the Father. The book is not the Father. Unbelievers and Christian haters very often bring that up. This Pastor was not even in a debate stance at all and blew that old trick right out of the water. You will never understand this as an unsaved person. If God saves you, you will totally get it.
@alexpold1813 Жыл бұрын
Solid pastor. Good doctrine, well spoken, humble and likeable. Great interview chemistry too, awesome.
@Amandaolin1 Жыл бұрын
I love this pastor. What a great conversation
@at_once Жыл бұрын
This Pastor has my respect. He is guided by the Spirit.
@stephaniehoward-easton9672 Жыл бұрын
This is a man walking with Christ Jesus! Patient, kind, non aggressive, not agitated, speaking in the word, led by the Spirit of Christ Jesus!
@AvaRose00 Жыл бұрын
This guy is sharp! I would love to go to his church. I’ve listened to a lot of people, preachers, on Jesse’s show and this guy knows the word of God. Very impressed…
@kierenwuest8457 Жыл бұрын
At the end he says that the interview gave him something to think about. True humility right there, when Jesse could learn a lot more from him.
@phylliswatson9760 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, we need to know the word of God for ourself as in the last days men are latching on to untruthful doctrines. Jesse is one of those who teach false doctrines. He is clearly saying things that is not coming from the bible. Revelation 22 v19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy,God shall take away his part out of the book of life and out of the holy city and from the things that are written in this book.
@dannytran1587 Жыл бұрын
Facts. It just sucks that the average religion is extremely confusing, even to it’s own followers.
@AvaRose00 Жыл бұрын
Yes! I love Jesse but he gets caught up in “the mother/father” idea too much… very good interview.
@Tynomac Жыл бұрын
@00 Ava Barker 2025 maybe that's because it is so important. Does Jesse strike you as one who doesn't know what he is doing?
@blackpound2297 Жыл бұрын
@@Tynomac he does. Been learning some new revelations about Jesse also
@mskennedykennedy4221 Жыл бұрын
Wow this pastor is very impressive no doubt he is truly the real deal. Godly character excellent bible knowledge and very heart felt. You can see clearly that he has a heart for God and people. If only we had more pastors like this in the world would not be in the condition that it is in now. He has my respect. The hand of God is on this man.
@AvaRose00 Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@edwardb5227 Жыл бұрын
Nope, he believes it's 3 gods in one... there is only 1 God, and there are no three distinctive personalities in God
@AvaRose00 Жыл бұрын
@@edwardb5227 the father, the son and the Holy Ghost
@jazzbrowne Жыл бұрын
This was an excellent interview. This Pastor is truly worthy of being followed.
@tlumaczy1507 Жыл бұрын
Never follow man. Healyhy trachinh- yes! But never man.
@pdwheaty11 Жыл бұрын
The blind will follow the blind.
@Cryptokinglos Жыл бұрын
We can be taught by who God sends to preach but follow Christ alone no man
@tlumaczy1507 Жыл бұрын
Broyher Seymour has proper Spirit. Fruit of his mouth is glorifying Jesus. Not sa called " truth" that another one is teaching. John 16:14: "He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall show it to you."
@colejackz Жыл бұрын
Lol follow no man.
@jason.bressner7466 Жыл бұрын
Great guest, honest about his growth, great guy wish him a great spiritual Future! 1111
@danielgordinho1982 Жыл бұрын
Great guest! Thanks for stopping by Seymour! Keep up the great work Jesse! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@MikebrownHGM Жыл бұрын
Awesome Pastor Seymour !
@emoran5875 Жыл бұрын
This was one of the best interviews I’ve ever seen!
@CoolPapaJMagik Жыл бұрын
Every episode of the Fallen State is good! My favorite interview show by a long shot
@jasonleveck8546 Жыл бұрын
@@CoolPapaJMagik It's definitely good. You gotta check out "Fearless" with Jason Whitlock and his regular crew/guests. That's a truly necessary show that goes after the hard, but needed dialogues.
@dannytran1587 Жыл бұрын
@@CoolPapaJMagik Sameeee
@TheRichardsonReport Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this one. I like it when Jesse debates biblical philosophy with other pastors. Truly interesting conversations. Bravo!!!
@noloking Жыл бұрын
Captivating to see two men with such strong conviction
@royfredericks2231 Жыл бұрын
Best interview I've seen so far. Love the responses.👍👍👍
@dannytran1587 Жыл бұрын
Although Jesse had to repeat questions multiple times because a straightforward answer wasn’t enough. I don’t know if that means anything but just an observwtion
@hairboy75 Жыл бұрын
Pastor Seymour Helligar is one of the best guests ever on this show.
@homemademusic7 Жыл бұрын
This episode turned out to be a seminary class for Jesse, 😂 even though Jesse seems to frown upon seminary training. God bless this pastor. I’ll be watching his sermons if they’re online.
@tlumaczy1507 Жыл бұрын
Yeah! The only question is if Jesse is open to learn?
@BonganiNobuhleMotha 3 ай бұрын
@@tlumaczy1507 No he is not. he thinks he knows it all and he doesnt.
@sheliauzoma2268 Жыл бұрын
I loved this! Your guest was amazin! Very patient- and knowledgeable in scripture.❤️
@juliangodsend9418 Жыл бұрын
THIS PASTOR IS REMARKABLE,GLORY TO GOD
@markr.7620 Жыл бұрын
Jesse ask very challenging questions like squeezing lemon for lemonade and i believe that Ptr.Seymour is a learned and authentic Pastor. More power to you both and God bless!!!
@jeremygoldsmith4767 Жыл бұрын
Excellent interview with a pastor prepared to speak honestly.
@thelmaparker1396 Жыл бұрын
Amazin Interview, Pastor Seymour is a great pastor and worth following indeed.
@willl6666 Жыл бұрын
No words can explain God
@genx8367 Жыл бұрын
This guy is Amazin, take notes Jesse!
@iancraigbintliff9738 Жыл бұрын
Great show!!!!! Guest killed it.
@CoolPapaJMagik Жыл бұрын
Another brilliant episode, Jesse. I like the guest and enjoyed this very much
@tonton1945. Жыл бұрын
Very good! I really like this preacher! Wonderful conversation.
@JoeMamaNotYoMama Жыл бұрын
I'm telling you, if you keep watching The Fallen State..It just gets better and better and better... it's truly amazin Pretty sure that's a JLP quote. Great episode!!
@niqwynn7391 Жыл бұрын
He was wholesome. God bless this guest 🙏🏿
@williamstdog9 Жыл бұрын
I love this guest so much!!! ♥️👌💪✊
@saosalomao5 Жыл бұрын
Very nice! Jesse is sharp and Seymor very calm and intelligent.
@marjoriekhumalo6443 Жыл бұрын
This is so refreshing to listen to.I thank God for pastors like him.
@heatherzloty7143 Жыл бұрын
This man seems legit! Praise God
@shanealan7093 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this interview. Seymour is such an intelligent and interesting man.
@trevorlanier8852 Жыл бұрын
I THINK THIS GUY IS MY NEW FAVORITE INTERVIEW. YOU CAN TELL THE HOLLY SPIRIT IS ALL OVER HIM
@ryanmobolo6264 Жыл бұрын
He is definite more than a guy. From what I gather; he is an honest gentleman striving to please God without trying to deceive or manipulate others. On another note; In my humble opinion, I truly believe there are some honest, dedicated, prepared and qualified affirmative actions doctors in the medical field that will meet or surpass some doctors that were not a part of the affirmative actions programs.
@dannytran1587 Жыл бұрын
@@ryanmobolo6264 Some, but probability wise it’s not that great
@adriennecottrell387 Жыл бұрын
This was a nice episode with a black pastor. He was cool I respected his views, no arguments, no fights nice
@dannytran1587 3 ай бұрын
I’ve watched this so many times still watching again. Amazing
@josephmotha5349 Жыл бұрын
When a Man of God who understands scripture comes to the show. Jesse once indicated that he does not read his bible, he speaks his mind and this pastor speaks the word of God. This Pastor is AMAZING
@farsights7989 Жыл бұрын
🙌
@helenaliyah Жыл бұрын
What a great guest ❤❤❤
@charleneadderely2332 Жыл бұрын
GREAT THIS PASTER IS VERY SMART HE DON'T GET ANGER , he has the spirit of truth in him
@IamN... Жыл бұрын
The battle is real, and Satan will lose. Peace, Blessings, Love, Strength, Patience.
@gwynkoo8890 Жыл бұрын
This was AMAZIN!
@ryanlipple6854 Жыл бұрын
This outstanding black man is a man of God! God bless and keep him.
@RayRayHam Жыл бұрын
One of the best interviews on the entire internet ❤
@Mrs.CGraves Жыл бұрын
It’s so good to hear a Biblical Pastor. They are far and few at this point. We don’t have to understand biblical commands but if we believe, we must OBEY. Women today are out of pocket and need serious correction
@kylenewman6498 Жыл бұрын
All women?
@sourhayes1 Жыл бұрын
@@kylenewman6498yes all women
@kylenewman6498 Жыл бұрын
@sourhayes1 and how are you supposed yo follow biblical commands without understanding them? Sounds like you are set up to fail
@sourhayes1 Жыл бұрын
@@kylenewman6498 It is written in ur heart The word of God will reveal itself to you no need to intellectually try and understand it thats what satan wants you to do
@Mrs.CGraves Жыл бұрын
@@kylenewman6498 you study and learn to the best of your ability. But if you believe, you then learn all you can. The Bible is sufficient. When I first read the Bible some books and chapters had a original impression and impact, whereas after the 5th reading may have a different impression. As we mature the Word of Jesus reveals more. In Faith we obey. It’s not belief that Jesus is our Savior it’s understanding that Jesus is LORD over our lives. We obey our Lord even if we don’t like, or agree, or understand the command. This sayeth the Lord. We obey.
@danielciorrocco5351 Жыл бұрын
This was a good one. Loved it. Awesome guest.
@kristin0943 Жыл бұрын
I love this Pastor! ❤
@johnjackson4100 Жыл бұрын
Jesse makes it a point to show people to get to know yourself. The Bible can show all of what you could learn intellectually but none if it matters if it hasn’t happened to you personally
@farsights7989 Жыл бұрын
One point I would make is that the Bible wants us to know God, as in Isaiah 6.
@johnjackson4100 Жыл бұрын
@@farsights7989 Once you get to know yourself you will realize you don’t know God even after gaining intellectual knowledge. People who don’t know themselves can’t distinguish themselves from their Egos. When you know yourself you speak from your soul not your intellect. It’s like reading a book about swimming, you will convince yourself you know how to swim even if you never experienced it in real life
@thebluetiger26 Жыл бұрын
The word of God and the kingdom of heaven is in your heart
@farsights7989 Жыл бұрын
@@thebluetiger26 You are partially right. The kingdom of God is in your heart in the sense that God rules over you. The Kingdom of God is also a place. Jesus said that he was going to a "place" when he talked to people. So the Kingdom of God is "in your heart" and an actual place.
@1tmagda Жыл бұрын
What a class act is Pastor Seymour... Great line 14:50 "there's a difference between reigning sin and remaining sin" Romans 7:7:14
@Vivi145 Жыл бұрын
All I could say is “WOW”. The Pastor brilliantly knows the Bible .
@chloeew4627 Жыл бұрын
Excellent,calm interview.😊
@vuyelwabontsi816 Жыл бұрын
This guest is patient 👏👏👏👏👏👏
@jeffreyfreeman4843 Жыл бұрын
That was great, classic Fallen State. 👏
@wolfboy868 Ай бұрын
Wow, love this guy. Great example of a good person.
@tonyh4513 Жыл бұрын
Love how this pastor handled everything. Very intellectual as well. Looking for his channel as I type.
@hittingthewall1452 Жыл бұрын
This blessed me.
@berniemac4422 Жыл бұрын
This Pastor is on the ball , and he is correct
@claudiaabraham7446 Жыл бұрын
Jesse is a Clown!!! He only wants to TRY to prove people wrong. He doesn't know enough....doesn't understand scripture and leading people astray!!!
@titioyenusi5668 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@chromosome9783 Жыл бұрын
UMMAZEN episode 👏 very revealing question 🥸 Wish you well JLP and team And to the Courageous guest 💐
@justinsmudde2554 Жыл бұрын
For a pastor this guy is solid as a rock!
@autologikvip9017 Жыл бұрын
Aren't pastors supposed to be ....??? What kind of comment is that
@heatherzloty7143 Жыл бұрын
Oh the beauty of reformed Baptist theology!👍👍👍
@anthonys239 Жыл бұрын
Loved the convo. Thanks for this one!!🤠
@firststopselfstorage363 5 ай бұрын
This pastor is right on. How great it is to see and hear someone that is following Jesus.
@heatherzloty7143 Жыл бұрын
1 John 1:10 “ if we say that we have not sin we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us”
@gregoryderosa8045 Жыл бұрын
Talking in PAST TENSE, once you sin your a Sinner, but not talking about PRESENT TENSE 😬
@PhilChoArt Жыл бұрын
Wow this guy is on point. Great guest!!
@TrueLight1611 2 ай бұрын
Very doctrinally sound Pastor.
@danielpeterson2702 Жыл бұрын
Great guest.
@godschild9738 Жыл бұрын
I respect this pastor
@Bayouboy25 Жыл бұрын
Wow great guest, very Biblical
@elijohnson8323 5 ай бұрын
This guy is the real deal. Maybe one of the most knowledgeable ministers I have ever listened to.
@wangodangoful Жыл бұрын
Much respect for this pastor. God is glorified by his his humble yet irudite responses.
@sirhcredneb1422 Жыл бұрын
Good interview. Very challenging questions
@christinesmith1558 Жыл бұрын
An amazing interview!!
@almackie6104 Жыл бұрын
I think this is the best pastor i have seen yet on this show.
@emersintruzone Жыл бұрын
Jesse really needs to be awarded the best dance teacher, cause when he ask questions he gets people dancing around it 😂😂😂
@chipsandsalsaboss Ай бұрын
this is such an importNT SHOW. amazin
@chino7472 Жыл бұрын
This interview was the best I’ve heard!
@Pingaheimer 6 ай бұрын
This dude is great. He has a great disposition and has a lot to teach.
@MisterWop Жыл бұрын
Respect for this pastor. I would not be able to do what he just did 😅
@furyofbongos Жыл бұрын
Wow, the most comprehensive chapter breakdown ever! JLP has some very good people working with him.
@noampinsky11 Жыл бұрын
Another episode. That's amazing! Will watch tonight.
@thenativist6330 Жыл бұрын
Hey bud. Did you watch it?
@noampinsky11 Жыл бұрын
@@thenativist6330 yep another Bible thumper
@WillStephen1977 Жыл бұрын
I love this
@CoolPapaJMagik Жыл бұрын
Then why don’t you marry it? What da!?
@monstermind4286 Жыл бұрын
Great Pastor
@olushayotriumph Жыл бұрын
Soo Edifying!
@Lee-uw6wb Жыл бұрын
The Kingdom of Heaven and God is within us. In our hearts 💕
@samkelogqeba1816 Жыл бұрын
Great interview. JLP is the best
@tlumaczy1507 Жыл бұрын
I do agree with many things with pastor Seymour. He has good insight from the Lord.
@heatherzloty7143 Жыл бұрын
This conversation truly revealed how twisted Jesses doctrine is on many important points!!!
@mamuklutze6474 Жыл бұрын
THank you!!! What IS Jesse's doctrine??
@mrswhetstone7490 Жыл бұрын
@@mamuklutze6474 it's "foolishness"
@danielwarthen2768 Жыл бұрын
This man Helligar is the real deal!!!!!
@darkchild52001 8 ай бұрын
This was WORTH watching!! Jesse, I must say, you met your match with THIS guest! He actually reads the bible😊 We have to "STUDY to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 2 Timothy 2:15
@cedricpeterson5481 3 ай бұрын
Jesse doesn't study scripture.
@darkchild52001 3 ай бұрын
I agree!
@sgb.3999 Жыл бұрын
Grace Community Church spearheaded by Senior Pastor John MacArthur produce a bold, transparent, quality pastors. Thank you JLP for inviting Pastor Seymour Helligar.
@mosesprops5754 Жыл бұрын
This an amazing interview a man like this should get more than just and hour because both people was right and it does justice for the pastor not to look crazy a very great interview tops anyone I seen need more like this all ways learning and this opened my eyes once more.
@karanapier9175 Жыл бұрын
I really liked the guest.
@A-Dub68 Жыл бұрын
We are responsible for our own thoughts! Although we are influenced by the temptation of the enemy, we are given a way out by the Holy Spirit in every instance of temptation! Do not give in to the term "the devil made me do it"
@youtoldharpotobeatme5023 Жыл бұрын
We do not create thoughts. So how can we be responsible for them? Now, if you believe what they tell you to do.....that's another story
@KeyVyers Жыл бұрын
“Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for so I am.” John 13:13
@anaphylastiks Жыл бұрын
Jesus was born through the woman and he had no sin.
@jasonleveck8546 Жыл бұрын
It was by the spirit he was conceived, though. There was no intercourse of flesh.
@kimora7964 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonleveck8546 well done...psalms 83;18
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